Tips for choosing a long-distance touring bike
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MI
Hi there,

I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).

So, I’ve got quite a few questions:

* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?

* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?

* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?

If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!

Thanks in advance for your help!
HE Herhyck Regular ·
Hi there,

Personally, when traveling in Europe, I chose a recumbent tricycle for its great comfort and the absence of various pains linked to upright bikes. But with it, it's impossible to take a train or bus. Otherwise, check out recumbent two-wheelers—some people have even gone around the world with them. Safe travels and long live your project!
TH Thifou Regular ·
Hey,

5000 euros for a touring bike—and not even equipped? A platinum-plated frame, maybe? Seriously though, you can hit the road with a 500-euro bike if you start with a used one. But even with a new bike, I don’t see the point of spending that much money. As long as everything runs smoothly and works, that’s what matters. Disc brakes, for example? They’re fragile—why bother? V-brakes are perfect, easy to repair, and sturdy. You can also go with an aluminum frame—the chance of it breaking is so slim. Nowadays, some people rightly think steel is more flexible, but hey. In Central Asia, I had an old Decathlon MTB with 36-inch wheels. I removed the elastomer fork (risk of issues) and swapped it for a rigid one. Five panniers, good tires, solid rims, and that’s it.

At worst, you can find a good new hybrid bike or a new gravel bike for around 1000 or 1200 euros, I think. Happy searching..
BE Bern95 Regular ·
Hi Anton, I agree with Thifou. 5000 € for a touring bike is excessive, especially for a first purchase. You’ll need to make choices based on the roads you’ll take without getting swept up in trends. First, wheel size: 26 or 28 inches. Here, 26-inch wheels have been phased out in favor of 28-inch ones in recent years. But is the same true in South America? Don’t forget that on that continent, major cities are often far apart, and local repairs aren’t always easy. Common issues with touring bikes often stem from weak rims and spokes. So, good rims like ZAC 2000 and quality spokes (e.g., DT Swiss) are key. Rim width will depend on the type of tires you want to use—and thus the terrain: asphalt, ripio, sand, etc. Another common issue is the drivetrain. The trend is toward double chainrings with an 11- or 12-speed cassette. A thin chain designed for a 12-speed cassette will be more fragile than one made for an 8-speed. For a long time, touring bikes used triple chainrings with an 8-speed cassette. Thifou already covered frame materials and brakes, so I won’t revisit that. Should you buy here or at your destination? Buying here lets you test your gear before the big departure, learn how to maintain it properly, and be able to repair it if needed. To give you an idea, the year I turned 70, I crossed a small part of Argentina over 3400 km. I knew I’d encounter corrugated dirt roads, sand, and ripio on Ruta 40 near Cachi. My bike: a Giant steel MTB frame, 26-inch ZAC 2000 rims (the kind used on postal bikes), tandem spokes, Shimano Deore 3x8 drivetrain, cantilever brakes, and Tubus racks. Aside from six flat tires, nothing broke. Good luck with your search, and happy trails! Bernard.
WE Wegg Veteran ·
Hi, I built a bike for this kind of trip using a Fuji Touring frame equipped with a Shimano Deore 9-speed groupset, 36-spoke DT Swiss Alpin wheels, and Deore XTR hubs assembled by a craftsman. Originally, I wanted a Surly LHT, but it was impossible to find one with V-Brakes and 700c wheels.
RI Rikimiki Veteran ·
If you're also considering the idea of traveling as a pair, here’s how we do it.

Besides, your question is broad—there are as many ways to ride as there are cyclists, and as many ways to travel as there are cycle-tourers. - Ultra-light, with nights in hotels and meals at restaurants? - Fully self-sufficient with wild camping? - Or maybe a mix somewhere between the two extremes.

Likewise, Latin America is a vast region with a bunch of countries, some huge like Mexico and Argentina, where you’d need all 6 months just for one. And others tiny, which you can cross in a few days, like El Salvador and Honduras.

We can help—just share a bit more about your needs and plans...

SU Suil Regular ·
5000 euros is a big budget. If you love high-end gear, you won’t have any trouble spending it—there are plenty of options. If you're torn between gravel and mountain bikes, you could go for something in between, like a monstercross, which is a great choice for crossing Latin America. The German brand Tout Terrain has a model equipped with a Pinion gearbox, known for its reliability. It’s top-of-the-line gear. The model is the Outback Xplore. I know Tristan Ridley, who’s traveling the world on this bike. For the long haul, Pinion or Rohloff drivetrains are excellent options in terms of reliability and even cost (derailleur systems can get really expensive when you go high-end, with pretty quick wear and tear). Of course, there are plenty of other options, like custom builds from frame builders...

But again, you can travel the world on a simple touring bike or gravel bike. It’s up to you...
MI Minimetro ·
Hi there, So, picturing my solo project—why not! I plan to ride with people I’ll meet along the way, but basically, I’m setting off alone. As for my travel style, it’ll be mostly self-sufficient/bikepacking. A few nights in accommodations here and there to rest up, but otherwise, that’s the plan. I also had a question: lots of people have been telling me about clipless pedals. What do you think for a trip as long and as rugged as Latin America?
MI Minimetro ·
Hi there, I’ve understood that it’s not always necessary to spend a fortune on the budget, which is great for my wallet. I just wanted to start with quality gear right away, but I’ve realized that what I really need is something sturdy yet simple enough to repair anywhere. I wanted to ask: did you use clipless pedals? A lot of people mention them, but I’m not sure what to think for a long-distance trip, especially with sometimes rough roads. Thanks for your reply! :)
BE Bern95 Regular ·
Hi, Since I'm old-school, I'm not a fan of clipless pedals. At the start of this trip in Argentina, I was wearing low-cut hiking shoes wedged into cages attached to the pedals. After the first thousand kilometers, the nails on my big toes turned black from the cages rubbing against the top of my shoes. Seeing that I risked losing my nails, I switched to sandals and thick socks, and surprisingly, my feet didn’t get cold even at high altitudes. Maybe with clipless pedals, I wouldn’t have had this issue, which just goes to show how important it is to test your gear—shoes included—early on before you set off. Take a good look at the photo I posted; I’m in sandals.
RI Rikimiki Veteran ·
Hello, ... I also had a question: a lot of people have been talking to me about clipless pedals. What do you think about them for a trip as long and as precarious as Latin America?

It’s really up to each person; both my partner and I much prefer clipless pedals, especially with the tandem. Your foot is more stable, doesn’t slip off the pedal at the slightest bump, and it’s also more efficient—muscle energy is transferred to the crankset with less loss.

However, there’s a small learning curve for beginners. It can be a bit intimidating at first if you’re not used to it, but you quickly get the hang of it. You learn to unclip effectively and just in time.

Besides, there are also hybrid pedals—clipless on one side and flat on the other. This lets you ride with sandals or lightweight shoes without clips at the end of the day, for example, when running errands or exploring our stopover village.

With the tandem, I sometimes ride with passengers other than my life and adventure partner. Since they’re usually not clipped in, I notice their relative instability right away, like when we hit potholes or bumps. It becomes much easier for both them and me as the pilot once they’re using clipless shoes.

Finally, if you go for this option, it’s important to choose shoes and pedals suited for mountain biking or city riding. Unlike road bike setups, the mechanism is built into the sole—it doesn’t stick out like road cycling shoes. This makes walking easy and lets you explore without risking damage to wooden floors or other delicate surfaces.

Happy planning! You’ve got an amazing project ahead of you!

P.S.: If you need it, here’s the link to our blog, written during our crossing of the 3 Americas (July 2016 to June 2018, 31,000 km by bike). We compiled daily info and stats, including our bivouac spots, people we met, daily maps, etc. Also, on the map below, you’ll find the routes of our 3 crossings of the Americas. For the 2014 and 2016-2018 trips, each day of cycling is shown in a different color from the previous one. The map (the original) can be zoomed in almost infinitely, giving you both an overview and precise details of every little road we took. I can share the link to the original map if needed.

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/NormandetHelene
MI Minimetro ·
Thanks so much for all this info—hybrid pedals really do seem like a great compromise.

I’ll definitely check out your blog, thanks for the link! I had one last little question: what about lighting systems? Do you think it’s mandatory to have a dynamo-powered lighting system? How reliable is that kind of system in a place like Latin America?

Anyway, if you have any insights on that, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again for all the info—I spent the morning trying to wrap my head around all the technical specs of different bike parts. I went to a shop in Annecy that recommended the French bike brand Histoire, and I’m leaning toward the LA RTT (Randonneuse Tout Terrain) Expédition or La Grande Randonneuse Expédition models.
RI Rikimiki Veteran ·
... one last little question: what about the lighting system? In your opinion, is it mandatory to have a dynamo-powered lighting system? How reliable is this kind of system in an environment like Latin America? ....

The downsides of dynamos are numerous: - Uncertain durability and reliability. - Fragility of the setup and wiring, especially during transport by plane, ferry, sailboat, bus, or in a pickup truck—so common among our American neighbors! Wiring can get cut or broken, moving parts can wear out or break, and other issues like torrential rain, snow, ice... - Dynamo friction: it’s not the end of the world, but it adds to your load, the mountains, and the length of your days.

For long-distance bike trips, we preferred using lithium batteries and rechargeable accessories—they’re more reliable and durable. I particularly like the NiteRider brand, especially the super powerful Lumina Dual 1800, which lights up to 1,800 lumens for a weight of just 250 grams. Pair it with a flashing red rear light. That said, we don’t use them continuously on the road; more often than not, we just ride with the rear flash attached to the back of our helmets.

NiteRider Lumina Dual 1800 Low - 6:00h at 350 Lumens Med - 3:00h at 700 Lumens High - 1:30h at 1500 Lumens Boost - 0:45h at 1800 Lumens Pulse Flash - 10:00h at 1500 Lumens Fast Flash - 16:30h at 1500 Lumens

Additionally, plan for a rechargeable headlamp to use in the evening at camp or as a backup on the road, just in case.

For camping, we also use a solar-powered Lucy brand lamp in the evenings—it’s foldable, super lightweight, lasts all evening if needed, and is more than enough inside the tent.

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/6036-371/luci-original-colour-inflatable-solar-lantern-by-biolite?colour=Colour&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22526294608&gbraid=0AAAAAD-dszh09uy6tbA5PtT7wgicf7C2P&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8vvABhCcARIsAOCfwwqLRP4Mta_Q_BqhMni-uIiajNTcjRyP00X09uTIbzG3omSxAVwVyPEaAgHMEALw_wcB
RI Rikimiki Veteran ·
... and I'm leaning toward the LA RTT (Randonneuse Tout Terrain) Expédition models or La Grande Randonneuse Expédition.

In the end, it’s important not to stray too far from the type of cycling that you enjoy the most. If, like us, you come from a road-biking background (from the world of...), I’d recommend not weighing yourself down too much and prioritizing a bike that rolls well and is efficient: smoother, narrower tires, drop handlebars, and a gearing system that lets you maintain good speeds when the opportunity arises (tailwind, gentle downhill, etc.). We estimate that at least 80% of our journey across the 3 Americas was on decently paved roads. On the flip side, we were sometimes penalized on certain sections in Peru, on Trampolín de la Muerte in Colombia, on parts of Ruta 40 in Argentina, and the Carretera Austral in Chile.

On the other hand, all-terrain touring bikes with wider tires, heavier frames, and less aerodynamic designs will give you more versatility in all conditions but will be less efficient on the road and less effective against headwinds. Also, with these bikes geared more for off-road than on-road, you’ll quickly hit a speed limit on descents once you go beyond 35-40 km/h, assuming your largest chainring is 44 teeth and your smallest rear cog is 13. In comparison, I’m geared 53-11 on our touring tandem, which still gives me power at 60 km/h. Many long-distance travelers argue that speed doesn’t matter when you’re heavily loaded, which isn’t wrong... but that doesn’t exclude the pleasure of riding fast and taking on hairpin turns.

That’s why it’s relevant to know your needs and understand what you enjoy when cycling.

JÉ Jérémie53 Regular ·
Hi there,

I’ve been traveling by bike for a few years now. I started with a bike I bought at Decathlon and then added some pannier bags, etc. After a few years, the bike started showing signs of wear.

When I had the funds—around 2000 €—to buy a new bike, I ordered one from Cyclo Randonnée because it matched what I was looking for.

It’s been six years now since I got this bike, and I regret not buying it sooner. It’s been with me on many trips across Africa, Latin America, and Spain. I give it almost annual maintenance, and it still runs like new.

The frame is steel, and the wheels are 26 inches, which is ideal because you can get them repaired anywhere in the world—26-inch wheels are everywhere. It’s also super comfortable with its butterfly handlebars.
NO Nounours Veteran ·
Hello,

bicycle traveler here—I’ve had the same bike, named Bamako, since 2002, and it’s sentimental; I even talk to it. I’ve even told my wife that if I go before her, she should bury me with my bike so I can keep riding up there—apparently, it’s all flat.

My first big trip with it was from Dargoire in the Loire region all the way to Bamako, Mali. After that, I covered a large part of the continents: all of South America, Vietnam, India, Indonesia, Turkey, Cameroon, and more.

The bike I paid 600 € for is a Specialized steel-frame MTB with 36-spoke rims, front toe clips, interchangeable sliding brakes, Schwalbe Marathon tires with a Kevlar strip molded into the tread—practically no more punctures. It’s got butterfly handlebars and a waterproof Ortlieb pannier.

On my travel blog, I share tips about bicycle touring with plenty of advice.

Happy travels! My blog: https://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr
SI Simonthread ·
As many cyclists as there are, as many opinions on bikes. Budget is the first criterion, but then you'll need to make choices about the bike's specific equipment.

For example, I see in your photos a road-style handlebar, round and sporty. From our experience, this isn't ideal at all for long-distance touring: you stay bent over all day, which unnecessarily strains your back muscles and puts pressure on your internal organs.

Still based on our experience, there's one thing we couldn't do without anymore: the rearview mirror. It's an accessory that changes everything in terms of safety!

And if you want to start looking at specific models, I'd suggest a classic from a very experienced brand: the Koga WorldTraveller. This iconic touring bike has recently been redesigned, with a completely new look, almost "armored." With this bike, you'll probably go to the ends of the earth :)







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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

And if you want to start looking at specific models, I’d suggest a true classic from a very experienced brand: the Koga WorldTraveller. This iconic touring bike has recently been redesigned with a whole new look—almost "armored." With this bike, you could probably ride to the ends of the earth! :)

Now that’s a concrete and interesting tip! I’m not really a cyclist, just an active person (mostly long-distance mountain hiking), but I do take week-long bike trips on roads and drivable dirt trails in the mountains... My old 1970s bike isn’t exactly the best for that anymore. I won’t be riding to the ends of the earth, but I’ll definitely think about getting a new bike.
IN Inoga Regular ·
Hi there, which bike and budget did you settle on?
US Usafan Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

Not sure if you're still active on the forum, but I have a quick question. If it’s not too personal, what size do you think would work best for a Koga WorldTraveller for someone who’s 1.75 m tall?

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