Tout d'abrod un grand merci à tous ceux qui contribuent sur ce site qui en devient une source d'information intarissable.
Ce message s'adresse à tous ceux qui ont déjà été au vietnam et qui ont bien entendu comme tout visiteur qui se respecte voulu tout faire en peu de temps tout en évitant les touristes et avec un budget sur place pour 3 semaines de 500 - 1000 euros
Nous souhaitons partir mon amie et moi trois semaines en août (nos dates du mardi 9 au samedi 27) et nous avons un choix à faire :soit du sud au nordsoit du nord au sudLes billets multi-destinations départ Paris - Hanoi retour Ho Chi Minh - Paris ou inverse étant au mm prix cela ne rentre en rien dans la balance.
Nous n'avons pas encore dessiné notre parcours étant donné que celui-ci sera structuré par vos réponses :p
En gros n'hésitez pas à nous faire part de vos idées de parcours (par exemple pour ne pas perdre trop de temps nous souhaiterions effectuer un vol interne mais ne savons pas quel tranche zappée : soit hue-ho chi minh ou hue-hanoi à voir quelle partie aurait le plus "d'intérêts" bien qu'il y ait là matière à subjectivité ...).
Merci bcp de votre aide à tous.
Et Abalone et Larsay on vous remercie d'avance si vous avez le temps d'y répondre ou tout autre "expert ès vietnam" apprécié
n'hésitez pas à nous faire part de vos idées de parcours (par exemple pour ne pas perdre trop de temps nous souhaiterions effectuer un vol interne mais ne savons pas quel tranche zappée : soit hue-ho chi minh ou hue-hanoi à voir quelle partie aurait le plus "d'intérêts" bien qu'il y ait là matière à subjectivité ...).
J'aime mieux répondre à des questions précises que de balancer un catalogue🙂
Et pour éviter toute subjectivité autant que possible, il faut connaitre vos goûts et vos préférences.Si par exemple, vous n'aimez pas les plages et la mer chaude, alors vous évitez le paradis des plages du Centre Littoral et faites un jumping direct de HCM Ville à Danang et visiter Hoi An puis Huê et ensuite vol vers Hanoi si vous n'aimez pas voir les grottes les plus merveilleuses du monde de Phong Nha.
Par contre, si vous aimez bien l'histoire du VietNam avec un grand H, vous pouvez vous arrêter à Qui Nhon pour replonger dans la vie de Nguyên Huê, héros du VietNam, qui a su chasser les chinois hors des frontières.
Si vous préférez prendre le train, alors faites un arrêt à Ninh Binh pour visiter la région de Tam Cóc.
Ensuite, vous avez la baie d'Halong ou Bai Tu Long inévitable, et pour les riziè res du Nord, cela dépend si vous aimez la facilité, alors vous pouvez visiter Sapa et sinon vous pré fé rez éviter les touristes, vous Mu Cang Chay, Hoang Su Phi et Hà Giang (sans aller obligatoirement jusqu'à Dong Van, terre austère de granit et de vallées profondes.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Pour être plus précis sur le périple que nous souhaitons faire, voilà en quelques mots l'itinéraire qui peut s'effectuer dans les deux sens bien entendu :
- J1-J2 : Hanoi
- J2 nuit : Train vers Sapa
- J3-J6 : Sapa Trek et alentours
- J6 nuit : Train retour vers Hanoi
- J7-J9 : Baie d'Ha long ou autre baie du Nord
- J10-J11 : Train jusque Hué en passant par Nin Binh ? et Phong Nha ?
- J11-J14 : Visite du centre et alentours Hué et Hoi An
- J14 nuit : Train ou vol jusque Ho Chi Minh
- J15-J17 : Visite Ho Chi Minh et alentours
Est-ce que cela vous semble envisageable ? Est-ce trop "rapide en mode japonais qui veut tout voir mais finalement voit rien" (je précise que je n'ai rien contre les japonais il s'agit d'une gentille caricature ... très proche de la réalité tout de même 😛) ?
En gros on est un peu en conflit entre moi qui voudrais prendre plus de temps dans le Nord quitte à s'arrêter à Hoi An et mon amie qui veut voir Saigon
C'est une bonne approche très, qui est cependant contraire à ce que vous avez dit au préalable, car vous serez côte à côte avec les autres touristes jour et nuit🙂
Concernant Sapa, vous devriez diminuer d'un jour pour l'ajouter à Huê et Hoi An.
mon amie qui veut voir Saigon
Elle a tout à fait raison. Beaucoup de touristes passent à côté de la plaque.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
En effet j'ai bien conscience que le parcours type que l'on a prévu passe nécessairement par des sentiers ultra rebattus mais en mm tps en seulement 17 jours et en essayant d'en voir le plus on n'y coupe pas ...
Donc j'ajoute Saigon au parcours et c'est parti pour du train en pagaille entre le nord et le sud ... à moins que le bus soit une option intéressante ...
Je vais repondre en donnant aussi mon avis sur l ordre des visites a faire mais avant ca je vais aussi remercier Abalone pour ces supers recit de voyage qui m ont bien aide!
Je ferais donc du nord au sud pour plusieurs raisons. la 1ere est la mentalite des gens, le nord est plus tourne vers l appat du gain, ca laisse une mauvaise impression je trouve.
la 2eme raison serait plus au niveau du temps bien qu en aout je ne sais pas trop. actuellement il pleut presque tout les jours vers sapa et bac ha.
bac ha est tres tranquille en dehors du dimanche ( marcher repute) , pas forcement facile de trouver de quoi faire des trek mais super paysages!
j ai bien plus prefere bac ha que sapa!
Nim Binh, on n a plus envie de partir de la non plus, faites attention!
A partir de la, c est plus agreable de se deplacer, moins de pression...
bonnes preparations a vous!
si vous n'aimez pas les harceleurs, revendeurs, la cohue, le bruit, les embouteillages interminables, les vol a la tire, la pollution, les accidents de la circulation, ne restez pas a HCMVille ou HaNoi.
privilegiez Hue, HoiAn, NhaTrang
Encore merci pour vos contributions et donc on affine le parcours :
- J1-J2 : Hanoi
- J2 nuit : Train vers Ha Giang
- J3-J5 : Ha Giang Trek et alentours
- J5 nuit : Train retour vers Hanoi
- J6-J8 : Baie d'Ha long ou autre baie du Nord
- J9 : Train vers Nam Binh et visite
- J10 : Train vers Phong Nah et visite
- J11 : Train vers Hué et visite
- J12 : Train vers Hoi An et visite
- J13 : Train vers Nha Trang et visite
- J14-J15 : Train vers Vung Tau et visite du delta du Mékong
- J16-J17 : Train vers Ho Chi Minh et visite
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Train vers Ha Giang ? Pas de train et pas de trek !!!! HG, accessible en bus à partir de Lao Cai ou de Hanoi en bus de nuit couchettes, c'est la porte d'entrée d'une région époustouflante, celle de Dong Van, mais très difficile d'accès sans voiture et chauffeur à moins que la moto soit votre "truc". Il y a quelqu'un qui organise un trek d'une journée autour de Dong Van. Le trek, c'est plutôt Sapa où, contrairement à ce qui est souvent écrit, on peut très bien se retrouver sans touriste si on sait à qui s'adresser, et Bac Ha, où le trek est très différent de celui de Sapa et sans touristes, vu que très peu savent que ça existe. Pour plus d'infos, voilà !
Train non pour Nam Binh, mais pour Ninh Binh, (il ya aussi une navette de minibus) et moto-taxi Ninh Binh-Tam Coc (6 km). Ensuite, vs prenez le train de nuit Ninh Binh-Hué, très pratique (départ 22h40 arrivée Hué 10h ce qui vs donne le temps de visiter la Cité impériale l'AM et les superbes mausolées le lendemain, en moto-taxi, c'est le mieux je pense)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
- J1-J2 : Hanoi
- J2 nuit : Train vers Sapa
- J3-J5 : Sapa/Can Cau/Bac Ha et alentours
- J5 nuit : Train retour vers Hanoi
- J6-J8 : Baie d'Ha long ou autre baie du Nord
- J9 : Train vers Ninh Binh et visite de Ninh Binh
Et là commencent toutes les réflexions de J9 à J15
- J10 : Train vers Dong Hoi pour aller visiter Phong Nah (pas sûr que ce soit indispensable sinon sauter cette étape par train de nuit)
- J11 - J13 : Train vers Hué et visite de la cité impériale, des mausolées
- J13 : Train vers Da Nang et visite de Hoi An dans la journée
- J14 : Vol interne vers Ho Chi Minh
- J15-J16 : Visite du delta du Mékong
- J17 : Retour sur Ho Chi Minh et visit
Voilà ca nous semle un peu mieux mais on saute toute la partie sud est de la côte, dont Nha Trang ...
Abalone et Larsay qui semblez être à même de trancher ca vous parait faisable ?
On vient d'acheter les billets et on a pris finalement le parti de remonter du sud au nord et ce pour trois raisons :
1 - Prix : les billets étaient un peu moins cher
2 - Climat :à vous lire amis aoutiens, il pleut bcp bcp bcp en août dans le sud
3 - Intérêt personnel : autant prendre son temps dans le Nord et pas se speeder pour regagner l'aéroport ...
Donc voici l'itinéraire :
- J1-J2 : Ho Chi Minh
- J3-J4 : Détroit du Mékong
- J5 : Vol interne vers Da Nang
- J6 : Visite de Hoi An
- J7 -J8 : Train vers Hué et visite de la cité impériale, des mausolées
- J9 : Train vers Dong Hoi pour aller visiter Phong Nah (pas sûr que ce soit indispensable sinon sauter cette étape par train de nuit)
- J10 : Train vers Ninh Binh et visite de Ninh Binh
- J10 nuit : Train vers Hanoi
- J11 : Visite Hanoi
- J12-J14 : Sapa/Can Cau/Bac Ha et alentours
- J15-J17 : Baie d'Halong
- J18 : retour sur Hanoi
Et maintenant nous serions preneurs de bonnes idées pour organiser au mieux la visite du delta du mékong (agence ou directement sur place), et de même pour la baie d'halong sans compter le fameux trek mystérieux dont parle Abalone dans le Nord ...
Le delta, c'est facile. Vous pouvez vous débrouiller seuls en allant à Cantho, ou n'importe quel hôtel vs arrange ça. Halong, c'est plus compliqué : transports entre Hanoi et Halong (par Haiphong + bateau rapide, par Halong City), multiples possibilités de jonques à tous les prix de $4( (à fuir !) à plus de 300 par personne : jonque privée, publique de petite taille ou de grande taille, standard, supérieure ou deluxe). Il vaut mieux passer par une agence. J'en recommande 2 francophones, Oriental Bridge Travel (www.orientalbridge.com) et Parfum d'Automne (www.parfumdautomne.com) ; on va sûrement vs donner d'autres noms, donc étudier les itinéraires et les prix de chacune
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Merci pour ces éléments. Juste pour info et avoir un premier ordre d'idée, dans la baie d'halong on est obligés de passer par une agence ? ou alors c'est la foire d'empoigne à 16 euros la journée à 150 dans une jonque ? Et donc les deux agences que vous conseillez ont des ordres de prix aux alentours de 200-300 $ par personne pour 2 J en privé.
Au final si on devait classer ca ferait:un prix cassé avec touriste en pagaille et aucune garantie de sureté : 30 $ pour 2 joursun prix raisonnable avec une quinzaine de chambres : 100 $ pour 2 jours un prix élevé avec chambres privées : 200 $ pour 2 joursEst-ce le cas ? A votre avis les 100$ de delta entre raisonnable et luxueux sont légitimes ?
En tous cas merci pour toutes ces bonnes adresses et n'hésitez pas à nous en donner davantage ce qui nous aidera à décider
Vous n'êtes pas obligé de passer par une agence mais c'est plus simple , on vs prend à l'hôtel, vs emmène sur la jonque, repas, entrées, guide, kayaking etc. inclus ; je dis toujours que si on a pas le temps, c'est la meilleure solution.
Vous vous référez à des jonques privées (1 ou 2 cabines, de Standard à Luxe), qui sont effectivement chères, mais vous êtes les seuls passagers à bord et leur petite taille leur permet de passer là où les plus grosses ne peuvent pas. Vous n'êtes pas obligés de passer par une jonque privée ; certains opérateurs ont des PETITES (6 à 10 cabines) jonques collectives ; en fait, c'est cela que prend la majorité des touristes.
Laisse tomber les jonques à $30, c'est l'horreur ! Oriental Bridge, Parfum d'automne et autres agences proposent des jonques collectives Budget standard 6-10 cabines à 80$ par personne pour 2 jours ; je l'ai fait 2 fois (une 2 jours et une 3 jours), les jonques avaient 8 cabines (donc 16 pers à bord max.) et c'était impec les 2 fois. Si vs décidez de faire ça, exiger une jonque la plus petite possible
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
en fait la baie d'Along est un nid a touristes et a rabatteurs.
1 jour a Hoi An est bien, priez pour qu'il ne pleuve pas. pareil pour Hue.
Danang est interessant aussi, mais maintenant DN devient une ville tres riche+moderne
L'itinéraire prend forme de jour en jour et à chaque modification sa nouvelle question :
Dans la visite de la région du centre, nous arrivons par vol à DaNang et ensuite se pose la grosse question :
- aller directement à Hoi An le jour mm puis nuit à Hoi An et le lendemain train vers Hué ce qui nous permet de passer deux jours à Hué ensuite au lieu de 1 :
dimanche 14 août 2011Vol interne vers Da Nang et visite de Da NangNuitDa Nanglundi 15 août 2011Train vers Hoi An et visite de Hoi AnNuitHoi Anmardi 16 août 2011Train vers Hué et visite de la cité impérialeNuitHuemercredi 17 août 2011Train vers Dong Hoi pour aller visiter Phong NahNuitTrain de nuit vers Ninh Binhjeudi 18 août 2011Ninh BinhNuitNinh Binhvendredi 19 août 2011Train vers Hanoi
- prendre une nuit à Da Nang pour visiter la ville puis le lendemain aller à Hoi An pour ensuite repartir le surlendemain vers Hué (donc on perd un jour à Hué)
dimanche 14 août 2011Vol interne vers Da Nang et train vers Hoi AnNuitHoi Anlundi 15 août 2011Train vers Hué et visite de la cité impérialeNuitHuemardi 16 août 2011HueNuitHuemercredi 17 août 2011Train vers Dong Hoi pour aller visiter Phong NahNuitTrain de nuit vers Ninh Binhjeudi 18 août 2011Ninh BinhNuitNinh Binhvendredi 19 août 2011Train vers Hanoi
Merci de vos commentaires
La question est de savoir 1) si Danang a un intérêt dans un trip de 3 semaines 2) si l'itinéraire vous parait "intelligent" ...
La réponse est venue toute seule en cherchant un peu sur le forum et dans le LP : on peut aller direct de Da Nang à Hoi An en taxi de l'aéroport pour 15 $. Donc hop on saute Da Nang.
Par contre, on se pose toujours une question : qu'est-ce que vous feriez si vous vouliez faire Hoi An, Hué et Ninh Binh et que, accessoirement, vous souhaitiez voir les grottes de Phong Nha et le tout en atterrissant le jour J1 à 14h30 à Da Nang et que vous deviez être au jour J6 au soir à Hanoi pour prendre le train de nuit vers Sapa ?
Ou dit différemment comment organiser 6J entre Hoi An et Hanoi pour en voir le plus, sachant qu'on est vraiment pas contre de prendre des trains de nuit pour gagner du temps et qu'on veut à tout prix s'arrêter au moins 1 J à Hoi An, Hué et Ninh Binh ?
Une petite question aux amoureux du vietnam et avisés amateurs de HCMV ... nous atterrissons le mercredi à 16h à HCMV et repartons le lendemain matin très tôt dans le delta du mékong ... ensuite retour deux jours plus tard pour une fin d'après-midi sur HCMV et le lendemain matin jusqu'à 12h ... soit 3 demi-journées et deux nuits pour visiter une ville où il faudrait quinze jours au minimum pour faire le tour.
Sur les différents posts que l'on a parcouru, il s'avère que les éléments indispensables à voir sur HCMV sont :
- Le musée de la guerre et le musée d'histoire
- La cathédrale Notre-Dame et la grande Poste à côté
- Cholon (le quartier chinois) avec ses pagodes et son ambiance particulière, vivante et chaotique
- Le marché Ben Thanh
- L'ancien palais présidentiel
- se balader sans but précis, regarder la circulation, écouter les concerts de klaxons :)
- le quartier routard (Pham Ngu Lao / De Tham), tu peux zapper.
Afin d'essayer de faire le mieux sans en faire le moins ni le plus avez-vous des suggestions d'hôtel pour la première nuit et pour la deuxième nuit et de parcours envisagé ?
Un grand merci pour vos contributions.
PS à Larsay nous avons réserver une nuit chez Loan
on peut aller direct de Da Nang à Hoi An en taxi de l'aéroport pour 15 $. Donc hop on saute Da Nang
15$ ca fait 15x21.000= 330.000 dongs
conseil:
de HoiAn a DaNang et vice versa, prend le bus jaune, il est sympa, propre, et frequente par les touristes.
ca coute 10.000 d voire 15.000d.
garde tes dollards pour acheter quelque chose d'interessant et ne le donne pas au taxi
Je ne connais ni Danang ni Hoi An, mais je pense qu'il est préférable de coucher à Hoi An, qui semble plus "charmant" aux dire de tout le monde. Je pourrais vs répondre en connaissance de cause en jullet, car j'y vais pour 10-12 jours ce mois-ci et ferai mon "petit rapport" sur ce forum. De toute façon, 2 jours à Hué est un minimum, donc la question ne se pose pas.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Merci pour vos réponses sur Hoi An mais quid de la route à suivre sur HCMV ?
Dans l'idée on se dit que la première nuit on ferait bien le circuit proche de la rivière saigon en trouvant un hotel dans le quartier dong khoi puis la deuxième nuit dans cholon.
D'où la question avez-vous des adresses d'hotel / chambre d'hotes dans ces coins là pas trop occidentaux et où on peut trouver une chambre pour 2 à moins de 50 USD ?
Désolé je ne connais pas la route entre Hoi An et Saigon. A Saigon, j'ai bien aimé la petite pension Miss Loi, très tranquille à qq mn à pied de Tham, la rue des routards.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour à tous et tout d'abord un grand merci pour vos contributions à tous !
Voici l'itinéraire final :
- J1 : Ho Chi Minh : nuit Indochine Hotel
- J2-J3-J4 : Delta du Mékong avec Ethnic Travel
- J4 : Ho Chi Minh : nuit Arc en Ciel Hotel
- J5 : Vol interne vers Da Nang puis Hoi An
- J5 : Hoi An - An Huy Hotel
- J6 : Hoi An - An Huy Hotel
- J7 : bus vers Hué - nuit : Binh Minh Sunrise Hotel
- J9 : Hué puis train de nuit vers Ninh Binh
- J10 : Tam Coc - nuit Chez Loan
- J11 : Bus vers Hanoi puis train de nuit vers Sapa
- J12 - J15 : Trek région de Sapa avec Ethnic Travel
- J14 : Train de nuit retour sur Hanoi
- J15 - J17 : Baie d'Along et Bai Tu Long avec Ethnic Travel
- J17 : Hanoi - nuit : Heart Hotel
- J18 : Hanoi - nuit : Heart Hotel
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Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search.
I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Hi,
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I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
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I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
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Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
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Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
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Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
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From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
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I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
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Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.