Malheureusement, en raison de la situation économique désastreuse de ce pays, les infrastructures ont de la peine à suivre. Il n'y a pas suffisamment de voitures pour satisfaire la demande, les hôtels sont pleins malgré une augmentation massive des tarifs depuis le 1er février 2012. A titre d'exemple, une chambre à 23$ en 2011 est à 62$ aujourd'hui. A Chaung Tha, le bungalow au prix de 22$ passe quant à lui à 59$.
Birmanie 2012: les prix explosent!
by Clavdia
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Depuis le début de l'année, les prix s'envolent en Birmanie. C'était à prévoir, car les touristes affluent en masse tout à coup, persuadés que la démocratie est enfin au rendez-vous ...
Malheureusement, en raison de la situation économique désastreuse de ce pays, les infrastructures ont de la peine à suivre. Il n'y a pas suffisamment de voitures pour satisfaire la demande, les hôtels sont pleins malgré une augmentation massive des tarifs depuis le 1er février 2012. A titre d'exemple, une chambre à 23$ en 2011 est à 62$ aujourd'hui. A Chaung Tha, le bungalow au prix de 22$ passe quant à lui à 59$.
Malheureusement, en raison de la situation économique désastreuse de ce pays, les infrastructures ont de la peine à suivre. Il n'y a pas suffisamment de voitures pour satisfaire la demande, les hôtels sont pleins malgré une augmentation massive des tarifs depuis le 1er février 2012. A titre d'exemple, une chambre à 23$ en 2011 est à 62$ aujourd'hui. A Chaung Tha, le bungalow au prix de 22$ passe quant à lui à 59$.
Et que de dire de la hausse des billets d'avion qui vient tout juste d'être annoncée. Les vols intérieurs vont augmenter de 15 à 25 dollars.
Pour exemple, un Rangoon-Mandalay avec la compagnie Air KBZ va passer de 82 à 97 dollars.
😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😕
Coucou à vous 2 , les Birmanophiles !!!😉
Beau Dimanche Rangoon
Coucou à vous 2 , les Birmanophiles !!!😉
Beau Dimanche Rangoon
je reviens de Birmanie et je pense l'avoir signalé aussi: les prix ont augmenté de 50% par rapport à 2011, surtout dans le domaine "budget moyen" qui est le mien; malheureusement l'afflux des touristes n'améliore pas les infrastructures qui restent les mêmes et qui se dégradent sans entretien...
Malgré ces augmentations, les Birmans ont besoin du tourisme, surtout les petites infrastructures (pensions et petits hôtels) car l'économie étant au point mort - à part pour certains tycons proches du pouvoir - c'est la seule manière de gagner leur vie.
Si je fais remarquer que les prix ont augmenté ce n'est pas pour décourager le voyageur, mais pour le rendre attentif que les prix bas, et bien c'est terminé ! Pourtant en regardant les budgets de mes précédents voyages dans ce pays, les hôtels où j'ai l'habitude de descendre n'ont pas beaucoup augmenté leurs prix...😛 Par contre, la catégorie moyenne supérieure et bien oui, les prix sont doublés, car c'est dans ces hôtels que les agences installent leur clients !
Si je fais remarquer que les prix ont augmenté ce n'est pas pour décourager le voyageur, mais pour le rendre attentif que les prix bas, et bien c'est terminé ! Pourtant en regardant les budgets de mes précédents voyages dans ce pays, les hôtels où j'ai l'habitude de descendre n'ont pas beaucoup augmenté leurs prix...😛 Par contre, la catégorie moyenne supérieure et bien oui, les prix sont doublés, car c'est dans ces hôtels que les agences installent leur clients !
les Birmans ont besoin du tourisme, (...) c'est la seule manière de gagner leur vie.
et hop le revoilà, le fameux fantasme du touriste sauveur...🤪
je ne sais pas si c'est parce qu'au myanmar les touristes n'y rencontrent que des gens qui vivent du tourisme, qu'ils croient que tous les birmans en vivent...🤪
c'est une infime et minuscule proportion des birmans qui ont besoin du tourisme, et ce ne sont pas les plus démunis...
et hop le revoilà, le fameux fantasme du touriste sauveur...🤪
je ne sais pas si c'est parce qu'au myanmar les touristes n'y rencontrent que des gens qui vivent du tourisme, qu'ils croient que tous les birmans en vivent...🤪
c'est une infime et minuscule proportion des birmans qui ont besoin du tourisme, et ce ne sont pas les plus démunis...
Pas forcément.;; C'est une idée très répandue et pas toujours vérifiée...En Thaïlande par exemple, le tourisme (y compris le marché domestique) représente 6% du PIB...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Bonjour à tous. Nous sommes rentrés hier après 1 mois passé entre Laos et Birmanie. Nous connaissons bien ce pays où nous allons depuis plus de 10 ans maintenant et nous sommes malheureusement arrivés à la conclusion que ce serait sûrement la dernière fois car il devient compliqué d'y voyager en tant qu'individuel à cause des augmentations de prix et des disponibilité aussi bien dans les GH et hôtels de catégorie moyenne que pour l'obtention d'un billet d'avion. Les groupes de riches "silver trotters" (et je peux me permettre d'en parler sans être taxée de jeunisse étant moi même dans cette tranche d'âge) ont un peu gâchés le plaisir que j' ai toujours éprouvé en visitant ce pays. Même des régions moins faciles d'accès ne sont pas épargnées et Ngapali est devenue une sorte de Floride. Je me pose aussi la question de savoir ce que vont devenir les petites GH, restos, guides et agences qui n'ont pas la capacité pour recevoir les groupes si les individuels comme vous et moi cessons de venir. Lu aujourd'hui sur le site d'ananda : les hausses des billets d'avion (entre 15 et 25$) sont réclamées aux passagers munis de billets payés et confirmés avant de pouvoir monter dans l'avion. Les bras m'en tombent !!! J 'espère que vous serez nombreux à me démentir et ainsi me redonner l'envie de revenir voir ces birmans merveilleux et leur radieux sourire.
RESMES
Ngapali asile de vieux ! Faudrait pas pousser mémé dans les orties !!
Donc, continuons de visiter ce pays si particulier, mais surtout pas en voyage organisé, car, comme je le disais plus haut, ce sont les agences qui font les prix en choisissant des hôtels de qualité supérieure qui adaptent leurs prix pour les groupes. Comme tu le dis justement, les "silver trotters", retraités aisés, voyagent beaucoup et les Birmans auraient tort de ne pas profiter de la manne qui s'offre ainsi à eux...
Personnellement, je continuerai de voyager dans ce pays et de me rendre dans les guesthouses que je connais et qui n'ont pas ou presque pas augmenté leurs prix. (20$ en 2003 et 23 en 2011) !!! pas de quoi fouetter un chat. 😉
Personnellement, je continuerai de voyager dans ce pays et de me rendre dans les guesthouses que je connais et qui n'ont pas ou presque pas augmenté leurs prix. (20$ en 2003 et 23 en 2011) !!! pas de quoi fouetter un chat. 😉
Ngapali a toujours été, depuis le début, le lieu de prédilection de voyageurs fortunés, plus âgés que la moyenne et qui peut se permettre de payer des hôtels de luxe tels ceux construits à cet endroit ! Asile de vieux, non, mais sorte de ghetto pour touristes privilégiés, certainement. On y trouve tout le confort occidental, ce qui n'est pas le cas dans la plupart des hébergements du pays.
Puisque tu as l air de bien connaître le coin, tu dois savoir qu'il y a tout de même 2 GH qui ont toujours eu des prix acceptables pour l'endroit (30 à 40$) mais elles aussi ont augmenté leurs prix et je t'assure que jusqu'à cette année il y avait toujours eu une clientèle de voyageurs indépendants et plus jeunes dans ces GH.
RESMES
Ngapali a toujours été, depuis le début, le lieu de prédilection de voyageurs fortunés, plus âgés que la moyenne et qui peut se permettre de payer des hôtels de luxe tels ceux construits à cet endroit ! Asile de vieux, non, mais sorte de ghetto pour touristes privilégiés, certainement. On y trouve tout le confort occidental, ce qui n'est pas le cas dans la plupart des hébergements du pays.
Vous n'avez pas connaissance des hotels de luxe à Rangoon, Bagan, Inle ?
Vous n'avez pas connaissance des hotels de luxe à Rangoon, Bagan, Inle ?
tu dois savoir qu'il y a tout de même 2 GH qui ont toujours eu des prix acceptables pour l'endroit (30 à 40$) mais elles aussi ont augmenté leurs prix .
Vu le nombre de guesthouses à Yangon, je ne sais pas de quels GH tu parles. D'autre part des GH à 30 / 40$, c'est déjà du middle class supérieur...😉😉😉 et ce n'est pas dans mes prix 😊
Vu le nombre de guesthouses à Yangon, je ne sais pas de quels GH tu parles. D'autre part des GH à 30 / 40$, c'est déjà du middle class supérieur...😉😉😉 et ce n'est pas dans mes prix 😊
Et pendant ce temps-là, le peuple birman est dans la rue (hier à Mandalay) pour soutenir la candidature d'Aung San Suu Kyi.
Et que de dire de la hausse des billets d'avion qui vient tout juste d'être annoncée. Les vols intérieurs vont augmenter de 15 à 25 dollars. Pour exemple, un Rangoon-Mandalay avec la compagnie Air KBZ va passer de 82 à 97 dollars.
Effectivement. Suivant information de l'agence qui organise notre séjour (et qui nous a retransmis le mail reçu de AIR BAGAN qui vaut pour toutes les compagnies avec motif " fuel price increase ") l'augmentation est appliquée y compris pour les billets déja payés. Les 15 à 25 $ seront à régler lors du check-in ! Je souhaite une bonne soirée à toutes et tous.
Effectivement. Suivant information de l'agence qui organise notre séjour (et qui nous a retransmis le mail reçu de AIR BAGAN qui vaut pour toutes les compagnies avec motif " fuel price increase ") l'augmentation est appliquée y compris pour les billets déja payés. Les 15 à 25 $ seront à régler lors du check-in ! Je souhaite une bonne soirée à toutes et tous.
Vos messages ont un arrière goût de lutte des classes que je trouve inapproprié pour ce pays que j'aime tant . La première fois que je suis allé en Birmanie c'était en 1973, à l'époque seul un visa de 7 jours permettait de visiter ce pays , j'ai été bien sûr conquis par la Birmanie et je me suis promis d'y retourner.
Depuis 2008 j'y suis retourné 3 fois .Je suis comme certains disent un" silvertrotter" de 70 ans, par mon travail je me suis constitué une retraite acceptable qui me permet de sillonner la Birmanie et d'aimer ce pays merveilleux et d'aller '"crime de lèse majesté" faire un séjourà Ngapali
Il n'est pas indispensable de voyager sac à dos et fréquenter les GH pour aimer et respecter les Birmans
Pascal
Il n'est pas indispensable de voyager sac à dos et fréquenter les GH pour aimer et respecter les Birmans
Bonjour somatheeram Le respect, c'est qq chose qui se perd, Un exemple recent lu par ailleurs qui personnelement me glaçe:
un trip sur le fleuve pour rencontrer le village des "femmes tatouées" (c'est le voyage qui est interessant sur le fleuve !!! pas vraiment le village)
Qui dit village dit villageois, enfants, femmes, hommes, Quoi de plus beau justement de s'arreter pour échanger un sourire, un regard, qui dit:
Mais ne connaissant pas (encore) la birmanie et son peuple, peut être suis je dans l'erreur ?
Bonjour somatheeram Le respect, c'est qq chose qui se perd, Un exemple recent lu par ailleurs qui personnelement me glaçe:

un trip sur le fleuve pour rencontrer le village des "femmes tatouées" (c'est le voyage qui est interessant sur le fleuve !!! pas vraiment le village)
Qui dit village dit villageois, enfants, femmes, hommes, Quoi de plus beau justement de s'arreter pour échanger un sourire, un regard, qui dit:
Mais ne connaissant pas (encore) la birmanie et son peuple, peut être suis je dans l'erreur ?
sous cet angle ! pourquoi pas , aprés avoir baroudé 20 jours , un peu de repos au calme est le bienvenu! dieu merci , il n'y a pas encore de jet-ski, parachute ascentionnel et autres gadgets qui abrutilisent l'estivan !! pour finir , le logement est cher, il est vrai mais la restauration des plus hônnete !
C'est un peu vrai. On se demande quelquefois en lisant certains posts si le seul intérêt de la Birmanie n'était pas d'être un pays bon marché. Qu'on se préoccupe du budget, rien de plus normal, mais qu'on se plaigne des prix, j'ai un peu de mal à comprendre : si on veut voyager, on essaye de choisir une destination en conformité avec ses moyens.
C'est vrai aussi les prix ont augmenté, eh! bien on s'adapte. Combien de fois n'ai-je pas vu le prix demandé par mon voyagiste français augmenter à cause la surcharge-carburant; d'ailleurs, d'ailleurs cette clause était écrite souvent en petits caractères dans le contrat, c'était prévu... Les cies birmanes ne font qu'appliquer des pratiques qui ont cours ailleurs depuis longtemps alors pourquoi le leur reprocher à elles ? pcqu'elles appartiennent à la junte ou à son entourage sans doute, mais dans ces conditions, que ceux qui ont des réticences en raison du régime, et c'est leur droit, écartent la Birmanie de leurs projets.
Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait lieu de polémiquer là-dessus : donner des infos aux autres, c'est bien et c'est tout l'intérêt d'un forum dit de voyages. Le reste me paraît vain puisque chacun est libre et responsable, au moins chez nous.
C'est un peu vrai. On se demande quelquefois en lisant certains posts si le seul intérêt de la Birmanie n'était pas d'être un pays bon marché. Qu'on se préoccupe du budget, rien de plus normal, mais qu'on se plaigne des prix, j'ai un peu de mal à comprendre : si on veut voyager, on essaye de choisir une destination en conformité avec ses moyens.
C'est vrai aussi les prix ont augmenté, eh! bien on s'adapte. Combien de fois n'ai-je pas vu le prix demandé par mon voyagiste français augmenter à cause la surcharge-carburant; d'ailleurs, d'ailleurs cette clause était écrite souvent en petits caractères dans le contrat, c'était prévu... Les cies birmanes ne font qu'appliquer des pratiques qui ont cours ailleurs depuis longtemps alors pourquoi le leur reprocher à elles ? pcqu'elles appartiennent à la junte ou à son entourage sans doute, mais dans ces conditions, que ceux qui ont des réticences en raison du régime, et c'est leur droit, écartent la Birmanie de leurs projets.
Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait lieu de polémiquer là-dessus : donner des infos aux autres, c'est bien et c'est tout l'intérêt d'un forum dit de voyages. Le reste me paraît vain puisque chacun est libre et responsable, au moins chez nous.
Beaucoup de sagesse dans cette analyse , mais sur un forum aussi précieux que celui-ci, il paraît important de dire que la vie (hotels, transports, pourboire, visites etc...) coutent assez chers à la longue et que le voyageur habitué aux pays asiatiques, ne s'imagine pas d'une manière générale que le coût de la vie (pour les touristes, je précise) soit onéreux que celui des pays limitrophes. Il s'agit d'information et en aucun cas d'une critique ! Hormis cela c'est un pays surprennant et le voyage en vaut largement la peine !!
Beaucoup de sagesse dans cette analyse , mais sur un forum aussi précieux que celui-ci, il paraît important de dire que la vie (hotels, transports, pourboire, visites etc...) coutent assez chers à la longue et que le voyageur habitué aux pays asiatiques, ne s'imagine pas d'une manière générale que le coût de la vie (pour les touristes, je précise) soit onéreux que celui des pays limitrophes. Il s'agit d'information et en aucun cas d'une critique ! Hormis cela c'est un pays surprennant et le voyage en vaut largement la peine !!
bonjour
pas bien vieille sur le forum je suis toujours un peu surprise des petits conflits et de la 'supprématie' de certains qui se croient les meilleurs voyageurs etc...
Je crois simplement que chacun fait selon ses choix , son coeur, ses envies , ce qui lui semble le mieux pour lui et parfois pour les autres...n'est pas le choix des autres...
Nous partons en Birmanie en fevrier 2013 , nous n'avons pas réflechi au prix on s'est dit que ce sera surement bcp d'argent, on économise on compare, nous avons les tempes legerement grises , mon mari travaille bcp on ira à Ngapali dans un bel hotel profiter un peu , avant on ira renconter le peuple Birman et surement que l'on trouvera le voyage très beau alors que d'autres hurleront ...devant nos choix.
voilà ...😊
nous avons demandé 2 devis White Lotus Ananda et on attends gulliver nous n'avons pas envie de partir sans aide
voilà ...😊
nous avons demandé 2 devis White Lotus Ananda et on attends gulliver nous n'avons pas envie de partir sans aide
Et que de dire de la hausse des billets d'avion qui vient tout juste d'être annoncée. Les vols intérieurs vont augmenter de 15 à 25 dollars.
Pour exemple, un Rangoon-Mandalay avec la compagnie Air KBZ va passer de 82 à 97 dollars.
Ooohhh, les pauvres petits touristes qui vont devoir payer leur billet d'avion 15% plus cher ! C'est vrai que c'est révoltant ! Bientôt ils vont se plaindre au général Than Shwe...😕
Ooohhh, les pauvres petits touristes qui vont devoir payer leur billet d'avion 15% plus cher ! C'est vrai que c'est révoltant ! Bientôt ils vont se plaindre au général Than Shwe...😕
Attention à white lotus ! md Win aime l'argent et son chauffeur de Bagan est un cinglé de 1° classe ! hormis cette grosse fausse note, ils sont assez bien organisés ! Gulliver a une meilleure réputation !!
Bonjour.
La réputation est une chose , la réalité vécue en est une autre. Pour avoir utilisé les services de WL en octobre dernier, je peux faire état de mon expérience : prestation respectée à la lettre, voire même au-delà. Mme W...aime-t-elle l'argent ? n'ayant pas vécu dans son intimité (!), il m'est difficile de l'affirmer; je peux seulement dire que le rapport prix/prestation , 1284 $/pers. pour un groupe de 6 personnes avec hôtels de très bon niveau, 3 transferts par avion, tous les autres transports (calèches, pirogues et voiture minibus Hiace 9 pl), entrées sur les sites, pourboires aux bagagistes dans les aéroports et accompagnement par un guide francophone du 1er au 14ème jour, cela m'a semblé plus que raisonnable compte tenu de ce que proposaient des voyagistes français et, des 3 voyagistes locaux contactés (WL, AN... et Gul...), WL était la moi-disante à prestations identiques, de 30 $ par rapport à l'un et 150 $ par rapport à l'autre. Par ailleurs, notre programme a dû être modifié en raison des innondations, le coût supplémentaire pour le voyagiste n'a pas été répercuté...
Quant au "chauffeur cinglé" de Bagan, je n'en ai pas, heureusement, fait la connaissance : tous nos chauffeurs ont été des gens responsables, particulièrement celui qui a dû se taper Monywa-presque Pakkoku, puis presque Pakkoku-Monywa-Mandalay-Bagan quand on a dû rebrousser chemin pcq le pont de Pakkoku venait d'être emporté juste avant qu'on y arrive.
Au total donc, vous avez peut-être vécu ce que vous dites, moi j'ai connu une autre expérience totalement positive/l'attente et / contrat avec WL; même si, avec l'expérience, des améliorations semblent toujours possibles, nul n'est parfait !!! Je pense donc qu'il faut faire preuve d'un minimum de retenue dans ses affirmations.
Si vous aviez fait l'effort de lire ma phrase avant de vous emporter comme une furie, j'ai précisé que c'était assez bien organisé et lorsque je dis que md win aime l'argent, c'est qu'elle a passé 45 minutes à vérifier les billets d' USD et qu'elle m'a avoué les repasser au fer ! cela devient obsessionnel !!mon chauffeur mmandelay monya pakkoku est trés bien à part un accident évité de justesse ! celui de bagan , je le redis : un escrot de petite envergure , qui se permettait d'appeller chaque soir à 11 heure , complétement défonçé et en baragouinnant des propos inaudibles ! Voilà . Gulliver , lorsque l'on voit leurs bus, calêches et bateaux , on l'air beaucoupo professionnels !!
Eh ! Fazen,
qui s'emporte comme une furie ? J'ai tout simplement voulu dire, comme je l'ai fait à propos d'autres sujets sur ce forum, que l'expérience vécue par quelqu'un dont à priori je ne mets pas en doute la sincérité ne doit pas forcément être généralisée. C'est tout : j'ai eu un vécu différent du vôtre et j'ai estimé que je me devais de le dire. Si vous lisez les appréciations portées sur les voyagistes locaux cités, vous verrez qu'il y a rarement unanimité.
Par ailleurs, vous avez certainement lu qu'en Birmanie on est très tatillon sur l'état des billets de banque, alors que Mme W... les repasse ( moi, je n'en sais rien et cela m'est bien égal), cela suffit-il pour dire qu'elle aime l'argent ? Votre formulation m'a semblé plutôt péjorative, non ? Et puis de toute façon, il me semble qu'il n'y a aucune honte à aimer l'argent quand on le gagne en respectant scrupuleusement un contrat passé ce qui a été le cas pour nous.
Il n'y a pas lieu de s'emporter, et encore une fois je ne l'ai pas fait même si ma réponse vous a paru un peu ferme, j'ai simplement donné un point de vue différent du vôtre.
Jackris, j'aime bien votre ton mesuré et votre refus de la polémique 😉
Mme W... les repasse moi, (...) cela suffit-il pour dire qu'elle aime l'argent ?
J'avoue avoir repassé les miens avant de partir pour la Birmanie, pour qu'il soient tout beau tout propre😊 Je ne pense pas être obsédée par l'argent, mais voulait être sure qu'on me les accepterait sans problèmes, et je pense que les Birmans font de même pour que les banques les acceptent aussi, tout simplement, non ???
Mme W... les repasse moi, (...) cela suffit-il pour dire qu'elle aime l'argent ?
J'avoue avoir repassé les miens avant de partir pour la Birmanie, pour qu'il soient tout beau tout propre😊 Je ne pense pas être obsédée par l'argent, mais voulait être sure qu'on me les accepterait sans problèmes, et je pense que les Birmans font de même pour que les banques les acceptent aussi, tout simplement, non ???
Refus de la polémique ? cette personne se permet de porter des jugements de valeur sur une remarque réelle ! quand aux USD , même froissés je n'ai jamais vu un Birman les refuser ! peut-être que dans les 5 étoiles cela on ne les prend pas , honnêtement je n'ai pas été vérifier ! !
quand aux USD , même froissés je n'ai jamais vu un Birman les refuser !
Ah oui ?
Ah oui ?
Heu ! cher intervenant, je suis au regret de vous dire que vous vous trompez lourdement et que, beaucoup plus grave, si vous avancez de telles affirmations, vous ne rendez pas du tout service aux voyageurs qui se rendent dans ce pays.
Seuls les $ (et les €) en parfait état sont acceptés, sans trou, sans marque, sans pli, sans froissure, sans écriture, bref, quasi neufs ou du moins parfaitement propres.
Tout dernièrement, il m'a été impossible de changer des $ qui, à mon avis, pouvaient convenir et bien pas du tout. J'ai essuyé un refus très net et j'ai dû en sortir un autre en meilleur état.
Donc attention de ne pas induire les gens en erreur, car une fois sur place, puisque un système bancaire digne de ce nom n'existe pas, des voyageurs se verront refuser le change de leurs billets et devront revenir sur Bangkok. Cela vient d'arriver à mes cousins qui se trouvaient à Yangon il y a 15 jours avec des $ pas très " frais" qu'ils n'ont tout simplement pas pu changer!!!
Seuls les $ (et les €) en parfait état sont acceptés, sans trou, sans marque, sans pli, sans froissure, sans écriture, bref, quasi neufs ou du moins parfaitement propres.
Tout dernièrement, il m'a été impossible de changer des $ qui, à mon avis, pouvaient convenir et bien pas du tout. J'ai essuyé un refus très net et j'ai dû en sortir un autre en meilleur état.
Donc attention de ne pas induire les gens en erreur, car une fois sur place, puisque un système bancaire digne de ce nom n'existe pas, des voyageurs se verront refuser le change de leurs billets et devront revenir sur Bangkok. Cela vient d'arriver à mes cousins qui se trouvaient à Yangon il y a 15 jours avec des $ pas très " frais" qu'ils n'ont tout simplement pas pu changer!!!
Tout à fait d'accord lorsque vous parlez de change , mais lors des achats courants , aucun problème majeur à signaler !!
lors des achats courants , aucun problème majeur à signaler !!
Les achats courants se font en général en kyats. Les dollars servent surtout, comme vous le savez bien, à payer les hôtels, les taxes d'entrée sur certains sites, les treks. Essayez donc de payer l'entrée à Schwedagon ou sur les sites de Bagan , Inle, etc, avec des dollars froissés ou tâchés. Ils vous les refuseront.
Les achats courants se font en général en kyats. Les dollars servent surtout, comme vous le savez bien, à payer les hôtels, les taxes d'entrée sur certains sites, les treks. Essayez donc de payer l'entrée à Schwedagon ou sur les sites de Bagan , Inle, etc, avec des dollars froissés ou tâchés. Ils vous les refuseront.
quand aux USD , même froissés je n'ai jamais vu un Birman les refuser !
Ah oui ?
Mais QUI peut affirmer une telle bêtise concernant l'état des dollars en Birmanie....😠. C'est limite de la désinformation à ce niveau là !🙁
Celui (ou celle) qui affirme ce genre de chose devrait être contraint de partir en Birmanie pour 3 semaines avec un vieux contingent de dollars tous pourris, et marqués au stylo...juste pour voir son avis à son retour 😏 (pas sûr qu'il/elle) "tienne" deux jours....après avoir dormi(e) dans la rue...et mendié(e) pour manger ! 😎
Ah oui ?
Mais QUI peut affirmer une telle bêtise concernant l'état des dollars en Birmanie....😠. C'est limite de la désinformation à ce niveau là !🙁
Celui (ou celle) qui affirme ce genre de chose devrait être contraint de partir en Birmanie pour 3 semaines avec un vieux contingent de dollars tous pourris, et marqués au stylo...juste pour voir son avis à son retour 😏 (pas sûr qu'il/elle) "tienne" deux jours....après avoir dormi(e) dans la rue...et mendié(e) pour manger ! 😎
Bonjour Vivi.
Je relis un de vos posts où vous dites " chacun fait son choix..." et "on sait que c'est beaucoup d'argent ". Je suis totalement en OK avec vous d'autant plus que j'ai aussi les tempes grises !!!mais sachant que vous ne pourrez pas retirer d'argent en Birmanie (à moins que cela ne change d'ici 02/2013 ???) avec votre carte de crédit et que vous ne pourrez pas payer avec celle-ci sauf semble-t-il à vous voir imposer un supplément conséquent ( d'après ce que j'ai pu lire ici ou là), mieux vaut quand même vous préoccuper de savoir quelle somme vous sera nécessaire... sans compter qu'il peut se produire des aléas.
Bonne continuation dans la préparation de votre voyage.
merci pour votre réponse
nous savons évidemment qu'il faut oublier la carte de credit et répasser ses billets...😉 ce que nous ferons!!
nous avons décider de partir avec White Lotus quoiqu'en pense certains..
oui
il ne faut pas tomber dans l'angélisme du genre "les Birmans ont besoin de nous etc....."
il y a aussi des profiteurs et des arnaques, janvier 2010 je me rappelle du coin autour de Mandalay où il y a des pagodes en bois, c'était une vraie mafia organisée. et juste le temps de me rendre compte du mauvais plan, j'avais vite fait demi-tour.
Bago "Bouddhaland" aussi est pas mal dans le genre avec une petite bande organisée qui attend les touristes de pied ferme à la gare routière : Mister K, l'édenté, Moustache et the tall Man (ce dernier étant moins "collant"), impossible de les éviter🙂
à mon avis ça risque de s'empirer dans ces coins là.
De retour de birmanie,
même en repassant les billets ... s'ils ne sont pas neufs vous pouvez ... repartir.
même en repassant les billets ... s'ils ne sont pas neufs vous pouvez ... repartir.
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First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM). Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do???? We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc. Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else. Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening. We’ll be there at the end of October. Thanks!
First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM). Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do???? We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc. Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else. Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening. We’ll be there at the end of October. Thanks!
Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
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Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
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Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search. I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
Hi everyone, I’m back on the forum.
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot. If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
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Marsyork
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot. If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Thanks so much!
Marsyork
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
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Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
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Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.








