Durée de voyage? Effectué en... (Janvier 2009) Transsibérien: 1, 2, 3ème classe? Etapes et durées Prix des billets? Achetés sur place ou par agence? Catégorie d'hébergement Budget total du voyage Remarques
Budget à prévoir pour découvrir la Russie en Transsibérien?
by Unagui64
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Malgrè que les sujets sur le transsibérien reviennent fréquemment sur le forum, je n'arrive toujours pas à me faire une idée du budget à prévoir pour découvrir la russie en en transsibérien...
Je vous propose donc un petit sondage pour ceux qui ont déjà eu le plaisir d'effectuer ce périple.
Durée de voyage? Effectué en... (Janvier 2009) Transsibérien: 1, 2, 3ème classe? Etapes et durées Prix des billets? Achetés sur place ou par agence? Catégorie d'hébergement Budget total du voyage Remarques
Durée de voyage? Effectué en... (Janvier 2009) Transsibérien: 1, 2, 3ème classe? Etapes et durées Prix des billets? Achetés sur place ou par agence? Catégorie d'hébergement Budget total du voyage Remarques
Hello,
Je travaille également sur le sujet, je sais que les billets achetés de Moscou sont moins chers. Que la 3ème classe se partage avec beaucoup de monde. 1ère classe c'est 1 compartiment et 2 couchettes pour la 2ème classe c'est 4 couchettes par compartiment.
Les prix peuvent varier du simple au double de la 2ème à la 1ère. Deux sites pour plus d'infos : www.espace-transsiberien.com et www.waytorussia.net.
Salut, je prepare aussi ce trajet.
Un copain qui va regulierement en russie m'a dit que le temps etait fini ou tu payais ton billet moins cher a Moscou. Il y a de nombreux trains chaque jour faisant Moscou - Irkustsk par exemple.
Le "transiberien" s'appelle le Rossija 2 (le Rossija 1 va dans l'autre sens) et ne propose a la reservation que des 1e et 2e classe.
Sur la plupart des autres trains il existe une 3e classe.
Comme dit plus haut la 1e classe, tu es 2 dans un compartiment ferme (aux alentours de 600 euros pour un aller simple Moscou Irkutsk).
2 e classe tu es 4 pour environ 200 euros
3e classe, aussi appelee Plazkarty, est un wagon de 9 compartiments sans portes qui comportent chacun 6 lits (2x2 + 2 cote couloir). Une vue ici :
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/30/51539989_43a817d7ff_o.jpg
Alors evidemment le voyage n'est pas le meme.
Constante, il y a dans chaque wagon apparemment, quelle que soit la classe, une personne en charge du wagon qui distribue les draps, fait la "police", surveille la proprete... et un samovar en bout de wagon pour l'eau chaude necessaire au the ou au cafe.
Sur ce site : https://www.realrussia.co.uk/trains/index.php tu peux regarder les horaires et reserver tes billets 45 jours avant le depart. Il n'est pas possible, meme en gare a Moscou d'obtenir les billets plus de 45 jours avant apparemment. Seule les agences de voyages ont acces a la reservation 60 jours avant et donc font grimper les encheres evidemment. En saison touristique (ete surtout), il peut etre difficile de trouver des 2e classe et mieux vaut s'y prendre a temps.
A mon avis, le mieux est de faire la reservation 45 jours avant ton depart via le site internet que j'ai plus haut. C'est la que tu t'en tireras pour le moins cher.
Sur ce site : https://www.realrussia.co.uk/trains/index.php tu peux regarder les horaires et reserver tes billets 45 jours avant le depart. Il n'est pas possible, meme en gare a Moscou d'obtenir les billets plus de 45 jours avant apparemment. Seule les agences de voyages ont acces a la reservation 60 jours avant et donc font grimper les encheres evidemment. En saison touristique (ete surtout), il peut etre difficile de trouver des 2e classe et mieux vaut s'y prendre a temps.
A mon avis, le mieux est de faire la reservation 45 jours avant ton depart via le site internet que j'ai plus haut. C'est la que tu t'en tireras pour le moins cher.
Je me permets de nuancer quelque peu les infos que tu donnes.
Passer par une agence ne coute pas forcément beaucoup plus cher. Mais ce que je sais c'est que les prix que j'ai payés pour n'importe quel train en Russie étaient toujours moins chers que ceux des agences.
Le "transiberien" s'appelle le Rossija 2 (le Rossija 1 va dans l'autre sens) et ne propose a la reservation que des 1e et 2e classe. Sur la plupart des autres trains il existe une 3e classe.
Le transibérien n'est pas un train spécial. En fait ce n'est pas le train qui est transibérien, c'est la ligne de chemin de fer. En été, de nombreux trains sont affrétés, avec uniquement des 1 et 2 classe. En général ils sont peuplés d'étrangers.
La 3ème classe est tout à fait confortable. Je n'ai jamais voyagé qu'en troisième classe en Russie (sauf deux fois, parce qu'il n'y avait plus de place). C'est nettement moins cher, très sympa pour peu que les voisins soient un peu fétards, une bonne occasion de ne voyager qu'avec des Russes...je n'y vois que des avantages.
Passer par une agence ne coute pas forcément beaucoup plus cher. Mais ce que je sais c'est que les prix que j'ai payés pour n'importe quel train en Russie étaient toujours moins chers que ceux des agences.
Le "transiberien" s'appelle le Rossija 2 (le Rossija 1 va dans l'autre sens) et ne propose a la reservation que des 1e et 2e classe. Sur la plupart des autres trains il existe une 3e classe.
Le transibérien n'est pas un train spécial. En fait ce n'est pas le train qui est transibérien, c'est la ligne de chemin de fer. En été, de nombreux trains sont affrétés, avec uniquement des 1 et 2 classe. En général ils sont peuplés d'étrangers.
La 3ème classe est tout à fait confortable. Je n'ai jamais voyagé qu'en troisième classe en Russie (sauf deux fois, parce qu'il n'y avait plus de place). C'est nettement moins cher, très sympa pour peu que les voisins soient un peu fétards, une bonne occasion de ne voyager qu'avec des Russes...je n'y vois que des avantages.
Merci pour vos infos.
Je pense réserver mes billets au fur et à mesure sur place quitte à attendre 2 ou 3 jours... De toute façon, je compte faire des arrets de quelques jours pour visiter.
2 ou 3ème classe selon la disponibilité et le prix... c'est vrai que la 3ème classe doit etre plus 'fun' et intéréssante pour les rencontres. Les livres, la musique on doit vite saturer avec autant de kilomètres en train!
Si certains se rappellent de leurs dépenses, qu'ils n'hésitent à compléter le petit sondage du 1er post 😉
Si certains se rappellent de leurs dépenses, qu'ils n'hésitent à compléter le petit sondage du 1er post 😉
Le 3-eme classe est a deconseiller!
L'annee passee j'ai eu une experience pas tres plaisante. J'ai fait Kiev-St Pet en 3-eme classe. Le train a mias 24 heures pour couvrir ces mille km! Et.. (mauvaise surprise) on traversait la Bielorussie. Les habitants de ce pays vont en Russie pour travailler aux chantiers prives (on peut comme des polonais ou portugais en France). Ces gens "sympas" ne faisaient pas que boire de l'alcool de maison. Mais le pire est qu'ils parlaient tout le temps (imaginer leur langue! Dans ce cas il est mieux de ne pas comprendre le russe ou plutot d'etre sourd dans ce cas), essayaient de nous parler etc. "L'avare paie deux fois" dit une proverbe populaire russe. C'etait bien le cas.
Attention: les russent boivent, surtout en province! Ils adorent le faire dans les trains. Et ils se prennent surtout les billets 3-eme classe. Combien de jours allez-vous passer dans le train? Pensez-y avant de se payer un billet 3-eme classe!😕
Ania
La dernière fois que j'ai été en deuxième classe, je me suis retrouvée avec trois russes qui picolaient comme des brutes et j'ai franchement eu du mal à dormir, tellement ils faisaient du bruit. Très franchement, cela n'a rien à voir avec la classe qu'on prend.
J'ai quasi toujours pris des troisième classe, et je n'ai jamais eu aucun problème. Je dirais même que, voyageant seule, je me sentais plus tranquille en platskart qu'en kupe. Mais effectivement, il faut tolérer autour de soi la présence de gens qui n'ont pas beaucoup de sous, qui rient et qui discutent de tout et de rien pendant des heures, qui n'hésitent pas à lever le coude et qui ne sont pas tous des russes de souche. Moi, ça ne me pose aucun problème, je trouve cela bien plus sympa.
J'ai quasi toujours pris des troisième classe, et je n'ai jamais eu aucun problème. Je dirais même que, voyageant seule, je me sentais plus tranquille en platskart qu'en kupe. Mais effectivement, il faut tolérer autour de soi la présence de gens qui n'ont pas beaucoup de sous, qui rient et qui discutent de tout et de rien pendant des heures, qui n'hésitent pas à lever le coude et qui ne sont pas tous des russes de souche. Moi, ça ne me pose aucun problème, je trouve cela bien plus sympa.
Bonjour,
au cas où ces infos seraient encore utiles: vladivostok-khabarovsk:34€ khabarovsk-oulan oude:106€ oulan oude-irkoutsk:25€ irkoutsk-krasnoiarsk:48€ kranoiarsk-yekaterinbourg(sverdlovsk):77€ yekaterinbourg-moscou:76€ il s'agit des prix en septembre 2007, en koupe (compartiment de 4). Nous avons pris les billets au fur et à mesure sur place sans pb. Les billets sont moins chers qd on fait moins de stop. Dans les trains, nous étions souvent les seuls étrangers. Beaucoup d'étrangers font des longs tronçons et réservent par des agences : ils sont plutot sur le rossia. Le trajet nous a pris 1 mois mais avec pas mal d'arrets. Bonne ambiance dans le train. On nous invitait à boire dans les autres compartiments ou à manger des gateaux etc...
au cas où ces infos seraient encore utiles: vladivostok-khabarovsk:34€ khabarovsk-oulan oude:106€ oulan oude-irkoutsk:25€ irkoutsk-krasnoiarsk:48€ kranoiarsk-yekaterinbourg(sverdlovsk):77€ yekaterinbourg-moscou:76€ il s'agit des prix en septembre 2007, en koupe (compartiment de 4). Nous avons pris les billets au fur et à mesure sur place sans pb. Les billets sont moins chers qd on fait moins de stop. Dans les trains, nous étions souvent les seuls étrangers. Beaucoup d'étrangers font des longs tronçons et réservent par des agences : ils sont plutot sur le rossia. Le trajet nous a pris 1 mois mais avec pas mal d'arrets. Bonne ambiance dans le train. On nous invitait à boire dans les autres compartiments ou à manger des gateaux etc...
nicochan
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We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Also, I’m looking for: - A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan - A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance! Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks






