Conseil d'achat de vélo: Rohloff vs Alfine
by Geobeuh
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour vous,
à l'occasion d'un nouveau boulot je vais m'offrir un vélo de rando pour aller au boulot (environ 40km/jours) et partir en voyage.
J'ai fais mon choix entre deux vélo. Un est financièrement beaucoup peu accessible, il est équipé d'un Rohloff Speedhub 500/14DB (rapport de vitesse 526%)
L'autre est a peu près équivalent mais est équipé d'un Shimano Alfine ((rapport de vitesse 451%) et est bien sur bien moins cher.
Je me demandai si le dévellopement de celui équipé en Alfine est suffisant? (pour le boulot ok c'est plat, mais pour les voyages dans la montagne bien chargé je sais pas) et si vraimennt ca vallait le coup d'acheter un rolloff malgrès le prix?
Avez vous de l'expérience avec le système shimano alfine (en gros un Nexus amélioré + 2 plateau à l'avant pour avoir une gamme de vitesse plus large).
Les rapports de vitesses sont données en % (normal il n'y a pas de pignos classique) mais je n'arrive pas à faire une comparaison avec des vélo avec le système classique, j'aimerai savoir si 451% de dévellopement correspond à un vtt ou pas par exemple.
Toutes infos sont les bienvenues,
Merci.
B.
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Difficile de répondre. J'ai un vélo équipé d'un Rolhoff: 14 vitesses bien étagées, équivalant à un dérailleur 3 plateaux/8 pignons et ce n'est pas qu'un argument publicitaire ! 5000 km déjà, sans un pépin ! C'est cher mais ça vaut son prix.
Je ne connais pas l' autre système de chez Shimano mais le site suivant peut t'apporter quelques éléments de réponse: http://www.provelo.org/spip.php?article919
Bien cordialement,
Je ne connais pas l' autre système de chez Shimano mais le site suivant peut t'apporter quelques éléments de réponse: http://www.provelo.org/spip.php?article919
Bien cordialement,
Merci de ta réponse je vais éplucher cet article....
TU dis que ca corresponds à un 3*8, bon déja c'est une bonne indication.
Pour toi, tu roule chargé? Le dévellopement te semble bon, largement suffisant ou bon mais un peu juste?
(SI c'est un peu juste, le système Alfine, serait trop juste...)
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Le développement du rolhoff est largement suffisant. De plis, on eput encore simplement louer sur le nombre de dents du plateau (le mien en a 39 ) et du pignon (16 dans mon cas), ce qui déplace l'éventail des développements du plus long ou plus court. Le site du constructeur (il existe une version française) détaille d'ailleurs les diverses possibilités.
Salut,
Pour t'éclairer, voici le détail, en braquet plateaux-pignons, des 14 vitesses du Rohloff. 1ere=24X34 (pour grimper aux arbres)1, 44m pour du 26" 2 =24X30 3 =24X26 4 =24X23 5 =24X20 6 =32X23 7 =32X20 8 =32X18 9 =32X16 10 =32X14 11 =44X18 12 =44X16 13 =44X14 14 =44X12 (pour rouler comme un mobylette)7, 56m pour du 26"
Cela fait 14 vrais vitesses avec un travail de chaîne toujours dans l'axe et un rayonnage bien large pour une roue moins fragile. C'est cher et difficilement réparable. Mais bon, pour avoir vu le moyeu en coupe et l'avoir essayé sur un vélo, c'est franchement du très très beau matos 😎
Avoir les moyens pour voir sur le très long terme 😉
@+ Jacques
Pour t'éclairer, voici le détail, en braquet plateaux-pignons, des 14 vitesses du Rohloff. 1ere=24X34 (pour grimper aux arbres)1, 44m pour du 26" 2 =24X30 3 =24X26 4 =24X23 5 =24X20 6 =32X23 7 =32X20 8 =32X18 9 =32X16 10 =32X14 11 =44X18 12 =44X16 13 =44X14 14 =44X12 (pour rouler comme un mobylette)7, 56m pour du 26"
Cela fait 14 vrais vitesses avec un travail de chaîne toujours dans l'axe et un rayonnage bien large pour une roue moins fragile. C'est cher et difficilement réparable. Mais bon, pour avoir vu le moyeu en coupe et l'avoir essayé sur un vélo, c'est franchement du très très beau matos 😎
Avoir les moyens pour voir sur le très long terme 😉
@+ Jacques
Attention, pas multiplier le nombre de vitesses par deux si tu as deux plateaux. Si tu ajoutes des plateaux, il te faudra revoir à la baisse les possibilités maximales de braquets.
Petit détail pour le Rohloff, les dimensions que j'ai donné sont avec un plateau de 40 et pignon de 16
Petit détail pour le Rohloff, les dimensions que j'ai donné sont avec un plateau de 40 et pignon de 16
Moi je dirais attention à l'alfine en rando chargé, car c'est pas fait pour ça!!
Un petit exemple as-tu vu un tandem avec un moyeu alfine?? Pas à ma connaissance. Par contre le Rohloff, il est fait pour ça!!
Ce qui est sur, c'ets que le nexus est pas pour le tandem et le voyage, l'alfine...je sais pas trop...
Bref, si tu hésite, mais que tu as le fric, Rohloff sans hésiter!
Je me suis penché aussi sur l'alfine pour acheter un vélo couché, pareil, y'en a aucun équipé ainsi, et je me suis arrêter au rohloff du coup... Pas encore acheté..Mais j'ai roulé avec un allemand à vélo couché l'année dernière, Après 7 ans d'utilisation, aucun soucis, 70000 kms au compteur...Et les vidanges pas effectués spécialement en temps et en heure!
Je rajouterai une chose: l'avantage du moyeu indexé, c'est quand même de n'avoir qu'un plateau, et un pignon, comme un single speed, et bien si tu rajoute un deuxième plateau avec le alfine, ça te fais de nouvelles contraintes, un dérailleur de plus...
Affaire à suivre, très intéressant cette conversation!!
Peut être que je me plante, a vous de me le dire!😛
Bref, si tu hésite, mais que tu as le fric, Rohloff sans hésiter!
Je me suis penché aussi sur l'alfine pour acheter un vélo couché, pareil, y'en a aucun équipé ainsi, et je me suis arrêter au rohloff du coup... Pas encore acheté..Mais j'ai roulé avec un allemand à vélo couché l'année dernière, Après 7 ans d'utilisation, aucun soucis, 70000 kms au compteur...Et les vidanges pas effectués spécialement en temps et en heure!
Je rajouterai une chose: l'avantage du moyeu indexé, c'est quand même de n'avoir qu'un plateau, et un pignon, comme un single speed, et bien si tu rajoute un deuxième plateau avec le alfine, ça te fais de nouvelles contraintes, un dérailleur de plus...
Affaire à suivre, très intéressant cette conversation!!
Peut être que je me plante, a vous de me le dire!😛
Encor emerci pour vos réponses.
Sinon oui c'est ce que je me dis aussi,
quitte a avoir un moyeu à vitesse autant prendre celui où on n'a pas besoin de plateaux, cela rends le système alfine un peu "boiteux". DOnc si on reste dans l'esprit "incassable 100% fiable" il faut le rolhoff, car pas de galets, de plateaux de déviation de chaine etc... Pour l'ALfine autant prendre peut être un dérailleur à la pointe. Mais bon c'est le prix du ROlhoff....
En plus au niveau communication de SHimano, je les soupçone de faire passer l'ALfine comme un truc tout nouveau, alors qu'il me smeble que c'est un NExus avex deux plateaux et basta....
Pour ceux que ça interresse, je fais de la pub pour le shop qui vends ces vélo, http://www.fr.simpel.ch, de très belles bêtes particulièrement bien conçu pour les trajets quotidiens et les voyage, et leur système de vente sur internet est bien (on peu échanger des pièces, par exemple vous voulez un Brooks pré-ages? Vous rajoutez environ 25 euros et c'est bon!)
Pour ceux que ça interresse, je fais de la pub pour le shop qui vends ces vélo, http://www.fr.simpel.ch, de très belles bêtes particulièrement bien conçu pour les trajets quotidiens et les voyage, et leur système de vente sur internet est bien (on peu échanger des pièces, par exemple vous voulez un Brooks pré-ages? Vous rajoutez environ 25 euros et c'est bon!)
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Concernant le shifter de changement de vitesse, est-ce qu'on a le choix ou est-on obligé de prendre la poignée tournante ? Sur un guidon course ça doit pas être terrible non ?
Quel est le principe d'ailleur ?
Quel est le principe d'ailleur ?
La date de la dernière remarque est sans doute un peu lointaine mais je vais continuer tout de même sur le sujet du Rohloff. Après tout ce que j'ai lu, entre autre ici, j'ai craqué et me voici en tout nouvel utilisateur de cette mécanique. Autant le dire de suite, je suis dans la phase "doute" car en plus je l'ai fait installé sur un bent "fujin SL 2" alors je cumule les deux découvertes et le double d'apprentissage. Heureusement je pense être assez bien préparé à cette période délicate. Les premières sensations ne sont pas trop positives : il y a le bruit et les performances ne sont pas encore à la hauteur. par contre coté démarrage en montée le fait de pouvoir changer de vitesse même à l'arrêt c'est un super atout
bien mal à qui ne profite jamais
voici quelques compléments d'information intéressants sur le site du fameux sheldown brown
une page générale sur les transmissions
http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html
une page générale sur les moyeux à vitesses intégrées : ne contient pas d'info sur la transmission à variation continue NuVenci
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/internal-gears.html
la transmission à variation continue NuVenci
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/nuvinci.html
un calculateur pour connaître les rapports d'amplification en fonction de : nombres de plateaux avants et leurs dimensions dimension du pignon arrière type de moyeux
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/internal.html
un calculateur pour connaître les rapports d'amplification sur un système classique :
http://sheldonbrown.com/braquets/index.html
avec les 2 calculateurs on peut ainsi trouver la combinaison équivalente à un système classique à cassettes et plateaux
la page pour acheter :
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/hubs-internal.html
je retire de la lecture que le moyeu à vitesses intégrées: est plus fiable demande moins d'entretien on peut élargir la gamme de vitesse en combinant ce qu'il faut comme plateaux à l'avant et comme pignon à l'arrière on peut changer de vitesse à l'arrêt il existe des adaptateurs pour guidon course la gamme de prix 170 $ Sturmey 8 vitesses 230 $ Shimano 8 vitesses 350 $ Sram 8 vitesses 440 $ NuVenci à variation continue 1300 $ Rohloff 14 vitesses sram fait un système qui combine une cassette 8 ou 9 vitesses avec un moyeu à 3 vitesses
une page générale sur les transmissions
http://sheldonbrown.com/gearing/index.html
une page générale sur les moyeux à vitesses intégrées : ne contient pas d'info sur la transmission à variation continue NuVenci
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/internal-gears.html
la transmission à variation continue NuVenci
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/nuvinci.html
un calculateur pour connaître les rapports d'amplification en fonction de : nombres de plateaux avants et leurs dimensions dimension du pignon arrière type de moyeux
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/internal.html
un calculateur pour connaître les rapports d'amplification sur un système classique :
http://sheldonbrown.com/braquets/index.html
avec les 2 calculateurs on peut ainsi trouver la combinaison équivalente à un système classique à cassettes et plateaux
la page pour acheter :
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/hubs-internal.html
je retire de la lecture que le moyeu à vitesses intégrées: est plus fiable demande moins d'entretien on peut élargir la gamme de vitesse en combinant ce qu'il faut comme plateaux à l'avant et comme pignon à l'arrière on peut changer de vitesse à l'arrêt il existe des adaptateurs pour guidon course la gamme de prix 170 $ Sturmey 8 vitesses 230 $ Shimano 8 vitesses 350 $ Sram 8 vitesses 440 $ NuVenci à variation continue 1300 $ Rohloff 14 vitesses sram fait un système qui combine une cassette 8 ou 9 vitesses avec un moyeu à 3 vitesses
idem
après 2 mois d'utilisation je ne suis pas conquis par le système
certes passer les vitesses a l'arrêt est agreable mais je trouve que rohloff n'est pas adapte pour les montées en pente ardue (avis personnel) plus de difficulté qu'un 21 vitesses de plus le bruit est plus que désagréable
bon on verra dans le temps
La date de la dernière remarque est sans doute un peu lointaine mais je vais continuer tout de même sur le sujet du Rohloff. Après tout ce que j'ai lu, entre autre ici, j'ai craqué et me voici en tout nouvel utilisateur de cette mécanique. Autant le dire de suite, je suis dans la phase "doute" car en plus je l'ai fait installé sur un bent "fujin SL 2" alors je cumule les deux découvertes et le double d'apprentissage. Heureusement je pense être assez bien préparé à cette période délicate. Les premières sensations ne sont pas trop positives : il y a le bruit et les performances ne sont pas encore à la hauteur. par contre coté démarrage en montée le fait de pouvoir changer de vitesse même à l'arrêt c'est un super atout
La date de la dernière remarque est sans doute un peu lointaine mais je vais continuer tout de même sur le sujet du Rohloff. Après tout ce que j'ai lu, entre autre ici, j'ai craqué et me voici en tout nouvel utilisateur de cette mécanique. Autant le dire de suite, je suis dans la phase "doute" car en plus je l'ai fait installé sur un bent "fujin SL 2" alors je cumule les deux découvertes et le double d'apprentissage. Heureusement je pense être assez bien préparé à cette période délicate. Les premières sensations ne sont pas trop positives : il y a le bruit et les performances ne sont pas encore à la hauteur. par contre coté démarrage en montée le fait de pouvoir changer de vitesse même à l'arrêt c'est un super atout
oui il y a un peu de bruit sur la 7e vitesse quand tout les pignons tournes mais pas sur les autres et cela s'estompe après le rodage, et surtout surtout la sensation de perte de rendement, la après 1000km je ne vois pas la différence de rendement avec un dérailleur normal de bonne qualité, mis à part la régularité des vitesses, la fiabilité et le changement de vitesse ultra précis et rapide du rohloff...
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En quoi le Rohloff te paraît-il moins adapté à un "21 v." dans les "pentes ardues" ?
Difficulté inhérente au rodage ou sensation tjrs d'actualité malgré les kms parcourus ?
As-tu monté avec le Rohloff des pignon/plateau te permettant de retrouver la "plage" de tes 21 v. ?
je trouve que rohloff n'est pas adapte pour les montées en pente ardue (avis personnel) plus de difficulté qu'un 21 vitesses
Difficulté inhérente au rodage ou sensation tjrs d'actualité malgré les kms parcourus ?
As-tu monté avec le Rohloff des pignon/plateau te permettant de retrouver la "plage" de tes 21 v. ?
je trouve que rohloff n'est pas adapte pour les montées en pente ardue (avis personnel) plus de difficulté qu'un 21 vitesses
Après une période assez négative et aussi un changement de chaîne (reprise de celle d'origine) et une vérification de la transmission, j'ai une légère amélioration de la "roulance" et une baisse du bruit qui était présent à tous les rapports. je suis très impatient des améliorations après le rodage… et aussi de ma propre progression musculaire. Demain direction Allègre (63) pour le rassemblement de bent
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Hello,
Tout comme Viecool après avoir écumà tous les messsages du forum qui traite de la question, il y a eu passage à l'acte. J'ai donc équipé mon Trike Ice Qnt du moyeu Rohloff avec le pignon d'origine et un plateau 44 dents. Pour tester la bête nous revenons d'un tour de Corse ce qui m'a permis de voir ce que ça valait en descente et surtout en montée :)
Le bruit est manifeste sur les 7 premieres vitesses mais franchement y a pas de quoi être affolé. Mais ce jugement est très subjectif cela dépend de chacun. C'est sur qu'à côté de mon hybride BMC ultra silencieux ca jure un peu, mais c'est un joli bruit de mécanique qui s'apparente bcp à un bruit de roue libre. Rien d'extra ordinaire en fait. Le passage de vitesse à l'arret est un outil fantastique surtout en côte. Le passage de vitesse pendant l'effort est plus délicat il faut relacher la pression sur les pédales une fractionde seconde pour passer la vitesse.
Niveau développement la plage de vitesse est largement satisfaisante et qd on passe une vitesse on la sent bien, c'est pas comme avec un dérailleur classique ou on cherche souvant le bon pignon en sautant les vitesses parfosi 2 par 2.
Enfin un gros atout a mes yeux la simplicité extrème du train de chaine. Le rohloff m'a conquis. Ca reste très cher, c'est de la belle mécanique mais à chaque tour de pédale le moyeux vous le rend bien et ça c'est un réel plaisir.
Simon.
Tout comme Viecool après avoir écumà tous les messsages du forum qui traite de la question, il y a eu passage à l'acte. J'ai donc équipé mon Trike Ice Qnt du moyeu Rohloff avec le pignon d'origine et un plateau 44 dents. Pour tester la bête nous revenons d'un tour de Corse ce qui m'a permis de voir ce que ça valait en descente et surtout en montée :)
Le bruit est manifeste sur les 7 premieres vitesses mais franchement y a pas de quoi être affolé. Mais ce jugement est très subjectif cela dépend de chacun. C'est sur qu'à côté de mon hybride BMC ultra silencieux ca jure un peu, mais c'est un joli bruit de mécanique qui s'apparente bcp à un bruit de roue libre. Rien d'extra ordinaire en fait. Le passage de vitesse à l'arret est un outil fantastique surtout en côte. Le passage de vitesse pendant l'effort est plus délicat il faut relacher la pression sur les pédales une fractionde seconde pour passer la vitesse.
Niveau développement la plage de vitesse est largement satisfaisante et qd on passe une vitesse on la sent bien, c'est pas comme avec un dérailleur classique ou on cherche souvant le bon pignon en sautant les vitesses parfosi 2 par 2.
Enfin un gros atout a mes yeux la simplicité extrème du train de chaine. Le rohloff m'a conquis. Ca reste très cher, c'est de la belle mécanique mais à chaque tour de pédale le moyeux vous le rend bien et ça c'est un réel plaisir.
Simon.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
Tout juste rentré de deux petits jours à Allègre, cette virée expresse est déjà prometteuse pour certaines améliorations sur l'ensemble Fujin/Rohlloff. Il y a des As du vélo dans ce rassemblement. Après une rapide expertise du vélo et une légère modification le rendement est déjà amélioré. En néophyte que je suis j'ai aussi reçu avec indulgence les conseils d'usage et les encouragements en ce qui concerne la progression après rodage et surtout après ma propre amélioration physique. Coté convivialité c'est extra de rencontrer autant de personnages sympas, ouverts, compétents et ingénieux…certainement qu'il sortira de tous ces cerveaux de grandes améliorations pour les bents, les auto-constructions sont époustouflantes. Chaque réalisation mérite un dossier spécial. Comme Sims, je confirme que le passage des vitesses à l'arrêt est une grande simplification surtout pour débuter. Pour le bruit je suis plus gêné et moins tolérant, je me passerais largement du ronflement des 7 premiers rapports.
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I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance