Vingt jours entre amis sur la côte Ouest américaine, les grands parcs et Mont Rushmore
by Colleenette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
Toujours fidèle aux Etats-Unis, j'ai cette année convaincu des amis de se joindre à moi pour visiter la côte ouest et quelques incontournables comme Brice canyon, Zion, GC, Monument Valley, Las Végas, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles mais en plus nous voudrions visiter le mont rushmore. Notre voyage devrait s'étendre sur une vingtaine de jours en aout 2011.
Nous pensons louer une voiture et loger dans les motels avec piscine puisqu'il fera chaud ! Nous ne savons pas ce qui est préférable de choisir comme aéroport d'arrivée et de départ . N'est-ce pas plus cher quand on ne choisit pas l'aller retour sur une même destination ? Notre budget étant quand même limité nous recherchons des bons plans pour se loger, pour les visites et pour le vol.
Quelqu'un aurait-il un circuit à nous proposer pour rayonner sur la Californie et ne pas oublier le fameux présidents sculptés dans la pierre !!!
D'avance merci ! Votre aide m'a toujours été précieuse !
20 jours pour faire tous les parcs que tu cites + les villes et le Mount Rushmore (qui est très excentré par rapport à tout le reste!), c'est impossible!
Il va te falloir faire des choix. Pour le Mount Rushmore circuit au départ de Denver ou Salt Lake City incluant le Yellowstone et les Black Hills. Et abandonner la partie Californie.
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Il va te falloir faire des choix. Pour le Mount Rushmore circuit au départ de Denver ou Salt Lake City incluant le Yellowstone et les Black Hills. Et abandonner la partie Californie.
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C'est pourtant une des conditions à la participation d'un ami à ce voyage : il veut voir les présidents !!! Et si on trouve un vol intérieur ?? est-ce que cela nous couterait cher ??
En tout cas merci pour ta réponse même si elle me met dans l'embarras !! Cordialement
Tout d'abord, ITAT a raison. Trop de destinations pour 20 jours si vous devez visiter Mt. Rushmore.
Les prix pour les vols interieurs sont tres variable. Il n'y a pas d'aeroports importants pres de Rushmore. Je conseille un vol de Las Vegas a Denver. Un vol a Rapid City sera tres cher, je crois. Pour l'instant, de LAS a DEN coute seulement $65 pour un vol direct chez Southwest Airlines (il faut attendre quelques semaines afin de reserver chez Southwest pour aout). Comme ca, vous pouvez probablement eviter des frais d'abandon ("drop-off charges") pour la voiture louee en Californie. Donc un vol multi-destinations: France->SF; Denver->France. Aller simple LAS->DEN. Voiture louee de SF jusqu'a Las Vegas. Et puis une 2eme voiture Denver-Denver. Je conseille un minimum de 4 jours pleins entre l'arrivee a Denver et depart vers l'europe. Il y a beaucoup de choses a voir aux environs de Mt. Rushmore. Badlands NP 2h a l'est et Devils Tower un peu a l'ouest sont tous les deux plus interessants que Mt. Rushmore, a mon avis. Et il reste pas mal d'autre choses a visiter dans la region. Malheureusement la route entre Denver et les Black Hills n'est pas tres jolie; un peu plus que 6h en voiture.
Si vous zappez San Diego et Monument Valley, vous pouvez visiter les autres sites, mais il sera assez speed quand-meme. (mais combien de jours a SF, LA, et LV?) SF->LA (2 jours de route sur la belle cote), Las Vegas->Grand Canyon (North Rim seulement)->Zion->Bryce Canyon->Las Vegas.
Les prix pour les vols interieurs sont tres variable. Il n'y a pas d'aeroports importants pres de Rushmore. Je conseille un vol de Las Vegas a Denver. Un vol a Rapid City sera tres cher, je crois. Pour l'instant, de LAS a DEN coute seulement $65 pour un vol direct chez Southwest Airlines (il faut attendre quelques semaines afin de reserver chez Southwest pour aout). Comme ca, vous pouvez probablement eviter des frais d'abandon ("drop-off charges") pour la voiture louee en Californie. Donc un vol multi-destinations: France->SF; Denver->France. Aller simple LAS->DEN. Voiture louee de SF jusqu'a Las Vegas. Et puis une 2eme voiture Denver-Denver. Je conseille un minimum de 4 jours pleins entre l'arrivee a Denver et depart vers l'europe. Il y a beaucoup de choses a voir aux environs de Mt. Rushmore. Badlands NP 2h a l'est et Devils Tower un peu a l'ouest sont tous les deux plus interessants que Mt. Rushmore, a mon avis. Et il reste pas mal d'autre choses a visiter dans la region. Malheureusement la route entre Denver et les Black Hills n'est pas tres jolie; un peu plus que 6h en voiture.
Si vous zappez San Diego et Monument Valley, vous pouvez visiter les autres sites, mais il sera assez speed quand-meme. (mais combien de jours a SF, LA, et LV?) SF->LA (2 jours de route sur la belle cote), Las Vegas->Grand Canyon (North Rim seulement)->Zion->Bryce Canyon->Las Vegas.
C'est pourtant une des conditions à la participation d'un ami à ce voyage
Il est pas un peu ch.... votre ami? 😎 😏
Un conseil, dites lui de regarder une carte! Los Angeles - Mount Rushmore c'est plus de 2000km! Ça te viendrait à l'idée de dire, je veux visiter la France en 20 jours (villes + paysages naturels très espacés le tout en voiture) mais condition sine qua non je veux faire un saut à Bucarest! 🏴☠️
Il est pas un peu ch.... votre ami? 😎 😏
Un conseil, dites lui de regarder une carte! Los Angeles - Mount Rushmore c'est plus de 2000km! Ça te viendrait à l'idée de dire, je veux visiter la France en 20 jours (villes + paysages naturels très espacés le tout en voiture) mais condition sine qua non je veux faire un saut à Bucarest! 🏴☠️
Salut Thibaut,
C'est classique cette réaction de "rétrécir" les USA, je trouve... 🤪 Ca me fait penser au message "Tant qu'on est à Miami, on s'est dit qu'on pouvait pousser jusqu'à Las Vegas"... 😏 Heureusement que ledit ami n'impose pas de voir New York en plus ! 😉
C'est classique cette réaction de "rétrécir" les USA, je trouve... 🤪 Ca me fait penser au message "Tant qu'on est à Miami, on s'est dit qu'on pouvait pousser jusqu'à Las Vegas"... 😏 Heureusement que ledit ami n'impose pas de voir New York en plus ! 😉
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
Salut Virginie 😉
Oui et puis je sais pas pourquoi, si c'est symptomatique de l'époque dans laquelle on vit, on voit fleurir de plus en plus des circuits folkloriques sur le forum, et tu as beau leur expliquer par A + B que c'est pas possible 😛 ils te diront soit que les billets sont déjà réservés et que c'est impossible de changer les choses (dans ce cas pourquoi demander conseil sur le forum?) ou alors ils te soutiendront mordicus que c'est possible, souvent parce que l'agence de voyages leur a vendu le truc tel quel! Je ne parle pas ici de colleenette, je donne un avis général 😉
A moins de prendre l'option vol intérieur d'Aquilegia (mais en si peu de jours cela nécessite de sacrifier des lieux plus à l'Ouest) mais un vol intérieur juste pour un site qui doit se visiter à tout casser en 2h, est ce que ça vaut le coup??? 🤪 Déjà en 20 jours faut pas trop traîner pour pouvoir caser tout ça: Bryce canyon, Zion, GC, Monument Valley, Las Vegas, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles 🏴☠️
Oui et puis je sais pas pourquoi, si c'est symptomatique de l'époque dans laquelle on vit, on voit fleurir de plus en plus des circuits folkloriques sur le forum, et tu as beau leur expliquer par A + B que c'est pas possible 😛 ils te diront soit que les billets sont déjà réservés et que c'est impossible de changer les choses (dans ce cas pourquoi demander conseil sur le forum?) ou alors ils te soutiendront mordicus que c'est possible, souvent parce que l'agence de voyages leur a vendu le truc tel quel! Je ne parle pas ici de colleenette, je donne un avis général 😉
A moins de prendre l'option vol intérieur d'Aquilegia (mais en si peu de jours cela nécessite de sacrifier des lieux plus à l'Ouest) mais un vol intérieur juste pour un site qui doit se visiter à tout casser en 2h, est ce que ça vaut le coup??? 🤪 Déjà en 20 jours faut pas trop traîner pour pouvoir caser tout ça: Bryce canyon, Zion, GC, Monument Valley, Las Vegas, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles 🏴☠️
Pour moi c'est faisable si tu enlèves le Mont Rushmore. D'ailleurs, faire tant de kilomètres pour si peu, me semble dommage.
J'ai fait en 18 jours : Las Vegas, Grand Canyon , Monument Valley, Zion, Death Valley, Yosemite, San Francisco, Los angeles. Maintenant, tout ça c'est sans grandes randos. Mais ca dépend de ce que tu veux faire au juste sur les lieux visités.
Dans ton cas, en comptant des visites courtes : 3 jours à LA, 3 jours à SF, 3 jours à San Diego, 2 jours à LV, 1 à Zion, 1 à Brice, 1 à Monument Valley, on est à 14 + les déplacements qui peuvent bien entendu te coûter quelques journées au passage. Mais cela me semble très faisable.
Pour gagner un peu de temps, je te conseille d'attérir à Las Vegas et partir de SF. Tu fais une "boucle" sur les parcs aux alentours de Las Vegas, tu vas à LA et tu remonte sur SF. (ou l'inverse évidemment)
J'ai fait en 18 jours : Las Vegas, Grand Canyon , Monument Valley, Zion, Death Valley, Yosemite, San Francisco, Los angeles. Maintenant, tout ça c'est sans grandes randos. Mais ca dépend de ce que tu veux faire au juste sur les lieux visités.
Dans ton cas, en comptant des visites courtes : 3 jours à LA, 3 jours à SF, 3 jours à San Diego, 2 jours à LV, 1 à Zion, 1 à Brice, 1 à Monument Valley, on est à 14 + les déplacements qui peuvent bien entendu te coûter quelques journées au passage. Mais cela me semble très faisable.
Pour gagner un peu de temps, je te conseille d'attérir à Las Vegas et partir de SF. Tu fais une "boucle" sur les parcs aux alentours de Las Vegas, tu vas à LA et tu remonte sur SF. (ou l'inverse évidemment)
La Californie + les parcs de l'Utah et Arizona + Mr Rushmore en 20 jours => impossible.
Pour ce qui est du vol interne, la question à se poser est est-ce que cela vaut le coup d'ajouter un vol interne à un voyage pour une visite de 2 heures ? 😉
Si tu tiens à Rushmore, profites-en pour visiter "autour" : South Dakota, Wyoming (Yellowstone en tête de ligne), Grand Teton, etc... Et pourquoi une "descente" vers le Sud jusqu'à Moab (Canyonlands et Arches NP).
Si tu tiens à Rushmore, profites-en pour visiter "autour" : South Dakota, Wyoming (Yellowstone en tête de ligne), Grand Teton, etc... Et pourquoi une "descente" vers le Sud jusqu'à Moab (Canyonlands et Arches NP).
Si tous les cons volaient, il ferait nuit. (Frédéric Dard)
Merci pour toutes les infos concernant les locations et les trajets . Néanmoins je n'ai pas envie d'abandonner MOnument Valley qui est vraiment un bel endroit. Eventuellement zapper San Diego qui est une ville agréable mais que je connais déjà....dommage pour les magasins d'usine situés juste à la frontière !!!
Est-ce que tu aurais des tuyaux pour prendre les billets en Belgique comme certains l'ont proposé!! ou bien sur quel site doit on aller ?? En août généralement les prix sont assez élevés.
D'avance merci!
Je crois que je vais imprimer ta réponse et la lui produire !!! A vrai dire le circuit de Las Végas en passant par les parcs et de L.A à San Franciscco il l'a déjà fait et voulait ajouter une corde à son arc ! Mais je crois quand même que je vais devoir le convaincre d'abandonner ce projet !! Encore merci !
Je crois qu'il n'est pas question de rétrécir les USA mais simplement le plaisir de refaire un périple déjà effectué et d'y ajouter un intérêt supplémentaire !! Je crois qu'il n'avait pas dû lire l'échelle de la carte!!! ou il pensait à un vol intérieur (mais moi, pour 2h...selon les dires de certains!!! je ne sais pas si je vais adhérer !!!)
Merci quand même!
Comme j'ai répondu précedemment je crois que je ne vais pas adhérer au vol intérieur si la visite au mount rushmore ne prend que deux heures !!! Je vais essayer de négocier pour l'extraire du projet !! Merci pour la réponse.
Autre petite question , est-ce que quelqu'un sait où je dois m'adresser pour acheter mon billet au départ de la Belgique puisque cela semble moins cher ???
Merci et bonne soirée
Si tu tiens à la Californie + les parcs + le Mt Rushmore, il faut choisir un vol multi-destinations genre Arrivée à San Francisco / Vol interne Las Vegas - Rapid City / Retour depuis Rapid City. Ca peut donner ça :
1 - Arrivée à San Francisco 2 - San Francisco 3 - San Francisco 4 - San Francisco 5 - San Francisco > Monterey 6 - Monterey > Santa Barbara 7 - Santa Barbara > Los Angeles 8 - Los Angeles 9 - Los Angeles > Las Vegas 10 - Las Vegas 11 - Las Vegas > Zion 12 - Zion > Bryce (arrivée en fin de journée) 13 - Bryce 14 - Bryce > Page (Lake Powell) 15 - Page (Antelope Canyon et Horseshoe Bend) > Monument Valley (visite en fin d'aprèm) 16 - Monument Valley > Grand Canyon 17 - Grand Canyon > Las Vegas 18 - Vol interne Las Vegas / Rapid City 19 - Rapid City - Mt Rushmore et Crazy Horse Memorial 20 - Badlands ou Black Hills 21 - Vol retour depuis Rapid City
1 - Arrivée à San Francisco 2 - San Francisco 3 - San Francisco 4 - San Francisco 5 - San Francisco > Monterey 6 - Monterey > Santa Barbara 7 - Santa Barbara > Los Angeles 8 - Los Angeles 9 - Los Angeles > Las Vegas 10 - Las Vegas 11 - Las Vegas > Zion 12 - Zion > Bryce (arrivée en fin de journée) 13 - Bryce 14 - Bryce > Page (Lake Powell) 15 - Page (Antelope Canyon et Horseshoe Bend) > Monument Valley (visite en fin d'aprèm) 16 - Monument Valley > Grand Canyon 17 - Grand Canyon > Las Vegas 18 - Vol interne Las Vegas / Rapid City 19 - Rapid City - Mt Rushmore et Crazy Horse Memorial 20 - Badlands ou Black Hills 21 - Vol retour depuis Rapid City
Si tous les cons volaient, il ferait nuit. (Frédéric Dard)
Si tu connais déjà San Francisco, tu peux à ce moment là enlever un jour à S.F. au profit de la région autour de Rapid City, question de faire les Badlands ET les Black Hills. Si tu vas jusque dans la South Dakota, autant profiter du coin. 😉
Si tous les cons volaient, il ferait nuit. (Frédéric Dard)
Génial, cela pourrait coller et tout le monde serait content Je garde précieusement le programme ! As-tu un site de prédilection pour acheter les vols multi-destinations? Je vais chez GO voyages et expédia et n'i jamais vu cette suggestion ??? En tout cas merci pour ta réponse. Bonne soirée
Je note !! Merci !!
Selon les sites des compagnies aériennes et/ou des intermédiaires, il faut choisir ou cocher l'option "multi-destinations", ça peut s'appeler également "multi-stops", ou encore "multi-villes".
Si tous les cons volaient, il ferait nuit. (Frédéric Dard)
Attention, un vol interne de Las Vegas et Rapid City coute pour l'instant 4x plus cher qu'un vol de LV a Denver. Probablement, ca ne va pas beaucoup changer. Les vols internes aux petits aeroports sont presque toujours plus chers. Et avec presque toutes les compagnies sauf Southwest il faut payer pour les bagages (vols internes), et Southwest ne va pas a Rapid City. En plus, une correspondence quelque part serait necessaire pour aller a Rapid City. Et j'imagine aussi que le vol multi-destination avec un retour de Rapid City coutera plus qu'un retour de Denver.
Pour les billets Southwest, il faut les acheter directement: http://www.southwest.com/
Pour les billets Southwest, il faut les acheter directement: http://www.southwest.com/
Merci , je vais regarder !! Je n'avais jamais remarqué la présence de cette éventualité à cocher ou pas !!
Bonne soirée
Zut ! Cela ternit mon enthousiasme !! Je vais aller me renseigner ! Merci pour l'info ! Cordialement!
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Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
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I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
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After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
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Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
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We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!