Hi everyone,
I’m a die-hard fan of India, but it’s time I discovered Thailand too to broaden my Asian horizons.
I’m heading there on January 19, 2025, for a 46-day trip (no visa needed as I’m French). I’ve pored over a few guidebooks and travel blogs. Based on what caught my interest, I’ve put together a rough itinerary and list of sights. But since I know absolutely nothing about Thailand, I’m kind of flying blind here.
Since I’m not exactly a spring chicken anymore, I’ve opted for a few bases where I’ll stay several days in the same place. That way, I won’t have to change locations and hotels every day or so, packing and unpacking my suitcase constantly. Instead, I plan to explore the surrounding area each day, within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
So, first question: Is that kind of round-trip distance manageable in a day in Thailand?
In India, renting a car for a day—with a driver—currently costs around 35 to 40 € per day. Knowing that 1,300 to 1,500 THB would be my absolute max, and even then, only if I don’t rent a car every single day.
Which brings me to my second question: Am I being unrealistic?
Otherwise—third question—once I’m settled in the city I’ve chosen as my base, can I get around within that 50–70 km radius using public transport?
I’ve already booked all my hotels—with free cancellation—on booking.com at an average price of 950/1,000 THB per night. Does that put me in a good range for value for money? Or am I dreaming?
Bangkok -> Chiang Mai by overnight train in first-class sleeper
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son – Hot springs – Chiang Dao – caves – Lamphun – other places to be decided on the spot based on what’s worth seeing and transport options
Chiang Mai -> Chiang Rai
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton – Chiang Saen – Doi Tung – Chiang Khong – Doi Ang Khang, Phu Chi Fah, etc.
Chiang Rai -> Phrae
PHRAE (4 days/5 nights): Lampang and surrounding areas, depending on what’s interesting to see
Phrae -> Loei
LOEI (4 days/5 nights): Phu Kradung – Chiang Khan and surrounding areas, depending on what’s worth seeing
Loei -> Buriram
PHIMAI (Nakhon Ratchasima/Khorat) (5 days/6 nights): Phimai – Prasat Muang Tam – Phanom Rung – Prasat Phanom Wan
Phimai -> Khorat (airport or train station) -> Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
Hi there,
I’m also a huge fan of India... for a long time now. But I really love Thailand too. It’s so different from India, and I enjoy spending 1 or 2 months there after India.
To answer your questions... transportation is very well organized, comfortable, and... punctual. The main roads are in great condition. In cities, you’ve got tuk-tuks (the equivalent of rickshaws) and metered taxis. As for car rentals, I’ve never tried it, but renting a scooter or motorcycle is no problem at all. For accommodation, I pay around 550 to 800 THB for two.
Have a great trip to the Land of Smiles!
I’m also a huge fan of India... for a long time now.
Yeah, I’ve seen you post on the India forum before.
Travel is very well organized, comfortable, and... punctual. The main roads are in great condition. In cities, you’ve got tuk-tuks—same as rickshaws—and metered taxis. I’ve never rented a car, but renting a scooter or motorcycle is no problem. For accommodation, I pay around 550 to 800 THB for two.
Enjoy your trip to the Land of Smiles!
Still, I’ve read everywhere to avoid tuk-tuks and go for taxis instead—they’re super cheap.
No way I’m renting a scooter, let alone a motorcycle ;)
Thanks so much for this message—it’s reassuring!
Personally, I’d skip Lopburi (no interest at all).
I’d try to add Sangkhla Buri (Thailand’s largest teak bridge over the lake) after Kanchanaburi. Such a great vibe and it’s so beautiful!!
I prefer Sukhothai over Ayutthaya.
Between Mae Hong Son and Chiang Mai, Pai is also lovely—gorgeous nature.
In Chiang Rai, check out Doi Chang and Singha Park.
Phrae and Loei aren’t essential for a first trip.
In Asia, Agoda is way better than Booking for prices, and you can often cancel for free.
For prices, you’re spot on—easy to find places between 800 and 1400 THB.
Taxis are cheap, and public transport is dirt cheap.
100–150 km a day is no problem for exploring around your hotel.
Hi and thank you so much! I’d written a long, detailed reply based on all your tips and suggestions. But at the last minute, the page glitched again—it’s a nightmare on VF!—and I lost everything. I’m not starting over.
Anyway, a huge thank you!
When you're writing a long post, every few paragraphs, copy-paste and save it in your notepad that you’ve already placed on your desktop.
For the rest, as I mentioned, I think I’ll be able to reach out to you tomorrow.
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to avoid changing locations and hotels almost every day and constantly packing and unpacking my suitcase. Instead, I plan to explore the surrounding areas each day within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
I’m not sure if it’s more relaxing to travel every day?
70 km x 2 still adds up to 140 kilometers of public transport or taxi rides in a single day...
Should I change locations more often but stay at least 2 nights each time to balance both approaches?
950/1000 THB per night
That’s just under 30 € per night.
You didn’t specify the category.
On average, I’m spending around 45 € (for a double room) in mid-range accommodations, mostly in the pricier part of Thailand (the southern triangle: Krabi, Surat Thani, Khao Lak).
1 week for visiting Bangkok – Kanchanaburi/Erawan National Park? – Ayutthaya/Lopburi? – Muang Boran – Samut – Songkram/Amphawa
So, changing your base for each of these places?
Bangkok -> Chiang Mai by overnight train in 1st class sleeper
Those sleepers are popular among travelers. Don’t forget to book as soon as reservations open.
And like in India, when there’s AC, it gets freezing...
PHIMAI (Nakhon Ratchasima/Khorat) (5 days/6 nights): Phimai – Prast Muang Tam Prasat Hin – Phanom Rung – Prasat PhanomWan
I loved Phimai and Phanom Rung—it had a bit of an Angkor vibe. My memories are old, though; the area wasn’t touristy at all back then. I get the feeling Isan is still off the beaten path.
For Khorat, there was a train.
Chiang Mai -> Chiang Rai
I’d originally planned these destinations until I learned March is burning season.
Since you’ll be there in February, you should be fine.
My tip: take the train instead of the bus, even if it’s slower, so you can enjoy the scenery (plus, you can move around—it’s way more comfortable).
With 46 days, you’ve got plenty of time!
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C'est le moment de poster vos meilleurs clichés !
If there’s such a thing as useless posts, I think yours might just win the golden chocolate palm of failure.
It might’ve been a good idea to read the thread before jumping in (a few people have already shared some answers), or even better, to "fuel" the debate with relevant opinions and suggestions on the topic...
Anyway...
To add a little grain to the mill for the author of this thread, I’ll probably be a bit less enthusiastic than the previous contributors.
For a first trip, the itinerary seems very—if not way too—ambitious, but that’s just my opinion.
You say you’re "no longer young"
Without being too wrong, I think you’ll end up exhausted from this trip.
The route is a tourist highway for a good part of the stay.
Bangkok in 7 days right off the bat will already be overwhelming.
The next 6 days with Kanchanaburi, Ayutthaya, and the rest won’t be a walk in the park either, especially since I still haven’t figured out if your plan includes a round trip to Kanchanaburi from Bangkok. If that’s the case, it’ll be a marathon.
Skipping Chiang Mai and Mae Hong Son and the rest in 6 days—we’re continuing the marathon, and if you’re thinking of doing Chiang Mai->Mae Hong Son as a day trip, expect to take a minivan there and back without barely setting foot in Mae Hong Son.
I’ll stop here because you can imagine the rest of your "delights" will, in my view, be more of the same.
Regarding your questions about travel distances, it’s definitely manageable, but since I’ve only rented cars without a driver, I can’t give you any pricing details for a chauffeur service. However, I’m convinced that to stick to such a packed schedule, you’ll need to use one every day outside Bangkok.
Also, knowing that Chiang Mai-Chiang Rai are tourist factories, there’ll be plenty of options, but it might be harder or more expensive in less-visited areas like Khorat or Buriram.
For the third question: the answer is yes, without hesitation. Except it shouldn’t be your first trip there, you need to have at least a basic grasp of Thai, and you need to know how Thailand’s transport system works—which is far from easy for a first-timer, even for some Thais. I don’t think you can check all those boxes, so drop the idea fast. Even with 10 years living here, I wouldn’t do some of these trips without being accompanied by Thai friends, because even if some don’t have the transport know-how, they have one advantage I’ll never have: the Thai language.
As for hotels, after many experiences, price isn’t always a guarantee of quality in Thailand, so there’s no saying you won’t be disappointed. That said, reviews on booking sites can be helpful.
Far from me the idea of worrying you—Thailand remains an incredibly interesting and fascinating country—but in my view, it’s best enjoyed at the pace of the Thai people and their serenity.
Obviously, everything I’ve written above is just my opinion, which others may not share at all. Such is life.
It’s up to you to find the right solution if it exists—the one that suits you best...
Hello! I’m heading to Thailand at the end of November for two months before heading off to India ;-)
For Thailand, I recommend downloading the GRAB app. The prices are unbeatable. It’s a great complement to tuk-tuks, which are usually for very local trips. It works like Uber, except you can pay in cash even when booking through the app.
Hi Kate,
I’m reaching out to you to respond to this gentleman who replied to me—not directly, but through you. And he did so in a rude and aggressive way toward you, even though you’d just wanted to give me a kind word of encouragement, since I’d mentioned in another discussion that I wasn’t getting many responses...
I want to thank this gentleman for taking the time to send me such a long message. For my part, I’ll be more concise in telling him that even though I mentioned being a certain age, I don’t travel—yet—in a wheelchair. In fact, I’m a grown man, I’ve got a brain that works just fine, and if I see for myself that I’m too tired or that I’ve been too ambitious—I prefer the word *ambitious* to *marathon*—I’ll be smart enough not to push myself to see everything or even make drastic cuts to my plans. But 46 days gives me plenty of time, especially in Thailand, which isn’t India when it comes to transportation.
In the end, this gentleman didn’t really teach me much except that I’m a newbie in Thailand, which I already knew myself—otherwise, I wouldn’t have posted this request.
Still, I sincerely thank him for his reply, and I’ll take it into account... or not—wink to Attila.
Hi there, I'm heading to Thailand at the end of November for 2 months before heading off to India ;-)
For Thailand, I recommend downloading the GRAB app. The prices are unbeatable. It complements tuk-tuks, which are usually for very local trips. It works like Uber, except you can pay in cash even when booking through the app.
Thanks so much for the tip. I’ll definitely keep it in mind.
If I didn’t reply directly, it’s because I know that, as the thread author, you’re notified of messages posted here.
But well, if I’d known you were so sensitive...
I don’t see any rudeness or aggression in my message—I just pointed out how useless this post is, especially when no info is given about the requests.
If uselessness is your thing, then by all means...
As for the rest of your message, it doesn’t bother me if my post "doesn’t teach you much"—that’s probably because of your vast knowledge, which I hadn’t suspected.
That said, it at least helps us understand why most of the old-timers from before don’t come back to post replies.
Hello,
I’m only responding to what I know a bit about since I traveled through some of these places back in 1980!
And I plan to explore the surrounding areas each day, within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
So, first question: is this round-trip distance manageable in a day in Thailand?
Yes, but it’s pushing it—though the roads are much better than in India. If you have to do this often, it might get tiring.
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son - Hot Springs - Chiang Dao - Caves – Lamphun – other places to be determined on-site based on what’s interesting and transport options
That doesn’t add up at all. To visit Mae Hong Son, which is over 200 km from Chiang Mai, you’ll need to stay there or within 30 km.
Chiang Dao is over 100 km from Chiang Mai!...
Lamphun is south of Chiang Mai (25/30 km) and is best done by taxi or songthaews.
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton
A suggestion for traveling from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai in 2 or 3 days (or more if you have time). That’s what I did (among other things) in 1980.
From Chiang Mai, go to Fang (now takes 3–4 hours by minibus),
then to Thaton (by bus or taxi). A half-hour taxi ride. Stay there overnight.
The next day (or the day after), take a boat down the Kok River to Chiang Rai.
In Mae Hong Son (you *must* stay overnight!), there are plenty of temples to visit and villages like Lahu, Karen, Lisu, etc. Things have probably changed a lot... and the villages may have become overly touristy. I did this on foot over several days back then.
After Mae Hong Son, I recommend heading to Mae Sariang (about 150 km south), by a river and surrounded by forested mountains. It was very peaceful at the time, with a lovely traditional market, tea fields, and plenty to see, including several old wats.
For the rest, I don’t know much, and I’ve also forgotten a fair bit.
Here’s an ambitious and spread-out itinerary. There’s some streamlining and development to be done.
You’ve chosen hotels in a price range that isn’t the lowest, which will help you avoid certain discomforts and provide a bit more comfort—something that’s not insignificant for a month and a half.
I sent you an email.
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Hello
I’m only responding to what I know a bit about since I traveled through some of these places back in 1980!
And I plan to explore the surrounding areas each day, within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
So, first question: Is this round-trip distance manageable in a day in Thailand?
Yes, but it’s pushing it—though traffic is much better than in India. If you do this often, it could get tiring.
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son - Hot Springs - Chiang Dao - Caves – Lamphun – other places to be decided on the spot based on what’s interesting and transport options
That doesn’t add up at all. To visit Mae Hong Son, which is over 200 km from Chiang Mai, you’ll need to stay there or within 30 km.
Chiang Dao is over 100 km from Chiang Mai!...
Lamphun is south of Chiang Mai (25–30 km) and is best done by taxi or songthaews.
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton
A suggestion for traveling from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai in 2 or 3 days (or longer if you have time). That’s what I did (among other things) in 1980.
From Chiang Mai, go to Fang (now takes 3–4 hours by minibus),
then to Tha Ton (by bus or taxi). About half an hour by taxi. Stay there overnight.
The next day (or the day after), take a boat down the Kok River to Chiang Rai.
In Mae Hong Son (you *must* stay overnight!), there are plenty of temples to visit and villages like Lahu, Karen, Lisu, etc. Things have probably changed a lot... and the villages may have become overly touristy. I did this on foot over several days.
After Mae Hong Son, I recommend heading to Mae Sariang (about 150 km south), by a river and surrounded by forested mountains. It was very peaceful back then, with a lovely traditional market, tea fields, and lots to see, including several old wats.
For the rest, I don’t know much, and I’ve also forgotten a fair bit.
Good evening Jean Michel, I had written a long reply, and the page just crashed again. Everything’s gone... I’ll try again tomorrow.
Thanks so much
Hi Jean-Michel, I’m picking up my reply from yesterday that got lost—I hope I manage to finish it this time!
That really doesn’t work at all. To visit Mae Hong Son, which is over 200 km from Chiang Mai, you need to stay there or within 30 km.
I’d actually made that note myself and had removed it from my itinerary. But a friend assured me it was doable by spending one night there—while leaving my suitcase at the Chiang Mai hotel and coming back the next morning.
Chiang Dao is over 100 km from Chiang Mai!…
I thought that by leaving early in the morning—by car—it’d be doable in a day with a return to my hotel in the evening without too much fatigue.
From Chiang Mai, go to Fang (currently takes 3–4 hours by minibus), then to Thaton (bus or taxi). Half an hour by taxi. Stay there. The next day or the day after, take a boat down the Kok River to Chiang Rai.
I’d planned that too, and it really interested me. But I saw that at this time of year, there isn’t enough water for the boat trip.
In Mae Hong Son (you *have* to stay there!) there are plenty of temples to visit and villages like Lahu, Karen, Lisu, etc. Things have probably changed a lot… and the villages may have become too touristy. I did this on foot over several days. After Mae Hong Son, I recommend going to Mae Sariang (about 150 km south), by a river and surrounded by forested mountains. It was very peaceful back then, with a beautiful traditional market, tea fields, and lots to see, including several old wats.
This makes me want to reschedule that trip and adjust my stays to include overnight hotel stops.
I think I need to rework all of this—it was just a first draft.
I’m a bit of a lone old bear, and I’d prefer to avoid places that are too crowded… But without knowing Thailand, it’s pretty tricky!
That’s an ambitious and scattered plan. There’s some trimming and fleshing out to do.
I put this itinerary together a bit blindly, just by reading a few guides and a -small- map, based on what I felt like seeing. I’m ready to tweak it, cut things out. I’m not one of those people who tries to cram in every sight. I like taking my time and avoiding crowds—you know that. If you’ve got any ideas or tips to share, don’t hesitate. Thanks a lot!
You’ve picked hotels in a price range that isn’t the cheapest, which’ll help you avoid some hassles and give you a bit more comfort—definitely not a bad call for a month and a half.
I’d like to travel as light as possible. Not like when I go to India, where I end up carrying a ton of stuff because I stay for 6 months or more. So I’ll be minimizing clothes. Are laundry services easy to find and reasonably priced in hotels, and do they usually dry things by the next day?
Hi,
Before I forget, I owe you all an apology.
First off, the start of your reply to Kate really irritated me because poor Catherine just wanted to say something nice, and you tore her apart. Anyway, moving on. Then, before I realized what you were saying was right, I was put off by how you said it, which I won’t dwell on either.
So I read other travel journals, especially Jojoone’s, who also sent me an email saying the same thing as you—but differently—and I realized you were right. Too much is too much. Especially for someone who likes to take their time everywhere, when traveling and in life. So I’m going to make some big cuts to my plan. AND since I’m being honest with myself, I’ve come to tell you about it.
Now I just need to figure out what to keep and what to cut...
So thank you!!! And no hard feelings
I really love rural Isaan for its "make-do" vibe, completely off the tourist trail.
After 40 days on a road trip, I’d hate to miss it.
I totally get that. What I meant was that looking at the photos (maybe not all of them), they don’t really inspire me, but I think they just aren’t the best representation of what this province has to offer. That’s just the opinion of a mediocre photographer, though.
Hello,
Before I forget, I owe you a few apologies.
Good evening,
As the saying goes, a fault confessed is half redressed.
First, the beginning of your reply to Kate really irritated me, because poor Catherine had just wanted to say something kind, and you tore her to shreds.
That it irritated you, fair enough... But that "kind" word you describe should have stayed with you, because in the thread it was insulting to the people who had taken the time to participate in your topic before her post saying "no one to answer...". Besides, I wasn’t even one of them—I can’t even be accused of defending my "turf."
"Tore her to shreds"—isn’t that a bit excessive? I invite you to reread my lines, but like you, this lack of respect (because that’s how it comes across when you don’t know "the full story") toward those who take the time to share their experiences really gets to me.
Then, before realizing what you were saying was right, I was put off by how you said it...
It’s said simply, directly, and without frills—from a tablet and with a bit of jet lag. Sorry if it lacks lyricism, but I don’t recall seeing any in your questions, nor is this a forum dedicated to that...
That said, I found you quite harsh, especially since I was just repeating your own words about accusing me of treating you like an invalid.
So I read other travel journals, especially Jojoone’s, who also sent me an email saying the same thing as you—but differently—
I can only encourage you to take his point of view—and that of a few others—into consideration. He’s a veteran of this forum with an impressive track record.
Enough is enough. Especially for someone who likes to take their time everywhere, in travel as in life.
It wasn’t exactly jumping out at first glance, but as I told you in my previous post, Thailand is savored if you hope to grasp the richness of its people and culture. Unfortunately, few people do, no matter where they come from.
So I’m going to make some drastic cuts to my plan.
Why call them drastic? 😛
And since I’m being honest with myself, I’ve come to tell you.
Since you publicly lashed out at me, it was only right to correct it the same way.
Now I just need to decide what to keep and what to cut...
Unfortunately, I’m not you, but I’ll still take the liberty of giving you a few points that might, I hope, help your reflection based on what seems most important or essential to you.
If you really want to keep this part, I suggest splitting it into two: one at the beginning of your trip and one at the end.
Beyond how tiring Bangkok can be, there’s an important cultural reason: your dates coincide with the second-biggest event in Chiang Mai—the Flower Festival, which takes place the first weekend of February (February 1–2, 2025). It’s an event you should experience at least once. Personally, I’ve done it twice. It’s a bit less crowded than Loy Krathong, which just happened, but unfortunately, this year it falls right during Chinese New Year.
Bangkok -> Chiang Mai by overnight train in 1st-class sleeper.
You can book it now—it’s already open—but I’d strongly recommend 2nd class; it’s much livelier than 1st.
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son – Hot springs – Chiang Dao – caves – Lamphun – other places to be determined on-site based on what’s interesting and transport options
As has already been said: split this area, which is way too vast for your initial idea. For example, a 3-3-3 split (Chiang Mai-Mae Hong Son-Chiang Mai) could be an alternative, with luggage storage at your Chiang Mai hotel to travel lighter.
Chiang Mai -> Chiang Rai
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton – Chiang Saen – Doi Tung – Chiang Khong – Doi Ang Khang, Phu Chi Fah, etc.
Split this area like Chiang Mai.
Chiang Rai -> Phrae
PHRAE (4 days/5 nights): Lampang and surroundings based on what’s interesting to see
No experience in this area, but this is where the off-the-beaten-path part begins, requiring more energy and time. From here on, you’ll have to make significant cuts.
Phrae -> Loei
LOEI (4 days/5 nights): Phu Kradung – Chiang Khan and surroundings based on what’s interesting to see
Same as above. The Mekong stretch to Nong Khai is beautiful but requires more independence for getting around.
Loei -> Buriram
PHIMAI (Nakhon Ratchasima/Khorat) (5 days/6 nights): Phimai – Prasat Muang Tam – Phanom Rung – Prasat Phanom Wan
Split and lighten this area—it’s still a part that demands more energy unless you delegate everything to your hotel, as with previous stops. But you should know that comes at a cost...
Phimai -> Khorat (airport or train station) -> Bangkok. Overnight in Bangkok.
As has already been said, the train is great.
To wrap up, I understand your need to book in advance—it’s comfortable to arrive without having to "shop around" for where to stay—but it has a downside: flexibility. While it’s justified for high-demand areas like Chiang Mai, for quieter parts, nothing’s stopping you from handling things day by day, having preselected your hotels. It would be quite extraordinary for everything to be fully booked, even if you can’t find the exact place on the booking site. And this gives you the freedom to stay longer in places that inspire you or cut short those that disappoint.
Dear Mr. Partirdeloin, you shocked Mr. Marien and knocked out poor Kate, whose comment was really well-intentioned. You were quite naughty!
You might end up like me—annoying everyone! 😛 😎
On the substance, you’ve brought up points that will help Jean Marie make good progress. It’s clear you know the country well.
It’s likely Jean Marie will come back with a less ambitious and more realistic version of his project, and in the end, he’ll be just as satisfied. When planning a trip at home, we think we can pull off an itinerary that would only be realistic and enjoyable if we could stretch out the days, right?
By the way, he’s into natural sites, temples, and authentic local crafts. Do you have any tips for him, even in a DM?
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Contrary to what you wrote, the road between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai has absolutely no interest.
You don’t see the Mekong at all.
The road isn’t anything special—it doesn’t compare to the roads up north.
The Mekong makes sense around Chiang Khong or near Nakhon Phanom, but that’s not the route the original poster asked about.
As for Chiang Khan, it’s a selfie spot for Bangkok locals on weekends, and the accommodations are overpriced for what you get.
The area has little to offer overall.
Dear Mr. Partirdeloin, you shocked Mr. Marien and knocked out poor Kate, whose comment was really well-intentioned. You were quite naughty!
You might end up like me, annoying everyone! 😛 😎
Dear Jojoone1,
I think I’ll survive... 😉
On the substance, you’ve provided elements that will help Jean Marie make good progress. It’s clear you know the country well.
Far be it from me to claim such expertise—after all, "no one is a prophet in their own land," so imagine in a country that isn’t even yours...
It’s likely Jean Marie will come back with a less ambitious and more realistic version of his plan, and he’ll probably be just as satisfied. When we plan a trip at home, we think we can fit in a route that would only be realistic and enjoyable if we could stretch out the days, right?
I hope so for him—though we all sometimes "bite off more than we can chew"...
By the way, he’s into natural sites, temples, and real local crafts. Do you have any tips for him, even in a PM?
Unfortunately, my dear Jojoone the First, as you’ve probably noticed, I have no talent for storytelling—unlike some of you. Not a single travel journal in 10 years... 😕 Almost a shame compared to all your talents, which I lack.
I must also admit that I don’t have much time, prioritizing real life, and I’m plenty busy with that...
And as I’ve said before, I’ve always been independent in the Land of Smiles—no agencies, tour operators, drivers, guides, or anything like that. Just my intuition, sometimes with no results, sometimes amazed, but always without knowing the name of what I saw...
Temples are like churches in France or other places of worship—I’ve always refused to pay entry. If I want to make a donation, it’s my choice, not an obligation. The only exception I made was the Silver Temple in Chiang Mai—50 THB at the time.
There are so many temples across Thailand. I’ve made some great discoveries, especially in the village of the friend we were talking about earlier. He showed me another temple with a crocodile enclosure on the grounds. I’ve also seen many Khmer temple ruins that I’ll never pay the prohibitive prices to visit at Angkor in Cambodia—though you can find photos of them all over the internet.
contrary to what you wrote, the road between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai has absolutely no interest.
Hello,
Unlike you, I’ve never compared your tastes with mine, as that’s a matter of personal preference.
But maybe you’re some kind of "Messiah" with divine words...
You don’t see the Mekong.
I could show you dozens of spots where it’s visible—I remember a temple perched on a hill with a 360° view that rivaled Mount Phu Chi Fa’s.
As for Chiang Khan, it’s a selfie zone for Bangkokians on weekends, and the accommodations are overpriced for the standard offered. The region has little interest.
That might be true on weekends and during holidays, but otherwise, it’s a very peaceful town. And for your information, *Monsieur Divine Word*, "Bangkorians" don’t exist—it’s your imagination. They’re called Bangkokians or people from Bangkok.
Finally, as I mentioned earlier, this area, in my opinion, can only be explored independently, which isn’t what Marien33 is looking for.
It's true that with a drone, the Mekong is visible all the way between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai.
Keeping your eyes glued to the control screen is doable with a good battery reserve.
It’d be a shame to miss that on a first trip.
You must not have been to Chiang Khan in a long time—it’s become artificial, a selfie showcase, with another Skywalk and developments along the Mekong.
It might appeal to Instagram tourists.
Hi everyone,
I can’t seem to book a first-class sleeper from Bangkok to Chiang Mai on February 2nd via the train company’s official website.
At first, I thought it was because I was searching too early. But now (December 3rd), it should’ve worked.
No trains show up for that date.
Is there another way to book this train ticket? Thanks so much.
Thanks Agnès, that sheds some light! Apparently, the waiting list system is brand new but not quite polished yet since you don’t know your rank on the waitlist... So it’s holding me back from booking another option like a bus or flight...
Since you’re staying a while, maybe you can change the day?
I tried changing the date, but it’s the same... With Chinese New Year, the trains are packed. And I don’t want to linger in Bangkok either...
Oh well... it’ll work out... it’ll work out... it’ll work out...
Chinese New Year is pretty much hell.
I ended up in Hua Hin during that period, and everything was fully booked...
Spent the night in a dump waiting for the next day when it was over.
That’s partly why I like to book in advance!
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Chinese New Year is pretty much hell.
I ended up in Hua Hin during that time and everything was fully booked...
Spent the night in a dump waiting for it to be over the next day.
It's in French because Google did an automatic translation.
I had chosen English.
Thanks so much for your help, but unfortunately, it didn't work. I got the same option as you, but when I click to select it, I get the message: **Seat not enough. Please select another train coach.**
I’ve tried 4 times already...
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Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM).
Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do????
We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc.
Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else.
Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening.
We’ll be there at the end of October.
Thanks!
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search.
I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
