Bonsoir à tous,
Nous aurions besoin des lumières des habitués pour préparer notre périple de 12 jours !
projet : - arrivée Tanger le 24 mars, durée des formalités et sortie de Tanger ? trajet direct vers les dunes de Merzouga pour une nuit de bivouac, combien de temps sans louper les belles choses à voir ? et lesquelles (forêt des singes ?) une nuit à l'oasis de Mezgarne pres de Tazarine une nuit à la kasbah Ellouze peut-être si quelqu'un(e) nous la recommande les autres nuits devront se faire en camping dans notre camionnette, nous sommes preneurs de bonnes adresses...
Le but est d'éviter les grandes villes, de voir de beaux paysages, mais de ne pas tomber en panne de gaz oil ou d'argent !!!!
Nous voudrions aussi acheter des meubles en fer forgé, mais les fabriquants sont bien rares sur le net !
Merci d'avance pour toutes les belles choses et bons itinéraires que vous nous indiquerez.
Bonne nuit et rêves de voyages !!!!!!!
Salut
Comment allez vous ?
J'ai bien lu votre message sur le Forum de Voyage et ca me fait un grand plaisir de vous ecrire, j'espere que tous va bien chez vous .
De tanger vous passes ver fes et la forét de sedre a azrou ou il y a des singes
de azrou a Merzouga il y avait environ 5 heures et 30 minute de route passent par la valley de ziz, route mille kasbah, Erfoud, Rissani .
pour les temperteur ou deserte si pas mal la journé 20° et la nuit11° mi si sec c'est bien .
pour le gazoil et largent: y a par tout les station de gazoil et des banque pour tirer largent
N'hesitez pas a m'ecrire si vous besoin de l'aide ou de plus des informations, je suis a votre desposition .
Je vous souhaite une tres bonne sejour au Maroc .
Tres amicalement .
youssef
Merci beaucoup Youssef pour ta réponse. Nous prenons note de tes précieuses indications et saurons te contacter sur Merzouga. Pour le commerce de meubles fer forge, tu as peut-être des fabriquants ?
En tous cas merci et bonne nuit
Nathadav
Salut
Les formalités sont toujours un peu longues au Maroc, ils sont assez tatillons. Soit surtout bien en règle.
A mon avis le meilleur trajet est: Larache, Meknès (à voir), Azrou (tu peux faire un détour par Ifrane à 17km, tu te croirais en Autriche), Midelt, Errachidia (avant tu vas passer dans les gorges du Ziz qui sont de toute beautè, et un peu après tu peux passer une nuit ou un moment à la source bleue du Meski), Erfoud et Merzouga. (Aprés Erfoud, sur la route de Merzouga, ne manques pas la carrière des fossiles). Au pied des dunes il y a plein (trop) d'auberges. De Tanger à Merzouga tu peux compter 2 jours
Le carburant et l'argent ne sont pas un problème, il y a des banques et des stations service un peu partout
A ta disposition
Tres court 12 jours, sutout pour aller au sud.
la route est longue, et il faut au moins 2 jours selon votre heure de sortie de bateau et surtout de douane pour descendre à Marzouga. et naturellement autant pour remonter.
Les singes, ils ne se visitent pas, vous en rencontrez éventuellement ou alors pas du tout (c'est plutot eux qui vous rencontrent).
Mezgarne, c'est pas encore très connu, c'est un bon plan.
La kasbah Ellouze m'a énormément décue, belle maison mais mauvaise ambiance.
Il y a plein de chose sympas et moins chéres à proximité.
Des campings il y en a partout, ne pas s'attendre à quelque chose qui ressemble à ce qu'on connait en Europe. de petis enclos avec 10 emplacements parfois, des sanitaires sommaires.
Se munir du guide des campings du Maroc:
http://www.extrem-sud.com/guides.php
J'aime bien:
dans les gorges du Dades: auberge berbere de la montagne.
dans les gorges du todghra : camping Atlas
le mazout, il y en a partout, mais attention le prendre près des grandes villes dans les pompes de grande marque.
les banques il y en a partout.
il n'y a pas d'ikea spécialisé en fer forgé, ce ne sont que des petit artisans qui ne savent pour la plupart ce qu'est le net, on les trouve dans les souks, à marrakech ou à Fes, par exemple, on peut leur commander ce que l'on souhaite, ou alors dans les magasins de déco hors de prix, comme à Casa, ou à Rabat.
Raoulx t'a bien résumé la situation, même les guides Gandini sont cités 😎.
Au niveau des bivouacs tu peux sortir un peu de la route et passer une nuit tranquille. Quand nous allons au Maroc, nous partons 5/6 semaines et nous allons aux terrains de camping que pour la lessive 😏 .
Tu peux visiter notre site http://perso.wanadoo.fr/un-land-et-des-etoiles/
Nous y avons mis deux récits de nos voyages au Maroc ainsi qu'un extrait de film et une foire aux questions sur les voyages au Maroc en voiture. Tu aura une idée de ce qui vous attend ...
Fabrice
Merci beaucoup d'avoir répondu et pour les conseils.
Si il y a mieux que la Kasbah Ellouze, les adresses m'intéressent.... Ca a l'air vraiment très joli, mais l'ambiance est importante pour nous, c'est notre voyage de noces, et nous ne passerons qu'une seule nuit à l'hotel !
Merci d'avance
pour un voyage de noces, à 2, une adresse de charme, maison d'hotes :
Dar Aicha, 072 31 73 32
Accueil charmant de Dominique, et de sa petite équipe, avec Aicha, une perle du fourneau. calme absolu et rafinnement.
!!!!
Nous voudrions aussi acheter des meubles en fer forgé, mais les fabriquants sont bien rares sur le net !
Merci d'avance pour toutes les belles choses et bons itinéraires que vous nous indiquerez.
Bonne nuit et rêves de voyages !!!!!!!
bonjour pour les autres questions je crois que l on tas repondu Pour le fer forgé`
si tu passes par ouarzazate tu passes l oued de fint et ( je crois la 1er rue a droite) a 50metres et sur ta gauche tu verras plein de ferraille et des ouvriers avec des grilles ou autre fer forgé ils te font ce que tu veux le temps que tu vas faire ton circuit et je ne te parle pas du prix qu ils demandent ni du beau travail
a plus
bonjour a tanger pour rantrer au maroc, ça prend pas beaucoup de temps, il afut preparer les papiers de police et de voiture ds la bateau, et tous tomponer ds le bateau
pur les formaliter de douane a l entrer ça prend pas de tems, par contre a la sortie vous risquez de vous afire fouiller par la douane spécial de drogue, ça tombe souvent sur des viecules de jeunes, mais, bon, ça peu prendre qlq min, comme des heures. de tanger a merzouga, il afut conter une journéé de route, 8 a 10 heures de route, de merzouga a tazarin, presque 3, 5 a 4 heures de routes, tazarine ouarzazte vers 4 a 5 heures aussi....si vous avez des question j ai fais le circuit mezouga warazazate l été denier...
mais j'ai déja visité le site.
Ce que je voudrais savoir.
Le cadre est-il sympa, car vu la carte du Maroc.
C'est le côté du desert de cailloux. A moins que je me trompe ????
L'acceuil, le bivouac ect.....
perso je ne connais pas, mais la personne qui me l'a conseillé fait partie des mes bons informateurs, donc j'ai communiqué .
je voulais y aller en juin, mais pas eu le temps.
pour le désert de cailloux (regs), il ne faut pas oublier que c'est la principale caractéristique des déserts "tropicaux", que les ergs et les dune de sable sont minoritaires dans le sahara, et encore plus au Maroc qui ne possède que 2 ou 3 ergs, dont Chebbi, Chegagga, qui, vu leur fréquentation croissante, ne mériteront plus le nom générique "désert" mais de parc d'attraction avec dunes pour 4x4, quads, et éventuellement dromadaires, s'ils ne sont pas trop effarés.
Mais je pense que Marie Aude qui rode sur ce forum, répondra en détail à tes interrogations.
Je suis encor à me poser des questions sur l'oasis de Mezgarne.
J'ai pris contact avec eux pour faire un circuit de 4 jours.
Le tarif est très interressant et la personne qui organise cela est vraiment de bon conseil. Mais ?????
Se qui m'interroge c'est le lieux, boff...... Mon mari, ça ne l' emballe pas car Je ne peux pas visualisé leur tente (bivouac) dans leur site. Un petit aperçu de l'exterieur mais je ne vois pas la tente ou nous allons dîner pour la fête de l'interieur.
Je ne voudrais pas être déçu car je fête mon Anniversaire la bas.
Elle me propose Au menu Demi- Mechoui de chèvre et musiciens Gnaouas çà à l'air d'être super sympa pourtant !!!!!
Il y a aussi au programme une excursion prévu dans le desert au dunes de l'erg chebbi avec une nuit en bivouac.
Encor et encor, je me pose des questions. Pas de toilette !!! Je peux comprendre que dans le desert ça ne peut-pas être comme à l'hotel " tous le confort " . Mais au moins des WC. Aïe !!!!!
Apparement dans son bivouac à Merzouga, les toilettes sont très sommaires.
Et la literie, au sol direct avec des couvertures. Il faut que je me l'immagine car la je ne peux pas avoir des photos.
La personne me l'a bien préciser, sinon y a la possibilitée de dormir à l'auberge.
Je me prend peut-être la tête ou il n'y a pas lieux d'être.
Mais je demande quand même conseil. Car j'ai fait appelle à d'autre organisme d'excursion et eux me propose des tentes de Luxe avec un peu de confort ( lit et Wc ).
Vers les Dunes de Chigaga.
Quoi, faire .
Svp donner moi une réponse car cela urg. je part bientôt au Maroc.
Bonjour Sissitop,
Nous avons passé une nuit à l'oasis de Mezgarne en Avril 2006 : c'est super
Alors bien sûr il faut aimer les plans bien typiques !
En fait, l'endroit est fabuleux, rien à des kilomètres à la ronde, que du désert de sable et rocailles ! mais on ne peut être que conquis !
C'est un terrain clos de murs à la façon de la bas, avec plusieurs tentes berberes, une plantation de palmiers chouchoutés par un papi génial.
Nous n'avons pas mangé sous une tente mais à une terrasse couverte, et c'était bonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
Il y a des sanitaires douches wc très propres.
Les plans à Bilal et Marie Aude font un peu peur au début, c'est vrai, mais après on en redemande!!!!
Je vous promet une nuit inoubliable. Ne manquez ni le couché ni le levé de soleil !!
Vous pouvez faire confiance à Bilal et Marie Aude, nos meilleurs moments au Maroc, nous leur devons !
Si vous allez vers Ouarzazate, de manquez pas Dar Aicha et faites un gros bisous à Dominique de la part des bourguignons qui ont un gite !
Bon voyage au Maroc ! nous y retournons au printemps pour 5 semaines avec notre petit garçon...
Hi there, I m planning a 3-week trip in November after having visited Morocco extensively 30 years ago. I m thinking of taking the bus to Ouarzazate, then…
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊