Cycling trips—how old is too old?
by 178jules
Translated into English.
To answer the question: I’ll let you know when I stop! For now—turning 72 in two days—I’ve got a "Portugal tour" planned for spring... and a "Crete tour" as a backup plan... http://www.lethieu39.fr/dans-les-cartons-les-projets/
In the meantime, happy New Year and safe travels to all...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Hi Françoise,
I browsed this forum some time ago, looking to buy a "nice" touring bike. I was in great shape back then (well, for my 66 years, at least)...
Three weeks ago, though I never thought I was at risk (healthy lifestyle and all), I had a sudden heart attack after cycling 4 km in the cold... I’ve since learned that cold is a major risk factor, just like stress, smoking, or being overweight.
After a bit of a "slump"—since I really need physical activity (this year, I was planning to hike around Mont Blanc and cycle down the Loire)—reading about your health issues actually cheered me up! Thanks again, safe travels, and watch out for the cold!
Christian
PS: I couldn’t get your website to open.
Before I posted my last message, I hadn’t read yours about your vertebra fracture! I hope you’ve been recovering well since November. Hang in there!
Christian
It's true that "at our age," something can happen to us in no time, and a heart attack—just the word is scary!
But it's not the end of sports in many cases. I have a brother who's 3 years younger than me. He overdid it with marathons and more, had a heart attack, and the doctor prescribed him 1 to 2 hours of cycling a day. I had to fight with him to get him to buy a heart rate monitor... I'm not even sure he did it!
not being a high-risk person (healthy lifestyle)
Healthy lifestyle—what *is* a healthy lifestyle? If I believe some sources, we're far from the truth, and even our various specialists, with help from pharmaceutical labs, might be leading us to the slaughterhouse—look into the statin scandal, by the way, that might interest you. Check out "Michel de Lorgeril" online.
not being a high-risk person (healthy lifestyle)
Healthy lifestyle—what *is* a healthy lifestyle? If I believe some sources, we're far from the truth, and even our various specialists, with help from pharmaceutical labs, might be leading us to the slaughterhouse—look into the statin scandal, by the way, that might interest you. Check out "Michel de Lorgeril" online.
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
"Good lifestyle habits" for me mean:
- daily physical activity: walking or cycling (that’s my "vehicle" for getting around town every day, not to mention outings when the weather’s nice) + 1 hour of gym per week
- balanced diet (plenty of fruit and veg, very little cold cuts, eggs, cooking with olive oil…)
- no tobacco
- little alcohol: at parties with friends, a bottle of wine now and then… apparently, I don’t drink enough: 1 to 2 glasses of red wine recommended per day! 😉
I only found out what statins are after my health scare… they’re one of the meds I was given because my bad cholesterol is slightly above the norm… the pharma lobby really got me, I’ll bring it up with my cardiologist at my next visit.
My "personal pipes" were probably in bad shape, but it was clearly the physical effort—limited, but without warming up—that triggered it. Christian
I only found out what statins are after my health scare… they’re one of the meds I was given because my bad cholesterol is slightly above the norm… the pharma lobby really got me, I’ll bring it up with my cardiologist at my next visit.
My "personal pipes" were probably in bad shape, but it was clearly the physical effort—limited, but without warming up—that triggered it. Christian
Hey MICHEL
Saw your blog with your two projects—nice one! You’re heading to Portugal—are you flying or sorting it out by train?
Any worries about your gear if you’re thinking of taking a flight??
That’s what kinda scares me and keeps me in FRANCE.
GOOD PREP
Saw your blog with your two projects—nice one! You’re heading to Portugal—are you flying or sorting it out by train?
Any worries about your gear if you’re thinking of taking a flight??
That’s what kinda scares me and keeps me in FRANCE.
GOOD PREP
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
You're doing Portugal—are you flying or organizing train travel?
Do you have any concerns about your gear when you consider flying?
That’s what scares me a bit and keeps me limited to FRANCE.
Thanks... I’m planning to fly into Porto and back from Lisbon (EasyJet). So far, I’ve been lucky—just one or two minor "fixes" despite only using "low-cost" airlines. But I’ve always flown from Lyon or Geneva to or from "regional" airports. Is that related to my crazy luck??? All I know is that things go smoothly if airport managers, handlers, and subcontractors are decent and people aren’t too "under pressure." And it’s certain that at some airports (Paris??), it’s really sketchy...
One year, I tried an "all-ferry" solution: left the bus in a Venice parking lot and took a ferry for a "Greek island tour." It could’ve worked for a Greece, Crete, Italy, or even Sardinia and Corsica trip—from one port, you can easily expand your horizons—but boats are *so* slow!!! Happy trails...
Thanks... I’m planning to fly into Porto and back from Lisbon (EasyJet). So far, I’ve been lucky—just one or two minor "fixes" despite only using "low-cost" airlines. But I’ve always flown from Lyon or Geneva to or from "regional" airports. Is that related to my crazy luck??? All I know is that things go smoothly if airport managers, handlers, and subcontractors are decent and people aren’t too "under pressure." And it’s certain that at some airports (Paris??), it’s really sketchy...
One year, I tried an "all-ferry" solution: left the bus in a Venice parking lot and took a ferry for a "Greek island tour." It could’ve worked for a Greece, Crete, Italy, or even Sardinia and Corsica trip—from one port, you can easily expand your horizons—but boats are *so* slow!!! Happy trails...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
But as I feared, there aren’t many seventy-somethings cycling on the forum. Counting me, we’re only 3 in total.
Patience—if I don’t kick the bucket first, in two years and five months we’ll be four, though gender parity still won’t be respected! Happy cycling, Françoise
Patience—if I don’t kick the bucket first, in two years and five months we’ll be four, though gender parity still won’t be respected! Happy cycling, Françoise
Françoise
www.frannycyclo.com
Hello everyone,
And in two years and seven months there will be five of us.......
Hey Lethieu!
Oh, you beat me by a few days—I turned 72 on 11/2!
Yeah, stress plays nasty tricks. I try to avoid it.
No extra weight for me (1.71m, 69kg).
Diet: Born in Dijon, I’m a bon vivant—I don’t deprive myself of anything, and I’ve been smoke-free since 1984!
I don’t cycle in winter but walk instead (10km/day).
I get back on the bike in March, doing 50km/day.
This year, I plan to start from Givet to the Baltic, then follow the old Iron Curtain down to the Adriatic, then northern Italy, cross the Alps, traverse France, visit one of my daughters in the Landes, and head back to Givet. There you go—departure around May 25, return end of August.
I live in campgrounds and under the tent, like a wild man, and I love it!
To everyone: drink cool and French!!!!!
Rigoll
JM
Before my possible (probable) tour of Portugal in a few days, I’m doing a 3-day loop in the Camargue, around the lagoons... and, as tradition dictates, heading to the Vélocio Easter gathering in Provence (usually from Rive de Gier to Gigondas).
Happy planning and have a great season to all seven of you...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
I haven’t been online for two years, but you can add one more septuagenarian—I just turned 74 and I’m really not in great shape anymore.
Cyclo 78 (Alain) 😉
Le vélo et la marche sans faire de compétition, ça maintien la forme
Hi everyone,
Like I did in 2016, I’m sharing a 3-month bike-trip project here for early 2017. This year it’ll be in Southeast Asia (Thailand – Cambodia – Laos) by mountain bike from January 4 to April 3, 2017.
The planned route map is here. There are a few variations, and the route isn’t set in stone. Whenever possible, we’ll take unpaved trails or dirt roads.
Right now, there are three of us—all men between 65 and 66 years old. The group can grow, and anyone interested can contact me through this forum or via private message. We already have our flight tickets for Lyon–Bangkok round trip.
The site where you can follow the trip is here.
The site for the 2016 trip to Mexico by recumbent trike is here.
The site for the 2014 and 2015 trips in Southeast Asia by recumbent trike is here.
The site for the 2011 classic bike trip and the 2013 recumbent trike trip is here.
Jean Marie
Like I did in 2016, I’m sharing a 3-month bike-trip project here for early 2017. This year it’ll be in Southeast Asia (Thailand – Cambodia – Laos) by mountain bike from January 4 to April 3, 2017.
The planned route map is here. There are a few variations, and the route isn’t set in stone. Whenever possible, we’ll take unpaved trails or dirt roads.
Right now, there are three of us—all men between 65 and 66 years old. The group can grow, and anyone interested can contact me through this forum or via private message. We already have our flight tickets for Lyon–Bangkok round trip.
The site where you can follow the trip is here.
The site for the 2016 trip to Mexico by recumbent trike is here.
The site for the 2014 and 2015 trips in Southeast Asia by recumbent trike is here.
The site for the 2011 classic bike trip and the 2013 recumbent trike trip is here.
Jean Marie
Hi there,
As I mentioned in my post last April, I had just turned 74. This year I managed to continue the EV6 from Basel to Radolfzell, then did a loop around Lake Constance. Back in Basel, I took the EV15 to Neuf-Brisach, then a little detour to Freiburg before returning to Guebwiller. Okay, I went a bit slower and was more tired in the evenings, but I was really happy with myself. Next year will be... another year ;) maybe sticking around the Yvelines. Alain
As I mentioned in my post last April, I had just turned 74. This year I managed to continue the EV6 from Basel to Radolfzell, then did a loop around Lake Constance. Back in Basel, I took the EV15 to Neuf-Brisach, then a little detour to Freiburg before returning to Guebwiller. Okay, I went a bit slower and was more tired in the evenings, but I was really happy with myself. Next year will be... another year ;) maybe sticking around the Yvelines. Alain
Le vélo et la marche sans faire de compétition, ça maintien la forme
Good evening,
Still going strong, but a year without cycling.
Walking and biking became too painful, so I decided to have hip surgery. Hip replacement in August after having some teeth pulled in July.
Feeling good now—finally making a gradual comeback—and a trip in 2017 is "in the works."
Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Bikes—how old is too old? Everyone’s got their own answer, or almost.
Last year we hiked western Sichuan on foot; I’d just had wrist surgery and one-handed cycling isn’t easy.
This year it was my husband’s turn to smash his shoulder and get a prosthesis. So we just bought e-bikes.
They let us get back on two wheels without putting too much strain on our shoulders.
We just rode the Verdon Gorge—gorgeous training ground.
Two more seventy-somethings still pedaling.
Good question. I'm 68, and since retiring I've done a round-the-world trip and several 3- to 5-month journeys. I try not to dwell on it too much, even though it's always in the back of my mind. My answer: enjoy the present and dream about the future.
Un brin de folie est comme l'argent: ça ne fait pas le bonheur, mais ça aide!
See post No. 7, which is still relevant.
je fus navigateur navigaterre , je reste navigaterre.
Qu'importe d'où nous venons, car nous pouvons aller beaucoup plus loin que ce dont nous avions révé .
Hi there... Wow, just looking at this site and especially this forum really lifts my spirits! Thailand, Cambodia, Laos... I’m full of admiration and envy!
Envious because if I hadn’t had a health issue in January, I would’ve done a bike trip in France in 2016 (either following the Loire or the Vélodyssée from Roscoff to Hendaye), and I would’ve loved to join you. Especially since I’m planning to visit that region soon.
Admiring because your trip planning seems really well thought out. I took a (too quick) look at your blogs and discovered your cyclist “gear” with interest, plus the "bikemap" site, which looks super useful.
Wishing you tailwinds for your trip! Christian
Envious because if I hadn’t had a health issue in January, I would’ve done a bike trip in France in 2016 (either following the Loire or the Vélodyssée from Roscoff to Hendaye), and I would’ve loved to join you. Especially since I’m planning to visit that region soon.
Admiring because your trip planning seems really well thought out. I took a (too quick) look at your blogs and discovered your cyclist “gear” with interest, plus the "bikemap" site, which looks super useful.
Wishing you tailwinds for your trip! Christian
Hi Navigaterre,
Your first post caught my eye, then I forgot about it. When I saw the second one, I thought, "Why not start a club, or just a group, or even a gathering blog?"
How do you see it—what format, minimum age, purpose, etc.?
Feel free to email me directly at 178jules at gmail.com to chat a bit more.
Other "senior" travelers on VoyageForum can share their thoughts or offer to join in.
178Jules, Daniel in real life
Happy Sunday
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Why not start a Facebook group? It works really well.
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!!
https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
Hi Christian,
Thanks for your reply—it’s really flattering!
Yes, the route planning is pretty detailed, with one or more possible itineraries prepared. That doesn’t mean we always stick to the plan, but the prep already gets us in the mood and lets us start traveling before the actual trip.
I’ve added a few more details on my site about route planners because I realized I hadn’t mentioned them, even though I use them a lot. My explanations are pretty brief—you really need to try the tools to get the hang of them. I use Bikemap and Openrunner, but there are plenty of others I haven’t tested. For route planners, gear, and GPS apps, check it out here.
It’s too bad that health issue is keeping you from joining us. We would’ve loved to have our group grow. I looked at your previous contributions—I also live pretty healthily, no tobacco or alcohol, and I thought I wouldn’t have to deal with this kind of problem. But I see that’s not the case, and it can happen to anyone out of the blue. Cold weather is only a minor risk for me because I’m wary of it and avoid it (which explains why I choose certain countries for winter trips). Still, sometimes you’re "forced" to go out in freezing temps. Now that I know the risks, I’ll avoid strenuous activity in those conditions.
Wishing you a speedy recovery and happy travels!
Jean Marie
Thanks for your reply—it’s really flattering!
Yes, the route planning is pretty detailed, with one or more possible itineraries prepared. That doesn’t mean we always stick to the plan, but the prep already gets us in the mood and lets us start traveling before the actual trip.
I’ve added a few more details on my site about route planners because I realized I hadn’t mentioned them, even though I use them a lot. My explanations are pretty brief—you really need to try the tools to get the hang of them. I use Bikemap and Openrunner, but there are plenty of others I haven’t tested. For route planners, gear, and GPS apps, check it out here.
It’s too bad that health issue is keeping you from joining us. We would’ve loved to have our group grow. I looked at your previous contributions—I also live pretty healthily, no tobacco or alcohol, and I thought I wouldn’t have to deal with this kind of problem. But I see that’s not the case, and it can happen to anyone out of the blue. Cold weather is only a minor risk for me because I’m wary of it and avoid it (which explains why I choose certain countries for winter trips). Still, sometimes you’re "forced" to go out in freezing temps. Now that I know the risks, I’ll avoid strenuous activity in those conditions.
Wishing you a speedy recovery and happy travels!
Jean Marie
I was 200% reluctant to sign up for Facebooc.
I have a friend who left for a big cycling adventure in Africa,
and he posts about his journey every day on Facebooc.
Despite all my reservations, I signed up a year ago,
and I don’t regret it—I haven’t had any "weird stuff" happen, everything’s fine.
I even created my own page, and everything’s going well there too—nothing to complain about…
Shows you shouldn’t hesitate to change your mind.
If there’s ever a "slip-up," I won’t hesitate to unsubscribe.
So I don’t see why there should be any exclusions. But if you’ve got another idea, it’d be interesting to hear it.
So I don’t see why there should be any exclusions. But if you’ve got another idea, it’d be interesting to hear it.
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!!
https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
No opinion on Facebook or I’m not on it.
Simply because there are countries where it’s inaccessible. Like western Sichuan.
Sorry, but I don’t have any other ideas...
After all, aren’t we doing great here? 😏
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!!
https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
Hi everyone, I’m new to the forum. I found this discussion really inspiring, and I hope we all keep enjoying cycling for many years to come.
62 = for the Pas-de-Calais or 62 years old?? 😏
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!!
https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
In September 2016, I was 79 and my wife was 78. We went cycling in Austria with a group where most could have been our kids. Some of the hills were tough to climb, but we climbed them. I’ve had a hip replacement for 14 years and never think about it. Just so you know, when we were young, we weren’t exactly sporty—we’re not ex-champions, just ex-not-very-good who’ve always kept active... you should never stop cycling, that’s the secret. And if pedaling gets tough sometimes, just remind yourself you’re better off on your bike than in a cardiologist’s waiting room. When I can’t pedal anymore, I’ll let you know—but that’s not happening anytime soon...
Robert
Hi Jean Marie,
Soon you’ll be off! Well deserved, and after all that prep you must be excited? I’m pretty impressed seeing the three of you head out. We’ve been traveling as a couple for years. We tried a trip with two other couples in the Spanish mountains, and to stick to the thread’s topic—one couple was over 70… best forgotten!
I haven’t looked at your route in detail, but it seems there are several entry points into Thailand. I’m sure you’ve checked the visa exemption rules. One thing you might already know: the two-month Thai tourist visa is free until the end of February.
By the way, we might cross paths—we’re leaving on January 12th for Saigon, then Cambodia (Phnom Penh National Park) to take the Discovery Mekong Trail up to southern Laos, and maybe back to Bangkok via Vientiane.
Quick question: how does the trike handle on dirt tracks?
Okay, I’ll stop polluting the thread now.
I haven’t looked at your route in detail, but it seems there are several entry points into Thailand. I’m sure you’ve checked the visa exemption rules. One thing you might already know: the two-month Thai tourist visa is free until the end of February.
By the way, we might cross paths—we’re leaving on January 12th for Saigon, then Cambodia (Phnom Penh National Park) to take the Discovery Mekong Trail up to southern Laos, and maybe back to Bangkok via Vientiane.
Quick question: how does the trike handle on dirt tracks?
Okay, I’ll stop polluting the thread now.
Hi Catherine and Gabriel,
We’re right in the middle of preparations for our departure on January 4th.
So far, we haven’t had any issues with the group. I guess it helps that we’re all the same age, have known each other since childhood, and cycled together until we were about 25.
We got our Thai visa for free in Lyon on December 12th. We’ll be entering Thailand two more times after that, but each stay will be under the 30-day visa exemption for French travelers.
The trike handles well on fairly wide and not-too-rough tracks. If we have to carry it, though, things get trickier—which is why we’ve decided to go with mountain bikes this year.
It’s definitely possible we’ll cross paths this year and get to meet. If that happens, we’d be happy to! I’ll send you more details about our route "planning" in a private message.
Here’s the site for 2017: http://cyclotourismetranquille.e-monsite.com/pages/voyage-2017/carte-google-du-projet-d-itineraire.html
Hope to see you soon, maybe in Cambodia or Laos!
Jean Marie
We’re right in the middle of preparations for our departure on January 4th.
So far, we haven’t had any issues with the group. I guess it helps that we’re all the same age, have known each other since childhood, and cycled together until we were about 25.
We got our Thai visa for free in Lyon on December 12th. We’ll be entering Thailand two more times after that, but each stay will be under the 30-day visa exemption for French travelers.
The trike handles well on fairly wide and not-too-rough tracks. If we have to carry it, though, things get trickier—which is why we’ve decided to go with mountain bikes this year.
It’s definitely possible we’ll cross paths this year and get to meet. If that happens, we’d be happy to! I’ll send you more details about our route "planning" in a private message.
Here’s the site for 2017: http://cyclotourismetranquille.e-monsite.com/pages/voyage-2017/carte-google-du-projet-d-itineraire.html
Hope to see you soon, maybe in Cambodia or Laos!
Jean Marie
Hi Jean-Marie, I followed a good chunk of the spots you marked on that gorgeous “interactive” map during my own trips between Thailand and Laos.
In particular, you’ve planned the 120 km dirt track west of the Mekong that ends in Luang Prabang—stunning, with tons of elevation gain. The stretch starting from Luang Prabang along the left bank of the Mekong is also really pretty once you’re about fifteen klicks outside town. I also rode your route to Vientiane, just in the opposite direction. The section south of Vientiane in Laos was another highlight I covered on a different trip—you can check out the full trip reports I posted on VF. But the absolute highlight was the February–March 2016 ride that partly overlapped your northern Laos route. I only documented the off-road segments:
voyageforum.com/...ost=7452444;#7452444
All that to get to my question: how do you actually make a slick interactive map like the one showing your route? Luc
voyageforum.com/...ost=7452444;#7452444
All that to get to my question: how do you actually make a slick interactive map like the one showing your route? Luc
Hi Luc,
Thanks for the link, but I’d already gone through your trip report—it actually helped shape our route and bike choices for this 2017 ride.
We’re leaving on Wednesday, January 4, so I had to get the upcoming Google map ready. While I was at it, I put together a quick tutorial. It might not answer every question you have, but it walks through the steps for creating a Google map. I’m pretty sure I’ll use it next time too, since the beginning—up to “create a map”—isn’t exactly intuitive, and I always have to fumble through it (which, at twice a year, is about par for the course).
You can view and download the little PDF tutorial here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1HF1AWrBfCHd0phQ2VLeTRBNXc
Jean Marie
Thanks for the link, but I’d already gone through your trip report—it actually helped shape our route and bike choices for this 2017 ride.
We’re leaving on Wednesday, January 4, so I had to get the upcoming Google map ready. While I was at it, I put together a quick tutorial. It might not answer every question you have, but it walks through the steps for creating a Google map. I’m pretty sure I’ll use it next time too, since the beginning—up to “create a map”—isn’t exactly intuitive, and I always have to fumble through it (which, at twice a year, is about par for the course).
You can view and download the little PDF tutorial here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1HF1AWrBfCHd0phQ2VLeTRBNXc
Jean Marie
Hi Jean Marie,
Best wishes (it’s that time of year!) for your trip... I’ll be thinking of you when I’m pedaling—just to ease your own pedaling! 🙂
How lucky to set off with a team that’s been together since the "shorts" days, plus a mechanic’s skills (I saw the racks)—in short, everything to avoid nasty surprises.
Safe travels! I’ll definitely follow your blog (I get the feeling you’re the group’s IT guy).
Christian
Hi Christian,
True. Mechanically, we manage pretty well, but that doesn’t rule out an irreparable breakdown without the right tools. Yes, I’m the one who writes the site and records the routes. Wishing you a happy 2017 too.
Jean Marie
True. Mechanically, we manage pretty well, but that doesn’t rule out an irreparable breakdown without the right tools. Yes, I’m the one who writes the site and records the routes. Wishing you a happy 2017 too.
Jean Marie
Hi Jean-Marie, I just came across your post. Wishing you a great trip—it’s awesome! Personally, I cycled through Vietnam in 2012 and Cambodia in 2013. After recovering from anemia, I stopped, but I’m ready to hit the road again. Anyway, congrats and safe travels! I’m from Montbrison and a pigeon fancier—I often go to Neulise to train my homing pigeons. Hope to meet you someday. I’m in my 72nd year, and all’s well. I’ll be following your blog.
André
Hello, I read that you're heading to Vietnam, Cambodia, then Thailand around January 12th. While I’m not bringing my bike this time, I’m also leaving for Vietnam around those dates—maybe Cambodia and Thailand too, using "transport and youth hostel/guesthouse" mode. I’d love to know if you’ve already considered the "possible risks and challenges" of finding accommodations and other transport during Tết? Unless you’re camping and cycling the whole route, of course—in that case, you’re less dependent on closed or fully booked infrastructure.
Hi Jean-Marie, thanks for the link—I’ll give it a try. I’m not exactly a tech whiz, but apart from the middle of the Gobi Desert, I’ve never really felt out of my depth, even in the Atacama with just a 1:500,000 or even 1:1,000,000 scale map. I’ve even got to say that often when you take a wrong turn, that’s when you make the best discoveries, so let’s protect the right to get lost .
Anyway, safe travels on the trails of Southeast Asia, and don’t forget that survival on Laotian roads comes down to knowing *kin kao* or *rao* (eat rice) and *kin feû* (eat soup).
Luc
Anyway, safe travels on the trails of Southeast Asia, and don’t forget that survival on Laotian roads comes down to knowing *kin kao* or *rao* (eat rice) and *kin feû* (eat soup).
Luc
To answer the original question: “bike travel—how old is too old?” I’d say this morning: without panniers, up to 105 years old! ;)
The guy’s an alien—his heart’s half his age.
But it gives hope to youngsters like us!
Daniel
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Hi Christian, without panniers I’ve had two experiences with men aged 83.
The first time we were doing a ride with panniers around the Causses area. We stopped under the Millau Viaduct to marvel at the pier, which is taller than the Eiffel Tower. A cyclist riding at a good pace arrived, stopped, and we chatted. He was 83 and still did 80 to 100 km several times a week. We set off together, he disappeared into the distance, and I wasn’t even 60 yet with good legs!!!
Another time, my bike shop organized a small race near Mont Thou in the Saône Valley, north of Lyon. I signed up, thinking I had good legs—I’d just come back from a 3.5-month trip across South America. I got overtaken on a climb and left behind by an 83-year-old competitor. There’s hope, though don’t expect to break the brand-new hour record of 22.580 km (if I remember right) for the over-105s
Luc
And yet you don’t come off as an amateur at all!!! And on the occasion of the second “challenge” you mentioned, you’d “doped up on altitude” in South America...
I learned a lesson from the old-timer: never stop! I’ve been part of this conversation for a while now, but I only recently discovered your travels, and I’ve only had a quick look (so far) at your stories—hats off to you!
Christian
Hi,
In the same vein, a few years ago I was in northern Laos (Luang Nam Tha), a really rugged area, and at a little roadside eatery where I was having dinner, the waitress came by with two dishes while my table neighbors—a senior couple—had already been served. I thought at the time that the dish was for us, but it wasn’t.
The New Zealand couple, our neighbors aged 82 and 83, had come from Thailand via the north through Chiang Rai and were heading to Hanoi. They hadn’t had a proper meal in two days, which explained their appetite. They stayed an extra few days in the area to "recharge."
I ran into them again a week later in Luang Prabang, but by then it was a piece of cake for them since it was mostly downhill.
Encounters like this inspire a lot of respect and humility. Of course, this couple had been doing long-distance hiking for a long time and hadn’t started in their sixties.
In the same vein, a few years ago I was in northern Laos (Luang Nam Tha), a really rugged area, and at a little roadside eatery where I was having dinner, the waitress came by with two dishes while my table neighbors—a senior couple—had already been served. I thought at the time that the dish was for us, but it wasn’t.
The New Zealand couple, our neighbors aged 82 and 83, had come from Thailand via the north through Chiang Rai and were heading to Hanoi. They hadn’t had a proper meal in two days, which explained their appetite. They stayed an extra few days in the area to "recharge."
I ran into them again a week later in Luang Prabang, but by then it was a piece of cake for them since it was mostly downhill.
Encounters like this inspire a lot of respect and humility. Of course, this couple had been doing long-distance hiking for a long time and hadn’t started in their sixties.
Hi Claude,
62 for the Pas-de-Calais, and 59 this year 🙂… just a youngster.
62 for the Pas-de-Calais, and 59 this year 🙂… just a youngster.
And a "big" athlete (avatar). Well done!
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!!
https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
Crocomalo still has hope! My last trip (home-Mediterranean-Atlantic-Loire-Rhône-Rhine Canal-Rhine-Danube-Black Sea) should’ve been called the "trip of despair"! But I’m getting ready to hit the road again!
Happy cycling,
www.frannycyclo.com
Françoise
www.frannycyclo.com
Hi Françoise... thanks for your encouragement! I took a look at your site and saw that you posted your June 6, 2016, day just two days ago!... when do you reach the Black Sea? 😉
Given what I know about your health issues, I can only tip my hat and cheer you on for your next adventures.
Christian
Good evening Françoise,
We're still here, and we're still getting on the bike!
We've got another 20 to 25 years of riding ahead to beat the old-timer's record.
I haven't decided yet for this year—I've got a few projects in the works.
Happy 2017 plans!
Daniel
Daniel
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Bonjour,
Je prévois de faire la partie hollandaise de l'Eurovélo 19, de Maastricht à Rotterdam.
Comme c'est trop compliqué d'amener mon vélo en train, je cherche à louer un vélo sur place.
Je suis preneuse de conseils ou d'adresses de loueurs de vélos, j'ai du mal à en trouver même à Rotterdam.
L'idée serait de le louer à Rotterdam, de partir avec en train jusqu'à Maastricht, pour faire Maastricht/Rotterdam à vélo
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils ou suggestions.
Nath
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
