Retraite de réversion pour ma femme thaïlandaise n'ayant pas la nationalité française?
by Rfontaine
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour à tous,
je suis retraité, divorcé, mon ex femme s'est remariée, j'ai fait connaissance avec une Thaie.
Si je me marie avec elle, et si je decéde, peut-elle prétendre à la moité de ma pension.
Merci de répondre si vous connaissez le texte de loi.
je précise que mon amie n'a pas la nationalité française
Robert
Ici vous aurez tout et son contraire.
Et certainement dans les caisses de retraite aussi ...Mais puisque la question est sur le forum , l'orientation de ma réponse serait : OUI (je peux?)...
Votre première femme est hors course car remariée ET la reversion de retraite n'a rien à voir avec la nationalité de votre seconde épouse.
Et certainement dans les caisses de retraite aussi ...Mais puisque la question est sur le forum , l'orientation de ma réponse serait : OUI (je peux?)...
Votre première femme est hors course car remariée ET la reversion de retraite n'a rien à voir avec la nationalité de votre seconde épouse.
Roger
bonjour à tous,
je suis retraité, divorcé, mon ex femme s'est remariée, j'ai fait connaissance avec une Thaie.
Si je me marie avec elle, et si je decéde, peut-elle prétendre à la moité de ma pension.
Merci de répondre si vous connaissez le texte de loi.
je précise que mon amie n'a pas la nationalité française
Vous avez déjà tout et son contraire en l'espace de quelques lignes, en effet. Voici ce que je peux vous dire de mon côté:
- dans le cas général, la clause de non-remariage n'existe pas. - votre ex-épouse et votre épouse actuelle peuvent toutes les deux prétendre à toucher votre pension de réversion, ça peut donner par exemple un partage en fonction du nombre d'années de vie commune. - les régimes des complémentaires sont différents , par exemple la condition de non-remariage de l'ex-conjoint survivant varie d'une Caisse à l'autre. - le régime des fonctionnaires et militaires est aussi particulier - la nationalité du conjoint et de l'ex-conjoint survivants n'entrent pas en ligne de compte, par contre leurs propres ressources sont prises en compte. - la pension de réversion n'est versée qu'après un certain délai après le décès, attention donc à cette période cruciale pour les ressources du conjoint survivant. - il existe aussi une pension pour orphelin (1 parent décédé), suivant les cas.
Vous n'êtes pas sans savoir qu'actuellement ça bouge pas mal, et il se peut que les textes en vigueur sur les pensions de réversion soient modifiés, ils l'ont d'ailleurs été souvent dans un sens et dans l'autre depuis quelques années.
Bon courage. A votre disposition en MP.
Vous avez déjà tout et son contraire en l'espace de quelques lignes, en effet. Voici ce que je peux vous dire de mon côté:
- dans le cas général, la clause de non-remariage n'existe pas. - votre ex-épouse et votre épouse actuelle peuvent toutes les deux prétendre à toucher votre pension de réversion, ça peut donner par exemple un partage en fonction du nombre d'années de vie commune. - les régimes des complémentaires sont différents , par exemple la condition de non-remariage de l'ex-conjoint survivant varie d'une Caisse à l'autre. - le régime des fonctionnaires et militaires est aussi particulier - la nationalité du conjoint et de l'ex-conjoint survivants n'entrent pas en ligne de compte, par contre leurs propres ressources sont prises en compte. - la pension de réversion n'est versée qu'après un certain délai après le décès, attention donc à cette période cruciale pour les ressources du conjoint survivant. - il existe aussi une pension pour orphelin (1 parent décédé), suivant les cas.
Vous n'êtes pas sans savoir qu'actuellement ça bouge pas mal, et il se peut que les textes en vigueur sur les pensions de réversion soient modifiés, ils l'ont d'ailleurs été souvent dans un sens et dans l'autre depuis quelques années.
Bon courage. A votre disposition en MP.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
merci pour les réponses mais je veux préciser que je ne suis pas remarié je veux juste m'assurer que mon éventuel future épouse thaie puisse recevoir ma pension de reversion (retraite des fonctionnaires) car je n'ai que ce revenu et s'il m'arrive à decéder je ne voudrai pas que ma future épouse se retrouve démunie j'espére m'être bien fait comprendre.
J'ajoute que je suis la Réunion et que ma caisse de retraite se trouve à LANNION
Robert
Fonctionnaire:
- tout ex-conjoint si il s'est remarié ne peut prétendre à l'attribution de tout ou partie de la pension de réversion, mais par contre si vous avez eu des enfants de votre premier mariage ils peuvent recevoir une partie de la pension en tant qu'orphelins.
- la pension de réversion n'est attribuée au conjoint survivant que si le mariage a été prononcé 2 ans avant la fin de l'activité, ou sinon donc dans votre cas le mariage devra avoir avoir duré 4 ans.
- la pension est de 50% du salaire et sans conditions de ressource du conjoint survivant.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
effectivement c'est à peu prés la réponse que j'ai obtenue de la caisse
merci d'avoir participé à cette discussion
Robert
+1
(ma devise n'est pas "Tout est dans Tout" mais son contraire ... "Rien n'est dans Rien" 😉)
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(ma devise n'est pas "Tout est dans Tout" mais son contraire ... "Rien n'est dans Rien" 😉)
😎
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Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Bonjour
Si tu as une ex-femme et des enfants avec celle ci et un certain nombre d'années
de vie commune c'est ton ex femme qui va toucher la plus grande partie de ta retraite.
Si tu as eu plusieurs femmes, en fait elles se partagent ta retraite.
Par contre le fait que ta nouvelle femme ne soit pas Française je ne sais pas
comment cela se passe, mais une chose est sûre c'est que les droits à la retraite sont tres complex, donc comme on te l'a suggéré le mieux est de voir directement avec ta caisse...
j'ai effectivement 2 enfants avec mon ex épouse, simplement ils sont majeurs 24 et 25 ans.
Je suis divorcé, je pose la question car j'ai une amie thaie qui voudrai se marier avec moi.
Je ne suis pas contre mais je n'ai pas d'économie j'ai juste ma pension de fonctionnaire pour vivre et mon amie en thailande n'a pas de revenu.
Si je me marie avec elle il n'y aura pas de probléme d'argent tant que je serai vivant.
Je veux juste savoir si je devrai décéder avant que j'ai le temps de lui préparer un petit pécule:pourra-elle bénéficier de ma pension de réversion ?
Si c'est oui je me marie si c'est non il faut que je réflechisse car je n'ai pas envie qu'elle se retrouve demunie aprés.
Autant qu'elle trouve quelqu'un d'autre voilà c'est clair.
Robert
bonjour à tous,
je suis retraité, divorcé, mon ex femme s'est remariée, j'ai fait connaissance avec une Thaie.
Si je me marie avec elle, et si je decéde, peut-elle prétendre à la moité de ma pension.
Merci de répondre si vous connaissez le texte de loi.
je précise que mon amie n'a pas la nationalité française
Même si je sais que je devrai mourir demain je planterai quand même un pommier
Même si je sais que je devrai mourir demain je planterai quand même un pommier
Robert
La nationalité n'a rien à voir dans le fait de pouvoir toucher sa retraite ou la pension de réversion....Que votre épouse osit bretonne, ouzbeque, uruguayenne ou moldo valaque, si elle est mariée avec vous officiellement, il n'y a pas de problème. Reste qu'à votre décés, le plus tard possible, elle devra remplir les papiers administratifs et probablement pour celà venir en France...
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JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
La nationalité n'a rien à voir dans le fait de pouvoir toucher sa retraite ou la pension de réversion....Que votre épouse osit bretonne, ouzbeque, uruguayenne ou moldo valaque, si elle est mariée avec vous officiellement, il n'y a pas de problème. Reste qu'à votre décés, le plus tard possible, elle devra remplir les papiers administratifs et probablement pour celà venir en France...
D'autant plus que le pension de réversion n'est pas versée si elle n'est pas demandée. Donc il faudra que votre future veuve soit en capacité de faire les démarches. Et que le mariage ait été enregistré en droit français.
D'autant plus que le pension de réversion n'est pas versée si elle n'est pas demandée. Donc il faudra que votre future veuve soit en capacité de faire les démarches. Et que le mariage ait été enregistré en droit français.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
elle devra remplir les papiers administratifs et probablement pour celà venir en France...
J'y vois "quelque chose qui cloche" ...
La France pourrait refuser le visa et donc empêcher la personne de toucher sa reversion !
Logiquement, un Consulat doit pouvoir servir d'intermédiaire à mon sens, se renseigner ... (il y a des consuls -même honoraires- très serviables qui sont prêts à vous aider, j'en suis sûr)
🙂
J'y vois "quelque chose qui cloche" ...
La France pourrait refuser le visa et donc empêcher la personne de toucher sa reversion !
Logiquement, un Consulat doit pouvoir servir d'intermédiaire à mon sens, se renseigner ... (il y a des consuls -même honoraires- très serviables qui sont prêts à vous aider, j'en suis sûr)
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
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So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^