Phuket: le St Tropez de Thaïlande
by Trotteuse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Concernant la taille de l'île c'est curieux les sites en français parle en moyenne de 60 KM X 25 KM et ceux en anglais de 48 KM X 21 KM, tous marseillais les reporters français ?
Oui mais les anglais avec leur mesure à la noix ils s'emmêlent les pinceaux 😉
Longueur . 48, 7 km et largeur . 21, 3 km...mais certainement à vol d'oiseau !
Mais Sunpax doit avoir raison à vol d'oiseau ça doit être ça, mais bon par la route il est sur que c'est plus long quand tu penses que de l'aéroport jusqu'à Patong il y a 35 Km et de Patong jusque dans le sud de l'île combien ? 😉 et de l'aéroport jusque le pont de Sarrazin combien ?😉
Oui mais les anglais avec leur mesure à la noix ils s'emmêlent les pinceaux 😉
Longueur . 48, 7 km et largeur . 21, 3 km...mais certainement à vol d'oiseau !
Mais Sunpax doit avoir raison à vol d'oiseau ça doit être ça, mais bon par la route il est sur que c'est plus long quand tu penses que de l'aéroport jusqu'à Patong il y a 35 Km et de Patong jusque dans le sud de l'île combien ? 😉 et de l'aéroport jusque le pont de Sarrazin combien ?😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
bonjour,
on assiste quand même de la part des autorités de l'administration du tourisme en Thaïlanade à une inflation dans les titres .. j'ai bien vu Ko Samui classée au premier rang des "Top world destination" et Bangkok "First Asia City" - faut arrêter de délirer.
St Tropez, c'est people et Jet set depuis des décennies, on dira ce qu'on voudra mais je ne vois pas de comparaison possible avec Phuket.
Effectivement on peut pas comparer la Thailande avec St Tropez, mais aucun Top hôtels à St Tropez, c'est normal les bâteaux ou maisons sufisent aux star. Disons que pour une personne qui habitent en france et qui regarde la TV et lis les journaux français il a l'impression que St tropez est le top du top, quand on est en Thailande et qu'on lit les journaux locaux en anglais, on remarque qu'un grand nombres de stars mondiales vont en Thailande où on y trouve un grand nombres d'hôtels dans les meilleurs du monde donc parfois Top of the world n'est pas usupé sur certains point. Pour la Jet set le monde est leur maison.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
bonjour Pimilan,
pour tout te dire .. ce que j'apprécie en Thaïlande, c'est que presque partout il y en ait pour toutes les bourses .. la plus belle plage n'est pas réservée aux plus fortunés.. mais c'est en train de changer.. si il y a un truc que je déteste, c'est bien le spectacle des riches donné aux touristes comme attraction .. j'espère bien ne pas trouver ça en Thaïlande.
Surtout le seul conseil que je peux te donner si tu aimes plus ou moins le calme faut pas aller loger à Patong, et je promets qui il a des coins de rêve faut simplement un moyen de locomotion tu loues une motobyke et c'est bon, fais toute la côte Ouest le long de la mer tu en prendras plein les yeux, une ville à faire aussi c'est Phuket-Town du côté des halles tu as un quartier Chinatown très sympa .
Totalement faux cher barbot Il existe par exemple un petit hôtel à 2 km du centre de patong, à 300 mètres du Novotel, hyper tranquille Pas un bruit sauf le chant des oiseaux avec des bungalows tout en teck, dans la foret, avec une rivière au milieu Les bungalows sont spacieux dispersés dans la nature Tout cela pour 1500 b petit déjeuner inclus Il faut bien connaître un endroit avant de porter des jugements hâtifs
Je ne comprends cette haine de patong On peut être au calme si on veut ou avoir de l’animation si on veut C’est un endroit fantastique, on connaît plein de monde maintenant, on y est comme chez nous. D’ailleurs plein de couples de français (pas des hommes seuls !) y passent des mois entiers depuis plus de 20 ans
Nous on va sur les plages désertes de rêve et les îles la journée mais on s’amuse beaucoup à patong le soir Pour nous Les plages désertes le soir c'est tristounet
Totalement faux cher barbot Il existe par exemple un petit hôtel à 2 km du centre de patong, à 300 mètres du Novotel, hyper tranquille Pas un bruit sauf le chant des oiseaux avec des bungalows tout en teck, dans la foret, avec une rivière au milieu Les bungalows sont spacieux dispersés dans la nature Tout cela pour 1500 b petit déjeuner inclus Il faut bien connaître un endroit avant de porter des jugements hâtifs
Je ne comprends cette haine de patong On peut être au calme si on veut ou avoir de l’animation si on veut C’est un endroit fantastique, on connaît plein de monde maintenant, on y est comme chez nous. D’ailleurs plein de couples de français (pas des hommes seuls !) y passent des mois entiers depuis plus de 20 ans
Nous on va sur les plages désertes de rêve et les îles la journée mais on s’amuse beaucoup à patong le soir Pour nous Les plages désertes le soir c'est tristounet
Totalement faux cher barbot
Il existe par exemple un petit hôtel à 2 km du centre de patong, à 300 mètres du Novotel, hyper tranquille
Pas un bruit sauf le chant des oiseaux
avec des bungalows tout en teck, dans la foret, avec une rivière au milieu
Là oui ok, mais en centre ville pas pour moi en tout cas .
Là oui ok, mais en centre ville pas pour moi en tout cas .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Effectivement on peut pas comparer la Thailande avec St Tropez, mais aucun Top hôtels à St Tropez, c'est normal les bâteaux ou maisons sufisent aux star. Disons que pour une personne qui habitent en france et qui regarde la TV et lis les journaux français il a l'impression que St tropez est le top du top, quand on est en Thailande et qu'on lit les journaux locaux en anglais, on remarque qu'un grand nombres de stars mondiales vont en Thailande où on y trouve un grand nombres d'hôtels dans les meilleurs du monde donc parfois Top of the world n'est pas usupé sur certains point. Pour la Jet set le monde est leur maison.
ce qu'il y a de bien avec vous mr pimilan, c'est que non seulement vous avez du mal a ecrire St Tropez correctement, et en plus vous arrivez a dire une c.... par ligne, pas d'hotel top ? cà c'est quoi ? :
http://www.ot-saint-tropez.com/fr/hot/hotindex.php
et encore ils n'y sont pas tous, certains se passent de pub, etant réservés un an sur l'autre, ma fille y vit, j'y ai vecu, apparament vous le connaissez coté"suceur de glace", ou par la presse people, la vie nocturne a S Trop (comme on dit chez nous) c'est une vie nocturne UNIQUE au monde, mais pour cela, il faut soit faire partie du ghotta, soit avoir ses entrées par ses qualités personnelles, 2 choses dont je doute que vous ayez, ce qui ne leve rien au charme de Phuket,
ce qu'il y a de bien avec vous mr pimilan, c'est que non seulement vous avez du mal a ecrire St Tropez correctement, et en plus vous arrivez a dire une c.... par ligne, pas d'hotel top ? cà c'est quoi ? :
http://www.ot-saint-tropez.com/fr/hot/hotindex.php
et encore ils n'y sont pas tous, certains se passent de pub, etant réservés un an sur l'autre, ma fille y vit, j'y ai vecu, apparament vous le connaissez coté"suceur de glace", ou par la presse people, la vie nocturne a S Trop (comme on dit chez nous) c'est une vie nocturne UNIQUE au monde, mais pour cela, il faut soit faire partie du ghotta, soit avoir ses entrées par ses qualités personnelles, 2 choses dont je doute que vous ayez, ce qui ne leve rien au charme de Phuket,
On peut être au calme si on veut ou avoir de l’animation si on veut
il y a meme un bar/club harley-davison du feu de Dieu, avec collector de tee shirts des clubs du monde entier, qq belles(voitures) americaines sixties, et une Fiat 600 "plage" siege en rotin de toute beautée direction et personnel super sympa, ambiance et musique super pour passer une soirée decontract !
😎
il y a meme un bar/club harley-davison du feu de Dieu, avec collector de tee shirts des clubs du monde entier, qq belles(voitures) americaines sixties, et une Fiat 600 "plage" siege en rotin de toute beautée direction et personnel super sympa, ambiance et musique super pour passer une soirée decontract !
😎
Cher Voyageurasie, Par Top hôtel j'entend faisant partie des meilleurs du monde...Et malheureusement pour vous AUCUN hôtels na JAMAIS fait partie des TOP, que se soit le Byblos ou d'autres...J'ai eu la chance depuis l'âge de 18 ans de me promener dans des grands hôtels sur 4 continents et les stars louent un bâteau à St tropeX. Quand à la vie nocturne de St tropeX elle est "endormie" comparé à Pattaya...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Cher Voyageurasie, Par Top hôtel j'entend faisant partie des meilleurs du monde...Et malheureusement pour vous AUCUN hôtels na JAMAIS fait partie des TOP, que se soit le Byblos ou d'autres...J'ai eu la chance depuis l'âge de 18 ans de me promener dans des grands hôtels sur 4 continents et les stars louent un bâteau à St tropeX. Quand à la vie nocturne de St tropeX elle est "endormie" comparé à Pattaya...
c'est bien ce que je disais, une c... par ligne,
avez vous vecu St Trop ?, a quelle epoque ?, vous avez frequenter qui et quoi et ou ?
quelle est votre définition des meilleurs hotels du monde ?
c'est bien ce que je disais, une c... par ligne,
avez vous vecu St Trop ?, a quelle epoque ?, vous avez frequenter qui et quoi et ou ?
quelle est votre définition des meilleurs hotels du monde ?
Tout d'abord vivre à un endroit et aller à l'hôtel n'a rien à voir...En plus difficile de comparer des "resorts" avec des hôtel en ville. Bien sûr que la "définition" de luxe est assez subjective, mais le cadre, le nombre d'employés, la qualité des restaurants et des chambres/sdb sont des éléments qui peuvent servir.
Volilà mon classement personnel avec l'attribution des points sur BKK.
The criteria are 10 points for location 10 points for architecture 10 points for room 10 points for bathroom
20 for restaurants 20 for facilities and 20 for service. Of course it's absolutely subjective. Hotel with a 0 i stay personnally, they other one i go eat, a friend go recently or i have enough information about it
0 1.Peninsula Best Luxury 10.10.10..10..19..20.20...99
02. OrientalBest Luxury...............10....9.....9.....10....20.....20....20.....98 0 3. Grand Hyatt Best Luxury..... 10.....10....9....10....19.....20....19.....97 0 4. Shangri-là Best Luxury .........10....10...9.....9 .....19.....20....19.....96 5. Sheraton Gde Luxury.............. 9..... 9... 10... 10.....18.... 20... 19... 95 6. Sukhothai Luxury............ ........9.... 10... 9... 10.... 18.... 19....19.....94 07. Landmark Luxury...................10....9......9.....9......18.....18.....19...92 08. Sofitel Plaza Luxury................9....9......9.....9.......18.....20....18....92 9. JW Marriot Luxury.................... 9... 9..... 9.... 9..... 18.... 19.... 19... 92 010.Dusit Thani Luxury................10.... 9.... 9.... 9..... 18.... 19... 18.... 92 011. Westin Pacific Luxury........... 9 ....8... 9..... 9..... 18.... 19... 18.... 90 012. Watergate Am. Mod. luxury.. 9... 8..... 8.... 9......18.... 18... 18.....88 013.Arnoma Sup.First class ........9.... 8..... 8..... 8......18.... 17.. 18..... 86 014.Princess Pat. Sup first class 9... .8.... 8...... 8..... 17... 18.... 18 .....86 15. Imperial Q.Park Sup. first class 9.. 8... 8.... 8..... 17.... 19... 17..... 86 016.Ambassador tower First class 9 ....8.....8 ..8...... 16 .....17.... 17.... 83 017. Amari airport First class ........8.... 8 ...8... 8..... 16... 17..... 17..... 82 018. Rembrandt First class .........8 ....8.... 7..... 8 .....17.... 17 .....17 ....82 019. Four wings First class......... 7.... 8...... 8.... 8..... 16....17... 17..... 81 020. Bayoke sky First class....... 8..... 8.... 8......9..... 16..... 17... 15.... 81
Et voilà le classement sur les 2 dernières années du condé nast ( je l'ai est sur 10 ans aussi) Travel is important for me to meet new country, new people and new custom. I especially like different style in architecture. From Conde Nast magazine the best hotel in 2005. and Conde Nast in 2006--2005--2006 Four seasons Milan 96.2-- Peninsula Hong Kong 97.3 Peninsula Bangkok 95.9 --Four Seasons Istanbul 97.1 Peninsula Hongkong 95.5--Dominion 1912 Quebec 96.5 Mandarin Oriental San Francisco 95.1--Peninsula Bangkok 96.2 Fullerton Singapore 94.2 --George 5 Paris 96.1 Imperial-Wien-94.0-- --Raffles the Plaza 96.0 Four seasons New York 93.9-- Cape Grace Le Cap 95.8 Four seasons Bangkok 93.8 --Four Seasons Chicago 95.7 Oriental Bangkok 93.3 -- Four seasons Milan 95.6 Claridge London 93.2 -- Oriental Bangkok 94.6 Of course it's a subjective classification, the criteria are Location, Food, Rooms, Activities, Service. I made a more complete classification in Travelogue's homepage a private classification of Bangkok hotels in Bangkok page. Sur le classement du condé nast qui demande l'avis d'environ 30'000 personnes chaque année je suis allé au Mandarin Oriental de San Francisco, le Peninisula et l'Orientaléde Bangkok, on peut voir aussi pleins d'autres classements bien sûr et la plupart son ses mêmes hôtels. Autre classification celle du official and travel index
0 1.Peninsula Best Luxury 10.10.10..10..19..20.20...99
02. OrientalBest Luxury...............10....9.....9.....10....20.....20....20.....98 0 3. Grand Hyatt Best Luxury..... 10.....10....9....10....19.....20....19.....97 0 4. Shangri-là Best Luxury .........10....10...9.....9 .....19.....20....19.....96 5. Sheraton Gde Luxury.............. 9..... 9... 10... 10.....18.... 20... 19... 95 6. Sukhothai Luxury............ ........9.... 10... 9... 10.... 18.... 19....19.....94 07. Landmark Luxury...................10....9......9.....9......18.....18.....19...92 08. Sofitel Plaza Luxury................9....9......9.....9.......18.....20....18....92 9. JW Marriot Luxury.................... 9... 9..... 9.... 9..... 18.... 19.... 19... 92 010.Dusit Thani Luxury................10.... 9.... 9.... 9..... 18.... 19... 18.... 92 011. Westin Pacific Luxury........... 9 ....8... 9..... 9..... 18.... 19... 18.... 90 012. Watergate Am. Mod. luxury.. 9... 8..... 8.... 9......18.... 18... 18.....88 013.Arnoma Sup.First class ........9.... 8..... 8..... 8......18.... 17.. 18..... 86 014.Princess Pat. Sup first class 9... .8.... 8...... 8..... 17... 18.... 18 .....86 15. Imperial Q.Park Sup. first class 9.. 8... 8.... 8..... 17.... 19... 17..... 86 016.Ambassador tower First class 9 ....8.....8 ..8...... 16 .....17.... 17.... 83 017. Amari airport First class ........8.... 8 ...8... 8..... 16... 17..... 17..... 82 018. Rembrandt First class .........8 ....8.... 7..... 8 .....17.... 17 .....17 ....82 019. Four wings First class......... 7.... 8...... 8.... 8..... 16....17... 17..... 81 020. Bayoke sky First class....... 8..... 8.... 8......9..... 16..... 17... 15.... 81
Et voilà le classement sur les 2 dernières années du condé nast ( je l'ai est sur 10 ans aussi) Travel is important for me to meet new country, new people and new custom. I especially like different style in architecture. From Conde Nast magazine the best hotel in 2005. and Conde Nast in 2006--2005--2006 Four seasons Milan 96.2-- Peninsula Hong Kong 97.3 Peninsula Bangkok 95.9 --Four Seasons Istanbul 97.1 Peninsula Hongkong 95.5--Dominion 1912 Quebec 96.5 Mandarin Oriental San Francisco 95.1--Peninsula Bangkok 96.2 Fullerton Singapore 94.2 --George 5 Paris 96.1 Imperial-Wien-94.0-- --Raffles the Plaza 96.0 Four seasons New York 93.9-- Cape Grace Le Cap 95.8 Four seasons Bangkok 93.8 --Four Seasons Chicago 95.7 Oriental Bangkok 93.3 -- Four seasons Milan 95.6 Claridge London 93.2 -- Oriental Bangkok 94.6 Of course it's a subjective classification, the criteria are Location, Food, Rooms, Activities, Service. I made a more complete classification in Travelogue's homepage a private classification of Bangkok hotels in Bangkok page. Sur le classement du condé nast qui demande l'avis d'environ 30'000 personnes chaque année je suis allé au Mandarin Oriental de San Francisco, le Peninisula et l'Orientaléde Bangkok, on peut voir aussi pleins d'autres classements bien sûr et la plupart son ses mêmes hôtels. Autre classification celle du official and travel index
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
eloquent comme classement personnel,
et ma 2° question, on zappe ? : <>
juste pour savoir sur quoi vous vous basez pour comparer la vie nocturne Tropezienne/Pattayene
et ma 2° question, on zappe ? : <>
juste pour savoir sur quoi vous vous basez pour comparer la vie nocturne Tropezienne/Pattayene
c pas mal st troop
je peu te dire que j'y ai user des nuits, avant de devenir un "bouseux" de l'Issan, (par choix)
mais mr pimilan va t'expliquer mieux que moi, (peut etre)
😉😄
je peu te dire que j'y ai user des nuits, avant de devenir un "bouseux" de l'Issan, (par choix)
mais mr pimilan va t'expliquer mieux que moi, (peut etre)
😉😄
Pattaya-St trop c'est comme comparé Italie-france au Foot 4 à 1 au niveau CM...Pattaya a 100 fois plus d'habitants que St trop et 100 fois plus de bars...Je l'ai déjà dit je n'aime pas trop la campagne et St trop c'est la campagne donc aucun intérêt,
mais maintenant je comprend mieux pourquoi un habitant de STrop apptrécie l'Isaan cela lui rappelle la maison...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Pattaya-St trop c'est comme comparé Italie-france au Foot 4 à 1 au niveau CM...Pattaya a 100 fois plus d'habitants que St trop et 100 fois plus de bars...Je l'ai déjà dit je n'aime pas trop la campagne et St trop c'est la campagne donc aucun intérêt,
mais maintenant je comprend mieux pourquoi un habitant de STrop apptrécie l'Isaan cela lui rappelle la maison...
Merci de votre réponse, donc, ne connaissant pas PERSONNELLEMENT la vie nocturne de St Tropez, vous parlez pour rien dire quand vous essayez pathetiquement de comparer, je m'en doutais, là au moins tout le monde peu constater vos elucubrations fantaisistes, c'est tout ce que je desirais, 😏😏😏 pour le reste comme d'habitude, dés que vous perdez pieds, c'est encore de la mechanceté gratuite, comme quoi on peu fréquenter les palaces et avoir une mentalité de concierge (pas d'homme au clés d'or, trop class)
fin du débat 😐
Merci de votre réponse, donc, ne connaissant pas PERSONNELLEMENT la vie nocturne de St Tropez, vous parlez pour rien dire quand vous essayez pathetiquement de comparer, je m'en doutais, là au moins tout le monde peu constater vos elucubrations fantaisistes, c'est tout ce que je desirais, 😏😏😏 pour le reste comme d'habitude, dés que vous perdez pieds, c'est encore de la mechanceté gratuite, comme quoi on peu fréquenter les palaces et avoir une mentalité de concierge (pas d'homme au clés d'or, trop class)
fin du débat 😐
On peut habiter en suisse et être italien...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
"c'est comme comparé Italie-france au Foot 4 à 1 au niveau CM"
cela veut dire quoi exactement??????? Monsieur le suisse
laisse tomber
😉
cela veut dire quoi exactement??????? Monsieur le suisse
laisse tomber
😉
là au moins tout le monde peu constater vos elucubrations fantaisistes,
De Voyageurasie
Si les nuits de Sttrop vous conviennent mieux que celle de Pattaya et bien vous êtes un grand snob.
Si les nuits de Sttrop vous conviennent mieux que celle de Pattaya et bien vous êtes un grand snob.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
là au moins tout le monde peu constater vos elucubrations fantaisistes,
De Voyageurasie
Si les nuits de Sttrop vous conviennent mieux que celle de Pattaya et bien vous êtes un grand snob.
1 metre 73 MDR 😄😄😄
Si les nuits de Sttrop vous conviennent mieux que celle de Pattaya et bien vous êtes un grand snob.
1 metre 73 MDR 😄😄😄
la vie nocturne a S Trop (comme on dit chez nous) c'est une vie nocturne S Trop c'est une vie UNIQUE au monde,
mais pour cela, il faut soit faire partie du ghotta, soit avoir ses entrées par ses qualités personnelles,
2 choses dont je doute que vous ayez, de Voyageurasie
Quel chance vous avez de faire partie du Gotha... Vous le méritez vraiment par votre language raffiné. Mais Pattaya c'est pas aussi une vie unique ? Et beaucoup d'endroits au monde ont une vie unique, croire que l'on vécu le sommet parceu'on à vécu à St tropette c'est des clopinettes.
Chômage à St tropette 15 %
Quel chance vous avez de faire partie du Gotha... Vous le méritez vraiment par votre language raffiné. Mais Pattaya c'est pas aussi une vie unique ? Et beaucoup d'endroits au monde ont une vie unique, croire que l'on vécu le sommet parceu'on à vécu à St tropette c'est des clopinettes.
Chômage à St tropette 15 %
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Il semble qu'il y a eu plutôt 3-1...mais en général il n'y a pas de comparaison avec le passion du foot entre le 2 pays.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
🙂St -Trop c'est démodé, c'est la destinations des vieux canards impotents., et vieilles morues .maintenant tout le monde fonce en Croatie😉
tu croa ?
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tu croa ?
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Il faut quand même dire que même si on a pas été à St tropette les 2/3 de l'année cela doit être quand même calme à moins que les 5000 et des charettes habitants de cette demi-ville soient tous des foireurs.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Il faut quand même dire que même si on a pas été à St tropette les 2/3 de l'année cela doit être quand même calme à moins que les 5000 et des charettes habitants de cette demi-ville soient tous des foireurs.
mr pimilan votre vernis d'etre civilisé est entrain de se fissurer serieux, je vais vous faire un peu de hors sujet, ce qui ne manquera pas d'amuser les lecteurs amoureux de la Thailande (dont je vous exclu) pour votre gouverne j'ai frequenté beaucoup d'endroits au "top" et de palaces, et cotoyer des gens dont vous ne pouvez meme pas imaginer l'exsistence, ce qui me permet de deceler les "petits envieux "dans votre genre, tout cela pour en venir a ce que je vais vous dire :
ce soir dans mon petit village bouseux et minable au bord du Mekong, je suis aller a la fete de fin de careme: bateaux illuminés, mongolfieres, petards, des enfants avec de la joie dans les yeux, l'odeur des grillades, chanteurs et danseuses Issans, rythmes envoutants, chansons "a capella", meme les Issans mao mak mak qui dansent devant le podium on le sourire, ma place je ne l"echangerais pour rien au monde, et ce n'est pas une question d'age ou de moyens,
alors vos photos de gonzesses de bar ( que l'on vous a helas effacées), vos palaces de pacotilles, vos restaus chics et branchés, vos comparatifs bidonnés, vos statistiques et vos quantitatifs, je vous dis pas ou vous pouvez vous les mettre, continuez a épier les profils et les posts, pour vous en servir a votre façon, cà vous va trés bien, et tout ce que vous pourrez me répondre me passe a 10000, vous ne valez pas le millieme du plus modeste des paysans Issan
😄
mr pimilan votre vernis d'etre civilisé est entrain de se fissurer serieux, je vais vous faire un peu de hors sujet, ce qui ne manquera pas d'amuser les lecteurs amoureux de la Thailande (dont je vous exclu) pour votre gouverne j'ai frequenté beaucoup d'endroits au "top" et de palaces, et cotoyer des gens dont vous ne pouvez meme pas imaginer l'exsistence, ce qui me permet de deceler les "petits envieux "dans votre genre, tout cela pour en venir a ce que je vais vous dire :
ce soir dans mon petit village bouseux et minable au bord du Mekong, je suis aller a la fete de fin de careme: bateaux illuminés, mongolfieres, petards, des enfants avec de la joie dans les yeux, l'odeur des grillades, chanteurs et danseuses Issans, rythmes envoutants, chansons "a capella", meme les Issans mao mak mak qui dansent devant le podium on le sourire, ma place je ne l"echangerais pour rien au monde, et ce n'est pas une question d'age ou de moyens,
alors vos photos de gonzesses de bar ( que l'on vous a helas effacées), vos palaces de pacotilles, vos restaus chics et branchés, vos comparatifs bidonnés, vos statistiques et vos quantitatifs, je vous dis pas ou vous pouvez vous les mettre, continuez a épier les profils et les posts, pour vous en servir a votre façon, cà vous va trés bien, et tout ce que vous pourrez me répondre me passe a 10000, vous ne valez pas le millieme du plus modeste des paysans Issan
😄
pour votre gouverne j'ai frequenté beaucoup d'endroits au "top" et de palaces, et cotoyer des gens dont vous ne pouvez meme pas imaginer l'exsistence, de Voyageurasie
C'est d'autant plus inexcusable de croire que les hôtels de st trop sont aux top... bateaux illuminés, mongolfieres, petards, des enfants avec de la joie dans les yeux, l'odeur des grillades,
chanteurs et danseuses Issans, rythmes envoutants, chansons "a capella", meme les Issans mao mak mak qui dansent devant le podium on le sourire, de Voyageurasie Volià quelqu'un qui s'extasie parce qu'il retrouve ses émotions de jeunesses comme quoi la vie est un éternel recommencement...Quand à m'exclure des amoureux de la Thailande, je vois que MONSIEUR se considère pour Dieu le père et rien que le fait de dire que l'Isaan est mon pays...Vous l'avez acheter combien ?
alors vos photos de gonzesses de bar ( que l'on vous a helas effacées) de Voyageurasie.
Cela vous a rapellé le temps où vous les avez fréquentées ?
vos restaus chics et branchés, de Voyageurasie
Je n'est jamais conseillé de restos chics et branchés, on perd la mémoire ?
vous ne valez pas le millieme du plus
modeste des paysans Issan, de Voyageurasie
Bien sûr, mais Vous vous en valez mille en terme d'argent...
Et le plus important vous êtes encore très loin de la sagesse à force de donner vouloir donner des leçons, toute vos belles phrases font rire les Dieux.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
ce soir dans mon petit village bouseux et minable au bord du Mekong, je suis aller a la fete de fin de careme:
bateaux illuminés, mongolfieres, petards, des enfants avec de la joie dans les yeux, l'odeur des grillades,
chanteurs et danseuses Issans, rythmes envoutants, chansons "a capella", meme les Issans mao mak mak qui dansent devant le podium on le sourire,
la tu fait 1 jaloux, , , , , , , , , , , , , pour phuket, , il y a le pire et le meilleur, , et cela est voulu deliberement par les gens de phuket, , c'est a nous de choisir ou on veut aller, ,
la tu fait 1 jaloux, , , , , , , , , , , , , pour phuket, , il y a le pire et le meilleur, , et cela est voulu deliberement par les gens de phuket, , c'est a nous de choisir ou on veut aller, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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il semble que pimilan etvoyageurasie ne vont pas passer leurs vacances ensemble 😏😏
a bon ?
😉
ce soir dans mon petit village bouseux et minable au bord du Mekong, je suis aller a la fete de fin de careme: bateaux illuminés, mongolfieres, petards, des enfants avec de la joie dans les yeux, l'odeur des grillades, chanteurs et danseuses Issans, rythmes envoutants, chansons "a capella", meme les Issans mao mak mak qui dansent devant le podium on le sourire,
la tu fait 1 jaloux, , , , , , , , , , , , , -- désolé - 😇
a bon ?
😉
ce soir dans mon petit village bouseux et minable au bord du Mekong, je suis aller a la fete de fin de careme: bateaux illuminés, mongolfieres, petards, des enfants avec de la joie dans les yeux, l'odeur des grillades, chanteurs et danseuses Issans, rythmes envoutants, chansons "a capella", meme les Issans mao mak mak qui dansent devant le podium on le sourire,
la tu fait 1 jaloux, , , , , , , , , , , , , -- désolé - 😇
Voyageurasie n'est pas un vrai amoureux de la Thailande, au mieux il est un amoureux de L'Isaan, et encore il enlève certainement les villes où il y a des bars et karaokés en Isaan, le plus rigolo c'est que pour pas mal de thai l'Isaan n'est pas considéré comme étant en Thailande, en plus avec un peu de clairvoyance considérer l'Isaan comme son pays, il n'a pas encore compris qu'un farang EST et SERA toujours considéré comm FARANG.
Concernant pixma, 3 fautes en 2 lignes difficile de faire mieux.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
M Pimilan, vous ne connaissez pas la Thailande!
Des hars et des karaokés, il y en a partout, même dans des hameaux de 150 habitants.
Des bordels et des hôtels à ST idem, au fin fond du trou du Q du monde... on en rencontre, certains en "dur", d'autres en bambou et feuilles de bananier...
Il y a longtemps que Voyageurasie a compris certaines choses...il n'a nulle besoin de s'épancher sur VF; moi même je suis et serai toujours un falang en Thailande . A propos, l'Issan est la plus grande province de Thailande et je ne connais aucun thai qui ne m'ait jamais dit qu'elle ne soit pas considérée en Thailande!!
Pour les autres.... Il a vasé comme vache qui pisse toute la nuit; le parking du Lotus de Nong Khai ressemblait à une grande piscine olympique ce midi. Ben oui, il n'y a pas qu'à Pattaya qu'il y a de jolis super marchés!
Voyageurasie n'est pas un vrai amoureux de la Thailande, au mieux il est un amoureux de L'Isaan, et encore il enlève certainement les villes où il y a des bars et karaokés en Isaan, le plus rigolo c'est que pour pas mal de thai l'Isaan n'est pas considéré comme étant en Thailande, en plus avec un peu de clairvoyance considérer l'Isaan comme son pays, il n'a pas encore compris qu'un farang EST et SERA toujours considéré comm FARANG. Concernant pixma, 3 fautes en 2 lignes difficile de faire mieux.
Il y a longtemps que Voyageurasie a compris certaines choses...il n'a nulle besoin de s'épancher sur VF; moi même je suis et serai toujours un falang en Thailande . A propos, l'Issan est la plus grande province de Thailande et je ne connais aucun thai qui ne m'ait jamais dit qu'elle ne soit pas considérée en Thailande!!
Pour les autres.... Il a vasé comme vache qui pisse toute la nuit; le parking du Lotus de Nong Khai ressemblait à une grande piscine olympique ce midi. Ben oui, il n'y a pas qu'à Pattaya qu'il y a de jolis super marchés!
Voyageurasie n'est pas un vrai amoureux de la Thailande, au mieux il est un amoureux de L'Isaan, et encore il enlève certainement les villes où il y a des bars et karaokés en Isaan, le plus rigolo c'est que pour pas mal de thai l'Isaan n'est pas considéré comme étant en Thailande, en plus avec un peu de clairvoyance considérer l'Isaan comme son pays, il n'a pas encore compris qu'un farang EST et SERA toujours considéré comm FARANG. Concernant pixma, 3 fautes en 2 lignes difficile de faire mieux.
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
Peut etre au stade de Lumpini
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bonjour,
sans vous offenser, je pense que vous ne comprenez pas très bien le déroulement de cette discussion.
cordialement
🙂
(ceci est un aparte : svp, peut-on éviter de reproduire sur VF les us et coutumes à faire fuir qui règnent sur FT ? )
cordialement
🙂
(ceci est un aparte : svp, peut-on éviter de reproduire sur VF les us et coutumes à faire fuir qui règnent sur FT ? )
Cher Hoangnam49,
Je m'incline devant les nouveaux venus, dont faites partie, quel connaissance de la Thailande avez-vous ?
Depuis 1980 je vais en Thailande et je suis marié depuis 1990 avec une femme thai, on a un bus 12 places depuis une douzaine d'année que je conduis et le compteur affiche 160'000 KM, principalement pour se promener dans les endroits ou il n'y a pas de touristes, dans la province de Petchabun, entre autre, j'y ai fait construire une maison, on a eu 3 enfants, j'y ai habité, une fois 6 mois et une fois 1 année, plus de très nombreux voyages de 4-6 semaines, j'ai vu grandir le pays, le changement des lois, la construction des routes, je suis même allé dans des endroits touristiques comme Ayuttahya, Sukhothai, Lopburi, Phuket, koh Phi phi, koh samet et encore d'autres et c'est un nouveau qui a peur de conduire en Thailande qui devrait tout m'apprendre et me faire la leçon je trouve votre façon de connaitre un pays un peu...limitée.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
😉 sALUT, mon post aura creer une longue discussion...bon vous voulez des news de PHI PHI en direct.
Alors je maintiens que PHUKET cest pas mon trip et jai pas trouve ca (je sais je vais me faire des ennemis😕) mais voila apres avoir fait l AUSTRALIE et la polynesie, PHUKET ne memballe pas et encore moins tous ces sacs plastics bon PHI PHI a bien changer et quel dommage de dire que les plages sont devenus des poubelles ( mais toujours aussi belle au niveau couleur) . nous avons fait comme dhab notre tour en canoe de la plage de PHI PHI en passant par Monkey beach et en rejoignant la cave ( pour ceux qui connaissent). MONkey beach est devenu la pire decheterie..ca fait mal au coeur de voir toutes ces tonnes de poubelles et le pire cest que en canoe on essayer de rammasser toutes les bouteilles enm plastic smais cest trop... je vous mets qq photos pour ceux qui veulent voir le changement...( plus en MP)
je suis etonne de voir toutes les ordures joncher les plages et que la thailande continue de distribuer des sac plastic...😛
PS : cest pas parce que jecris ca que je suis capricieuse ou que je naime pas la THAI pour ceux qui prennebt tous au 1er degre.. jvous donne juste des news...
Alors je maintiens que PHUKET cest pas mon trip et jai pas trouve ca (je sais je vais me faire des ennemis😕) mais voila apres avoir fait l AUSTRALIE et la polynesie, PHUKET ne memballe pas et encore moins tous ces sacs plastics bon PHI PHI a bien changer et quel dommage de dire que les plages sont devenus des poubelles ( mais toujours aussi belle au niveau couleur) . nous avons fait comme dhab notre tour en canoe de la plage de PHI PHI en passant par Monkey beach et en rejoignant la cave ( pour ceux qui connaissent). MONkey beach est devenu la pire decheterie..ca fait mal au coeur de voir toutes ces tonnes de poubelles et le pire cest que en canoe on essayer de rammasser toutes les bouteilles enm plastic smais cest trop... je vous mets qq photos pour ceux qui veulent voir le changement...( plus en MP)
je suis etonne de voir toutes les ordures joncher les plages et que la thailande continue de distribuer des sac plastic...😛
PS : cest pas parce que jecris ca que je suis capricieuse ou que je naime pas la THAI pour ceux qui prennebt tous au 1er degre.. jvous donne juste des news...
La vie à la même valeur peut importe la taille de l'être qui la porte !
ah ! Trotteuse, t'imaginais pas hein ?
😉
😉
😉 Je suppose ça:
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j'imaginais pas quoi??
j'imaginais pas quoi??
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
oui voila, perso jy etait juste ya 4ans, mon mari est venu aussi ya 6 ans, peut importe meme si le temp passe, ce que je veux dire cest que les plages SONT REMPLIS de dechets, jai limpression que ca derangent personne. on a passe la moitie de laprem dans leau et en se baignant, mon mari enlevait les sacs plasti et cannettes de l eau. On est restes hier sur la plage ( phi phi) a observer les touristes, la plupart passent et se baignent avec les bouteilles en plastic et prennent meme pas le temp de l"enlever de l'eau.😕. De toute facon jcrois peut etre quon est des mutants moi et mon mari..... en tout cas ces tristes de voir ca.......
Peut etre trop proche de la nature????🙁
la photo que jai pris de la plage avec les dechets ne passent pas ( poid eleve) je la met en rentrant en France.
la photo que jai pris de la plage avec les dechets ne passent pas ( poid eleve) je la met en rentrant en France.
La vie à la même valeur peut importe la taille de l'être qui la porte !
Mais existe-t-il encore des plages naturelles facile d'accès sur la planète ?
Quand j'étais à Tahiti en 1980, sur la grande île le sable est noir et l'hôtel ou je logeais avait tout simplement remplacé le sable noir par du blanc parce que les clients ne trouvait pas le sable noir joli...
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Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
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3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
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Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
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We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
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I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
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Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
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Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
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Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.















