License to legally ride a scooter in Thailand
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GA Garcinlazare Regular ·
Right... I’d forgotten that.
GA Garcinlazare Regular ·
You're welcome😉
GA Garcinlazare Regular ·
Is this still current?

Before Covid, the governor of Phuket had asked rental companies to check if the customer held a license, given the very high number of accidents—sometimes fatal—involving tourists.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Tourists sometimes without helmets, without insurance, and with barely any money.
GA Garcinlazare Regular ·
Exact🏴‍☠️ as long as nothing happens to them... trouble starts when there’s an accident with a local, whether you have an A license or not, whether you’re in the right or not...🏴‍☠️
MU Mushu23 Veteran ·
.The French A1 license isn't actually a license in itself since it's just a certificate for a 7-hour training course taken at a driving school, and as far as I know, it's only for riding up to 125cc. You absolutely must have a B license, and it's never transcribed onto an international permit.

That’s not true—the A1 license is a real motorcycle license that requires passing the theory test, the off-road circuit exam, and the on-road test. You need at least 20 hours of training, just like the A license. You can get the A1 license without having a B license.
LU Lulu56 Regular ·
Thanks for all this feedback!

I’ll check with a driving school when I feel like it, and we’ll see what options are available based on my situation (category B license, old-school pink paper version 😅).
PA Partirdeloin Regular ·
It's false that the A1 license is a real motorcycle license with a theory test, a closed-circuit exam, and a road test. You need a minimum of 20 hours of training, just like the A license. You can take the A1 license without having the B license.

Hello,

That’s correct, and it can then be transcribed onto the international driving permit. However, in reality, this mainly applies to young people who don’t yet have the 2 years of B license experience. After that, you only need the attestation already mentioned, which doesn’t allow transcription onto the international permit since it’s considered valid only in France and possibly Europe (to be confirmed on the latter point).

Lulu56 stated in her original post that she "doesn’t want to get a motorcycle license," but as the saying goes—only fools never change their minds—so if she decides to, she can absolutely go for it, including the theory test, closed-circuit exam, and road test.

For additional info, here are the figures from the French Road Safety Authority for A1 licenses issued after the exam in 2023, broken down by age group (with A2 license numbers in parentheses):

16 years: 4,954 – 17 years: 2,529 – 18 years: 186 (4,813) – 19 years: 25 (6,322) – 20-24 years: 34 (29,157) – 25-29 years: 15 (19,587) – 30-39 years: 14 (25,135) – 40-49 years: 7 (15,222) – 50-59 years: 1 (7,281) – 60+ years: 0 (1,282) – Total: 7,765 (99,694). This represents 7.79% of all A licenses issued, with a pass rate of 72.1% for A1 and 86.3% for A2.

Best regards,

Partirdeloin
GA Garcinlazare Regular ·
Get your A1 license—it shouldn’t cost much. You’ll still be ticketable, though. With a bit of smooth talk and a nice smile, you *might* get some leniency from the cop🙂.

I don’t think the legislation will change anytime soon. Before COVID, the government had considered creating a second motorcycle license for bikes with an engine size of 400 cc or more. They also talked about introducing a points-based license system. Neither project ever went anywhere.
LU Lulu56 Regular ·
Actually, it's not so much the price that puts me off (even though that's part of my criteria), it's mostly that I hate motorcycles—this type of vehicle scares me, and I feel deeply uncomfortable on them, that's just how it is. I can handle being on a scooter, and that’s my absolute limit! So no, there’s no way I’m getting a category A, A1, A2, or A357 license in the next 10 years! But I’m thinking about looking into it so I’ll be ready if the day ever comes. As @partirdeloin says, only fools never change their minds!

A nice smile: that *might* work, but I won’t rely on it... I’ve already rented scooters often in Thailand, and my approach was to find out what I needed to do to be completely legal. Because we all know, even when you’re in the right, a *farang* involved in an accident can still run into trouble. So, it’s best to be as legal as possible! And it’s also a matter of principle—if it’s the Thai rule, then we respect it!

In any case, thanks for sharing all your opinions and experiences here—I read them all, even if I don’t always reply to everyone!

Happy New Year’s Eve to you all! !
MU Mushu23 Veteran ·
You can take the A1 license on an automatic scooter—it’ll be the same type of vehicle as in Thailand.
GA Garcinlazare Regular ·
To be legal here as a two-wheeler owner: - Have your Thai driver’s license - Have your **POR LOR BOR** valid: this means having third-party liability insurance that covers up to 30,000–40,000 baht for the driver and 60,000–80,000 baht for the passenger. Repairs to the bike(s) aren’t included. This’ll let you pay the tax. On top of that, you can take out **PREMIUM** or **FIVE STARS** (comprehensive) insurance. If there’s a problem, you call them and they’ll send an expert to sort everything out.

All over Thailand, you’ll find French or French-speaking insurance brokers. The cost for comprehensive insurance for a Honda PCX 150 or 160 is around 5,000–7,000 baht/year.

Keep a copy of your passport, visa, a copy of the Green Book, and optionally a copy of your second insurance under the seat in case of a police check.

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