Quelqu'un connaît-il le temps de trajet entre l'aéroport de Dar et le port des ferries pour Zanzibar ?
Ca y est, nos billets pour Dar es Salaam pour juillet 2010 étant achetés, il me faut à présent réserver les vols intérieurs Dar - Kilimandjaro et retour.
Nous aimerions embarquer sur le ferry de 14h00. Pensez-vous qu'avec un vol atterrissant à 12h30 (en provenance d'Arusha), cela nous en laisse le temps ? Les billets pour le Ferry seront pré-achetés.
Par hasard, existe t-il des navettes entre l'aéroport et le port ?
Toute aide sera la bienvenue !
Euh... Et si quelqu' un a une idée du prix (approximatif) de la course, et bien... et bien ce serait vraiment bien !
Merci par avance,
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Merci beaucoup. En ce moment des tarifs intéressants sont mis en vente pour l'été prochain et grâce à ton renseignement je vais pouvoir avancer dans notre projet. Pour le taxi, du moment qu'il nous amène à bon port (jeu de mot !!!!😏😊), et en un seul morceau, ça devrait aller. J'ai des souvenirs aujourd'hui émus de taxis épiques. Avec le recul, c'est des souvenirs en plus. Tu as du en connaître des pires que les miens.
Dis-moi Turbi, après qques jours en safari, nous découvrirons Zanzibar. La musique fait partie de notre vie quotidienne. Pourrais-tu me donner de bons conseils pour découvrir la musique de cette île ? Qui, où et peut-être pourquoi et comment ?
En tout cas, encore une fois merci d'avoir pris le temps de répondre.
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
- repetitions tous les soirs vers 7 heures du legendaire Culture Musical Club, quartier Vuga, le batiment est legerement en retrait du trottoir Nord de Vuga road, stone town.
- repetitions plus tardives du legendaire Ikhwaan Safaa, quartier Malindi, a proximite de la rue kokoni, hotel du meme nom, malindi, stone town.
- tu peux aller glaner des infos ou des repets a l ecole de musique DCMA, situee sur le quai, a qques metres au Nord de la Maison des merveilles (N -E de Forodhani gardens)
- en 2002, tu pouvais trouver qques perles et aussi pas mal d'enregistrements indument copies, dans le magasin alakeifak, darajani street ( proche du marche)
ton avion atterrit théoriquement à 12h30 ; formalités douanières, récupération des bagages, et tu sors difficillement avant 13 heures de l'aéroport.
si tu prends un daladala (taxi collectif), il ne part en général pas avant d'être plein, d'où une certaine attente.
si tu prends un taxi (tous ceux que j'ai "cotoyés" étaient en bon état) le trajet tournera aux environs des 20 minutes si la circulation est assez fluide.
le prix de départ annoncé par les taxis pour aller de l'aéroport au centre ville était 15000 TZS en juillet 09 ; c'est à négocier mais ils ne sont pas très souples à la négociation.
les deux fois où j'ai pris un ferry en tanzanie, ils m'ont demandé d'être sur place une heure avant le départ.
je ne veux pas t'inquiéter mais, à mon avis, ce sera assez juste.
je pensais bien m'adresser à la bonne personne, mais là je suis soufflée. Encore une fois merci. Nous aurons certainement quelques pensées pour toi, les oreilles grandes ouvertes !
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
je vois que tu es rentré depuis peu, merci pour ta réponse.
Pour ce qui est des formalités douanières, penses tu qu'il y en ait beaucoup entre l'aéroport intérieur Du Kilimandjaro (Arusha) et celui de Dar es Salaam ? En fait nous atterrirons vers 20:00 le 02Jul à Dar, le lendemain matin repartirons pour Arusha et qques jours après nous reprendrons l'avion de Arusha pour Dar es Salaam puis le ferry pour Zanzibar.
Penses-tu que le fait d'avoir déjà payé nos visas à l'arrivée à Dar pourrait accélérer la procédure ?
As tu déjà volé sur des lignes intérieures en Tanzanie ?
Avais-tu acheté les billets du ferry à l'avance ?
A bientôt peut-être,
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Il serait peut-être plus simple et moins cher de prendre un vol Arusha ou Kilimanajro / Zanzibar ..plutôt qu'un vol pour Dar et le ferry pour Zanzibar
Kilimanajro ( JRO) est l'aéroport international . Certains vols partent de ARK ( Arusha) qui est tout près de la ville
Vous pouvez avoir un tarif aller retour même pour un trajet Dar / JRO et ARK / ZNZ du moment que vous réservez avec la même compagnie , par exemple Precision Air qui a pas mal de vols par jour
personnellement, j'ai fait un vol zanzibar-arusha qui, pour information, m'a coûté 194.74 USD.
si tu veux voir le type d'avion, sa photo se trouve sur http://buxico.com/tanzanie09/090701.htm mais j'ai cru comprendre que tu avais déjà ton billet, tant pour l'avion que pour le ferry.
il est vrai que, au point de vue formalités, comme ce n'est pas un vol internationnal, cela ira beaucoup plus vite lors de ton arrivée à dar-es-salaam.
j'ai acheté les billets pour le ferry chaque fois, le jour-même avant l'embarquement.
tu parles de l'aéroport du kilimanjaro mais celui-là est l'aéroport international de moshi et non d'arusha; il ne sont pas très éloignés mais il ne faut pas confondre.
si je peux répondre à d'autres question, c'est bien volontiers.
en tout cas, on peut dire que tu t'y prends longtemps à l'avance !
C'est en effet la solution la plus pratique, et la différence de tarif serait largement compensée par le temps et les trajets économisés !
Savez vous où on peut réserver un 03/07/10 DAR 07:20 08:40 JRO et retour le 10/07/10 JRO - ZNZ ? Mes recherches donnent des trucs invraisemblables, style 16 h de vols ou 1835 euros/pax...😕 Je viens de téléphoner à une des rares agences à vendre Precision airways... Ils ne font pas de parcours multiples... Quant à certaines autres agences leurs sites ne connaissent ni ARK, ni JRO... Bref je suis avide de conseils avisés !
Cordialement,
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Vous pouvez soit contacter Precision Air par email , ils mettent en général quelques jours à répondre mais ils répondent ...sinon n'importe quel TO local pourra vous émettre les billets mais il y aura alors de petits frais d'émission
Si cela ne fonctionne pas, n'hésitez pas à me recontacter en privé , je pourrais vous les émettre
PS : les vols sont d'une heure environ . l'idéal est Dar / ARK et ARK / ZNZ ( selon les horaires c'est parfois JRO ) mais ARK est plus intéressant car c'est beaucoup plus près de la ville et donc moins cher en taxi . Les vols Precison air pour Zanzibar partent de ARK à 13h et 15h15 et de JRO à 11 h
le prix serait plutôt 275 euro / pers pour les deux trajets - tarif annulable sans frais avant émission , et modifiable 1x sans frais après émission
Pour commencer, je m'y prends très en avance en effet. En général nous réservons en octobre/novembre.
Je ne sais pas pourquoi mais les compagnies ont déjà publié leurs grilles des vols pour juillet10 pour la Tanzanie. et comme j'ai des rêves de voyage bien plus grands que la taille de mon budget, j'achète nos billets d'avion dès leur mise en vente pour bénéficier des tarifs intéressants. Chaque vol a un quota de places pour chaque niveau de tarif. C'est un peu comme à la cantine, les 1ers arrivés sont les mieux servis.
Pour info, notre vol du 02/07/10 direct Zurich - Dar es Salaam - Zurich (tu devineras facilement la compagnie et c'est pas la pire...😉), est au cours d'aujourd'hui à 773 euros sur le site de cette compagnie. Quant comme nous on habite à 1 heure de Zurich, on fonce ! Ce qui est sympa également, c'est que maintenant que j'ai des dates précises, il m'est possible de réserver les petites structures hôtelières que nous aimons bien en général, mais qui sont souvent complètes très tôt.
Je n'ai pas encore réservé les ferries, voulant d'abord m'occuper des vols intérieurs. Nous prendrons de toute façon le ferry pour repartir le dernier jour sur Dar es Salaam.
Chinook et toi avez grandement raison. Arrivant par avion, la solution logique est de continuer par ce moyen. Il reste plus qu'à trouver comment.
Avec quelle compagnie as-tu volé vers Moshi ? Comment as tu fait pour le retour ?
J'avais prévu de lire ton site en détails ce soir, mais je crois qu'après avoir ouvert la première page, je vais y retourner de ce pas...
Je reviendrai sûrement te poser quelques questions !
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
mon vol bruxelles - dar-es-salaam a été acheté le 10.02.09 pour le 18.06.09 et m'a coûté 608 EUR avec klm, assurance annulation comprise.
la compagnie pour zanzibar-arusha (en non moshi) était zanair ; rien à redire à part un léger retard au décollage.
et pour le retour, nous avons pris le bus de moshi à dar-es-salaam mais cela tu pourras le lire sur mon site.
J'ai travaillé il y a bien longtemps maintenant pour une petite compagnie d'aviation, aujourd'hui disparue.
Je vous suis vraiment reconnaissante du temps que vous prenez pour m'envoyer toutes ces infos.
Dans notre cas le choix de l'aéroport est secondaire. Bien que l'agence réceptive locale n'ait pas été définitivement choisie, celles avec lesquelles je suis en contact ont, dans le projet, proposé de nous accueillir à l'aéroport et de là direction les grands espaces du lac Natron. Nous arriverons reposés après avoir passé la nuit dans un transit motel à Dar.
Je crois que je vais opter pour votre première suggestion, écrire à Precision air. En effet le site (sérieux) où nous achetons nos billets habituellement nous propose DAR - JRO - DAR pour 450 euros aux dates qu'il nous faut pour nous 3 (mon mari, notre fils de 14ans et moi). Je me dis que ce tarif est vraiment intéressant, d'autant plus quand on voyage à 3.
Je vais donc envoyer un message à Précision pour leur demander le coût d'un DAR - ZNZ et celui d'un DAR - ZNZ -DAR. Qui ne tente rien n'a rien !
En tout cas, merci beaucoup Chinook, je vous tiendrai au courant !
Cordialement,
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Je retiens Zanair. Je pense que tu as réservé sur place. A l'aéroport même ?
Nous pourrons nous aussi partir hors vacances scolaires dans quelques années... En attendant, les promos en cours d'année pour Juillet et Août, il faut avoir la chance de tomber dessus !
C'est clair que tu as bénéficié d'un super tarif !
A plus, quand j'aurais lu ton carnet. Heureusement que je suis en vacances, 7 à 8 heures de surf par jour !
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Comme promis, je vous tiens au courant de mes recherches. Vous aviez bien raison, prendre le ferry dans notre cas aurait été plus cher et bien moins pratique.
L'agence en ligne où je "m'approvisionne" habituellement ne vends pas DAR-JRO-ZNZ. Par contre en achetant 2 billets Precision Air : DAR-JRO-DAR et DAR-ZNZ-DAR on arrive à un total de 210 euros par pax, avec des correspondances sympa. Donc j'arrête là mes recherches.
Mon mari vous remercie également, les bâteaux il est loin d'être fan, et il a lu hier soir dans le carnet de Lebubu que la mer pouvait être remuante entre Dar et StoneTown !
Bonne fin d'été,
Joss
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There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Je suis bien contente de vous avoir donné cette nouvelle piste qui rendra vos trajets plus agréables sans tuer le budget
Oui la mer peut-être remuante ! Et le survol à basse altitude est vraiment joli, on voit plein de petits ilots avec des nuances de toutes les couleurs de bleu ..je ne m'en lasse pas 🙂
D'ici votre voyage , j'imagine que nous aurons l'occasion d'échanger sur plein de petits aspects de votre voyage, ce sera avec plaisir
j'ai lu et relu ton carnet, en me souvenant que je l'avais déjà lu lorsque tu l'avais mis en ligne. Je l'avais alors survolé, enchainant tout ce que je pouvais lire sur la Tanzanie. Pourtant j'avais retenu, les sièges d'avion, Ingridy, Lucie et ses tresses, et tes pérégrinations seul dans le Nord-est. Ce qui m'a le plus plu à la relecture, c'est ta façon de nous coller à tes pas. Je ne peux mieux l'expliquer. Ta façon d'écrire pourtant assez concise nous met au milieu des choses que tu vois et ressens. On prend un peu de hauteur, et pendant qques minutes, on s'y croit C'est ainsi que j'ai passé un bon moment à Pemba, et que j'ai un vrai à priori pour Moshi 😉 ! Question curieuse : pourquoi n'as tu pas accompagné Anne en Safari ?
Ce qui m'a frappé sur les photos sont les différences vestimentaires durant votre voyage, du sud en remontant vers le nord.
Comme tu y as été à peu près à l'époque où nous y serons, peux tu me dire quelle température tu as eu les nuits à Moshi et Marangu ? Nous prévoyons de dormir dans des tented camps. Faudrait-il que je prévois du chaud pour dormir ? As -tu eu chaud les nuits en général sur les îles, ou le temps variait-il ?
Et dernière question, dans quel hôtel as-tu dormi à stoneTown ? En étais tu content ou as tu remarqué un hôtel dont tu t'es dit que ce serait un bon choix ?
A bientôt peut-être, Bonne soirée,
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
voici la réponse à tes questions :
je n'ai pas accompagné noémie (et non anne) en safari parce que j'en ai fait un très chouette en 05 au kenya et que je n'avais pour l'instant pas envie d'en refaire un ; et puis, trois jours seul, cela faisait du bien et de plus, je préfère rencontrer et parler aux gens plutôt que d'aller voir les animaux.
question températures nocturnes, à dar-es-salaam et sur les îles, j'ai eu très chaud : je me réveillais après une heure et demi de sommeil avec des draps trempés et, d'ailleurs, nous ne recevions jamais de couverture, ce qui n'était pas le cas à moshi ni à marangu et là, la couverture servait mais parfois uniquement après minuit.
sur les îles, pendant la journée, j'ai toujours eu chaud, parfois un peu trop à mon goût bien que j'adore la chaleur.
à zanzibar, nous avons été au warere town house, vraiment tout près du port ; hôtel sympa avec un certain charme et personnel accueillant, petit déjeuner compris, sur le toit de l'hôtel, 45500 TZS la nuit pour notre chambre deux personnes avec salle de bain, toilettes, petit balcon, un lit de deux personnes et un lit de trois personnes, moustiquaires.
je n'ai pas fait attention à d'autres hôtels car je m'y plaisais bien mais il faut dire que je ne suis pas difficile et ne cherchais pas du tout le confort et le luxe.
j'espère avoir répondu à toutes questions et j'attends éventuellement d'autres.
je rentre tout juste de Tanzanie, les embouteillages à Dar sont vraiment mortel, j'ai failli rater mon avion pour zanzibar et mon avion de retour pour Dubai. perso vu ce que je viens de voir et vivre à dar, ca fait un peu chaud pour prendre ton ferry.
même sans de trop gros bouchon, ca va faire trop juste, mais mieux vaut prévoir des bouchons, donc compte 01h30 juste pour le trajet aéroport/port.
des navettes ? pas à ma connaissance ?
moi à ta place quitte à être à l'aéroport j'irais sur zanzibar en avion (avec coastal par exemple, c'est en gros 15 usd de plus qu'en ferry) mais bon vu ce que tu vas devoir payer en taxi pour aller au port? c'est toujour trés intéressant. temps de trajet en avion 20 minutes, plusieurs bonnes compagnies font la rotation plusieurs fois par jour, t'auras moins de stress à tout faire en avion, en plus tu seras directement dans le bon terminal, car je crois que les vols d'arusha et zanzibar sont sans le même terminal, et puis il y a la vue sur stone town des airs....
trés beau pays, gens sympas....je ferais un topo de mon voyage ce week end, à lire sur ABM bien sur...
Bonjour et merci Tyzef pour ce témoignage quasi en direct.
Ton témoignage confirme de façon très vivante qu'en effet, arrivant d'avion, et en plus d'Arusha (je suis contente d'apprendre que c'est le même terminal), la continuation par les airs pour Zanzibar est la plus logique. De plus le web offre actuellement des promos à 60 euros l'aller retour. Il n'y a plus de doutes à avoir. Je vais aller voir du côté de Coastal voir si leurs horaires seraient plus intéressants par rapport à nos vols que ceux de Precision Air.
J'ai hâte de lire ton topo.
A très bientôt donc,
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
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At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!