Voyage en famille en Asie du Sud-Est durant l'été: quel pays choisir?
by Polenord
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour, ça fait quelque temps que je prospecte pour mes prochaines vacances et...je n'arrive pas à me décider🤪 je suis déjà allé au Cambodge, j'étais tombé amoureux (et là je m'étais dit: la Thailande, jamais, trop "touristique") Quelques enfants plus tard, j'aimerai repartir (avec eux) et j'hésite: la Thailande(mais quels endroits loin de la foule? Et agréables en juillet/août?) Le Vietnam?( mais quid des pluies? Et des éventuels problèmes sanitaires ?) Ou alors l'Indonésie? J'ai beau éplucher les guides et ce forum, je n'arrive pas à choisir. Je précise que je cherche une certaine autonomie (pas de "tours" tout organisés)mais qu'avec des enfants je souhaite quand même une certaine facilité à se déplacer et à trouver des hébergements. Merci mille fois pour vos conseils🙂
pour la saison l'indonésie est ta meilleure option, au nord de la malaisie, pas besoin d arroser, plus ou moins de pluie, mais en gros toujours trop pour faire du tourisme a mon gout
en thailande, j ai passé un mois et demi a tourner en isan (nord est frontalier avec le laos) et je n ai pour ainsi dire pas rencontré de touristes etrangers
pour "facilité à se déplacer et à trouver des hébergements", je pense que la thailande est loin devant les autres
joyeux noel et bon voyage
en thailande, j ai passé un mois et demi a tourner en isan (nord est frontalier avec le laos) et je n ai pour ainsi dire pas rencontré de touristes etrangers
pour "facilité à se déplacer et à trouver des hébergements", je pense que la thailande est loin devant les autres
joyeux noel et bon voyage
Bonjour.
La Thaïlande réunit vraiment tout ca. ne t'inquiète pas, il n'y a que quelques coins vraiment circoncis qui soient gavés de touristes. 😛
La Thaïlande réunit vraiment tout ca. ne t'inquiète pas, il n'y a que quelques coins vraiment circoncis qui soient gavés de touristes. 😛
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse détaillée. Puisque tu parles de l'isan (qui était un coin de Thailande qui m'attirait, après avoir potassé le GDR) est-ce que tu as des conseils ou des bons plans? En ce qui concerne l'Indonésie, d'après ce que j'ai lu (entre autres sur ce forum), il semblerait qu'il y ait plus de monde en été qu'en Thailande. J'avoue que j'évite les foules , je préfère des coins plus calmes, plus authentiques, même si le temps est moins agréable. Dernière question: pour trouver une plage (pas trop peuplée et pas trop pluvieuse, mais on est fan de snorkeling , il y aura un moment prévu pour ça si possible) as-tu une idée? Merci encore et Joyeux Noel à toi aussi.
il n'y a que quelques coins vraiment circoncis qui soient gavés de touristes
😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏 pourquoi ne pas enlever le i du mot "coins", ce serait encore plus marrant.😉😉😉😉😉
Joyeuses Fetes !
Pat
😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏 pourquoi ne pas enlever le i du mot "coins", ce serait encore plus marrant.😉😉😉😉😉
Joyeuses Fetes !
Pat
En ce qui concerne l'Indonésie, d'après ce que j'ai lu (entre autres sur ce forum), il semblerait qu'il y ait plus de monde en été qu'en Thailande. J'avoue que j'évite les foules , je préfère des coins plus calmes, plus authentiques, même si le temps est moins agréable.
l'indonésie est immense et les coins gavés de touristes très localisés (a cette période la évite bali, ses charmes seront largement obscurcis par les hordes de touristes, les prix delirants, les arnaques et meme l'attitude des balinais)
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse détaillée. Puisque tu parles de l'isan (qui était un coin de Thailande qui m'attirait, après avoir potassé le GDR) est-ce que tu as des conseils ou des bons plans?
pour l'isan en famille; loue une voiture avec un gps, tu trouveras aux alentours des villes des parcs paysagers magnifiques un peu partout avec des bungalows avec clim (pas du luxe en juillet aout: chaud et moite) pour environ 10 euro la nuit pour 2. Les guides (routard et lp) sont tres peu documentes sur l'isan (tant que ca dure ca limitera la casse niveau tourisme de masse. regarde ce post VF: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3079871 qui donne un lien vers un guide francophone gratuit fraichement sorti disponible a udon thani entre autre autre. Udon thani: bonne base de depart, facile d acces avec air asia (pas cher) ou en train
Dernière question: pour trouver une plage (pas trop peuplée et pas trop pluvieuse, mais on est fan de snorkeling , il y aura un moment prévu pour ça si possible) as-tu une idée?
en juillet aout je crois qu il faut vraiment de la chance pour trouver un coin ou les eaux ne sont pas troublées en raison des pluies en thailande, la encore avantage indonesie
l'indonésie est immense et les coins gavés de touristes très localisés (a cette période la évite bali, ses charmes seront largement obscurcis par les hordes de touristes, les prix delirants, les arnaques et meme l'attitude des balinais)
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse détaillée. Puisque tu parles de l'isan (qui était un coin de Thailande qui m'attirait, après avoir potassé le GDR) est-ce que tu as des conseils ou des bons plans?
pour l'isan en famille; loue une voiture avec un gps, tu trouveras aux alentours des villes des parcs paysagers magnifiques un peu partout avec des bungalows avec clim (pas du luxe en juillet aout: chaud et moite) pour environ 10 euro la nuit pour 2. Les guides (routard et lp) sont tres peu documentes sur l'isan (tant que ca dure ca limitera la casse niveau tourisme de masse. regarde ce post VF: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3079871 qui donne un lien vers un guide francophone gratuit fraichement sorti disponible a udon thani entre autre autre. Udon thani: bonne base de depart, facile d acces avec air asia (pas cher) ou en train
Dernière question: pour trouver une plage (pas trop peuplée et pas trop pluvieuse, mais on est fan de snorkeling , il y aura un moment prévu pour ça si possible) as-tu une idée?
en juillet aout je crois qu il faut vraiment de la chance pour trouver un coin ou les eaux ne sont pas troublées en raison des pluies en thailande, la encore avantage indonesie
Bonjour Pole Nord,
Si tu as aime le Cambodge et tu aimes les coins authentiques, je te deconseille la Thailande et te conseille d avantage le Vietnam. Au Nord la saison est bonne. Pour ce qui est du Sud rien a voir avec les pluies du sud de la thailande ce ne sont que des averses en fin de journee. La saison a eviter est octobre novembre au Vietnam. Il y a plein de coin recules et authentique au Vietnam, notamment les montagnes du nord est du vietnam avec les ethnies minoritaires. Pour le snorkeling, il y a la van phong bay, la baie d halong, l ile de phu quoc etc.... Si vous voulez plus d infos n hesitez pas
Salutations
Si tu as aime le Cambodge et tu aimes les coins authentiques, je te deconseille la Thailande et te conseille d avantage le Vietnam. Au Nord la saison est bonne. Pour ce qui est du Sud rien a voir avec les pluies du sud de la thailande ce ne sont que des averses en fin de journee. La saison a eviter est octobre novembre au Vietnam. Il y a plein de coin recules et authentique au Vietnam, notamment les montagnes du nord est du vietnam avec les ethnies minoritaires. Pour le snorkeling, il y a la van phong bay, la baie d halong, l ile de phu quoc etc.... Si vous voulez plus d infos n hesitez pas
Salutations
Encore merci pour ton message et pour le lien (isan); donc "j'élimine" Bali à mes dates, et les plages de Thailande; je vais chercher un peu pour les autres îles indonésiennes; mais j'ai peur que les déplacements (entre les îles) grèvent mon budget😕 C'est vrai que l'isan doit être une belle région à découvrir (on laissera les palmes à la maison). A bientôt.
Bonjour, c'est vrai que le Vietnam m'attire beaucoup; j'hésite un peu à cause des enfants (les 2 plus jeunes ont 5 et 7 ans, je sais que certains ici partent avec des enfants plus jeunes); je cherche un compromis entre mes goûts pour le voyage "à la routarde" et leur "bien-être"...par exemple je voudrais leur éviter une destination où il faut prendre un traitement anti-palu (sachant que même tartinés d'anti-moustique, ces bestioles nous adorent🏴☠️...) Sinon, j'espère bien découvrir une autre fois les endroits que je n'aurai pas choisis cette fois-ci 😎
Je vais regarder les endroits que tu m'indiques, merci pour tes conseils.
Et encore un joyeux Noel à tous!
Et encore un joyeux Noel à tous!
Bonjour,
Pour le Vietnam, pas besoin de traitement anti palu sauf dans les regions centrales du haut plateau du dak lak et du gia lai la ou les risques sont plus important. Pour les beaux endroits vous pouvez regarder: Meo vac, ma phi leng, Ban gioc waterfall, thang hen lake, van phong bay, hoi an bien sur, la van long nature reserve, mai chau, la bai tu long bay, phu quoc etc etc..... Je peux vous envoyer quelques photos que j ai prise la semaine derniere ca vous parlera d avantage.:) Salutations
Pour le Vietnam, pas besoin de traitement anti palu sauf dans les regions centrales du haut plateau du dak lak et du gia lai la ou les risques sont plus important. Pour les beaux endroits vous pouvez regarder: Meo vac, ma phi leng, Ban gioc waterfall, thang hen lake, van phong bay, hoi an bien sur, la van long nature reserve, mai chau, la bai tu long bay, phu quoc etc etc..... Je peux vous envoyer quelques photos que j ai prise la semaine derniere ca vous parlera d avantage.:) Salutations
pluie au nord de la malaisie ? euh non je ne crois pas... c'est au contraire la meilleure saison et c'est d'ailleurs pour cela que Perhentian fait le plein!
au sud RAS, et encore moins a Borneo (saison des pluies en fin d'annee). mais s'il pleut c'est 15 mn et franchement, je dois dire que c'est assez agreable 😉
pluie au nord de la malaisie ? euh non je ne crois pas... c'est au contraire la meilleure saison et c'est d'ailleurs pour cela que Perhentian fait le plein!
je voulais dire à partir du nord de la malaisie (c est à dre thailande et les autres pays de la péninsule siamoise) assez éloignés de l'équateur pour être concernés par le risque de typhons, et ou la saison des pluies commence grosso modo en juillet j habite sous les tropiques depuis 15 ans, j ai pu voir assez de cyclones, pluies torentielles, inondations, glissements de terrain, routes défoncées apres ces phénomènes, épidémies consécutives... pour choisir d'éviter ces risques quand je voyage, ce n'est que mon choix mais ca fait partie des choses que j aime bien lire sur ce forum qd des gens prennent le temps de les partager, alors je le fais aussi joyeux noel
je voulais dire à partir du nord de la malaisie (c est à dre thailande et les autres pays de la péninsule siamoise) assez éloignés de l'équateur pour être concernés par le risque de typhons, et ou la saison des pluies commence grosso modo en juillet j habite sous les tropiques depuis 15 ans, j ai pu voir assez de cyclones, pluies torentielles, inondations, glissements de terrain, routes défoncées apres ces phénomènes, épidémies consécutives... pour choisir d'éviter ces risques quand je voyage, ce n'est que mon choix mais ca fait partie des choses que j aime bien lire sur ce forum qd des gens prennent le temps de les partager, alors je le fais aussi joyeux noel
Bonjour,
Nous avons trois ados (nés en 1991 et des jumelles en 1993) et nous avons parcouru la Thaïlande durant un mois en juillet 2008 et la Malaisie en juillet 2009. Les deux fois sacs au dos, totalement indépendants, sans guide ni tour opérator. Ces deux pays sont parfaits pour voyager en famille, vu la facilité des transports, la sécurité, les coûts abordables des logements et de la nourriture, sans parler évidemment de tout ce qu'il y a voir et à faire, dépaysement garanti...
Que ce soit l'un ou l'autre pays, c'est vraiment facile.
Pour vous faire une idée, nous avons publié sur ce site nos comptes-rendus de ces deux voyages. Vous pouvez les lire soit en allant sur mon profil, soit en allant sous la rubrique "Carnets de voyage" de chacun de ces pays.
Et désormais, nos ados (qui ne le sont plus tellement) préfèrent partir avec leurs amis, alors pour 2010, ce sera 3 semaines au Sri Lanka juste en couple. Mais toujours sac à dos.
Laurent
Nous avons trois ados (nés en 1991 et des jumelles en 1993) et nous avons parcouru la Thaïlande durant un mois en juillet 2008 et la Malaisie en juillet 2009. Les deux fois sacs au dos, totalement indépendants, sans guide ni tour opérator. Ces deux pays sont parfaits pour voyager en famille, vu la facilité des transports, la sécurité, les coûts abordables des logements et de la nourriture, sans parler évidemment de tout ce qu'il y a voir et à faire, dépaysement garanti...
Que ce soit l'un ou l'autre pays, c'est vraiment facile.
Pour vous faire une idée, nous avons publié sur ce site nos comptes-rendus de ces deux voyages. Vous pouvez les lire soit en allant sur mon profil, soit en allant sous la rubrique "Carnets de voyage" de chacun de ces pays.
Et désormais, nos ados (qui ne le sont plus tellement) préfèrent partir avec leurs amis, alors pour 2010, ce sera 3 semaines au Sri Lanka juste en couple. Mais toujours sac à dos.
Laurent
Chez vous comme en voyage, respectez la nature, elle nous le rend bien.
Carnets de voyage : cliquez sur mon profil.
Carnets de voyage : cliquez sur mon profil.
Merci.
Evidemment, à votre dispo pour toute autre info. On puise sur le forum, on rend sur le forum ...
Evidemment, à votre dispo pour toute autre info. On puise sur le forum, on rend sur le forum ...
Chez vous comme en voyage, respectez la nature, elle nous le rend bien.
Carnets de voyage : cliquez sur mon profil.
Carnets de voyage : cliquez sur mon profil.
Sinon l'Indonésie ne se limite pas a Bali, il y a beaucoup d'autres îles très intéressantes, sinon plus, comme Lombok, Flores, les Sulawesi, etc... je vous conseille grandement de jeter un oeil sur les formidables carnets de voyages de Loic, alias Lolodesiles, les lire nous fait deja voyager 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Je peux vous envoyer quelques photos
Tu peux en "attacher" en dessous de tes messages.
Cela permettra à tout le monde d'en profiter. Surtout si elles sont "bonnes"
Il n'est hélas pas possible d'en envoyer par message privé 😕
Tu peux en "attacher" en dessous de tes messages.
Cela permettra à tout le monde d'en profiter. Surtout si elles sont "bonnes"
Il n'est hélas pas possible d'en envoyer par message privé 😕
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Merci pour le lien, c'est passionnant! On a envie d'aller le rejoindre! 😎
Avec tous les conseils donnés, je m'oriente plutôt vers la Malaisie (merci le Genevois!) ou l'Indonésie (en effet, Flores, Lombok, ...)
Quelqu'un a-t-il une expérience de vol avec Egypt Air ou Air China? (meilleurs tarifs pour l'instant, il faut dire qu'on voyage à 6, les différences de prix sur les billets ne sont pas anecdotiques)
Au plaisir de vous lire dans cette discussion ou une autre, et encore merci.
Pour Air China, regardez ICI et pour Egypt Air LA , sinon il y a toujours ce site qui fait référence dans le domaine 😉 Ce ne sont pas mes compagnies préférées, loin de la, mais c'est vrai que ce sont parmi les moins chères et qu'a 6 ca fait en effet une grosse différence. Avez-vous regardé du coté des compagnies du golfe comme Qatar, Emirates ou Etihad qui ont aussi de très bons prix et surtout un confort bien meilleur?
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Salut, l'Indonésie, mon pays préféré parmis l'asie du sud-est. Et l'été meilleure saison aucun goûte de pluie! J'y retourne cet été 2010 justement! A+
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Salut, quel âge ont tes enfants ? J'ai préféré Flores de très très très loion à Lombok. Tu auras toute la lattitude nécessaire en indonésie! Loue-toi un 4X4 sur Flores. Bref, allez voir mes photos sur mon site de voyage, vous serez convaincu hehehe!A+
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Bonjour, les âges de mes enfants sont 6 , 8, 10 , 12; relativement autonomes sur terre et dans la mer 😉; mais pour se déplacer, il faut un minibus 🤪 et pour dormir, on peut pas se dispatcher entre plusieurs GH! Donc il faut que j'anticipe un peu les transports et l'hébergement! Maintenant que je suis davantage fixé sur la destination (un grand merci à tous), ça devrait aller mieux.😇A bientôt.
PS: Les photos de ton site font toutes envie ...Tu as visité des tas d'endroits superbes😎
Salut, entk Flores vaut vraiment vraiemnt le coup, ça été notre grande surprise et un dépaysement assuré! A+
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Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)