Ah, toi aussi tu as eu le même problème que moi : pas possible de réserver 2 nuits ! ?
Chez Lily ce sont des petits bateaux ? A quel prix ?
Merci Alex.
Salut,
Je suis en attente de transfert vers l'aéroport depuis Victoria falls pour me retrouver demain matin à Paris, de retour de voyage.
Au water lily, ce sont de petits bateaux, beaucoup plus sympa quer les gros catamarans. On peut se faufiler n'importe où.
Le prix donné précédemment est le bon, la croisière dure de 15 h à 18h.
Pour notre part, nous étions 3, uniquement notre famille dans le bateau qui compte 8 places grosso modo.
à @
FreD.
Nous voilà rentrés depuis 2 heures ! Entiers… Après quelques émotions quand même, surtout dans la flotte vers la Kwai River au Nord de North Gate. Un vrai labyrinthe de pistes inondées de lacs et de trous d'eau. 4h pour 20 km. Jusqu'à plus de 1m de flotte à franchir par endroit. J'étais bien content d'avoir upgradé chez Asco pour un Hilux réhaussé +10 cm et snorkel. Ça m'a permis d'ouvrir la route plus sereinement aux 2 autres véhicules de mes amis qui étaient d'origine et de trouver les meilleurs passages sans trop risquer la noyade mécanique.
J'ai beaucoup beaucoup à lire, à écrire, de photos à trier. Et le boulot qui reprend demain…
😛🤪😛🤪😛🤪
Bonjour Pierre,
Merci bcp pour ce petit coucou !
Suis passée en vitesse voir les nouvelles sur l'ordi : suis contente de t' y retrouver et de savoir que finalement tout baigne... 😉
Bonne reprise demain, courage...pense à tes prochaines vacances ! 😛 🙂 😄 😏
C'est gentil d'être revenu nous faire un petit signe !
A bientôt...
Une parmi les milliers de visiteurs pour répondre au post de Francky4: Vous partez en Afrique Australe?
Nous partons à 5, meme famille ,3 générations de 31 à 83 ans.
Quand ? le 25 octobre , pour 3 semaines
Ou ? La Namibie
Comment ? 4x4 avec tente au sol et sur le toit, peut-etre des lodges s'il fait trop chaud, pour l'air conditionné.
Pourquoi ? pour les 60 ans du beauf qui voulait revoir l'Afrique, les animaux, depuis qu'il était passé sur ce continent lors de son service militaire dans la marine.
On m'a dit le Kenia , j'ai dit bof trop touristique! pourquoi pas la Namibie ?
On m'a dit: alors prépare.
Je suis dessus , à lire tous vos récits tous vos commentaires depuis septembre 2009.J'attends les retours de ceux qui partent cet été. Je prends des notes de toutes les bonnes infos dispensées sur le site par vous tous.
J'en profite pour une question : quel prix pour le taxi de l'aeroport à Windhoek ville? La voiture n'est prise que le lendemain.
Un itinéraire prévu , mais rien de définitif. Nous irons suivant notre rythme, nos envies , nos rencontres. Laisser une part d'improvisation.Retour obligatoire par Chobe et les chutes Victoria.
Merci pour ton message malgrè la fatigue... et content que tu sois rentré vivant de ton périple;-)
Moi, je pars jeudi. Tes infos pour kwai ne sont pas trés réjouissantes d'autant que je n'ai pas le Hilux rehaussé...
A+
Je ne connais pas le prix du taxi à l'aéroport de Windhoek.
Mais je sais qu'il y a des navettes jusqu'au centre ville.
Durand Shuttle Services (35 Euros par pers). Tu peux surement aussi t'arranger avec ton loueur de voiture pour qu'il vienne te chercher.
La jonction entre la nouvelle "transit road" et North Gate se fait puisqu'on l'a faite le 22 juillet, mais nous étions 3 véhicules. J'avoue qu'à une seule voiture, snorkel ou pas, je n'aurais même pas essayé, mais plutôt fait le (long) détour par Mababe et son nouveau pont et South Gate.
Pour résumer, avant les photos qui vont venir : peu après avoir quitté la transit road, la piste principale se remplit d'eau sans qu'on en voit le bout. Je me suis engagé (plus d'1 m de profondeur) pour finir par ressortir sans souci (mais cœur battant !). Un des 2 4x4 sans snorkel fait un essai de contournement hors piste : la surface semblait solide, mais elle cède : enlisement jusqu'au chassis. Un coup de sangle et ça repart. Finalement, après plusieurs passages avec la voiture équipée pour chercher les endroits les moins profonds, tout le monde est passé avec la sangle prête fixée à l'avant au cas où.
Un peu plus loin, la piste se transforme de nouveau en rivière. Je m'engage encore, mais au bout, c'est un véritable lac. Demi-tour. Un véhicule croisé plus tôt nous avait conseiller de passer toujours le plus à gauche possible. Effectivement, en s'engageant sur une piste secondaire à gauche, le bras d'eau devient franchissable, environ 80 cm.
Après quelques tours et détours mais sans difficulté majeure, on arrive face à un très grand trou d'eau juste avant le village de Kwaï. De l'autre côté, des locaux sur un vieux Land Rover nous disent de passer d'abord à gauche, puis de bifurquer vers le centre entre les 2 piquets qui marquent le passage "normal" quand il n'y a pas tant d'eau. Un de nous sonde à pied, ça semble faisable, mais il ne va pas au-delà des piquets. Je m'engage… Ce que les gars avaient "oublié" de nous dire, c'est qu'il y avait une marche et un trou juste après les piquets. Le 4x4 plonge, l'eau monte jusqu'au pare-brise mais ça passe ! Les mecs applaudissent, ils sont morts de rire.
Pas question de tenter le passage sans snorkel… dommage, ensuite on est plus qu'à 3 km de bonne piste du camp alors que refaire le tour par South Gate représenterait maintenant quasi une journée de route !
Un collègue envisage un bricolage à base de chambre à air fixée sur l'entrée d'air pour la rehausser. Les locaux nous conseillent de carrément la boucher (mais comment le moteur pourrait-il tourner ? Et s'il cale au milieu faute d'air ? Tout le monde nous dit qu'il n'y a pas d'autre passage… Que faire ?
Tout-à-coup, un véhicule arrive en face, tourne sur une piste secondaire… et par magie réapparaît sur notre rive quelques minutes plus tard. Par où est-il passé ? Les locaux, nous disent, "bad, bad, very muddy!", mais je vais voir… Et en fait le passage est là ! Après 10 m de boue, un gué facile, 80 cm de profondeur maxi !
Et nous voilà à North Gate après 20 km en 4 h !
Entre North Gate et Xakanaxa, un seul gué sans difficulté. Ensuite, on a essayé d'aller vers Dead Tree Island. Impossible ! De l'eau partout, les pistes sont des rivières ou des étangs.
NB. C'est très beau, plein d'animaux, surtout beaucoup d'éléphants. Et hmmmm, la famille de guépards. 😉
Mon dieu, mon dieu, mon dieu... tu me fous les pounchs!
Merci pour ce récit génial, mais flipant! J'espère qu'il y aura un peu moins d'eau dans 3 semaines car ne n'ai ni snorkel, ni 4x4 rehaussé... juste quelques toiles de jute pour me désensabler...🤪
Je viens de Maun (audi Camp), puis une nuit à 3bridge, puis une nuit à kwai community camp, puis Savuti.
Je suis donc sensé faire ton fameux tronçon.🏴☠️
Mais je n'ai pas compris où se trouvait exactement ce passage délicat.
"La jonction entre la nouvelle "transit road" et North Gate"
Je ne pense pas que l'eau puisse baisser beaucoup rapidement. Fin juillet, ça montait toujours… Par exemple 30 cm annoncés dans le Savuti Channel juste à côté de Savuti, finalement, plutôt 40 ou 50… Tu pars quand ?
Je joins une carte de la zone en question… Ce que j'ai mis en rouge, c'est la route "théorique". Je peux te faire parvenir ma trace GPS si tu me laisse quelques jours pour dépatouiller tout ça. Envoie-moi une adresse mail par mp si tu veux.
J'avoue qu'après l'avoir fait, je n'essaierais toujours pas seul avec un 4x4 non spécialement équipé. Peut-être peux-tu trouver des compagnons de route dans les camps ?
La piste entre 3rd Bridge et Xakanaka ne me paraît pas évidente non plus, On a fait North Gate / Xakanaxa sans souci, mais au Sud de Xakanaxa, il y a encore de l'eau partout, ça doit quand même être faisable en serrant le plus possible vers l'Est.
La route directe South Gate / 3rd Bridge est coupée au niveau de Xini Lagoon (enfin c'est ce qu'on nous a dit, on ne l'a pas testée)
La solution (oui, il y en a une même si elle fait perdre du temps) c'est de passer systématiquement par South Gate. La route North Gate / South Gate est bonne, il faut juste faire attention aux éléphants.
Attentions aux conseils donnés sur place. Ceux des guides et des autres touristes semblent globalement OK, mais les gars aux gates ne savent rien et j'ai l'impression que les locaux s'amusent bien à nos dépends…
Coucou Pimprenell,
Moi aussi je commence à me dire que ça arrive, ça arrive un peu plus vite chaque jour...
As-tu mis tes étapes (et dates) lors d'une discussion ?
Je ne me souviens que de WaterLily où tu passes le 11septembre ! 😉
Ce soir Eric loge à Kaziikini en bordure de South Gate et traverse Moremi les 7 jours suivants.
Il aura des nouvelles encore plus fraîches car j'espère que la décrue aura commencé d'ici là....
Nous, nous y serons à partir du 25 septembre...
A bientôt ! ? 😉
😉
J'ai fait cette photo en pensant à toi, Michelle. Je ne savais pas qu'Éric y passait. 🙂
Je pense qu'il va trouver encore beaucoup d'eau dans les jours qui viennent. On est au pic de l'inondation…
Courage à toutes les deux, ça approche. J'aimerais mieux être à votre place qu'à la mienne maintenant…
C'est gentil, ça !
Je passerai la photo à Eric ! 🙂🙂
"On est au pic de l'inondation… "
C'est une excellente nouvelle : ça veut donc dire que le niveau va commencer à baisser doucement, isn't it !
"J'aimerais mieux être à votre place qu'à la mienne maintenant…"
Mais non, n'y pense pas, pense à tes potes de VF que tu as retrouvés 😉 et à tous tes souvenirs qui ne vont plus te quitter : quel capital ! Mieux qu'un magot, non ? ! ! 😉
Tu as fait le survol du delta à Maun ?
Oui, c'est très spectaculaire. Dommage seulement que ça fasse tant de bruit et que l'on passe si vite. On aurait envie de s'arrêter comme on le fait en voiture, mais en avion… Difficile !
Un truc : le pilote étant à gauche, il voit les animaux à gauche et tourne à gauche pour les observer, donc quand tu es à droite du pilote, ce qui était mon cas, et bien tu en vois beaucoup, beaucoup moins.
(Le pape de VF...le 13ème ! mais j'imagine que cela fait peut-être référence à l'arrondissement où tu habites !🙂)
Merci pour cette info du bout du monde ...et bienvenue de retour sur terre ! 😇
Pierre est dans le même cas que toi , vous pourrez donc vous consoler mutuellement et vous raconter vos aventures merveilleuses et mouvementées ! 😉
Merci pour cette info du bout du monde ...et bienvenue de retour sur terre ! 😇
Pierre est dans le même cas que toi , vous pourrez donc vous consoler mutuellement et vous raconter vos aventures merveilleuses et mouvementées ! 😉
De retour oui. On a adoré notre aventure Namibo-Bostawano-Zimbabweene même si elle était bien moins mouvementée que celle de Pierre.
Par contre, faudra pas qu'il compte sur moi pour le consoler, je ne suis pas en état 😛.
des énormes coups de coeur, quelques coups de gueule. Assurément, l'Afrique australe vaut d'être vue et probablement revue mais... y'a tant de choses à voir.
ça c'est une chouette info, Pierre ! 😎
La personne à côté du pilote est en 2ème position de préférence donc ? 😉
mimosina avait mis un message à ce sujet mais je n'y avais pas trop prêté attention, c'était en 2008 !
Je l'ai retrouvé : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=1909330;#1909330
Le tableau de bord d'un avion de tourisme montant très très haut, on ne voit quasiment rien devant, mais seulement par la vitre latérale. Le pilote suivant ce qu'il voit par sa vitre latérale à lui, la place du "co-pilote" est pour moi définitivement la plus mauvaise pour l'observation des animaux (mais pas des paysages !).
Coucou Pimprenell,
Moi aussi je commence à me dire que ça arrive, ça arrive un peu plus vite chaque jour...
As-tu mis tes étapes (et dates) lors d'une discussion ?
Je ne me souviens que de WaterLily où tu passes le 11septembre ! 😉
Ce soir Eric loge à Kaziikini en bordure de South Gate et traverse Moremi les 7 jours suivants.
Il aura des nouvelles encore plus fraîches car j'espère que la décrue aura commencé d'ici là....
Nous, nous y serons à partir du 25 septembre...
A bientôt ! ? 😉
Décidemment tu es partout et tu notes tout 😉
en effet je passe au Waterlily (je te fais confiance sur la date, je n'ai pas mon carnet de route sous les yeux 😎)
Kaziikini ?! c'est un camping dans la réserve de Moremi çà ?!
ah oui tu pars un mois apres mois en gros donc en effet, je pourrai te donner des nouvelles plus fraiches (plus sèches ou plus mouillées) à mon retour ! 😊
mes étapes en gros, une belle boucle entre la Namibie et le Botwana :
Windhoek
Fish river Canyon
Aus
Sesriem
Ganzi
Maun
Moremi
Savuti
Chobe
Kasane
Bande de Caprivi
Windhoek
Bien sur je ferai un carnet de route plus détaillé à mon retour 😏
Coucou !
"tu notes tout"
Depuis novembre 2005 pour notre 1er voyage en 2006 j'ai préparé des petits dossiers où je case ce qui peux m'intéresser , j'ai donc une longue "expérience" 😛 🙂 mais je t'avoue que parfois je m'emmêle les pinceaux ! 🙂
"en effet, je pourrai te donner des nouvelles plus fraiches (plus sèches ou plus mouillées) à mon retour !"
Ah ben non! Puisque nous partons le 10 septembre et que je ne pense pas aller sur un PC en voyage (ça va bien comme ça ici ! 😊 🙂)
Je te demandais cela juste pour te souhaiter un très bon voyage Pimprenell, voilà qui est fait un peu à l'avance ! 😎
Prends quand même tes palmes pour le Botswana...😛 🙂
On dirait bien que c'est exactement ce que je recherche. Ca m'a l'air déja plus jouable.😎
Je vais opter pour cet itinéraire.
Décidément, je te ferais bien une tite place dans mon sac.
Merci encore
J'avais zappé le retour de FredXIII…
Alors, c'était bien ?
Bon courage pour la reprise. Pour moi, c'est dur. 😛
Salut Pierre,
Ben oui... c'était bien.
On a suivi grosso modo tes traces faites lors du premier voyage, ayant utilisé pour cetrte première le même opérateur que toi. 😏.
au fûr et à mesure que les jours passent, les souvenirs décantent et m'enchantent. S'il y a des endroits où je ne retournerai pas, il y en a d'autres qui mériteront un retour ou une découverte plus approfondie comme le Bostwana par exemple qui nous a laissé sur notre faim.
Par contre, quand je lis tes aventures, je suis plus perplexe sur mes capacités routières qui se sont limitées au sable de Sossuvlei et à quelques passages délicat à Warmquelle, Epupa falls et quelques uns que j'oublie ce matin.😏.
Pour l'instant le retour à la réalité est violent. La vie parisienne et un peu plus de 5000 € piratés sur ma CB à Windhoek, ça calme...😕.
@+
FreD
La vie parisienne… le retour au quotidien, dur, mais normal.
Le piratage de ta carte, c'est une autre histoire ! Je suis désolé pour toi. Peux-tu nous en dire plus pour que d'autres voyageurs puissent peut-être éviter ce genre d'ennui ?
Normalement, ça devrait s'arranger, en tout cas, je te le souhaite sincèrement.
Du coup, je viens de consulter mon compte (une fois de plus) : pas de souci pour l'instant, je croise les doigts.
Nous aussi avions très envie de creuser le Botswana après notre 1er voyage. Et encore cette année nous sommes passés trop vite. Je rêve d'une immersion dans Moremi, vers Xakanaxa et 3rd Bridge. Prendre le temps plusieurs jours plutôt que d'être contraints par un itinéraire…
La conduite… C'est en forgeant qu'on devient forgeron ! Nous avons passé quelques jours au Kaokoland (Puros, Orupembe, Marienfluss et retour) avec un autre Fred et sa famille rencontrés sur VF. Il n'avait aucune expérience de conduite 4x4 au départ et il était plutôt stressé, à la fin, ça allait beaucoup mieux. Surtout dans le sable.
Pour les franchissements de gués, c'est plutôt une question d'évaluation de la profondeur en fonction de l'entrée d'air du moteur que de technique de conduite. Un fois lancé en 1ère ou 2ème courtes, tous les différentiels possibles bloqués, il n'y a plus qu'à avancer régulièrement (éventuellement en serrant les dents ou autre chose).
😉
Récit illustré en cours de préparation, mais les soirées sont courtes, j'ai pris l'habitude de me coucher tôt là-bas. 😄
Coucou !
"tu notes tout"
Depuis novembre 2005 pour notre 1er voyage en 2006 j'ai préparé des petits dossiers où je case ce qui peux m'intéresser , j'ai donc une longue "expérience" 😛 🙂 mais je t'avoue que parfois je m'emmêle les pinceaux ! 🙂
"en effet, je pourrai te donner des nouvelles plus fraiches (plus sèches ou plus mouillées) à mon retour !"
Ah ben non! Puisque nous partons le 10 septembre et que je ne pense pas aller sur un PC en voyage (ça va bien comme ça ici ! 😊 🙂)
Je te demandais cela juste pour te souhaiter un très bon voyage Pimprenell, voilà qui est fait un peu à l'avance ! 😎
Prends quand même tes palmes pour le Botswana...😛 🙂
çà ne m'étonne pas que tu t'emmeles parfois ! ou plutot çà me rassure 😊 😛
ah oki, j'ai rien suivi tu vois, tu pars donc une semaine avant que je revienne.. on va se croiser ! 😇
Je te souhaite également un FABULEUX voyage !!! et je croise les doigts pour qu'on n'est pas besoin de plonger dans la gadoue lol 😄
La vie parisienne et un peu plus de 5000 € piratés sur ma CB à Windhoek, ça calme...😕.
@+
FreD
AIE AIE AIE ! comment c'est possible çà ?! 🤪
Comment c'est possible la vie parisienne ou le piratage de ma CB?😛
La vie parisienne tu connais.
Le piratage de la CB c'est facile aussi. Empreinte prise chez le loueur du 4x4, chez l'opérateur de mon voyage. Ensuite, des achats effectués par-ci et par-là avec la carte suffisent pour un type exercé à prendre en quelques instants les 16 chiffres de la carte et les 3 chiffres au dos "assurant" la sécurité des achats par internet.
Je ne donnerai pas les noms des commerçants chez qui j'ai fait des achats, je ne veux pas lancer des accusations en l'air.
De toutes façons, la vigilance doit être au rendez-vous où que l'on aille. Mon manque de chance et le gros montant proviennent du fait que je n'ai pas pu me connecter à internet durant plus de 2 semaines et que les escrocs ont profité de ce moment.
J'ai rendez-vous avec ma banque samedi, en principe ce genre de problème s'arrange assez bien, les banques connaisssent les limites du sytème.🤪
Coucou à tous et bises aux autres comme dit qq'un...
J espère que tes soucis vont se résoudre. Tiens nous au courant des démarches à suivre.
Eh oui je suis là... ! de retour parmi vous.
Superbe voyage sur le quel je reviendrai plus tard en détail. Le temps d'atterrir dans ce merveilleux ciel parisien surplombé de nuages, de pluie et de températures dignes de la saison...
Moi c'est mon loueur de 4x4 WAGO WAGO (tiens pour le moteur de recherche : wagowago, wago wago, wago-wago, safariskenya.com, budgetcarhirekenya.com, carhire-kenya.com, africancenter.eu) il veut de la pub : il va en avoir...
Il a débité ma carte bleue de 2400 euros sans prévenir, pour un 4x4 qui a posé des soucis (sans gravité). J attends le remboursement.
Mimi67 avait utilisé ses services, peut être vous a t elle laissé un mot...
A suivre, je vous raconterai...
Une pensée pour Vincent qui rentre aujourd'hui je crois, et pour Eric et Carole qui sont en train de chercher le fond de la rivière Khwaï...
Et pour tous les autres avec qui nous allons bientôt voyagé par procuration...
Bises
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F
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Francky est revenu !!!
Comme temps pour le retour, on ne peut pas imaginer pire…
Bon courage pour la reprise ! Heureusement il y a les copains VF pour rester dans l'ambiance.
Bienvenue dans la vraie vie 😛🏴☠️.
Mes problème de CB vont s'arranger. Ca se passe en 2 temps:
1 - Porter plainte à la police ou la gendarmerie (ça c'est juste pour les statistiques, personne ne va descendre à Windhoek enquêter) et expliquer au fonctionnaire où se trouve la Namibie. "La quoi? La nami quoi? C'est où ça?)
2 - prendre rendez-vous à la banque avec copie des relevés et dertifier par courrier qu'il y a un certain nombre d'opérations frauduleuses pour tel montant (dans mon cas 8 opérations pour 5600€, une paille)
3 - attendre le remboursement des sommes (j'en suis là 😇)
Bonjour Fred,
Desole pour la carte, mince alors. Ca fait mal.
Mmmm, desole de retourner le couteau dans la plaie, mais pour tout ceux qui (re)partiront en Namibie, est-il possible d'avoir la liste des type de commercants? Il ne s'agit pas de montrer du doigt, simplement, savoir s'il y a des recoupement possible, par categorie. Par exemple, paiment du plein d'essence par carte, chez un commercant individuel (restau, B&B) ou super marche ?
Tu ne sembles pas etre un debutant, donc le fait que tu te sois fait avoir comme ca, n'est plutot pas une bonne nouvelle.
D'avance merci.
Bonne chance,
Alex
Une pensée pour Vincent qui rentre aujourd'hui je crois,
Bonjour tout le monde 🙂
et oui Francky, dur dur le retour à la réalité après 3 semaines de rêve absolu 😎
Content de voir que tout s'est bien passé pour toi
Fred, désolé pour toi. J'espère que cette mésaventure ne viendra pas gâcher ton souvenir de Namibie.
Je vais de ce pas vérifier mes comptes...
mais pour tout ceux qui (re)partiront en Namibie, est-il possible d'avoir la liste des type de commercants? Il ne s'agit pas de montrer du doigt, simplement, savoir s'il y a des recoupement possible, par categorie. Par exemple, paiment du plein d'essence par carte, chez un commercant individuel (restau, B&B) ou super marche ?
difficiles de balancer des noms, je n'y tiens pas vraiment. Je crois plus que c'est l'effet pas de chance.
Ca pourrait être un employé indélicat d'un loueur, d'un prestataire ou d'un supermarché, voire d'un restaurant.
Je vois que tu vas beaucoup, beaucoup mieux 😇 Les Blue Balls de Michelle ont encore frappé 😛 Cela prouve au moins que tu combats activement la déprime du retour !
Bon weekend,
Joss
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?