"Dès cet été, les routes menant aux différents villages seront équipés d’appareils qui compteront le nombre de visiteurs"
Et côté mer, ils peuvent facilement limiter le nombre de bateaux de croisière accostant par jour.
Une fois le nombre atteint, on ferme le robinet.
Il y a plein d'endroits dans le monde qui limitent déjà le nombre de visiteurs, avant toute chose pour protéger le patrimoine ou l'environnement. Dans le cas des 5 Terre, on prend également en considération ses habitants.
Suivant l'endroit, il y aura peut-être différents systèmes. Espérons qu'ils seront fiables car, pas de doute, il se trouvera toujours des petits malins pour essayer de les contourner !
Si on délivre des sortes de cartes d'entrée, il s'en trouvera sûrement pour essayer de le revendre ! Ailleurs, un bon billet permettra de débloquer le compteur ou bien de le faire tomber subitement en panne. Ou bien ce sera : "Je connais un petit chemin non surveillé qui...". A moins que des politiciens ne se laissent acheter pour réviser les quotas ou accorder des "autorisations exceptionnelles".
Cette question des limitations va se poser de plus en plus et promet des développements intéressants dans l'avenir ! 🙂
concernant les chemins d'accès aux 5 villages, ils sont déjà super limités. En plus il n'y a qu'un village où les touristes peuvent accéder par la route et laisser leur véhicule. Donc de ce côté là, le problème ne devrait pas trop se poser.
Pour le reste, c'est comme d'habitude, quand on instaure une nouvelle règle, il y en aura tjrs des malins qui réussiront à la contourner. Mais ce sera tjrs mieux que sans limitation du tout 😉
Décision qui ne semble pas être appliquée, je suis allée aux 5 terres 2 fois cette année, une fois en mai 12 jours, et une fois en juin 10 jours, aucun problème, aucune restriction, beaucoup de monde, c'est certain.Pas vu d'incivilité notoire ou quoique ce soit. Tout se passe très bien, mis à part les groupes de chinois qui veulent passer avant tout le monde.......
Le mieux serait de pouvoir demander l'autorisation gratuite d'accès au lieu en ligne sur le site du gouvernement. Plutôt que de se voir refouler.
A Tenerife cela existe déjà pour l'accès au sommet du Teide et heureusement car ce ne serait pas gerable sinon.
Est-ce que cela vous est déjà arrivé de ne pas vous sentir à votre place lors de visite ?
Pour notre part on est très porté sur l'écologie et par conséquent on essaye d'interférer le moins possible sur les lieux que nous visitons. On est bien conscient que le fait de prendre une voiture ou un avion pour visiter un lieu naturel impacte indéniablement ce lieu (route, pollution, des magasins se créent ...).
On avait vraiment été choqué de ce que l'on a vu dans les Rocheuses canadiennes avec Jasper et Banff que l'on s'est un peu mal sentis ... Même si on ne fait pas les activités que l'on juge trop impactentes (hélicoptère, rouler sur des glaciers ...) cela nous fait poser des questions !
J'ai mis les liens de nos 2 articles, car on a fait des paragraphes sur ce que l'on a vu. C'est vraiment les deux lieux qui nous ont marqués sur ce point durant notre voyage. Aux US il y a un vrai respect des espaces naturels contrairement au Canada.
Pierre
L'article disait "dès cet été", après c'est l'Italie donc il faut savoir être patient pour que ça se mette vraiment en place... 😏
@Yokora: oui, tu as raison, il faudrait prendre exemple sur les endroits où ça a déjà été mis en place avec succès, mais entre la théorie et la pratique... 😉
Apparemment, les journalistes du Guardian et de Libération ont raconté n'importe quoi puisque sur le site renseigné, il n'est pas question de limitation du nombre de touristes...
On peut du moins supposer que l'idée est dans l'air et que peut-être un jour, il sera nécessaire d'instaurer réellement une limitation !
Apparemment, les journalistes du Guardian et de Libération ont raconté n'importe quoi puisque sur le site renseigné, il n'est pas question de limitation du nombre de touristes...
Oh, des journaux mainstream tendance de gauche qui diffusent des fake news, comment est-ce possible ? 😮
N'avait-on pas dit que ces médias constituaient (presque) parole d'évangile et que seuls ceux d'un camp différent diffusaient (forcément) de fausses infos... 😏
Quoi qu'il en soit, il y aura tôt ou tard des limitations, la meilleure solution (et la plus inapplicable vu la mentalité moutonnière des gens !) serait de diversifier les lieux de visite, au lieu de voir bien trop de monde se concentrer sur les quelques mêmes lieux saturés à la mode du moment, et de plus presque tous en même temps (Cinq terres, côte croate...).
Les voyages à petit prix d'une souris en Europe (plus de 20.000 photos, des plans, conseils pratiques sur les transports, les formalités, les vols low cost, la location avec airbnb...)
Il y a toujours quelque chose qui me derange quand on commence à parler du tourisme de masse....quelque chose me fait dire que finalement nous sommes profondemment egoistes.
J'ai la chance de pouvoir décaler mes vacances, à septembre (je pourrais plus tard de mon coté mais ce n'est pas le cas de mon compagnon) parceque pas d'enfant, pas de contrainte professionnelle, c'est une chance et ce n'est pas celle de nombre d'entre nous.
Et nous en revenons à la sacro sainte période des vacances scolaires...en Europe les vacances tournent à peu près toutes à la même période, on va dire pic entre le 1 et le 15 aout et autour de ces dates un peu plus d'étalement, cette saisonnalité (dont beaucoup aimerait se passer) implique de nombreux déplacements de touristes vers des lieux assez similaires (avec des gosses on choisira plutot la mer, la chaleur des possibilités d'activités....quelques uns pratiquent le voyage lointain mais vu les tarifs tout le monde n'y a pas accès.
Donc, effectivement de nombreuses personnes se déplacent vers BARCELONE (mer, soleil, chaleur, ville plutot sympa) plutot que Madrid (au moi d'aout c'est un peu mort les madrilènes sont en vacances et il n'a pas la mer). Donc de quel droit priverions nous ces personnes de vacances....Il est grand temps de se plaindre aujourd'hui alors que tout a toujours été fait pour developper le tourisme....il aurait peut être fallu y penser avant de construire barres de béton sur barres de béton ....
ton retour d'expérience sera intéressant. Mais sachant que les enfants italiens seront sur le point de recommencer l'école et que pour les autres, ce sera déjà fait, ça devrait être agréable point de vue fréquentation.
Après, si je reviens au début de ce post, le problème soulevé en plus des prix exhorbitants était l'incivilité de plus en plus croissante d'une catégorie de touristes.
Autre problème sévissant depuis quelques temps en Espagne :
parce que pas d'enfant, pas de contrainte professionnelle, c'est une chance et ce n'est pas celle de nombre d'entre nous.
Les contraintes pro, on ne les choisit pas, ou disons partiellement en choisissant une carrière ; en revanche ne pas avoir d'enfants n'est pas exactement une chance mais plutôt un choix de vie. 🙂
Et nous en revenons à la sacro sainte période des vacances scolaires...
En France, nous avons 17 semaines de vacances scolaires par an, hormis les parents qui ont des vacances imposées en août, pourquoi vouloir aller absolument sur les sites archi-touristiques au mois d'août ?
Les exemples cités (Italie, Croatie, Barcelone, etc) peuvent se visiter toute l'année ou presque, c'est quand même plus sympa avec moins de monde en avril ou début novembre qu'avec la foule (et les tarifs !) du mois d'août ? 🙁
avec des gosses on choisira plutôt la mer, la chaleur des possibilités d'activités....
Donc on parle bien d'un choix de vie, avec enfants.
Mais des rivages sympas avec activités ne se résument pas aux 4-5 lieux touristiques majeurs de Méditerranée où tout le monde se sent obligé de se concentrer ! On peut se baigner largement ailleurs qu'à Barcelone, à Mykonos ou aux Cinq terres !
Donc de quel droit priverions nous ces personnes de vacances....
Aller à la plage dans un lieu pas sur-envahi l'été, et visiter plus agréablement Barcelone à Pâques ou à la Toussaint, c'est trop exiger ?
Demander aux personnes concernées de privilégier des lieux moins fréquentés en très haute saison, soit 99 % du littoral européen pour caricaturer, c'est les priver de vacances ?! 🤪
Les voyages à petit prix d'une souris en Europe (plus de 20.000 photos, des plans, conseils pratiques sur les transports, les formalités, les vols low cost, la location avec airbnb...)
Les contraintes pro, on ne les choisit pas, ou disons partiellement en choisissant une carrière ; en revanche ne pas avoir d'enfants n'est pas exactement une chance mais plutôt un choix de vie. 🙂
Elle n'a pas dit qu'elle avait la chance de ne pas avoir d'enfant, elle a dit qu'elle avait la chance de pouvoir choisir ses vacances parce qu'elle n'avait pas d'enfant, ce qui n'est pas exactement la même chose 😉 )imagine ta remarque à qqn qui n'aurait pas fait ce choix, mais subirait cet état de fait...😕)
Pour le reste je suis assez d'accord avec toi. Le problème c'est que monde va là où il y a du monde. Y'a qu'à avoir les terrasses des restaurants l'été 😏
Partir à la plage aux vacances de Pâques ou aux relâches d'octobre, et profitez de l'été à la maison où les températures sont agréables et où justement on se subit plus la foule sur les routes et dans les commerces, quel bonheur...
Oui, c'est ce qu'on dit, les gens sont moutonniers...
Je vais souvent dans des petits restos pas très chers où il n'y a pas grand-monde (voire personne) alors qu'on y mange bien, et à côté le resto "cher" pour bobos est plein à craquer...
Effectivement les français en général concentrent toutes leures sorties entre le 15 juillet et le 15 août et après ils pleurnichent dans les zones touristiques où ils sont résidents à l'année car les lumière des restaurants ne s'allument plus alors qu'ils n'y mettent jamais les pieds avant de pouvoir s'assoir en terrasse à partir du printemps.
Chose bien différente en Espagne
Si Barcelone est envahi de jeunes français l'été, c'est plus un rite qu'autre chose, c'est le rdv estivale des français et italiens depuis 25 ans.
L'année dernière j'y suis allé en janvier, c'était nikel, il faut choisir ses dates.
Mais au vue de la dette catalane, je doutes qu'ils fassent des restrictions touristiques.
En France, nous avons 17 semaines de vacances scolaires par an, hormis les parents qui ont des vacances imposées en août, pourquoi vouloir aller absolument sur les sites archi-touristiques au mois d'août ?
Tout le monde sait bien que si on veut passer de belles vacances il faut impérativement partir en Août direction: La méditerranée!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN59oMMIyW0
en aout je suis allé à prague , je n'ai jamais vu une foule pareille , même venise , c'est ridicule à côté
ceci dit , tout le monde a ses contradictions : chez moi , en provence , je considère le tourisme comme une nuisance ; et quand je ne suis pas chez moi , je suis un touriste ; je suppose que c'est la même chose pour un barcelonais ou un vénitien
Avant les touristes allaient en Irlande pour le pays les paysages la culture la bière.... aujourd'hui ils vont voir les lieux de tournage de games of thrones.. affligeant...
chez moi, en provence, je considère le tourisme comme une nuisance
C'est un peu pour ça que j'ai déménagé en remontant un peu vers le nord et la montagne .Ici même en Août sorti des grand axes on est bien tranquille. Dans le Vercors on n' est pas encore touché par le tourisme de masse!
Avant les touristes allaient en Irlande pour le pays les paysages la culture la bière.... aujourd'hui ils vont voir les lieux de tournage de games of thrones.. affligeant...
Ce genre de tourisme n’est pas nouveau. Par exemple, en Angleterre, avec le succès de la série « Inspecteur Barnaby » (Midsomer murders), des excursionnistes organisent des excursions de visite des villages (très jolis, soit dit en passant) où la série a été tournée. Le film comique « Borat » a donné à certains touristes l’envie de découvrir le Kazakhstan. Et depuis la publication du Code Da Vinci de Dan Brown, les visites ésotériques de Paris ont du succès. Pourquoi serait-ce affligeant ? Ces voyages peuvent être l’occasion de découvertes intéressantes car on va rarement dans un pays pour un seul but.
Dans le même registre, le bidonville où a été tourné le clip de "Despacito", à Puerto Rico, a connu une affluence record de voyageurs ces derniers mois.
pour avoir habiçté La Mure, st georges de Commiers, Grenoble... pendnat qulques années, la chute du tourisme de masse dans le vercors n est elle pas due à la dispoarition de la neige en hiver ? !
Bien d'accord avec vous, rien d'affligeant la dedans, c'est une nouvelle forme de tourisme qui permet de connaitre des endroits où on ne serait pas allés et ça permettra peut être de désengorger certaines destinations trop prisées actuellement, il faut vivre avec son temps et accepter les changements, moi cette idée ne me déplait pas, surtout pour les villages Barnaby. et en Nouvelle Zélande, pour le Seigneur des anneaux mais là un peu loin quand même etc...............
Comme vous le dites, il faut vivre avec son temps. Et à ce point de vue, je pense que le cinéma et la TV influencent énormément les choix de destination de voyage. Je ne sais pas si c'est un bien ou mal mais c'est de toute manière un fait.
Des émissions comme "Ushuaïa", "Thalassa", "Les carnets du bourlingueur" ou encore "Fourchette et sac à dos", pour n'en citer que quelques-unes, ont certainement donné envie de voyager à pas mal de gens et de découvrir autre chose que les endroits ultra-courus...
pendnat qulques années, la chute du tourisme de masse dans le vercors n est elle pas due à la dispoarition de la neige en hiver ? !
J'sais pas pour l'hiver mais c'est sûr si les gens cherchent de la neige en Août ils risquent d'être déçus! En été ya quand même des touristes mais ils se concentrent surtout sur Villard de Lans , Lans en Vercors et Autrans
Les flux touristiques sont devenus trop important dans le monde, et ce n'est pas prêt de s'arranger vu la démographie mondiale.
De nos jours un simple selfie peut donner l'idée à des millions de personnes de visiter un endroit.
La rapidité et la facilité de diffusion de l'information via internet, les reseaux sociaux est destructice.
Je pense que pour freiner le phénomène il faudrait rendre le tourisme moins accessible comme au 20 e siècle ou c'etait réservé à une élite, en augmentant sensiblement les prix des billets d'avion, sinon on part à la catastrophe ( le trafic aérien est prévu pour doubler dans moins de 20 ans).
La question de l'existence d'un forum comme celui ci se pose également, car elle contribue au phénomène.
"When I saw the Hoggar Mountains, my jaw dropped. If you think of Bryce, or Canyonlands National Park, you're close, but the Hoggar Mountains are more spectacular." David Ball, Empire of sands
Je pense que pour freiner le phénomène il faudrait rendre le tourisme moins accessible comme au 20 e siècle ou c'etait réservé à une élite, en augmentant sensiblement les prix des billets d'avion, sinon on part à la catastrophe ( le trafic aérien est prévu pour doubler dans moins de 20 ans).
La question de l'existence d'un forum comme celui ci se pose également, car elle contribue au phénomène.
Que voilà des idées excellentes 😎 !
Merci, tu me fais ma fin d'année à rigoler...
Tu as tout à fait raison Voyageur1606.
Il faudrait stopper la dérive, à tous les niveaux, de la consommation éffrenée. Pour le traffic aérien taxer le kérosène.
Je ne vois paz ce qu'il y a de rigolo là-dedans.
Je pense que pour freiner le phénomène il faudrait rendre le tourisme moins accessible comme au 20 e siècle ou c'etait réservé à une élite, en augmentant sensiblement les prix des billets d'avion, sinon on part à la catastrophe ( le trafic aérien est prévu pour doubler dans moins de 20 ans).
La question de l'existence d'un forum comme celui ci se pose également, car elle contribue au phénomène.
Des qu'on émet une idée qui n'est pas conforme a la pensée unique on est taxe de troll.
"When I saw the Hoggar Mountains, my jaw dropped. If you think of Bryce, or Canyonlands National Park, you're close, but the Hoggar Mountains are more spectacular." David Ball, Empire of sands
un troll je ne connais pas mais un has been oui
ce forum voyage n est pas fait pour alerter sur le surtourisme mais pour aider les gens a tirer le meilleur de leur voyage
alors quand on dit que des series tv vont aider des villes a s en sortir...ou decouvrir des lieux qui prefereraient ne pas etre inondes par le tourisme..
mais les gens se donnent bonne conscience
il n y a pas de pensee unique que des dictateurs qui on trouve leur club et empechent les autres
de s exprimer
salut
comment rendre les destinations moins accessibles il y a de plus en plus de vols low cost
on ne peut pas empecher les gens moins fortunes de voyager c est deja de l elitisme
chacun est l elite de l autre
pourquoi pas instituer un genre de tombola internationale pour les sites hyper touristiques tu t inscris et tu attend d etre l heureux elu
comment rendre les destinations moins accessibles il y a de plus en plus de vols low cost
on ne peut pas empecher les gens moins fortunes de voyager c est deja de l elitisme
chacun est l elite de l autre
Très simple : l'offre avion augmente mais les lieux de destination ne sont pas extensibles à l'infini.
Les autorités locales vont donc, tout naturellement, instaurer des quotas. Cela se fait déjà pour certaines destinations et beaucoup de lieux hyper-touristiques y songent sérieusement.
Il faudra donc s'inscrire sur des listes d'attente…. C'est une évolution inévitable, je pense.
Evidemment, il est fort possible qu'en payant suffisamment, certains touristes fortunés puissent se retrouver comme par magie en tête de liste ! 🙂
salut
les autorites locales encore faut il qu elles existent et ne soient effectivement pas corrompues
mais c est vrai que certains pays ont ferme des sites plutot dans les pays en voie de developpement me semble t il
salut
tu peux reconnaitre que ca limite beaucoup ou il faut du temps ce que la majorite des touristes n ont pas
Ca m'a toujours fait marrer cet argument du temps. D'un poinr de vue biologique, on est tous à peu-près égaux, le temps s'écoule de la même manière pour tout le monde.
Alors ce sont des choix de vies de gens plus ou moins responsables.
Quand à l'argument de l'élitisme, les inégalités sociales sont un autre sujet. Faire l'impasse sur les problèmes d'environnement au nom des injustices sociales, ce serait comme rétablir l'esclavage sous prétexte que les prolos ont eux aussi le droit d'avoir des domestiques (c'est, entre parenthèses, déjà le principe du low-cost, ... et notre modèle de consommation en général).
je voyage beaucoup et je ne suis jamais monté dans un avion ( sauf déplacements professionnels )
Comment faites-vous pour aller par exemple à San Francisco ou à Angkor ? Vous avez, comme la naine de jardin, le yacht qu'un prince monégasque met à votre disposition ?
salut
ta reponse amene plusieures reponses
le temps passe pour tout le monde d accord mais l esperance de vie n est pas la meme dans le monde a moins que tu ne parles qu en europeen
comment demander a des gens qui vivent sans eau et electricite d etre responsables
l ecologie est une preocupation de pays riches les autres ne demandent qu a survivre
moi je dois etre une esclavagiste avec mes 2 bonnes et mon jardinier
Pas nécessairement dans les pays en voie de développement.
Par exemple, à Dubrovnik, on a limité le nombre journalier de touristes : www.tourmag.com/...ouristes_a98149.html
Dans la région du Cinque Terre en Italie, ils ont instauré un système semblable.
Un peu partout, des systèmes semblables sont mis en place. Ou alors, on instaure des restrictions de toutes sortes comme par exemple limiter la durée de séjour. Et évidemment, il y toujours la vieille et increvable recette des taxes, avec, notamment des taxes d'entrée ou des taxes de séjour bien salées : www.geo.fr/...les-bienvenus-194591
oui
life is money
combien de jeunes vont etre decus
j ai vu un clip video africain dont le titre etait ca
je vais m acheter une bugati une autre bentley
des belles femmes dodues mais on ne donne pas pas la recette
Des villes veulent fermer leurs sites célèbres ? Qu'elles les gardent en conserve, on ira ailleurs.
D'autres villes, elles, veulent attirer des visiteurs - et par exemple Saint-Pétersbourg, qui s'est même arrangée pour être desservie par Ryanair l'été prochain. Une très belle ville, intéressante et tout, on dira adieu à Dubrovnik sans aucun regret !
je voyage beaucoup et je ne suis jamais monté dans un avion ( sauf déplacements professionnels )
Comment faites-vous pour aller par exemple à San Francisco ou à Angkor ? Vous avez, comme la naine de jardin, le yacht qu'un prince monégasque met à votre disposition ?
MDR !
😎
Si pas de prince a voiles sous le coude, alternative écolo:
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others?
What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille?
Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit?
Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana?
Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate?
Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines?
For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL.
THANKS GUYS
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed.
Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project.
A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question.
They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕
Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.).
Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did.
I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights
Sidemen (2 nights)
Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights
Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed
Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran
Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights
Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD:
- Walk around central Ubud (1–2h)
- Campuhan Ridge Walk
- Tegalalang Rice Terrace
- Tirta Empul
- Gunung Kawi
- Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN:
- Rice terrace hike (2–3h)
- Cooking class
IN AMED:
- Snorkeling
- Japanese Shipwreck
- Beach + relaxation
- Volcano sunset
ON GILI:
- Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK:
- Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall
- Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level)
- Ulun Danu Bratan Temple
- Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN
- Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well:
👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option
12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM)
1 PM: ferry
3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer
11 PM: start ascent
2 AM–6 AM: volcano
Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM)
👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency
💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR:
- Relaxation
- Quiet beach
- Proximity to airport (30 min)"
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays
where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya).
There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see:
Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees.
We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain.
But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore.
A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night
Coron – 4 nights
Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights
El Nido – 4 nights
Port Barton – 5 nights
Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan
Vigan – 2 nights
Sagada – 2 nights
Banaue – 2 nights
Bagabag – 1 night
Manila – 1 night
I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages.
3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer.
Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place.
On the main routes, we visited:
San José
Alajuela
Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side)
Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side)
And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched.
He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown.
What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor.
At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José:
It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken.
On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox.
From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire.
Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets.
Bars with security guards out front.
I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel.
The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses.
The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in.
A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park.
Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further.
We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it.
A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces.
A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures.
But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business.
Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse!
According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable.
Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos.
A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park!
A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park.
The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color.
Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded!
Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30.
The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches.
As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves.
A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!"
For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex!
The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for?
For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places.
In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs:
Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you.
For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example.
For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk.
The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border.
The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times.
Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot).
For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border.
You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes.
From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??).
With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!!
For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations.
However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards.
Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future.
After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think:
1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport),
1 night in Garda,
1 night in Verona,
1 in Padua, and
3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year.
I told her:
“Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.”
“But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.”
I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk.
“Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.”
I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen.
“Mamido, I did it!”
My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no!
“Congratulations, sweetheart!”
A little shyly, she said:
“Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying:
“Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint!
But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out.
Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me.
But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back.
My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special?
That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like!
M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now.
The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions.
I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid?
Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again?
Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with?
Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now?
What’s really going on here?
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*.
The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods.
On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs?
Maybe those will be *theirs*?
What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get?
What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel?
Do you understand the Martians?
Are their motivations peaceful?