Maroc authentique: où se loger à Essaouira?
by Thierry8334
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Je suis à la recherche d'une authentique maison d'hôtes à Essaouira, tenue par de "vrais" propriétaires marocains. Auriez-vous une ou deux adresses que vous auriez déjà testé à me proposer s'il-vous-plaît ?
Plan B : Si vous connaissez des hôtels sympas aussi dans le même esprit où on nous prend pas pour des américains, je prends aussi. Par principe j'évite les structures tenues par des investisseurs étrangers pour bien des raisons.
Merci de bien vouloir me faire part de vos expériences. à bientôt.
Par ailleurs, J'ai entendu parler de la maison du chameau...quelqu'un a déjà testé ? ça ressemble à quoi ? merci.
Chez Brahim à Essaouira
Signé :Une horrible propriétaire de Maison d'hôtes, marrakchia depuis 30 ans, mais mieux vaudrait "un vrai propriétaire marocain ", qui exploiterait à fond ses employés non déclarés comme font la plupart.........( je ne parle bien sûr pas de Brahim!)
Au fait, faut-il aussi interdire aux Marocains d'investir en France ?
Signé :Une horrible propriétaire de Maison d'hôtes, marrakchia depuis 30 ans, mais mieux vaudrait "un vrai propriétaire marocain ", qui exploiterait à fond ses employés non déclarés comme font la plupart.........( je ne parle bien sûr pas de Brahim!)
Au fait, faut-il aussi interdire aux Marocains d'investir en France ?
Bonjour,
Authentique ??? c'est quoi ??
Essaouira est ce qu'il y a de plus "frelaté" dans les circuits touristiques marocains! Que les investisseurs qui tiennent l'hotel ou la maison d'hotes soient européens ou marocains, meme objectif, --> ton fric !
La maison du chameau, rien d'authentique, reposant et bien sympa (en 2005, mais tout change !) !
Authentique ??? c'est quoi ??
Essaouira est ce qu'il y a de plus "frelaté" dans les circuits touristiques marocains! Que les investisseurs qui tiennent l'hotel ou la maison d'hotes soient européens ou marocains, meme objectif, --> ton fric !
La maison du chameau, rien d'authentique, reposant et bien sympa (en 2005, mais tout change !) !
Merci pour l'info "chez brahim", pour le reste si vous désirez lancer des polémiques, je vous laisse alors le soin, Madame "l'horrible propriétaire depuis 30 ans" (...et bla bla bla et bla bla bla...) pour assurer le suivi des réponses car là n'est pas l'objet de mon post. Certains trouverons l'occasion de pratiquer l'invective et se déchainer ce forum suite à votre réponse en la prenant au 1er degré... Rassurez-vous, ce ne sera pas mon cas.
Je suis à la recherche d'une authentique maison d'hôtes à Essaouira, tenue par de "vrais" propriétaires marocains.
Par principe j'évite les structures tenues par des investisseurs étrangers pour bien des raisons.
Ces paroles ne sont pas de moi !!!!!!!!
Qui lance des polémiques ???????????
Les bons d'un côté, les méchants de l'autre .......
Contentez vous de demander les renseignements dont vous avez besoin !
Bon séjour au Maroc ; un conseil : ouvrez les yeux et vous apprendrez beaucoup de choses
Ces paroles ne sont pas de moi !!!!!!!!
Qui lance des polémiques ???????????
Les bons d'un côté, les méchants de l'autre .......
Contentez vous de demander les renseignements dont vous avez besoin !
Bon séjour au Maroc ; un conseil : ouvrez les yeux et vous apprendrez beaucoup de choses
- --
: si vous connaissez des hébergements "authentiques" du type maison d'hôtes marocaines (et est-ce bien nécessaire d'en rappeler la définition ?)--
Moi je serais interessé de connaitre la definition! 😏
Un hebergement authentique est c'est les marocains meme et tu es l'invité et non un lieu payant.
Moi je serais interessé de connaitre la definition! 😏
Un hebergement authentique est c'est les marocains meme et tu es l'invité et non un lieu payant.
Bonjour,
Je n'ai pas bien compris non plus ce que vous cherchez mais j'ai trouvé qu'Essaouira était la ville au Maroc où il était le plus facile de trouver un logement sympathique... et autant j'ai trouvé chers les cafés autant les logements pas trop.
Sinon oui c'est touristique bien sûr mais je n'y ai rencontré que des gens bien sympathiques, et la pression est moindre que dans bien d'autres villes comme Fès où ça m'a vraiment pesé.
Je n'ai pas bien compris non plus ce que vous cherchez mais j'ai trouvé qu'Essaouira était la ville au Maroc où il était le plus facile de trouver un logement sympathique... et autant j'ai trouvé chers les cafés autant les logements pas trop.
Sinon oui c'est touristique bien sûr mais je n'y ai rencontré que des gens bien sympathiques, et la pression est moindre que dans bien d'autres villes comme Fès où ça m'a vraiment pesé.
Bonjour.
Moi je suis allée pour la première fois à ESSAOUIRA en vacances avec ma soeur et nos filles...et on a apprécié ESSAOUIRA...Après chacun ses gouts...
La première nuit nous sommes descendus à l'hotel LE FESTIVAL... Je le decommande... Sale, bruyant...le prix 150 dihram la nuit pour 2...
Nous avons après fait des recherches dans la médina et trouver dans une impasse l'hotel LA CASA DI CARLO (recommandé dans le guide du routard) ...une chambre avec 2 grands lits pour 300 dirham la nuit... Endroit très joli...très bien tenu par 2 jeunes hommes marocains... Cet hotel ressemble à une galerie d'art...des oeuvres accrochés sur tous les murs...du hall jusqu'aux chambres....Possibilité de se restaurer... Nos filles ont adorées...et nous aussi... D'ailleurs à l'entrée il y a un livre d'or bien rempli...
Bonne recherche...
Murielle
De peur de rapetisser, nous oublions de grandir...
De peur de pleurer, nous oublions de rire... "Paulo COELHO" Maktub
Je suis d'accord avec vous... J'ai apprécié l'accueil des gens...
Bien sur que nous sommes touristes...donc évidemment synonymes d'argent;..
Mais j'ai vraiment pris plaisir à découvrir cette ville l'été dernier...A tel point que j'y retourne l'été prochain...
Ma fille est originaire de la BRETAGNE plus précisément ST MALO et on a trouvé des similitudes avec ESSAOUIRA...
Moi je recommanderais cet endroit...
Après chacun ses gouts...
De peur de rapetisser, nous oublions de grandir...
De peur de pleurer, nous oublions de rire... "Paulo COELHO" Maktub
Vous faites un peu ce que vous lui reprochez. Je connais pas mal de Marocains qui déclarent leurs employés (et aussi pas mal d'investisseurs étrangers qui ne le font pas). Rien n'est blanc et rien n'est noir.
Mais dites-moi Madame (loin de moi l'idée de vouloir vous juger), auriez-vous réagis de la même manière si quelqu'un sur le forum cherchez à aller dans un riad tenu par des Français?
Le client est roi est libre à lui d'aller chez qui il veut.
PS: pour moi qui vais chez les deux (les locaux et les étrangers) le seul critère qui vaille, c'est la qualité des prestations.
Moi aussi j'ai adoré la Casa di Carlo ;-)
Je me souviendrai très longtemps de l'accueil du gars qui tient cet endroit
et aussi de ma première image en arrivant. Très heureuse de débarquer un soir dans ce cadre magique et rigolo. Je crois que cet endroit m'a vraiment fait aimé Essaouira...
et oui aimer un endroit passe d'abord par notre bien être et les gens qu'on y rencontre.
Mais bon ce n'est pas la grande classe non plus, juste un endroit extrêmement sympatique. Peut être que Thierry cherche quelque chose de plus confortable. J'avais repéré un riad pas trop cher en face (300) mais je ne sais pas ce qu'il vaut.
Je me souviendrai très longtemps de l'accueil du gars qui tient cet endroit
et aussi de ma première image en arrivant. Très heureuse de débarquer un soir dans ce cadre magique et rigolo. Je crois que cet endroit m'a vraiment fait aimé Essaouira...
et oui aimer un endroit passe d'abord par notre bien être et les gens qu'on y rencontre.
Mais bon ce n'est pas la grande classe non plus, juste un endroit extrêmement sympatique. Peut être que Thierry cherche quelque chose de plus confortable. J'avais repéré un riad pas trop cher en face (300) mais je ne sais pas ce qu'il vaut.
Comme Mumu, j'ai été à l'hotel Casa di Carlo et y retournerai.
Pour le reste, chacun ses vacances, suivant son temps, ses gouts et ses moyens
Pour le reste, chacun ses vacances, suivant son temps, ses gouts et ses moyens
Bonjour
Pour commencer
Authentique et Essaouira sont deux mots incompatibles
Ensuite
Chez Brahim à fuir à grandes enjambées. Rien à voir avec le style que tu cherches.
Alain
merci, je ne cherche pas le super-confort ni la grande classe, bien au contraire. Je vais faire des recherches sur les établissements que vous venez de mentionner.
"aimer un endroit passe d'abord par notre bien être et les gens qu'on y rencontre." Vous avez raison, c'est effectivement essentiel.
"aimer un endroit passe d'abord par notre bien être et les gens qu'on y rencontre." Vous avez raison, c'est effectivement essentiel.
Oui, la Casa Di Carlo est un endroit super sympa, dans la médina, au fond d'une impasse...Rez de chaussée décoré par des artistes locaux, très coloré et joyeux...Les chambres sont grandes, aérées, simples mais agréables et harmonieuses...
Tenue par deux jeunes marocains très sympa, accueillants, et ouverts... mais si tu tiens absolument à ne pas aller chez un européen, dommâge car cette maison appartient à un hollandais, ou suédois, qui ne vit pas là et qui d'ailleurs souhaitait il y a un an revendre son affaire...Je ne sais pas si elle existe toujours...
C'est un endroit en toute simplicité, et malgré ton exigence ci-dessus que je te conseille...
Aube
Viens donc! Regarde le soleil à son méridien, et de l'autre côté la nuit foule déjà à ses pieds le Maroc. Dante.
mais mieux vaudrait "un vrai propriétaire marocain ", qui exploiterait à fond ses employés non déclarés comme font la plupart..
Bonjour, En répondant de cette manière, vous tendez le bâton pour vous faire battre!
Bonjour, En répondant de cette manière, vous tendez le bâton pour vous faire battre!
Aube
Viens donc! Regarde le soleil à son méridien, et de l'autre côté la nuit foule déjà à ses pieds le Maroc. Dante.
C'est quand même moi qui ait conseillé "chez Brahim."..........
Ce qui m'a choqué n'est pas sa recherche, bien au contraire, car c'est exactement ce que je cherche quand je voyage au Maroc ou ailleurs ! Mais, c'est la "présentation de sa demande " et les raccourcis un peu simplistes 😕
Je suis d'accord qu'il faut juger les gens "un par un" et non en groupes de nationalité ou de religion ou autres ..........il y a de tout partout !!!!!!
C'est pour çà que les messages caricaturaux me font réagir, mais j'ai peut-être "mauvais caractère" ? ???????🤪
Vive les adresses chaleureuses, quelque soit la nationalité de l'hôte !
Cordialement et continuons à échanger les bons plans
Ce qui m'a choqué n'est pas sa recherche, bien au contraire, car c'est exactement ce que je cherche quand je voyage au Maroc ou ailleurs ! Mais, c'est la "présentation de sa demande " et les raccourcis un peu simplistes 😕
Je suis d'accord qu'il faut juger les gens "un par un" et non en groupes de nationalité ou de religion ou autres ..........il y a de tout partout !!!!!!
C'est pour çà que les messages caricaturaux me font réagir, mais j'ai peut-être "mauvais caractère" ? ???????🤪
Vive les adresses chaleureuses, quelque soit la nationalité de l'hôte !
Cordialement et continuons à échanger les bons plans
--
: si vous connaissez des hébergements "authentiques" du type maison d'hôtes marocaines (et est-ce bien nécessaire d'en rappeler la définition ?)--
(Un hebergement authentique est c'est les marocains meme et tu es l'invité et non un lieu payant.[/reply--
bonsoir peux tu me decortiquer cela vraiment stp 😉 je ne voudrais pas me tromper sur le VRAI sens
je ne te charie pas ! prend en note😉
merci
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
...Je ne sais pas si elle existe toujours...
Cet endroit existe, je l'ai vu encore il y a 2 semaines de cela !
Pas loin, il y a le riad Nakhla, pas vilain, mais "peut mieux faire" assurément ...
cet endroit existe, je l'ai vu encore il y a 2 semaines de cela !
Chouette! Je dois aller à Essaouira dans quelques temps, et y séjournerai au moins une nuit. Tu y as séjourné?
Chouette! Je dois aller à Essaouira dans quelques temps, et y séjournerai au moins une nuit. Tu y as séjourné?
Aube
Viens donc! Regarde le soleil à son méridien, et de l'autre côté la nuit foule déjà à ses pieds le Maroc. Dante.
Tu y as séjourné?
Non, mais j'ai pris la carte de visite pour avoir leurs coordonnées, pour une prochaine fois peut-être ... En revanche j'avais dormi au riad nakhla tout proche.
Non, mais j'ai pris la carte de visite pour avoir leurs coordonnées, pour une prochaine fois peut-être ... En revanche j'avais dormi au riad nakhla tout proche.
Bonjour,
Je me rends régulièrement au maroc avec des voyageurs, et quand nos pas nous mènent à Essaouira je vais à l'hôtel Maison du Sud qui se trouve au coeur de la médina.
Chaque fois les personnes sont contentes de l'accueil fait par Brahim ou Said ; j'y serai d'ailleurs au moins 2 fois d'ici le mois de mai.
Si cela vous intéresse je peux vous donner les coordonnées, je ne voudrais surtout pas lancer de polémiques sur cet hébergement ce qui est de plus en plus courant sur ce forum, dommage !!
A votre disposition
Bonjour
Pardon, je trouve le message aujourd'hui en rentrant après 25 jours au maroc
voici les coordonnées :
Maison du sud
29 av sidi med ben abdellah - essaouira
tel : 00 212 (0) 5 24 47 41 41
e-mail : contact@maisondusud.net
Si vous y allez dites bonjour à Brahim ou Said de la part de Martine Bon voyage
Si vous y allez dites bonjour à Brahim ou Said de la part de Martine Bon voyage
Bonsoir,
En lisant le fil des conversations et d’après ce que j'en ai compris vous souhaitez un hébergement ayant un bon rapport qualité prix à Essaouira !
Je vais assez régulièrement à Essaouira en famille et je préfère tout simplement louer un appartement meublé avec tout le confort et beaucoup plus propre qu'un hôtel ! Il faut compter entre 25 et 35 euros la nuit pour un appartement de 2 chambres et un salon !
Voilà si cela peut vous aider !
Bon séjour!
En lisant le fil des conversations et d’après ce que j'en ai compris vous souhaitez un hébergement ayant un bon rapport qualité prix à Essaouira !
Je vais assez régulièrement à Essaouira en famille et je préfère tout simplement louer un appartement meublé avec tout le confort et beaucoup plus propre qu'un hôtel ! Il faut compter entre 25 et 35 euros la nuit pour un appartement de 2 chambres et un salon !
Voilà si cela peut vous aider !
Bon séjour!
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!






