Norvège à vélo: quelle section par train?
by Antoinestg
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Parti depuis 3 semaines de france en velo couche, je me rends compte que j'avance moins vite que prevu. Actuelement au danemark, l'objectif est maintenant de rejoindre la suede, remonter la norvege et redescendre par la finlande, etc.
Je n'aurais pas le temps (le courage ?) de me faire toutes les cotes a velo d'oslo a bergen puis aux lofoten (ca, j'y tiens)
Quelqu'un a t il une suggestion a me faire pour prendre le train sur une section, peut etre le moins beau ou la ou ca monte vraiment dur.
Oslo-bergen ? Bergen-Trondheim ? Trondheim-Lofoten ?
Merci d'avance
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Ton itinéraire me laisse songeur et nostalgique d'une époque qui commence à se faire lointaine... Ayant effectué mon service national à Berlin, j'avais choisi, avec les autorisations des autorités militaires de l'époque, d'effectuer mon retour à la vie civile par mes propres moyens, à savoir retourner en terre grenobloise depuis cette grande cité européenne en passant par le Cap Nord... Trois mois de voyage à travers les pays scandinaves, l'Allemagne, les Pays-Bas, la Belgique, le Luxemboug et enfin la France. Je n'avais pas d'itinéraire précis et j'avais surtout le temps, chose plus qu'appréciable et qui me fait si cruellement défaut aujourd'hui...
Si le parcours fut facile à travers la Finlande (attention aux moustiques !!!), le parcours en Norvège devint plus compliqué. L'avantage de rouler là-haut l'été est la permanence du jour qui te permet de prévoir des étapes très longues dans le temps. L'avantage de rouler la nuit permet de voir des quantités d'animaux (élans, rennes...). L'inconvénient majeur réside dans le fait que les routes de Norvège suivent les côtes et leur fameux et magnifiques fjords, tu peux donc parfois rouler en 150 et 200 km dans une journée en direction du sud (c'est le sens que j'avais choisi) et n'avoir fait parfois que 50 ou 60 km dans cette direction... Certes j'avais le temps mais quand même... Alors j'avais opté pour l'Express Côtier et m'étais procuré un Pass (je crois que cela existe encore, à voir sur le site Hurtigrute) qui m'a permis pendant un mois d'aller et venir le long de cette côte plus que découpée, j'organisais mes étapes en fonction des bateaux qui longent la côte. Ils ont beaucoup évolué depuis mon dernier passage et les vieux rafiots ont laissé place à de luxueux bateaux de croisière où tu pourras tout à ton aise ranger ton vélo couché et gouter à la vie du bord.
J'ai eu recours au train à deux occasions sur tout mon parcours, une fois le long de la voie ferrée Oslo -Bergen, le long de la Rallarwegen (route d'entretien de la même voie ferrée qui n'est autorisée qu'à la seule circulation des véhicules d'entretien, au vélos, aux chevaux et aux piétons.
Entre Gol et Voss, le route plus ou moins carrossable s'élève jusqu'à environ 1600m d'altitude et reste un endroit à ne pas manquer. La seconde fois pour quitter Oslo jusqu'à Drammen afin de laisser plus vitte derrière moi l'agitation de cette grande ville du Nord. Je ne connais pas la moyenne que l'on peut faire en VC, j'en ai deux mais n'ai pas encore eu le loisir de les essayer en cyclocamping, tout au plus ai-je eu le temps de dépasser les 120 km deux jours de suite, et encore avec pour seul chargement une sacoche sur le porte-bagages. En ce qui concerne tes questions, essaie de rallier Bergen depuis Oslo à vélo, la route est superbe et tu auras le temps de réfléchir à cette Rallarwegen qu'il ne faut pas manquer... Puis à Bergen, renseigne toi sur les possibilités de monter au nord en bateau avec l'express côtier... Si tu n'envisages pas de monter jusqu'au Cap Nord, tu peux toujours récupérer la Suède et la Finlande un peu au-dessus de Narvik (accessible en bateau rapide depuis Svolvaer dans les Lofoten). Si tu choisis de monter jusqu'au Cap Nord, la route depuis Honnigvag en direction du sud est superbe jusqu'à Karasjok, de là tu as le choix entre la droite et la gauche, moi je prendrais à gauche direction Inari... mais tout étant sublime... tu n'as en fait que l'embarras du choix, alos si tu as le temps.
je reste à ton entière disposition pour plus de précision, j'ai même ressorti les cartes pour la rédaction du message.
Fais attention à toi et surtout n'hésite pas...
Bonnes pédalées.
Merci pour cette longue reponse
je pense en effet rejoindre bergen a velo, c'est la que mon camarade m'abandonnera. est ce cette route la rallarwegen ?
Pour la suite on verra. j'avais exclu le bateau car je crois que c'est rellement cher. je vais qd meme reetudier la question
bon courage a toi
Je ne m'attendais pas à une réponse aussi rapide mais j'oublie trop souvent quue l'on trouve des points internet un peu partout, à fortiori dans les pays nordiques qui passent pour être les mieux équipés en ce domaine.
Des précisions sur la rallarwegen : je pense que tu vas remonter vers Bergen depuis Oslo via Honefoss, Gol, Geilo. L"embranchement de cette route se prend en fait à Haugastol (comme je te le disais, j'ai ressorti les cartes pour l'occasion), de là il te faudra partir vers Finse. La route suit la voie ferrée Oslo-Bergen, je me souviens d'un bon chemin où rouler en vélo droit était relativement facile, quant à le faire en VC. la route longe toute une série de petits lacs où je me souviens avoir pris l'eau pour boire. tu auras à ta main gauche le massif de la Hardangervidda et le glacier Hardanger à Finse, c'est le toît de la Norvège. Tu trouveras certainement une mine de renseignements à l'OT de Haugastol. Depuis Finse, la route continue dans la vallée jusqu'à Myrdal où il te faudra prendre un bout de trainjusau'à mjolfjell où tu retrouveras la route qui te fera descendre à Voss, et de là la route qui t'emmènera à Bergen. Attention aux tunnels nombreux sur ce tronçon et pas toujours autorisés aux vélos. Moi à l'époque je roulais la nuit, façon de parler, et les traversais sans rien demander, avec un bon éclairage, je me souviens que ça passait mais les temps ont peut-êter changé et les autorités ont peut-être installé des panneuax réglementant l'accès à ces tunnels. Sois donc, ou plutot soyez très prudents !!! Variante à Myrdal : tu as la possibilité de suivre la voie ferrée vers Flam (c'est un coin bien touristique, car la voie ferée est fort pentue et plonge littéralement sur Flam.)
Bonne pédalée soyez prudents. A+
salut, je réponds peut être un peu trop tard mais on ne sait jamais...
J'ai fait la Norvège à vélo en 2005, en vélo droit avec une carriole. Je fais aussi un vélo couché, et j'ai remarqué qu'effectivement on va un peu moins vite surtout si on est chargé!
On avait 3 semaines pour rouler et visiter à la fois. Donc on est parti d'Oslo en train jusqu'à Geilo pour faire le Rallarwagen. Le trajet Oslo-Geilo étant moyennement interessant. Ensuite on avait prévu de faire tout le Rallarwagen jusqu'à Bergen mais le printemps ayant été tardif, la route était toujours coupée par la neige juste après Finse, le point le plus haut de l'itinéraire. Donc on a dû reprendre un train (qu'on a attendu 5h.... il en passe pas toute la journée) pour rejoindre l'étape suivante 5 ou 10 km plus loin.
Après Bergen on a suivi la côte jusqu'à Alesund. Comme les dénivellés sont pas très importants, on faisait environ 70 à 80 km/jours. Les paysages sont très en couleurs, on est tout le temps entre la terre et la mer, et on ne sait jamais si c'est la mer ou un lac.... En plus il faisait beau!
A Alesund on est allé prendre un train jusqu'à Bode via Trondheim. C'était le seul moyen de faire les Lofoten dans le temps imparti. J'ai entendu dire par des cyclotouristes rencontrés au hasard du voyage, que la partie Tronheim/Bode est extrêmement sauvage voire austère si la météo n'y met pas du sien.
On a fait les Lofoten en 4 jours (avec un soleil de Côte d'Azur) et on est revenu sur Oslo en avion. On avait prévu de descendre au sud faire le canal du Telemark.
En matière de transports en Norvège, l'avion et le train se valent totalement au niveau du prix. Les compagnies aériennes sont habituées à transporter des tas de trucs qui ne ressemblent pas à des valises donc pas de souci pour embarquer les vélos, sans surpoids, sans démontage. Dans le train, le vélo est soumis à un surcoût forfaitaire, de l'ordre de 7 ou 10 euros et tous les trains prennent les vélos dans un wagon fourgon. Il existe un pass Scandinavie qui permet de payer le train moins cher et qui se trouve sur internet.
Enfin, à 0slo tu trouveras à l'association de cyclistes nationale à Oslo une carte avec les itinéraires vélos et balisés dans tout le pays. elle est très utile en la combinant avec une carte routière classique. Les horaires de travail des norvegiens ne sont certainement pas plus élargis que ceux des français (n'y voyez pas une polémique sur la remise en cause des 35 h!!) dans la semaine donc nous avons un peu galéré pour trouver cette carte et nous sommes tombés dessus par hasard à l'office de tourisme à Geilo!
Enfin les tunnels sont réellement un obstacle et sont généralement interdits aux vélos. Le ministère des transports édite un guide gratuit qui recense tous les tunnels et l'interdiction/autorisation qui s'applique. L'assoc de cyclistes l'aura certainement, et peut être même dans les points de renseignements touristiques à Oslo.
bon voyage!
J'ai fait la Norvège à vélo en 2005, en vélo droit avec une carriole. Je fais aussi un vélo couché, et j'ai remarqué qu'effectivement on va un peu moins vite surtout si on est chargé!
On avait 3 semaines pour rouler et visiter à la fois. Donc on est parti d'Oslo en train jusqu'à Geilo pour faire le Rallarwagen. Le trajet Oslo-Geilo étant moyennement interessant. Ensuite on avait prévu de faire tout le Rallarwagen jusqu'à Bergen mais le printemps ayant été tardif, la route était toujours coupée par la neige juste après Finse, le point le plus haut de l'itinéraire. Donc on a dû reprendre un train (qu'on a attendu 5h.... il en passe pas toute la journée) pour rejoindre l'étape suivante 5 ou 10 km plus loin.
Après Bergen on a suivi la côte jusqu'à Alesund. Comme les dénivellés sont pas très importants, on faisait environ 70 à 80 km/jours. Les paysages sont très en couleurs, on est tout le temps entre la terre et la mer, et on ne sait jamais si c'est la mer ou un lac.... En plus il faisait beau!
A Alesund on est allé prendre un train jusqu'à Bode via Trondheim. C'était le seul moyen de faire les Lofoten dans le temps imparti. J'ai entendu dire par des cyclotouristes rencontrés au hasard du voyage, que la partie Tronheim/Bode est extrêmement sauvage voire austère si la météo n'y met pas du sien.
On a fait les Lofoten en 4 jours (avec un soleil de Côte d'Azur) et on est revenu sur Oslo en avion. On avait prévu de descendre au sud faire le canal du Telemark.
En matière de transports en Norvège, l'avion et le train se valent totalement au niveau du prix. Les compagnies aériennes sont habituées à transporter des tas de trucs qui ne ressemblent pas à des valises donc pas de souci pour embarquer les vélos, sans surpoids, sans démontage. Dans le train, le vélo est soumis à un surcoût forfaitaire, de l'ordre de 7 ou 10 euros et tous les trains prennent les vélos dans un wagon fourgon. Il existe un pass Scandinavie qui permet de payer le train moins cher et qui se trouve sur internet.
Enfin, à 0slo tu trouveras à l'association de cyclistes nationale à Oslo une carte avec les itinéraires vélos et balisés dans tout le pays. elle est très utile en la combinant avec une carte routière classique. Les horaires de travail des norvegiens ne sont certainement pas plus élargis que ceux des français (n'y voyez pas une polémique sur la remise en cause des 35 h!!) dans la semaine donc nous avons un peu galéré pour trouver cette carte et nous sommes tombés dessus par hasard à l'office de tourisme à Geilo!
Enfin les tunnels sont réellement un obstacle et sont généralement interdits aux vélos. Le ministère des transports édite un guide gratuit qui recense tous les tunnels et l'interdiction/autorisation qui s'applique. L'assoc de cyclistes l'aura certainement, et peut être même dans les points de renseignements touristiques à Oslo.
bon voyage!
Merci pour tous les conseils
On s'est veritablement regale le long du rallanvegen avec un bon soleil et meme si la piste est assez difficile pour nos velos couches.
On a pris le train voss bergen car la circulation est assez dense.
et puis pour rattraper le retard, j'ai pris le ferry jusqu'aux lofoten. Debut de la nouvelle aventure demain...
Bonjour
Quelques questions suite á ton message. Concernant le trajet entre Bergen et Alesund., tu dis que le dénivelé n'est pas très important. Peux-tu détailler un peu : quelle moyenne dans la journée ? Quel itinéraire ass-tu suivi (je crois qu'il y a à partir de Bergen pas mal de routes). Sur la Rallervegen, à combien estimes-tu le dénivellé entre Geilo et Finse ?
Enfin, tu parles de l'office national des cyclistes á Oslo. aurais-tu leur adresse (pas trouvé sur le web) ?
Merci
Cécile
Quelques questions suite á ton message. Concernant le trajet entre Bergen et Alesund., tu dis que le dénivelé n'est pas très important. Peux-tu détailler un peu : quelle moyenne dans la journée ? Quel itinéraire ass-tu suivi (je crois qu'il y a à partir de Bergen pas mal de routes). Sur la Rallervegen, à combien estimes-tu le dénivellé entre Geilo et Finse ?
Enfin, tu parles de l'office national des cyclistes á Oslo. aurais-tu leur adresse (pas trouvé sur le web) ?
Merci
Cécile
Salut,
Il faut que je fasse appel à mes souvenirs, on n'a pas tenu de carnet de route si précis;
En moyenne on roulait 70 à 80 km /jours mais nous sommes restés près de la mer. Il existe un autre itinéraire qui passe par la montagne, cette très longue route en lacet dont j'ai oublié le nom et la "route des cascades". Celui-là présente des déniv bcp plus importants et nous ne l'avons pas pris à cause de la météo qui s'annonçait mauvaises.
La route que nous avons suivie est balisée comme itinéraire vélo, elle suit la mer presque au plus près (par Floro entre autre).
Pour ce qui est de l'assoc nationale des cyclistes, tu trouveras leur coordonnées dans les guides Lonely (c'est sûr) et Routard (certainement).
Désolée, je n'ai plus ces infos sous la main pour pouvoir être plus précise.....mais j'espère que ça te sera quand même utile
Pour ce qui est de l'assoc nationale des cyclistes, tu trouveras leur coordonnées dans les guides Lonely (c'est sûr) et Routard (certainement).
Désolée, je n'ai plus ces infos sous la main pour pouvoir être plus précise.....mais j'espère que ça te sera quand même utile
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I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
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We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
Je voulais savoir si il etait possible d'aller de Tashkent à Almaty en train sans passer par le Kirkistan. On m'a dit que la frontière etait souvent fermee 😕 entre ces l'ouzbekistan et le kazakhstan
merci d'avance
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
J'aimerais aller à Montserrat par moi même de Barcelone. Donnez moi vos suggestion.
Quel train prendre, où descendre, quoi voire une fois arrivé, etc
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hi there,
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)