Voyage Thaïlande, Cambodge, Vietnam et Philippines dès le 1er juillet
by Kevsurf
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, nous sommes deux étudiants en médecine.
Nous avons décidé de partir 2 mois à la découverte de ces nouveaux pays.
Nous pensons atterir en Thailande le premier juillet 2011, y rester une quinzaine de jours puis traverser le Cambodge ( train, bus...) pendant cinq jours. Pour finir notre premier mois nous pensons rester une dizaine de jours au vietnam. Ensuite nous pensons prendre l'avion (ou bateau si possible?) pour rejoindre les philippines et y rester un mois pour découvrir les iles et y surfer.
Pensez vous qu'avec 1500euros (hors billets d'avion) cela est il possible? ( nous sommes plutot du style planche a la main et petits hotels)
Nous aimerions découvrir la beauté de la thailande du vietnam et du cambodge, mais aussi y faire la fete et un peu de shopping. Connaissez vous un itinéraire approprié à nos dates et à nos envies?
Pour ce qui est surf dans ces 3 pays ce n'est pas le but recherché, mais le surf est il possible?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses.
P.S: Toutes informartions est bonne à prendre.
La route n'appartient pas qu'aux riches
Bonjour Kev,
Pensez vous qu'avec 1500euros (hors billets d'avion) cela est il possible?
Par personne, oui. Cela fait 750 Euros par mois, assez pour vous loger dans des gh de bonne qualité, manger correctement et vous déplacer entre les pays. Je suppose que le plus gros du budget sera réservé au surf ? Par contre, si c'est pour vous deux, ce sera vraiment trop juste.
Pour ce qui est surf dans ces 3 pays ce n'est pas le but recherché, mais le surf est il possible?
Au Viet Nam, il vous faut aller à Mui Ne, c'est l'endroit où se retrouvent tous les surfeurs, ailleurs, il n'y a pas beaucoup de vent ni de vagues, surtout à cette période de l'année. Il y a aussi qq clubs de kite sur place.
Pour le Viet Nam depuis le Cambodge, le moins cher est de traverser le delta du Mekong, via Phnom Penh, descendre en bateau jusqu'à Chau Doc (attention, il vous faut avoir vos visas AVANT d'arriver à la frontière terrestre ou fluviale, sinon vous êtes bon pour remonter). Bien entendu, c'est la saison des pluies, donc il y aura peut-être des périodes arrosées, mais sur deux mois de voyage, ce n'est pas grave. Je ne vous conseille pas de perdre votre temps à aller sur Phu Quoc, vous risquez vraiment d'avoir un temps de cochon et l'île ne se prête pas au surf, la mer y est très calme. Pour la plongée, par contre, c'est un bon endroit, mais avec risque de mauvais temps en juillet et surtout en août. Un bon itinéraire pour visiter et s'amuser : Chau Doc - Can Tho (vous poser deux nuits au moins et aller voir le quartier près de l'hôtel Victoria, c'est là que se rassemble la jeunesse vietnamienne le soir) - Saigon (là, il y a de quoi visiter, sortir, boire, danser et... dépenser tous ses sous, soyez prudents😉). De là, un bus amènera à Mui Ne (surf, sorties, etc.) ou vous pouvez aussi faire un crochet par Da Lat (visites, montagne, etc.), un petit circuit à moto via Lak Lake, Buon Ma Thot (sur ce circuit, découverte des Hauts-Plateaux et minorités), Nha Trang (amusement et visites, mais pas de surf à ma connaissance), puis descendre sur Mui Ne (surf) et retour Saigon pour prendre votre vol vers les Philippines.
Voilà, c'est une idée parmi d'autres, deux semaines, ce n'est pas suffisant pour monter plus haut sauf si vous prenez un vol. Dans ce cas, Saigon - Da Nang en avion et vous balader qq jours dans la région de Hue - Hoi An et descendre via Buon Ma Thot, Lak, Da Lat vers Mui Ne.
Cordialement, Pat
Pensez vous qu'avec 1500euros (hors billets d'avion) cela est il possible?
Par personne, oui. Cela fait 750 Euros par mois, assez pour vous loger dans des gh de bonne qualité, manger correctement et vous déplacer entre les pays. Je suppose que le plus gros du budget sera réservé au surf ? Par contre, si c'est pour vous deux, ce sera vraiment trop juste.
Pour ce qui est surf dans ces 3 pays ce n'est pas le but recherché, mais le surf est il possible?
Au Viet Nam, il vous faut aller à Mui Ne, c'est l'endroit où se retrouvent tous les surfeurs, ailleurs, il n'y a pas beaucoup de vent ni de vagues, surtout à cette période de l'année. Il y a aussi qq clubs de kite sur place.
Pour le Viet Nam depuis le Cambodge, le moins cher est de traverser le delta du Mekong, via Phnom Penh, descendre en bateau jusqu'à Chau Doc (attention, il vous faut avoir vos visas AVANT d'arriver à la frontière terrestre ou fluviale, sinon vous êtes bon pour remonter). Bien entendu, c'est la saison des pluies, donc il y aura peut-être des périodes arrosées, mais sur deux mois de voyage, ce n'est pas grave. Je ne vous conseille pas de perdre votre temps à aller sur Phu Quoc, vous risquez vraiment d'avoir un temps de cochon et l'île ne se prête pas au surf, la mer y est très calme. Pour la plongée, par contre, c'est un bon endroit, mais avec risque de mauvais temps en juillet et surtout en août. Un bon itinéraire pour visiter et s'amuser : Chau Doc - Can Tho (vous poser deux nuits au moins et aller voir le quartier près de l'hôtel Victoria, c'est là que se rassemble la jeunesse vietnamienne le soir) - Saigon (là, il y a de quoi visiter, sortir, boire, danser et... dépenser tous ses sous, soyez prudents😉). De là, un bus amènera à Mui Ne (surf, sorties, etc.) ou vous pouvez aussi faire un crochet par Da Lat (visites, montagne, etc.), un petit circuit à moto via Lak Lake, Buon Ma Thot (sur ce circuit, découverte des Hauts-Plateaux et minorités), Nha Trang (amusement et visites, mais pas de surf à ma connaissance), puis descendre sur Mui Ne (surf) et retour Saigon pour prendre votre vol vers les Philippines.
Voilà, c'est une idée parmi d'autres, deux semaines, ce n'est pas suffisant pour monter plus haut sauf si vous prenez un vol. Dans ce cas, Saigon - Da Nang en avion et vous balader qq jours dans la région de Hue - Hoi An et descendre via Buon Ma Thot, Lak, Da Lat vers Mui Ne.
Cordialement, Pat
Pat, on vous remercie pour tous ces renseignements qui nous seront precieux. Notre budget principal n'est pas tourné vers le surf (ayant deja tout le matériel nécessaire). Notre budget sera de 1500 euros par personne pour les deux mois, qui sera tourné vers les logements, nourriture, visites, fetes...etc
Sur la thailande connaissez vous des coins sympa pour visiter et faire la fete ?
Des amis à nous, nous ont parlé de la full moon party, est ce que cela vaut vraiment le détour?
Est ce que le train est-il un bon moyen peu onéreux, est il préferable de prendre le bus ou louer une moto ?
Est-il possible de prendre un bateau au vietnam pour rejoindre les philippines ?
La vie aux philippines est-elle plus couteuse qu'au vietnam ? 750 euros est-ce suffisant pour un mois sachant qu'on voudrait faire deux ou trois iles?
🙂
La route n'appartient pas qu'aux riches
Bonjour,
Je suis désolée, mais je ne connais bien que le VN.
Sur la thailande connaissez vous des coins sympa pour visiter et faire la fete ?
Bangkok, assurément, prévoyez d'y rester 4 ou 5 jours et de sillonner en excursions d'une journée, par exemple. Pour la fête, c'est un des musts. Khao San Road, vous trouverez plein de discussions à ce sujet. Pendant la journée, les temples et le palais d'émeraude sont à voir, une balade dans les khlongs (canaux du fleuve Chao Praya), les malls pour faire vos courses, les quartiers typiques regroupant différentes nationalités etc.
Voici un lien vers mon blog Thailande : http://ottlnpac.canalblog.com/archives/thailande/index.html
et un autre, plus ancien, mais je n'ai pas relu le contenu : http://ottlnpac.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dVoyages
Cela vous donnera une idée des choses que j'ai découvertes aux alentours de Bangkok, Hua Hin et Phuket. Entre nous, Phuket peut en valoir la peine pour des vacances balnéaires, mais comme vous irez aux Philippines pour un mois, je ne pense pas qu'il soit judicieux d'y aller. Je ne connais pas Pattaya, il paraît que pour la "fête", c'est un des endroits les plus courus, mais bon... femme, 51 ans, je n'ai pas vraiment les goûts adéquats 😉
Question visites, en Thailande, le nord vaut la peine, Ayutaya etc. Chiang Mai aussi (demander à Tintina sur le forum, c'est une grosse fêtarde qui vit là-bas), si elle ne répond pas, je peux lui demander son adresse mail et vous la communiquer.
Des amis à nous, nous ont parlé de la full moon party, est ce que cela vaut vraiment le détour?
En ce qui me concerne, ce n'est pas du tout mon truc. D'après ce que j'en sais, c'est : alcool, sexe, drogue pendant 3 jours sur la plage, à vous de voir. Je ne pense pas que ce soit la meilleure façon de faire connaissance avec l'Asie 😉.
Est ce que le train est-il un bon moyen peu onéreux, est il préferable de prendre le bus ou louer une moto ?
En ce qui concerne le Viet Nam, je vous conseille vivement le bus. Il y a des minivans, des grands bus le jour et des grands bus couchette de nuit pour les longs trajets. Le coût est dérisoire, c'est propre et bien géré (compagnies touristiques MaiLinh, Phuong Trang, Sinh Tourist, Tra Lam Vien, les autres, méfiez-vous).
Est-il possible de prendre un bateau au vietnam pour rejoindre les philippines ?
Je ne pense pas, mais je ne me suis jamais posé sérieusement la question.
La vie aux philippines est-elle plus couteuse qu'au vietnam ? 750 euros est-ce suffisant pour un mois sachant qu'on voudrait faire deux ou trois iles?
Aucune idée, mieux vaut demander sur le forum "Phimippines".
Bonne préparation et n'hésitez pas si besoin.
Bon dimanche, Pat
Je suis désolée, mais je ne connais bien que le VN.
Sur la thailande connaissez vous des coins sympa pour visiter et faire la fete ?
Bangkok, assurément, prévoyez d'y rester 4 ou 5 jours et de sillonner en excursions d'une journée, par exemple. Pour la fête, c'est un des musts. Khao San Road, vous trouverez plein de discussions à ce sujet. Pendant la journée, les temples et le palais d'émeraude sont à voir, une balade dans les khlongs (canaux du fleuve Chao Praya), les malls pour faire vos courses, les quartiers typiques regroupant différentes nationalités etc.
Voici un lien vers mon blog Thailande : http://ottlnpac.canalblog.com/archives/thailande/index.html
et un autre, plus ancien, mais je n'ai pas relu le contenu : http://ottlnpac.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dVoyages
Cela vous donnera une idée des choses que j'ai découvertes aux alentours de Bangkok, Hua Hin et Phuket. Entre nous, Phuket peut en valoir la peine pour des vacances balnéaires, mais comme vous irez aux Philippines pour un mois, je ne pense pas qu'il soit judicieux d'y aller. Je ne connais pas Pattaya, il paraît que pour la "fête", c'est un des endroits les plus courus, mais bon... femme, 51 ans, je n'ai pas vraiment les goûts adéquats 😉
Question visites, en Thailande, le nord vaut la peine, Ayutaya etc. Chiang Mai aussi (demander à Tintina sur le forum, c'est une grosse fêtarde qui vit là-bas), si elle ne répond pas, je peux lui demander son adresse mail et vous la communiquer.
Des amis à nous, nous ont parlé de la full moon party, est ce que cela vaut vraiment le détour?
En ce qui me concerne, ce n'est pas du tout mon truc. D'après ce que j'en sais, c'est : alcool, sexe, drogue pendant 3 jours sur la plage, à vous de voir. Je ne pense pas que ce soit la meilleure façon de faire connaissance avec l'Asie 😉.
Est ce que le train est-il un bon moyen peu onéreux, est il préferable de prendre le bus ou louer une moto ?
En ce qui concerne le Viet Nam, je vous conseille vivement le bus. Il y a des minivans, des grands bus le jour et des grands bus couchette de nuit pour les longs trajets. Le coût est dérisoire, c'est propre et bien géré (compagnies touristiques MaiLinh, Phuong Trang, Sinh Tourist, Tra Lam Vien, les autres, méfiez-vous).
Est-il possible de prendre un bateau au vietnam pour rejoindre les philippines ?
Je ne pense pas, mais je ne me suis jamais posé sérieusement la question.
La vie aux philippines est-elle plus couteuse qu'au vietnam ? 750 euros est-ce suffisant pour un mois sachant qu'on voudrait faire deux ou trois iles?
Aucune idée, mieux vaut demander sur le forum "Phimippines".
Bonne préparation et n'hésitez pas si besoin.
Bon dimanche, Pat
Merci encore pour toutes ces informations, nous sommes pressé d'entamer notre voyage. :)
Nous n'avons pas trouver Tintina sur le forum, si vous pouvez nous donner son adresse électronique.
Le prix des visas est-il élevé ? Nous avons cherché sur différents sites mais nous n'avons trouvé rien de précis.
Mais apparament avec nos recherches effectuées, le visa n'est pas payant pour la thailande et les philippines ( moins de 21 jours )
N'ayant rien trouvé se rapportant a nos activités pour les philippines, est ce que quelqu'un a des informations a nous communiqué?
P.S: Très belles photos sur votre site, nous avons appris de nombreuses choses.😏
P.S: Très belles photos sur votre site, nous avons appris de nombreuses choses.😏
La route n'appartient pas qu'aux riches
juillet aout, saison des pluies, et des typhons, enormes les vagues, mortelles
par contre c est la bonne saison en indonesie
Pour le surf, il faut aller a Siargao, ile au nord-est de Mindanao, tapez ca sur votre moteur de recherches...Bon trip !
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Merci, vu vos informations nous allons peut etre partir sur sumatra plutot que les philippines.
Pensez vous que c'est un choix plus judicieux?
Avez vous une idée des visas qu'il nous faut pour notre voyage?
En attente de votre réponse, bien à vous.
kev
La route n'appartient pas qu'aux riches
20 dollars le visa au Cambodge. Vous pouvez le faire à l'aéroport en arrivant et il faut repayer pour sortir.
Gratuit pour la Thailande et le vietnam je ne sais pas je n'en ai pas eu besoin.
Pour les déplacements internes à l'asie il y'a plein de compagnies aériennes low cost. regardez sur bookingairasia.com
Bon voyage
Desole il n y a pas de surf au Vietnam, du kitesurf oui.
Pour le surf en Asie du Sud Est je ne vois que l Indonesie et... le Japon.
Pour le surf en Asie du Sud Est je ne vois que l Indonesie et... le Japon.
Desole il n y a pas de surf au Vietnam, du kitesurf oui.
Pour le surf en Asie du Sud Est je ne vois que l Indonesie et... le Japon.
Faux , aux philippines il y a des gros spot de surf universalement connus ou se concentrent nombres d australiens ( Mindanao ) , Boracay ( trop de monde ) et tout au nord de Luzon ( plages sauvages et paradisiaques , presques desertes avec de bonnes vagues ) Les philippines sont meilleurs marché que le vietnam ( on peu manger pour 1euro50 le logement de 5 a 15 euros pour 2 personnes
Pour le surf en Asie du Sud Est je ne vois que l Indonesie et... le Japon.
Faux , aux philippines il y a des gros spot de surf universalement connus ou se concentrent nombres d australiens ( Mindanao ) , Boracay ( trop de monde ) et tout au nord de Luzon ( plages sauvages et paradisiaques , presques desertes avec de bonnes vagues ) Les philippines sont meilleurs marché que le vietnam ( on peu manger pour 1euro50 le logement de 5 a 15 euros pour 2 personnes
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Bonjour,
Afin de gagner du temps, il nous arrive parfois de prendre un taxi longue distance pour effectuer certains trajets en Asie.
Nous envisageons d'effectuer le trajet PP - Sen Monorom en taxi privé. Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée du prix pour une telle distance (380km) ?
Par avance merci pour vos conseils.
Afin de gagner du temps, il nous arrive parfois de prendre un taxi longue distance pour effectuer certains trajets en Asie.
Nous envisageons d'effectuer le trajet PP - Sen Monorom en taxi privé. Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée du prix pour une telle distance (380km) ?
Par avance merci pour vos conseils.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle