Voila, on part en asie du sud est mi novembre pour 3 semaines...J'aurais aimé faire une arrivée sur bangkok puis direction le cambodge avec angkor notamment, Ho Chi Minh, Hue, Hoi an, Hanoi, Baie d Along, puis retour sur Chiang Mai Par le Laos, pour finir sur les plages du sud de la Thailande. Je sais ça fait des bornes et j aimerais faire un maximum de bus(de nuit tant qu'a faire). Qu'en pensez vous? Y a t il des étapes hors des sentiers battus que vous avez particulierement apprécié? Merci d'avance pour tous vos conseils
Asie du Sud-Est en novembre: étapes hors des sentiers battus?
by Jperez27
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Voila, on part en asie du sud est mi novembre pour 3 semaines...J'aurais aimé faire une arrivée sur bangkok puis direction le cambodge avec angkor notamment, Ho Chi Minh, Hue, Hoi an, Hanoi, Baie d Along, puis retour sur Chiang Mai Par le Laos, pour finir sur les plages du sud de la Thailande. Je sais ça fait des bornes et j aimerais faire un maximum de bus(de nuit tant qu'a faire). Qu'en pensez vous? Y a t il des étapes hors des sentiers battus que vous avez particulierement apprécié? Merci d'avance pour tous vos conseils
Voila, on part en asie du sud est mi novembre pour 3 semaines...J'aurais aimé faire une arrivée sur bangkok puis direction le cambodge avec angkor notamment, Ho Chi Minh, Hue, Hoi an, Hanoi, Baie d Along, puis retour sur Chiang Mai Par le Laos, pour finir sur les plages du sud de la Thailande. Je sais ça fait des bornes et j aimerais faire un maximum de bus(de nuit tant qu'a faire). Qu'en pensez vous? Y a t il des étapes hors des sentiers battus que vous avez particulierement apprécié? Merci d'avance pour tous vos conseils
4 pays en 3 semaines ?
Qu'en pensez vous?
Que tu devrais rajouter 2 ou 3 pays pour mieux en profiter...
Qu'en pensez vous?
Que tu devrais rajouter 2 ou 3 pays pour mieux en profiter...
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
le laos c juste un passage pr aller sur le nord de la thailande
le cambodge y a juste angkor
3 semaines, pas plus d'une partie d'un pays
on fait bien des circuits en agence de 10 jours en thailande ou au vietnam
dc c ke c faisable, jveux pas squatter les endroits mais voir un max de choses...
Ouais, la manie du zapping, comme si sur VF on se calait sur les circuits organisés où on ne voit pas grand chose sinon ses compagnons de voyage.
Mais bon, voyage comme tu l'entends 😛
Je sais ça fait des bornes et j aimerais faire un maximum de bus(de nuit tant qu'a faire).
Qu'en pensez vous?
Y a t il des étapes hors des sentiers battus que vous avez particulierement apprécié?
Bonjour,
Oui ça fait énormément des bornes, même les japonais à mon avis ne l'ont pas fait enfin c'est un choix .
Pour les visas il n'y que le Vietnam que tu dois avoir avant d'arriver donc le réserver en France d'avance sinon le faire faire à Bangkok = 2 jours ou 3 trois de perdu .
Surtout pas la peine de demander des étapes hors sentier tu n'en auras pas le temps .
Bonne course et renseigne toi pour les bus de nuit, pas évident tu nous diras tout ça à ton retour dont à mon avis tu ne feras pas la moitié de ton projet en 3 semaines, comme l'émission "" Faut pas rêver "" .
Bon courage, faisable mais ?? bon trip quand même . 😉
Bonjour,
Oui ça fait énormément des bornes, même les japonais à mon avis ne l'ont pas fait enfin c'est un choix .
Pour les visas il n'y que le Vietnam que tu dois avoir avant d'arriver donc le réserver en France d'avance sinon le faire faire à Bangkok = 2 jours ou 3 trois de perdu .
Surtout pas la peine de demander des étapes hors sentier tu n'en auras pas le temps .
Bonne course et renseigne toi pour les bus de nuit, pas évident tu nous diras tout ça à ton retour dont à mon avis tu ne feras pas la moitié de ton projet en 3 semaines, comme l'émission "" Faut pas rêver "" .
Bon courage, faisable mais ?? bon trip quand même . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bonsoir🙂,
C'est certain, comme déjà mentionné par les autres intervenants, que vous allez voir de la route, voir de la route et voir de la route...😛
le cambodge y a juste angkor
Est-ce une affirmation ? Ou simplement vous décrivez l'étape "cambodgienne" de votre périple ?😕
Si c'est une affirmation, elle est du même niveau que : "La France y a juste les châteaux de la Loire". En gros, c'est extrêmement réducteur et c'est dommage😕😕😕.
Cela étant, pour le reste, tout a été écrit. Vous verrez un maximum de choses en un minimum de temps, cela s'appelle un diaporama😛 !
Bon voyage !
Cordialement, Ugolin70
C'est certain, comme déjà mentionné par les autres intervenants, que vous allez voir de la route, voir de la route et voir de la route...😛
le cambodge y a juste angkor
Est-ce une affirmation ? Ou simplement vous décrivez l'étape "cambodgienne" de votre périple ?😕
Si c'est une affirmation, elle est du même niveau que : "La France y a juste les châteaux de la Loire". En gros, c'est extrêmement réducteur et c'est dommage😕😕😕.
Cela étant, pour le reste, tout a été écrit. Vous verrez un maximum de choses en un minimum de temps, cela s'appelle un diaporama😛 !
Bon voyage !
Cordialement, Ugolin70
Prends un vol Bkk/Hanoi (pas bien cher je pense avec Air Asia), puis déscente par la route jusqu'à Saigon en une douzaine de jours.
Ensuite tu remontes jusqu'à Phom Penh en bus et bateau pour Siem Reap et Angkor. De là tu regagnes la Thailande en bateau/bus ou direct en bus jusqu'à Bangkok, et tu vas reprendre ton souffle 2/3 jours sur l'île de Koh Chang (près de la frontière cambodgienne).
En 3 semaines, c'est "short" mais faisable. Maintenant, de là à sortir des "sentiers battus", comme tu le souhaites, faut quand même pas pousser... 😉 surtout avec les villes/étapes que t'as séléctionnées, mais qui méritent, celà étant, qu'on s'y arrète: angkor notamment, Ho Chi Minh, Hue, Hoi an, Hanoi, Baie d Along,
Enfin pour les îles du sud de la Thailande, je pense qu'il est préférable de remettre ça à une prochaine fois, car n'oublie pas que lorsqu'on veut tout voir, on ne regarde rien... (p'tit proverbe haut-savoyard que je viens d'inventer et que je trouve pas mal, non ??? ah bon... 😏😏😏)
Bon voyage
En 3 semaines, c'est "short" mais faisable. Maintenant, de là à sortir des "sentiers battus", comme tu le souhaites, faut quand même pas pousser... 😉 surtout avec les villes/étapes que t'as séléctionnées, mais qui méritent, celà étant, qu'on s'y arrète: angkor notamment, Ho Chi Minh, Hue, Hoi an, Hanoi, Baie d Along,
Enfin pour les îles du sud de la Thailande, je pense qu'il est préférable de remettre ça à une prochaine fois, car n'oublie pas que lorsqu'on veut tout voir, on ne regarde rien... (p'tit proverbe haut-savoyard que je viens d'inventer et que je trouve pas mal, non ??? ah bon... 😏😏😏)
Bon voyage
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
Lorsqu'on veut tout voir, on ne regarde rien... (p'tit proverbe haut-savoyard que je viens d'inventer et que je trouve pas mal, non ??? ah bon... )
Super et si bien dit.
Si tu en as d'autres comme ca, je suis preneuse 😏😏😏😏
Super et si bien dit.
Si tu en as d'autres comme ca, je suis preneuse 😏😏😏😏
Hello,
Sincerement, je suis de l'avis des autres. C'est de l'utopie a moins de prendre des avions et de te contenter d'un safari photos.
Meme avec les bus de nuit, c'est du delire ton idee. Tu vas courir le jour et peu dormir la nuit.
Pour le "hors sentier battus", oublie tout de suite. Aller hors sentiers battus necessite soit la location d'un motobyke, soit prendre un guide. Vu le peu de temps dont tu disposes, c'est quasi impossible. De toute facon, vu la maniere dont tu concois ton voyage, qu'irais-tu faire hors des sentiers battus ??? Prendre le temps de connaitre la population ? Tu ne l'auras pas.
Mets-toi bien en tete que l'on ne roule pas a plus de 50 km/h de moyenne (la nuit) et que les distances que tu veux parcourir sont de plusieurs milliers de km.
Si tu as un truc pour voler plus vite que la navette spaciale, je suis preneuse 😉
Une adresse, peut etre ICI
Good luck, Pat
Sincerement, je suis de l'avis des autres. C'est de l'utopie a moins de prendre des avions et de te contenter d'un safari photos.
Meme avec les bus de nuit, c'est du delire ton idee. Tu vas courir le jour et peu dormir la nuit.
Pour le "hors sentier battus", oublie tout de suite. Aller hors sentiers battus necessite soit la location d'un motobyke, soit prendre un guide. Vu le peu de temps dont tu disposes, c'est quasi impossible. De toute facon, vu la maniere dont tu concois ton voyage, qu'irais-tu faire hors des sentiers battus ??? Prendre le temps de connaitre la population ? Tu ne l'auras pas.
Mets-toi bien en tete que l'on ne roule pas a plus de 50 km/h de moyenne (la nuit) et que les distances que tu veux parcourir sont de plusieurs milliers de km.
Si tu as un truc pour voler plus vite que la navette spaciale, je suis preneuse 😉
Une adresse, peut etre ICI
Good luck, Pat
lorsqu'on veut tout voir, on ne regarde rien...
C'est dans le but d'optimiser son voyage🙂
C'est dans le but d'optimiser son voyage🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Tchôm rirb sour Lok Pou Abalone🙂,
C'est dans le but d'optimiser son voyage
C'est peut-être une nouvelle tendance, voire un nouveau quotient :
prix du voyage / kilomètres parcourus = X
Plus X est bas, plus vous avez dépensé moins en mètres...😛🤪😏 ! Et moins pire c'est !
A l'heure de la crise, on ne fait pas de petite économie...😛
Cordialement, Ugolin70
C'est dans le but d'optimiser son voyage
C'est peut-être une nouvelle tendance, voire un nouveau quotient :
prix du voyage / kilomètres parcourus = X
Plus X est bas, plus vous avez dépensé moins en mètres...😛🤪😏 ! Et moins pire c'est !
A l'heure de la crise, on ne fait pas de petite économie...😛
Cordialement, Ugolin70
C'est peut-être une nouvelle tendance
Ce n'est pas nouveau, cela fait deux ans, depuis que je suis sur VF que je fais Holà "pas de circuit Nord Sud ou Sud Nord au Viêtnam en 15 ou 21 jours", d'autant plus quand il s'agit d'une saison peu favorable où la moitié du parcours risque de se passer sous la pluie e le ciel maussade, comme en Novembre où le Centre du pays connait des inondations habituelles.
Soit comme tu l'as souligné hier dans un autre post, on y met les moyens et on prend l'avion pour court-circuiter les sites pluvieux et on peut profiter de jolis sites, même dans plusieurs pays.
Soit on se contente de rester longtemps sur place pour s'imprégner complètement du pays et déjouer les tentatives d'arnaque classique des touristes.
Dire que l'on a qu'une seule occasion pour se rendre en Asie du Sud Est, ne doit pas être une bonne raison de gâcher son voyage en voulant courir partout.
Ce n'est pas nouveau, cela fait deux ans, depuis que je suis sur VF que je fais Holà "pas de circuit Nord Sud ou Sud Nord au Viêtnam en 15 ou 21 jours", d'autant plus quand il s'agit d'une saison peu favorable où la moitié du parcours risque de se passer sous la pluie e le ciel maussade, comme en Novembre où le Centre du pays connait des inondations habituelles.
Soit comme tu l'as souligné hier dans un autre post, on y met les moyens et on prend l'avion pour court-circuiter les sites pluvieux et on peut profiter de jolis sites, même dans plusieurs pays.
Soit on se contente de rester longtemps sur place pour s'imprégner complètement du pays et déjouer les tentatives d'arnaque classique des touristes.
Dire que l'on a qu'une seule occasion pour se rendre en Asie du Sud Est, ne doit pas être une bonne raison de gâcher son voyage en voulant courir partout.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Que de reactions!!!
Merci pour vos commentaires en tout cas.
Voila je pense ça va éclaircir les choses un peu je travaille dans le tourisme, donc je veux dans un premier temps avoir un aperçu maximum des choses...et voir eventuellement les possibilités d itinérarires hors des sentiers battus et les réceptifs sur place.
Mais je partage votre sentiment sur le fait que ce ne sera qu'un aperçu.
Avoir un aperçu permet également de vivre le pays la fois d'après dans un endroit qui nous plait.
je travaille dans le tourisme, donc je veux dans un premier temps avoir un aperçu maximum des choses...
Ok, dans ce cas, ce n'est plus du tourisme mais un voyage d'affaires alors🙂
et voir eventuellement les possibilités d itinérarires hors des sentiers battus et les réceptifs sur place.
Au Viêtnam, il y a tellement de sites "inédits" qu'il va falloir louer une voiture et un guide pour les visiter, mais il faudra du temps! Pour l'instant, les tours opérators s'arrêtent sur une dizaine de sites où se concentrent tous les touristes qui croient visiter des sites incontournables.
Ok, dans ce cas, ce n'est plus du tourisme mais un voyage d'affaires alors🙂
et voir eventuellement les possibilités d itinérarires hors des sentiers battus et les réceptifs sur place.
Au Viêtnam, il y a tellement de sites "inédits" qu'il va falloir louer une voiture et un guide pour les visiter, mais il faudra du temps! Pour l'instant, les tours opérators s'arrêtent sur une dizaine de sites où se concentrent tous les touristes qui croient visiter des sites incontournables.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
C'est dans le but d'optimiser son voyage
C'est peut-être une nouvelle tendance, voire un nouveau quotient :
prix du voyage / kilomètres parcourus = X
Plus X est bas, plus vous avez dépensé moins en mètres...😛🤪😏 ! Et moins pire c'est !
A l'heure de la crise, on ne fait pas de petite économie...😛
Je n'avais pas pensé a mathématiser ca, mais c'est plutot bien vu Ugolin 😉 en pleine crise financière il n'y a pas de petites éconocroques, comme tu dit si bien.... (pour Pat) "Voir le plus de pays et mourir" (....de fatigue?) 😉
C'est peut-être une nouvelle tendance, voire un nouveau quotient :
prix du voyage / kilomètres parcourus = X
Plus X est bas, plus vous avez dépensé moins en mètres...😛🤪😏 ! Et moins pire c'est !
A l'heure de la crise, on ne fait pas de petite économie...😛
Je n'avais pas pensé a mathématiser ca, mais c'est plutot bien vu Ugolin 😉 en pleine crise financière il n'y a pas de petites éconocroques, comme tu dit si bien.... (pour Pat) "Voir le plus de pays et mourir" (....de fatigue?) 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Jsuis bien d accord avec toi j oeuvre justement pour eventuellement monter un réceptif la bas...
voyage d affaire si tu veux voyage plaisir avant tout
après se pose la question...est ce qu'il fo ouvrir aux tourisme de masse des zones reculées... laissons un peu aux gens de sites internet comme celui-ci profiter encore quelques années de zones encore peu affectées par le tourisme de masse...
après se pose la question...est ce qu'il fo ouvrir aux tourisme de masse des zones reculées... laissons un peu aux gens de sites internet comme celui-ci profiter encore quelques années de zones encore peu affectées par le tourisme de masse...
Que de reactions!!!
Merci pour vos commentaires en tout cas.
Voila je pense ça va éclaircir les choses un peu je travaille dans le tourisme, donc je veux dans un premier temps avoir un aperçu maximum des choses...et voir eventuellement les possibilités d itinérarires hors des sentiers battus et les réceptifs sur place.
Mais je partage votre sentiment sur le fait que ce ne sera qu'un aperçu.
Avoir un aperçu permet également de vivre le pays la fois d'après dans un endroit qui nous plait.
Je crois que tu as mal compris ce qui a voulu été dire je crois 😛 c'est que justement tu ne peux voir un maximum de choses en un minimum de temps, c'est la meilleure façon de passer a coté des choses les plus intéressantes et justement de sortir des sentiers battus, tant qu'a avoir juste un aperçu tu peux deja le faire avec un livre ou un film sur l'ASE, pas besoin d'aller sur place pour cela (tu peux même trouver les bières et la bouffe locales chez l'asiatique du coin) 😉
Je crois que tu as mal compris ce qui a voulu été dire je crois 😛 c'est que justement tu ne peux voir un maximum de choses en un minimum de temps, c'est la meilleure façon de passer a coté des choses les plus intéressantes et justement de sortir des sentiers battus, tant qu'a avoir juste un aperçu tu peux deja le faire avec un livre ou un film sur l'ASE, pas besoin d'aller sur place pour cela (tu peux même trouver les bières et la bouffe locales chez l'asiatique du coin) 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
après se pose la question...est ce qu'il fo ouvrir aux tourisme de masse des zones reculées...
laissons un peu aux gens de sites internet comme celui-ci profiter encore quelques années de zones encore peu affectées par le tourisme de masse... La réponse est NON 😠
Tu vas pas te faire des copains ici, je vois deja un contrat poser sur ta tête 😉, ici il me semble justement que c'est ce qu'on ne veut surtout pas, laissez nous quelques coins tranquille SVP, ne faites pas du monde un big supermarket touristique 🤪
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
ta réponse est un peu facile je trouve...
si pour toi il faut rester forcément 1 mois sur la baie d halong ou sur angkor... je pense que sans forcément rester deux semaines au meme endroit on s impregne de l'ambiance d'un pays....après je veux voir les sites incontournables tout en restant en routard et en restant a l ecoute des infos sur les coins reculés interessant à voir...
si j en avais la possibilité je restrais bien plus forcément mais bon j ai un boulot et il fo bien rentrer un jour ou l'autre...
donc je me contente de ce dont j ai a disposition....
Il fallait voir aussi un peu d'humour dans ma réponse 😉 Ne pas tout prendre au 1er degré, j'avais fort bien compris ta démarche, moi aussi je partirai plus longtemps qu'un petit mois si je pouvais mais je ne fais pas le tour de l'ASE en 3 semaines, un tout petit bout a chaque fois me suffit 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Bonsoir,
je réponds un peu tard, mais mieux que jamais 😄 Je sais plus qui a dit que le Laos est juste un lieu de passage et le Cambodge juste Angkor Wat. Evidemment, ce sont des étiquettes toutes faites qui sera difficile de faire oublier.
En tout cas, j'ai une proposition à te faire si tu veux faire des choses intéressantes. C'est vrai que trois semaines pour autant de pays, c'est la course 😄. Mais bon, t'es plutôt du genre affaire ! Alors je te suggère de faire pour le Cambodge : Ratanakiri -> Siem Reap -> Phnom Penh en bateau -> Sihanoukville -> Koh Rong -> Koh Sdach -> Koh Kong -> Thailande. Je pense que ça va te plaire. Pour la partie plage, c'est vraiment hors sentier battus. Koh Rong est une très belle île, ainsi que Koh Sdach.
Par contre, je ne suis pas certains qu'il y ait une navette qui fasse Koh Rong -> Koh Sdach. Mais si ca existait ca serait le circuit idéal. pour faire Sihanoukville -> Thailande.
sur ce post, tu verras des photos et des renseignements pour aller sur l'île. Surtout ne pas confondre Koh Rong et Koh Rong Saloem. http://voyageforum.com/voyage/vietnam_cambodge_quelle_plage_en_janvier_D2028766/
Bon sang, je ne parle que de Koh Rong ici lol !!!
Bon Voyage (d'affaire) 😉.
je réponds un peu tard, mais mieux que jamais 😄 Je sais plus qui a dit que le Laos est juste un lieu de passage et le Cambodge juste Angkor Wat. Evidemment, ce sont des étiquettes toutes faites qui sera difficile de faire oublier.
En tout cas, j'ai une proposition à te faire si tu veux faire des choses intéressantes. C'est vrai que trois semaines pour autant de pays, c'est la course 😄. Mais bon, t'es plutôt du genre affaire ! Alors je te suggère de faire pour le Cambodge : Ratanakiri -> Siem Reap -> Phnom Penh en bateau -> Sihanoukville -> Koh Rong -> Koh Sdach -> Koh Kong -> Thailande. Je pense que ça va te plaire. Pour la partie plage, c'est vraiment hors sentier battus. Koh Rong est une très belle île, ainsi que Koh Sdach.
Par contre, je ne suis pas certains qu'il y ait une navette qui fasse Koh Rong -> Koh Sdach. Mais si ca existait ca serait le circuit idéal. pour faire Sihanoukville -> Thailande.
sur ce post, tu verras des photos et des renseignements pour aller sur l'île. Surtout ne pas confondre Koh Rong et Koh Rong Saloem. http://voyageforum.com/voyage/vietnam_cambodge_quelle_plage_en_janvier_D2028766/
Bon sang, je ne parle que de Koh Rong ici lol !!!
Bon Voyage (d'affaire) 😉.
Bonjour jimmu !
"Je sais plus qui a dit que le Laos est juste un lieu de passage et le Cambodge juste Angkor Wat. Evidemment, ce sont des étiquettes toutes faites qui sera difficile de faire oublier. "
Je suis totalement d'accord avec toi...je parle souvent de la quasi impossibilité de changer cette tendance lourde...Histoire de contrecarrer l'idée que PNH, deux jours ca suffit, je me suis amusé à faire ce qui pourrait être un programme sur PNH et alentours...Sans problème, deux semaines, dans un rayon de 80 klm !...Et six semaines sans séjour balnéaire, donc 8 sans aucun problèmes, et je suis loin encore de tout connaitre !😉
Pour les iles, je vois beaucoup de personnes qui rêvent de la Thailande de hier, il suffit qu'ils passent la frontière !
Quant à un tourisme hors sentiers battus, il n'est pas nécessaire d'aller polluer les minorités...Il suffit de s'ecarter un peu du triangle touristique...Des structures sont "naissantes"...Koh rong (sihan) que je ne connais pas encoe, koh dach "l'ile de la soie" (sur le mekong près de PNH), ...
A bientot..On the road again!!!🙂
"Je sais plus qui a dit que le Laos est juste un lieu de passage et le Cambodge juste Angkor Wat. Evidemment, ce sont des étiquettes toutes faites qui sera difficile de faire oublier. "
Je suis totalement d'accord avec toi...je parle souvent de la quasi impossibilité de changer cette tendance lourde...Histoire de contrecarrer l'idée que PNH, deux jours ca suffit, je me suis amusé à faire ce qui pourrait être un programme sur PNH et alentours...Sans problème, deux semaines, dans un rayon de 80 klm !...Et six semaines sans séjour balnéaire, donc 8 sans aucun problèmes, et je suis loin encore de tout connaitre !😉
Pour les iles, je vois beaucoup de personnes qui rêvent de la Thailande de hier, il suffit qu'ils passent la frontière !
Quant à un tourisme hors sentiers battus, il n'est pas nécessaire d'aller polluer les minorités...Il suffit de s'ecarter un peu du triangle touristique...Des structures sont "naissantes"...Koh rong (sihan) que je ne connais pas encoe, koh dach "l'ile de la soie" (sur le mekong près de PNH), ...
A bientot..On the road again!!!🙂
Roger
Bonjour Roger,
Courage, on va y arriver ;-). Je comprends qu'on ait des contraintes de temps et de budget, mais cela n'enlève pas le fait que PP et ses alentours offrent des lieux magnifiques et uniques surtout. Donc à voir ! Le forum est un bon moyen pour "défaire" ses idées toutes faites.
PP et ses alentours en deux jours, j'en doute aussi. même en hélicoptère ça fait juste 😄. En plus de la capitale, je rajouterais, Koh Dach (île détachée) comme tu le précises, Oudong, l'ancienne capitale Royale ... et bien d'autres lieux bien plus beaux les uns que les autres. il faut compter au moins une semaine pour bien apprécier ces lieux uniques.
Pour koh Rong, mon oeil divin 😛 me prédit que d'ici 5 ans, l'île sera mieux connue du grand public. De même Koh Sdach (Ile Royal), près de Koh Kong, et toutes les autres îles alentours se développeront dans la foulée. Pour info, les îles satellites de Koh Rong, Song Saa vont accueillir des touristes dès 2010 ! http://www.brocongroup.com/pages/developments_current_song.cfm
En route pour l'aventure ...
Courage, on va y arriver ;-). Je comprends qu'on ait des contraintes de temps et de budget, mais cela n'enlève pas le fait que PP et ses alentours offrent des lieux magnifiques et uniques surtout. Donc à voir ! Le forum est un bon moyen pour "défaire" ses idées toutes faites.
PP et ses alentours en deux jours, j'en doute aussi. même en hélicoptère ça fait juste 😄. En plus de la capitale, je rajouterais, Koh Dach (île détachée) comme tu le précises, Oudong, l'ancienne capitale Royale ... et bien d'autres lieux bien plus beaux les uns que les autres. il faut compter au moins une semaine pour bien apprécier ces lieux uniques.
Pour koh Rong, mon oeil divin 😛 me prédit que d'ici 5 ans, l'île sera mieux connue du grand public. De même Koh Sdach (Ile Royal), près de Koh Kong, et toutes les autres îles alentours se développeront dans la foulée. Pour info, les îles satellites de Koh Rong, Song Saa vont accueillir des touristes dès 2010 ! http://www.brocongroup.com/pages/developments_current_song.cfm
En route pour l'aventure ...
Voila je pense ça va éclaircir les choses un peu je travaille dans le tourisme, donc je veux dans un premier temps avoir un aperçu maximum des choses...et voir eventuellement les possibilités d itinérarires hors des sentiers battus et les réceptifs sur place.
(...)
j oeuvre justement pour eventuellement monter un réceptif la bas...
Voila des informations qui changent complètement le sens du post initial, pourquoi ne l'as-tu pas dit plus tôt ? 😠
Voila des informations qui changent complètement le sens du post initial, pourquoi ne l'as-tu pas dit plus tôt ? 😠
Bonjour lepiaf
Comme tu dis ...Au bout du compte, une bonne synthèse de ce que propose les T.0 serait la bonne méthode .
CDL!
Comme tu dis ...Au bout du compte, une bonne synthèse de ce que propose les T.0 serait la bonne méthode .
CDL!
Roger
Bonjour Roger,
Peut être qu'il veut travailler avec les japonais ils adorent ça eux, vas savoir . 😉
Peut être qu'il veut travailler avec les japonais ils adorent ça eux, vas savoir . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Ce qui me gonfle, c'est que le gars compte sur les membres de VF pour lui indiquer des "étapes hors des sentiers battus" afin de monter son business.
Au début, il cache son objectif réel, mais comme les réponses ne le satisfont pas, il se sent obligé de rectifier le tir, espérant ainsi tirer profit des membres de VF.
Si je participe au forum, c'est pour échanger avec des voyageurs, touristes ou expatriés individuels, pas avec des professionnels, surtout si c'est pour faire leur boulot.
VF est public, M. Perez n'a qu'à utiliser la fonction de recherche.
Juste et bien dit Khun Lepiaf . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Oui, j'avais bien compris ...et je suis d'accord !...Tu es dans le véritable sens du Forum... Moi, ce qui me gonfle en ce moment, c'est tout les messages qui sont dans le domaine de la comparaison, du jugement...des discussions de comptoir...de l'alarmisme...de la précision horaire...en gros tout ce dont je souhaite me séparer quand je suis en "voyage" ... les idées toutes faites, le consumérisme, ...et j'en passe !
Roger
le piaf je suis déçu de ton accueil...je suis un routard avant tout et si j ai demandé des lieu hors des sentiers battus c'est avant tout pour mon plaisir...et non pour mon eventuel futur business...
Je ne trouve pas que ton comportement reflete celui des routards que je croise lors de mes voyages...
Pour les autres merci pour vos conseils...mon voyage devient de plus en plus clair
c'est quoi un routard ?
En janvier février 2008 nous avons voyagé de Bangkok vers Hanoi, ensuite descente sur le sud Hué, Hoian, Natrang, Dalat, Mui Né, HKM, et le delta .
Ensuite Cambodge, Phnom Penh, Kep, Kampot, re Phnom Penh, siem Réap, kratié, stung Streng, et passage au Laos.
L'ile de khone, Champassak, Ventiane, Luang Prabang et retour sur Bangkok le voyage de 8 semaines était fini.
Nous avons passé 4 semaines au vietnam, nous avons regretté de ne pas être resté plus longtemp au Cambodge et de ne pas avoir de temp pour aller au nord Laos et de profiter des plages de Thaillande.
Nous allons terminer ce voyage en novembre au nord Laos et par les plages de THaillande.
Prenez votre temp.
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After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
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I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
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I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
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Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
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SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
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Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
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In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
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I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
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For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
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Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
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Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
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Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
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So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
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Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
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Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
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4 nights in Phuket
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Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
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Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.







