Feedback on 30-day Denpasar to Singapore itinerary

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RO
Hello everyone!

It’s such a pleasure to be back on VoyageForum after so many years. A long time ago, I used it to plan and share a wonderful trip between Namibia and Botswana.

This time, I’m preparing a family trip for next summer (two parents, a 15-year-old boy, and an 11-year-old girl) that’ll be our big Christmas gift. I already have the flight tickets: we arrive in Denpasar on July 13th and return from Singapore on August 12th.

Our main focus is Indonesia, but since we don’t often get the chance to travel this far, I wanted to take the opportunity to stop in Kuala Lumpur and Singapore on the way back. It’ll give my kids—especially my son, who’s passionate about geography—a taste of these two major cities.

We prefer quiet spots (no need for party vibes or trendy places), though the girls (yes, there are two of them!) still enjoy discovering local crafts, souvenir shops, and the like. We don’t mind organizing things ourselves—I actually love doing that—and I assumed it’d be easy to arrange transport between hotels by booking through them. We’re not chasing cultural discoveries (one beautiful temple is enough; no need to see all 35, even if they’re stunning).

After reading tons of websites, guides, and forum posts, I’ve put together an itinerary I’d love to get your thoughts on. It’s already changed many times… and I’m sure it’ll change again! The goal is to avoid obvious mistakes, see if we’re trying to do too much, or if some places aren’t worth the effort. Here’s what it looks like so far:

- **Day 1**: Arrival in Denpasar in the late afternoon. Transport to a hotel outside Denpasar.

- **Days 2–5 (4 days)**: Bali. We’d like to stay in one or two quiet spots, away from the southern area, to explore the famous rice terraces, temples, and maybe do some light hiking.

- **Day 6**: Transfer to Lombok by fast ferry from Padang Bai (to avoid going back to the busy southern port, since I’ve heard traffic there is chaotic).

- **Days 6–11 (5 days)**: Lombok. We’d especially like to climb Mount Rinjani (we’re in good enough shape for it) and spend 2–3 days in a nice, quiet seaside spot (I was thinking of the southern Gilis near Lembar or the beautiful beaches in the south of the island).

- **Day 11**: Flight from Lombok Airport to Labuan Bajo.

- **Days 12–14**: 3-day/2-night cruise to Rinca and the various "hot spots" of Komodo National Park.

- **Day 15**: Labuan Bajo. I was thinking of doing a beginner’s diving excursion.

- **Day 16**: Flight back to Denpasar, then transfer to Banyuwangi by bus/boat (apparently possible via Express Bahari).

- **Day 17**: Morning visit to Ijen Crater, then return to the same hotel to relax for the rest of the day.

- **Day 18**: Transfer to a base camp for a sunrise visit to Mount Bromo on Day 19. - **Day 19**: Visit Bromo. We’d like to spend the whole day there to enjoy the site once most people have left. - **Day 20**: Transfer to Surabaya or Yogyakarta. - **Day 21**: Flight to Medan, then transfer to Bukit Lawang. - **Days 22–25**: Bukit Lawang. Jungle trek for 2–3 days and some downtime for 1–2 days. - **Day 23**: Transfer to Dumai. - **Day 25**: Boat from Dumai to Malacca.

The rest isn’t as relevant here.

I have a few big doubts, especially: - Is it worth spending 4 days in Bali and 5 in Lombok, or would it be better to focus on just one island? If so, we’d probably lean toward Lombok—it seems quieter, and Rinjani is calling our name…

- I’m counting on the Komodo trip to explore the islands and marine life in the area. It sounds like a true paradise (manta rays, turtles, Komodo dragons…). From what I’ve read, snorkeling in Bali or Lombok doesn’t offer the same experiences. Do you think that’s really the case? I’ve seen some unflattering comments about Labuan Bajo… Originally, I wanted to do the Lombok–Flores crossing by boat, but the "mandatory" whale shark stop in Sumbawa seems controversial, so I ruled it out.

- For the stretch between Days 16 and 21, I’m not sure about the best way to organize things to enjoy Ijen and Bromo without being in constant rush mode or sleeping for just 3 days. I can’t decide whether to stay near the crater (the hotels seem basic—is it worth spending 2 nights there?) or farther away, even if it means more travel. I’ve also considered skipping Bromo to attempt the Semeru climb. There are also some nice spice plantations nearby (Margo Utomo in Kalibaru). Any thoughts?

Anyway, thanks for making it this far! :-)

Looking forward to reading your replies! !
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Hello,

After scouring countless websites, guides, and forum posts, I put together an 'itinerary'

So, all those websites, guides, and forums suggested you spread yourself this thin across the country and only spend 4-5 days on each of no fewer than 5 (!) islands? I find that hard to believe...

* That’s 2,700 km as the crow flies and a one-hour time difference between the two farthest points...

The main focus is Indonesia, but since we don’t often get the chance to travel this far, I wanted to take the opportunity to stop in Kuala Lumpur and Singapore on the way back

What about Bangkok? Delhi? Phnom Penh? And so on...

including my son, who’s passionate about geography.

So, a good kid. But is he also into marathons?

Be realistic and plan for just two islands—maybe Bali* or Lombok and another larger one like Flores* or Java*.

* And spend more time there than the quick hops you’re currently planning.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Hope this helps!
FA Facoalfr Veteran ·
Hello, Your itinerary is quite packed, and you’ll spend a lot of time on transportation and transfers. Indonesia is vast and should be savored slowly. You won’t have time to appreciate the people and the constantly changing scenery if you move around so often. Each island is a world of its own.

Even though Bali is very touristy, it’s worth taking the time to visit the temples and stumble upon ceremonies along the way. Skipping Flores to go to Komodo is a shame—it’s an incredible island. With my teens, we spent three weeks crossing it before heading to Komodo. Java is a stunning island, and Yogyakarta is a city that deserves a full week to explore its art, crafts, temples, and surrounding nature. Similarly, it’s a pity to go to Bukit Lawang without exploring that part of Sumatra.

I’d suggest making some choices and visiting fewer spots—pick two islands instead. Safe travels!
RO Rougegorge ·
Thanks for all your feedback! I’ll trim it down to simplify everything! !
SO Songsam Veteran ·
A few air connections if needed:

-Kuala Lumpur-Labuan Bajo 3x/week on AirAsia -Kuala Lumpur-Lombok daily on AirAsia and Batik Air -Singapore-Lombok 4x/week on Scoot -Lombok-Labuan Bajo twice daily on Wings Air Plus daily options from Labuan Bajo and Lombok to Bali and Java. Unfortunately, no more flights from Maumere* to Bali—only 3x/week to Labuan Bajo or daily to Kupang.

* For the highly recommended Flores crossing, Facoalfr isn’t the only one who thinks so.
BA Babouandco ·
Hello,

Indonesia is a beautiful trip that won’t disappoint you!

I also think your itinerary is too ambitious, and you’d be better off focusing on 2-3 islands. You should also account for possible flight cancellations/delays, which are common whenever a volcano starts acting up—and that happens often!

I traveled for 4 weeks this summer (2025), starting with 4 days in Bali, then crossing Flores from Maumere to Labuan Bajo, and finishing with 12 days in Lombok. It was a fantastic trip, and I can send you my travel journal via PM if you’re interested. For flights, we were lucky—just a few delays—but the day before our departure from Labuan Bajo, all flights were canceled...

On Flores, we used shared transportation but met many travelers who had hired a private driver for their stay. We particularly loved Riung and the Bajawa region, while Labuan Bajo felt really out of place compared to the rest of the island.

In Lombok, we had a first driver who was very friendly and a good driver. We hired him again later but negotiated the price. Transportation arranged by guesthouses is always more expensive. We didn’t climb Rinjani—it was planned, but the trails were closed for 10 days during our trip due to several (fatal) accidents. That said, I think it would’ve been ambitious for me. I really wanted to do it, but I’m not sure I could’ve handled 2,000 meters of elevation gain in one day! Still, we spent time at its base—it’s a stunning and welcoming region that deserves exploring village by village if you have the time. The Sekotong peninsula is also great, much less crowded than southern Lombok (Kuta-Selong Belanak), and there are plenty of islands to explore. It’s also cheaper.

I’m not exactly an Indonesia expert, but I’d be happy to answer any questions about the places I’ve visited. We loved our trip—the Indonesians are so friendly, and Sulawesi is on the list for future travels...

Happy planning! !
Babou
RO Rougegorge ·
Hi there!

Thanks for this new message. I’m actually interested in your travel journal, and maybe even the contact details for your driver in Lombok.

My route has evolved quite a bit since our first exchanges on the forum. After refocusing our family’s travel preferences (since you have to make choices, and choosing means letting go!), we’ll likely skip the Labuan Bajo detour and leave Bali quickly to free up more time for Lombok and East Java, and to enjoy North Sumatra at Gunung Leuser without feeling completely rushed. We’ve found an agency ((https://climbindonesia.com/)) that offers some great-looking itineraries for a three-day Rinjani trek and, most excitingly, a two-day Bromo tour that I think would be a refreshing twist on the classic circuit. I’m in touch with them to try and put something together. I don’t have the prices yet, though... :-|

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Lombok!

Have a great day! !
BA Babouandco ·
Hi, The travel journal link was sent via PM! For the driver, we didn’t keep his contact details, but it’s easy to find one there.
Babou
GI Girardinpho Veteran ·
Hello,

In 2012, we took a month-long trip to Java and Bali with our two 13-year-old kids. We decided to stick to just these two islands to avoid rushing around too much.

For Java, we hired a driver through an agency who helped us discover Bromo without too many crowds—we did the tour in the opposite direction of most tourists. We also visited Ijen early in the morning and found it wasn’t too busy. Though that was in 2012, so things may have changed since then. For the kids, we visited Meru Betiri Reserve to see turtles laying eggs. It reminds me I should upload some photos to our site 🤔!

For Bali, we hired an independent driver who showed us the island’s customs and less touristy spots. If you’re interested, I can share his email—hopefully, it’s still valid.

We also went diving around Bali, from north to south, and found the marine life stunning. A few photos here under Photo Gallery - Underwater Photos.

Feel free to ask if you’d like more details! !
Nathalie

Photos et carnets de voyage : http://www.girardinphoto.net
RO Rougegorge ·
Thanks for the new info!

I was also thinking about Meru Betiri Park to see those famous turtles. I’m in touch with an agency that told me it’s still a pretty incredible experience today, especially for kids. Though they wouldn’t exactly say otherwise, would they? How did you feel about it? Did you stay several nights there (I think the hot-spot is Sukamade)? It seems like the road to get there is quite long and a bit adventurous (though that’s part of the journey!)

Have a great day! !
FA Facoalfr Veteran ·
Hi there, I went to see the turtle nesting. Honestly, it’s an unforgettable experience. We took an overnight train from Yogya, and at 5:00 AM we got off the train. We grabbed a Grab right away and headed to a village. We slept for a bit, then set off in a 4x4 for Teluk Ijo beach—a chaotic 2-hour drive. When night fell, we reached the beach: fishermen were out at sea in the distance, the Milky Way was clearly visible, and we witnessed a turtle laying its eggs. We returned the same way. Sure, it was tiring, but magical!
GI Girardinpho Veteran ·
Hello again,

Yes, the excursion is definitely worth it—our kids loved it!

It’s true that the journey is a bit long and adventurous, but we were able to ask our driver for several stops along the way. We made a stop at a cocoa plantation. Another stop in a village that made brown sugar cones—we had a great encounter with the locals. Since we left in the morning, we picnicked in a fishing village around noon. Later on, we took a break at an artisanal rubber factory and another to admire monkeys in the trees. We finally arrived in Sukamade by the end of the day. That evening, we headed to the beach and waited under the stars until the rangers gave us the go-ahead to join them on the shore to watch a turtle lay its eggs. Around 12:30 AM, we went back to our rooms, and the next morning, we helped the rangers release the baby turtles that had hatched during the night into the sea. Oh, and the rangers collect the eggs from the nest to protect them from poaching.

P.S.: We planned our custom trip to Java with Java Exotic.
Nathalie

Photos et carnets de voyage : http://www.girardinphoto.net

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