Voyage en Namibie: période et circuit
by ValGas
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous sommes en pleine préparation d'un voyage en Namibie pour un couple et 1 enfant de 12 ans, déjà habitués à voyager.
A force de lire et relire les différentes discussions, nous ne savons plus à quel saint nous vouer.
Notre interrogation première est : quelle est la meilleure période pour notre voyage de 3 semaines ? Nous hésitons entre ces différents choix avec les éléments suivants que nous pensons avoir compris:
- en octobre, à priori plus d'animaux, végétation et routes plus sèches
- fin avril, début mai : la saison des pluies se termine, belle végétation, peu de monde mais route parfois impraticables et 4x4 indispensable
- juillet : plus d'animaux visibles mais il peut faire très froid
Nous avons envie de camper, de voir des animaux et de ne pas avoir trop froid avec un budget d'environ 2.000 euros par personne (avion compris).
Vos avis nous serait donc très utile pour nous décider sur la période et le circuit idéal.
Merci d'avance
Bonsoir Valérie,
Il n'y a pas vraiment de mauvaise saison, je crois…
Pas vraiment plus d'animaux en octobre qu'en juillet, mais atmosphère poussiéreuse de fin de saison sèche possible. Il fait très chaud.
Fin avril/ début mai, normalement il ne pleut plus ou quasiment plus. Les routes ne sont impraticables qu'en cas d'orage et de crue soudaine. C'est peu probable. 4x4 pas plus obligatoire à cette saison qu'à une autre, ça dépend surtout de l'itinéraire choisi.
Juillet, oui il arrive qu'il fasse froid… Mais on a eu froid aussi fin avril un soir cette année. Ça dépend des jours. Et de toute façon, même si les soirées sont fraîches et les nuits parfois (pas toujours) froides, les journées sont très agréables.
En 3 semaines ? Un "classique" Windhoek / Mariental / Sesriem / Naukluft / Swakopmund (ou Walvis Bay) / Damaraland / Opuwo / Epupa / Etosha / Windhoek…
Ton budget est tangeant. De France métroplitaine, l'aérien va déjà en manger près de la moitié. Tu pars d'où ?
Merci Pierre pour ces infos.
Effectivement ton circuit proposé est quasiment celui auquel nous pensions ce qui nous conforte dans notre choix. Reste à nous décider sur la meilleure période pour nous;
Nous sommes de Montpellier et partirions très certainement de Paris. Le budget annoncé est à titre indicatif et nous allons nous aider des nombreux carnets de route pour préparer au mieux....
En tous cas, ça donne carrément envie ! Au plaisir de prochaines discussions
En tous cas, ça donne carrément envie ! Au plaisir de prochaines discussions
Bonjour,
La période de la toussaint est un bon compromis : moins de monde qu'en juillet, beaucoup d'animaux, et plutôt agréable pour le camping. Attention aux étapes trop longues en voiture avec un enfant. Les distances sont trompeuses, on roule moins vite qu'en France.
Emmanuel
La période de la toussaint est un bon compromis : moins de monde qu'en juillet, beaucoup d'animaux, et plutôt agréable pour le camping. Attention aux étapes trop longues en voiture avec un enfant. Les distances sont trompeuses, on roule moins vite qu'en France.
Emmanuel
Bonjour
Les propositions sont exactes.
Nous avons fait plusieurs fois les trois voyages différents et nous avons préféré sans hésiter OCTOBRE / NOVEMBRE
Il fait bon , contrairement à JUILLET et AOUT ou il fait parfois froid même trés froid.En MAI la pluie est parfois encore trés présente et les animaux sont trés éparpillés;en 2011 nous avons eu un voyage gaché à cause de cela, Pas d animaux en NAMIBIE et au BOTSWANA cela semble incroyable et pourtant ce fut le cas!!!!!!
Cette année nous partons en octobre et novembre et je pense que cela va être génial comme d'habitude!!!!
Sin vous avez besoin d autres renseignements n'hésitez pas
A trés bientôt
ELISABETH ET BERNARd
Je peux te dire aussi que pour le voyage nous avons pris ETHIAD avec 2 escales mais facile par ABOU D et JOBOURG cela fait tout de même moins de 1000 euros par trajet et on arrive à 6h30 à WINDHOEK.Pour la voiture ODYSSE car hire ils sont sans probléme, les voitures aussi.
A plus tard
bernard
Bonjour Elisabeth et Bernard
Merci pour votre message qui pourrait bien être décisif pour notre choix!
Une fois que la période de notre voyage sera définitivement déterminée, nous aurons sans doute besoin d'infos supplémentaires pour la préparation du voyage et nous n'hésiterons pas à vous contacter
Bonne journée
Valérie
Bonjour à vous,
Ça y est, notre projet se concrétise : les billets achetés pour un départ le 20 octobre et un retour 3 semaines après, le carnet de route posé, les parcs réservés, une option sur la location d'un 2X4 chez Camping Car Hire....et là, le hic. Nous avons beau lire et relire les différentes conversations sur le choix du full excess ou de la reduced excess....nous n'y comprenons rien.
Pourriez vous nous aider à y voir plus clair ? Merci d'avance Valérie
Ça y est, notre projet se concrétise : les billets achetés pour un départ le 20 octobre et un retour 3 semaines après, le carnet de route posé, les parcs réservés, une option sur la location d'un 2X4 chez Camping Car Hire....et là, le hic. Nous avons beau lire et relire les différentes conversations sur le choix du full excess ou de la reduced excess....nous n'y comprenons rien.
Pourriez vous nous aider à y voir plus clair ? Merci d'avance Valérie
Hello,
Compte tenu de l' utilisation du véhicule, les petits pépins de carosserie arrivent très vite, ne serait ce que les rayures sur la carosserie. Et puis il y a les maladroits qui frottent ton véhicule parce qu 'ils ne savent pas dégager à temps pour croiser dans le sable et te boouzillent un côté et les malotrus qui le font en ton absence et ne laissent pas de carte de visite.
Depuis une facture astronomique pour une peinture rayée par des genêts en Irlande, il y a environ 18 ans, j' ai pris l' habitude de prendre le full excess (suppression totale de franchise), c 'est cher mais sur des 4x4 pour des circuits "off road" je pense que cela vaut la peine..
Reduced excess ?? Jamais pris, mais je suis un peu "tout ou rien", généralement, on réduit la franchise de .... à ... (par ex. de € 1.000 à € 500). Personnelement, je n' en vois guère l' intérêt: soit je suis disposé à mettre de ma poche pour un carton soit non (surtoout s' il y a une grosse probabilité - c' est différent en Europe)..
Attention: en principe les pneus et pare-brise ne sont pas assurés. Je ne sais plus (pas loué en AFS depuis 4 ans, j' ai mon propre véhicule sur place) si le pare-brise est assurable. Si oui et si c' était moi , j' assurerais, il y a un tas de cailloux qui volent..Les pneus ne sont jamais assurables.
Mais bien sûr chacun voit midi à sa porte..
A+
Compte tenu de l' utilisation du véhicule, les petits pépins de carosserie arrivent très vite, ne serait ce que les rayures sur la carosserie. Et puis il y a les maladroits qui frottent ton véhicule parce qu 'ils ne savent pas dégager à temps pour croiser dans le sable et te boouzillent un côté et les malotrus qui le font en ton absence et ne laissent pas de carte de visite.
Depuis une facture astronomique pour une peinture rayée par des genêts en Irlande, il y a environ 18 ans, j' ai pris l' habitude de prendre le full excess (suppression totale de franchise), c 'est cher mais sur des 4x4 pour des circuits "off road" je pense que cela vaut la peine..
Reduced excess ?? Jamais pris, mais je suis un peu "tout ou rien", généralement, on réduit la franchise de .... à ... (par ex. de € 1.000 à € 500). Personnelement, je n' en vois guère l' intérêt: soit je suis disposé à mettre de ma poche pour un carton soit non (surtoout s' il y a une grosse probabilité - c' est différent en Europe)..
Attention: en principe les pneus et pare-brise ne sont pas assurés. Je ne sais plus (pas loué en AFS depuis 4 ans, j' ai mon propre véhicule sur place) si le pare-brise est assurable. Si oui et si c' était moi , j' assurerais, il y a un tas de cailloux qui volent..Les pneus ne sont jamais assurables.
Mais bien sûr chacun voit midi à sa porte..
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Bonjour Eric et merci pour tes infos
Si je comprends bien, si je prends la fulll excess (proposée à N$18.000) et que j'ai un pépin, ça ne me coûtera pas plus cher que cette somme ? Et s'il ne m'arrive rien, c'est perdu.
Si je prends une reduce excess, j'ai 3 options mais je n'y comprends rien. AEDC-1 @N$ 65.00/day to reduce excess to N$ 9000.00 as from 10 days AEDC-2 @N$ 85.00/day to reduce excess to N$ 4500.00 as from 10 days AEDC-3 @N$ 180.00/day to reduce excess to N$ 0.00 as from 15 days
Par contre, ils proposent bien en plus une couverture pneu et pare-prise à N$100 par jour
Peux tu m'aider pour l'AEDC ? Merci bien Valérie
Si je prends une reduce excess, j'ai 3 options mais je n'y comprends rien. AEDC-1 @N$ 65.00/day to reduce excess to N$ 9000.00 as from 10 days AEDC-2 @N$ 85.00/day to reduce excess to N$ 4500.00 as from 10 days AEDC-3 @N$ 180.00/day to reduce excess to N$ 0.00 as from 15 days
Par contre, ils proposent bien en plus une couverture pneu et pare-prise à N$100 par jour
Peux tu m'aider pour l'AEDC ? Merci bien Valérie
Hello,
Si je comprends, à te faire confirmer par ton loueur, en payant N$ 180 (environ € 16) de plus par jour, tu auras une vraie tous risques sans franchise, celle-ci semblant être normalement de N$ 18.000 soit environ € 1.600.
Par exemple, je ne connais pas ta durée réelle de location, la suppression de franchise pur trois semaines te coûterait € 16 x 21 = € 336.
A toi de mesurer ta prise de risque...
A+
Si je comprends, à te faire confirmer par ton loueur, en payant N$ 180 (environ € 16) de plus par jour, tu auras une vraie tous risques sans franchise, celle-ci semblant être normalement de N$ 18.000 soit environ € 1.600.
Par exemple, je ne connais pas ta durée réelle de location, la suppression de franchise pur trois semaines te coûterait € 16 x 21 = € 336.
A toi de mesurer ta prise de risque...
A+
Le bonheur commence où le bitume s 'arrête et ....quand on est plus de quatre on est une bande de c... (Georges Brassens)
Excess = Franchise
Full Excess : est la somme maximum qui peut vous être prélevée en cas de problème à la restitution du véhicule. C’est la location de voiture qui revient la moins chère. Si pas d’accident, le full excess ne sera pas débité, mais en cas de dégât, on paie jusqu'à un montant maxi indiqué dans le contrat (peut aller jusqu’à 3000 € !) Full Excess est donc l'assurance la moins chère, mais on paie un max en cas de pépin.
Reduced Excess : ledit montant à payer en cas de dégât est réduit (voir le montant inscrit sur le contrat). Donc, la location de voiture coûte plus chère mais en cas de dégât, on paie moins !
Zero Excess : vous garantit au maximum en cas de dégât (donc rien à payer en cas de dégât, mais c'est donc forcément la location de voiture la plus chère (si on veut être couvert à 100 % il faut prendre Zero Excess).
A lire aussi ceci qui parle du sujet http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4628038#4628038
Full Excess : est la somme maximum qui peut vous être prélevée en cas de problème à la restitution du véhicule. C’est la location de voiture qui revient la moins chère. Si pas d’accident, le full excess ne sera pas débité, mais en cas de dégât, on paie jusqu'à un montant maxi indiqué dans le contrat (peut aller jusqu’à 3000 € !) Full Excess est donc l'assurance la moins chère, mais on paie un max en cas de pépin.
Reduced Excess : ledit montant à payer en cas de dégât est réduit (voir le montant inscrit sur le contrat). Donc, la location de voiture coûte plus chère mais en cas de dégât, on paie moins !
Zero Excess : vous garantit au maximum en cas de dégât (donc rien à payer en cas de dégât, mais c'est donc forcément la location de voiture la plus chère (si on veut être couvert à 100 % il faut prendre Zero Excess).
A lire aussi ceci qui parle du sujet http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4628038#4628038
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
On sent la patte de la scientifique ! 🙂 😉
C'est bref, clair et impec !
Bravo !
Ceci dit sans malice aucune .
PS: j'ai déjà retrouvé ma "machine magique" ! 😎
Michelle
PS: j'ai déjà retrouvé ma "machine magique" ! 😎
Ah? Dommage pour tes proies nocturnes qui espéraient quelque répit.😉😇
Ah? Dommage pour tes proies nocturnes qui espéraient quelque répit.😉😇
Coucou Michelle,
J'ai été à bonne école et j'ai eu de bons maîtres depuis 1 an de lecture assidue 😉
J'ai été à bonne école et j'ai eu de bons maîtres depuis 1 an de lecture assidue 😉
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
bonjour,
tout d'abord je peux vous dire que Camping car Hire est un loueur très sérieux. Vous pouvez envoyer un mail à Bettina et lui dire que vous écrivez de ma part, je vous donnerais mon nom en message privé. Concernant l'assurance du véhicule, je ne saurais que trop vous recommander de la prendre sauf et c'est l'unique cas, si vous avez une carte visa infinite et que vous payez avec. C'est en effet la seule carte qui couvre la location des 4X4 tous domages. Contrairement à ce que l'on entend la carte premier ne le couvre pas. Les accidents de la route sont la première cause de problème en Namibie et quand vous saurez que pour les résidents (dont je fais partie) l'assurance n'est pas obligatoire !!! il vaut mieux être prudent.
pour faire simple Full excess c'est la franchise totale Reduced la réduction de franchise Malheureusement ce n'est pas aussi simple quand il vous arrive quelque chose. Il y a aussi les pannes et c'est la qu'on voit la différence entre un bon et un mauvais loueur. Camping Car Hire ira vous chercher ou vous donner une autre voiture au bout du pays A CONDITION d'avoir respecter les endroits autorisés et de ne pas avoir confondu un voyage en Namibie et le Paris Dakar, ce qui est souvent le cas, ils ont un album de photo d'accidents édifiant
Bonne réflexion
Emmanuel
tout d'abord je peux vous dire que Camping car Hire est un loueur très sérieux. Vous pouvez envoyer un mail à Bettina et lui dire que vous écrivez de ma part, je vous donnerais mon nom en message privé. Concernant l'assurance du véhicule, je ne saurais que trop vous recommander de la prendre sauf et c'est l'unique cas, si vous avez une carte visa infinite et que vous payez avec. C'est en effet la seule carte qui couvre la location des 4X4 tous domages. Contrairement à ce que l'on entend la carte premier ne le couvre pas. Les accidents de la route sont la première cause de problème en Namibie et quand vous saurez que pour les résidents (dont je fais partie) l'assurance n'est pas obligatoire !!! il vaut mieux être prudent.
pour faire simple Full excess c'est la franchise totale Reduced la réduction de franchise Malheureusement ce n'est pas aussi simple quand il vous arrive quelque chose. Il y a aussi les pannes et c'est la qu'on voit la différence entre un bon et un mauvais loueur. Camping Car Hire ira vous chercher ou vous donner une autre voiture au bout du pays A CONDITION d'avoir respecter les endroits autorisés et de ne pas avoir confondu un voyage en Namibie et le Paris Dakar, ce qui est souvent le cas, ils ont un album de photo d'accidents édifiant
Bonne réflexion
Emmanuel
bonsoir
Je tiens à vous signaler que Odyssey car hire est aussi plus que parfait .Avec des véhicules impeccables et la gentillesse en plus .L assurance tout excess est parfaite pour avoir la paix .(Chez eux elle couvre aussi vitres et pneus sans aucun probléme avec facture) A bientôt Elisabeth
Je tiens à vous signaler que Odyssey car hire est aussi plus que parfait .Avec des véhicules impeccables et la gentillesse en plus .L assurance tout excess est parfaite pour avoir la paix .(Chez eux elle couvre aussi vitres et pneus sans aucun probléme avec facture) A bientôt Elisabeth
bernard
Bonsoir,
Je confirme les dires de Nammanu, au sujet de l'assurance qui n'est pas obligatoire pour les résidents, de même qu' en Afrique du Sud. Cette info peut intéresser d'autres touristes également . Avant , l'assurance était comprise dans le prix de l'essence, mais ce système n'existe plus. Plus de la moitié des usagers roulent sans assurance, bien qu'ils sont invités de manière de plus en pus pressante à le faire.
Un touriste avertit en vaut deux .
Bonne soirée.
G.
Je confirme les dires de Nammanu, au sujet de l'assurance qui n'est pas obligatoire pour les résidents, de même qu' en Afrique du Sud. Cette info peut intéresser d'autres touristes également . Avant , l'assurance était comprise dans le prix de l'essence, mais ce système n'existe plus. Plus de la moitié des usagers roulent sans assurance, bien qu'ils sont invités de manière de plus en pus pressante à le faire.
Un touriste avertit en vaut deux .
Bonne soirée.
G.
Bonsoir Pierre
Nous sommes en train de potasser grave sur notre carnet de route avec encore quelques interrogations sur certaines destinations. Comme le circuit que tu nous a suggéré correspond à celui que nous envisagions, je me permets de te solliciter pour avoir ton avis sur notre projet : cela te semble-t-il pertinent et réalisable ? Nous ne savons pas si cela vaut le coup de s'arrêter à Maltahohe ou quel autre stop entre Mariental et Sesriem ? Nous décollons e 20 octobre, nous avons loué une 2X4, les camps de Sesriem et Etosha sont réservés...nous sommes en train de réserver Windhoek et Walvis Bay. Est-il indispensable de réserver les nuits pour tous les autres stop Merci pour tes conseils et pour ceux de tous Valérie
- Jour 1 & 2 : WINDHOEK - Jour 3 : nuit au Camping de Bagatelle (Mariental) - Jour 4 : nuit à Maltahohe (?) - Jour 5 & 6 : nuits à SESRIEM - Jour 7 & 8 : nuits à Walvis Bay - Jour 9 : nuit à Spitzkoppe - Jour 10 : nuit à Twifelfontein - Jour 11 : nuit àSESFONTEIN - Jour 12 & 13 : nuit à Epupa - Jour 14 : nuit à Opuwo - Jour 15, 16 , 17 : nuit à Etosha - Jour 18 : nuit à Omaruru - Jour 19 : nuit à Windhoek
Nous sommes en train de potasser grave sur notre carnet de route avec encore quelques interrogations sur certaines destinations. Comme le circuit que tu nous a suggéré correspond à celui que nous envisagions, je me permets de te solliciter pour avoir ton avis sur notre projet : cela te semble-t-il pertinent et réalisable ? Nous ne savons pas si cela vaut le coup de s'arrêter à Maltahohe ou quel autre stop entre Mariental et Sesriem ? Nous décollons e 20 octobre, nous avons loué une 2X4, les camps de Sesriem et Etosha sont réservés...nous sommes en train de réserver Windhoek et Walvis Bay. Est-il indispensable de réserver les nuits pour tous les autres stop Merci pour tes conseils et pour ceux de tous Valérie
- Jour 1 & 2 : WINDHOEK - Jour 3 : nuit au Camping de Bagatelle (Mariental) - Jour 4 : nuit à Maltahohe (?) - Jour 5 & 6 : nuits à SESRIEM - Jour 7 & 8 : nuits à Walvis Bay - Jour 9 : nuit à Spitzkoppe - Jour 10 : nuit à Twifelfontein - Jour 11 : nuit àSESFONTEIN - Jour 12 & 13 : nuit à Epupa - Jour 14 : nuit à Opuwo - Jour 15, 16 , 17 : nuit à Etosha - Jour 18 : nuit à Omaruru - Jour 19 : nuit à Windhoek
Bonjour Valérie,
Je trouve ton circuit judicieusement rempli pour une période relativement courte. Par contre je me demande si tu veux passer 2 jours/2 nuits à Windhoek pour une raison particulière. Car, sauf si ton avion te fait arriver très tard le soir, un jour/une nuit suffisent pour être reposé du vol, et pour les qlq courses à faire. A ta place je préférerais allonger le trajet entre Bagatelle et Sesriem en faisant le détour par Hermelinhausen, loger au camping ou au ranch même Koiimasis ou à la ferme Kanaan sur la D 707 ou au Namtib desert lodge par exemple. Vous aurez une tente au sol ? Tous ceux qui ont fait cette route l'ont adorée. Si tu es pressée, un stop entre Mariental et Sesriem n'est pas nécessaire mais cette région (j'ai parcouru la D 707) est si belle qu'elle mérite une halte, oui. D'autant plus qu'ayant réservé Sesriem, tu disposes de cette journée ! 😉
Je trouve ton circuit judicieusement rempli pour une période relativement courte. Par contre je me demande si tu veux passer 2 jours/2 nuits à Windhoek pour une raison particulière. Car, sauf si ton avion te fait arriver très tard le soir, un jour/une nuit suffisent pour être reposé du vol, et pour les qlq courses à faire. A ta place je préférerais allonger le trajet entre Bagatelle et Sesriem en faisant le détour par Hermelinhausen, loger au camping ou au ranch même Koiimasis ou à la ferme Kanaan sur la D 707 ou au Namtib desert lodge par exemple. Vous aurez une tente au sol ? Tous ceux qui ont fait cette route l'ont adorée. Si tu es pressée, un stop entre Mariental et Sesriem n'est pas nécessaire mais cette région (j'ai parcouru la D 707) est si belle qu'elle mérite une halte, oui. D'autant plus qu'ayant réservé Sesriem, tu disposes de cette journée ! 😉
Michelle
Bonjour
Michelle a raison ce trajet est trés sympa !
Je suis trés étonnée que dans les trajets vus sur le forum rares sont ceux qui vont à Mahango!
Ce parc est superbe et vaut vraiment le détour !! Bien sur il faut y aller!!!
Michelle, nous repartons pour un mois et demi Namibie Botswana , j espére que le volcan va rester tranquille ! Pour les inondations je pense qu'en Octobre il n'y a pas de problémes!!!!!
Elisabeth
Michelle, nous repartons pour un mois et demi Namibie Botswana , j espére que le volcan va rester tranquille ! Pour les inondations je pense qu'en Octobre il n'y a pas de problémes!!!!!
Elisabeth
bernard
Je suis trés étonnée que dans les trajets vus sur le forum rares sont ceux qui vont à Mahango!
Bonjour Elisabeth. Je ne vais pas dire le contraire, vu que c'est ce qu'on a fait dès notre premier voyage… Le parc de Mahango est sympa, mais tout petit et se découvre en une demi-journée. C'est aussi l'occasion de découvrir la région de l'Okavango, très différente du reste de la Namibie. Dans le Caprivi, Nkasa Lupala (ex-Mamili) est très sympa aussi, comparable à ce qu'on trouve côté Botswana sur l'autre rive sans les soucis de résas. La raison pour laquelle la plupart ne le font pas, c'est le nombre de kms que représente le détour sans doute… Et peut-être aussi, parce que cette partie du pays ne répond pas à la première image qu'on se fait de la Namibie.
Bonjour Elisabeth. Je ne vais pas dire le contraire, vu que c'est ce qu'on a fait dès notre premier voyage… Le parc de Mahango est sympa, mais tout petit et se découvre en une demi-journée. C'est aussi l'occasion de découvrir la région de l'Okavango, très différente du reste de la Namibie. Dans le Caprivi, Nkasa Lupala (ex-Mamili) est très sympa aussi, comparable à ce qu'on trouve côté Botswana sur l'autre rive sans les soucis de résas. La raison pour laquelle la plupart ne le font pas, c'est le nombre de kms que représente le détour sans doute… Et peut-être aussi, parce que cette partie du pays ne répond pas à la première image qu'on se fait de la Namibie.
Bonjour Elisabeth !
Le parc Mahango, il y a tout de même plusieurs VF qui l'ont visité , je dirais - à vue d'oeil-1/3 (?) des voyageurs dont Claire et Jéremie à vélo. Avais-tu suivi leur périple ?
Ah , ce volcan ! 😠 Ton nom est, pour moi, associé à tout jamais à ce fameux empêcheur de tourner en rond ! 😉 J'avais trouvé bien embarrassant de devoir partir avec 3 J de retard ! 🏴☠️ Heureusement, tu t'es bien rattrapée par la suite ! 😎 Comment avais-tu fait pour "compresser" ces jours où tes résas d'étapes étaient faites sachant qu'on ne peut matériellement vraiment couper au court ? ? Je me suis souvent posé la question !
Le parc Mahango, il y a tout de même plusieurs VF qui l'ont visité , je dirais - à vue d'oeil-1/3 (?) des voyageurs dont Claire et Jéremie à vélo. Avais-tu suivi leur périple ?
Ah , ce volcan ! 😠 Ton nom est, pour moi, associé à tout jamais à ce fameux empêcheur de tourner en rond ! 😉 J'avais trouvé bien embarrassant de devoir partir avec 3 J de retard ! 🏴☠️ Heureusement, tu t'es bien rattrapée par la suite ! 😎 Comment avais-tu fait pour "compresser" ces jours où tes résas d'étapes étaient faites sachant qu'on ne peut matériellement vraiment couper au court ? ? Je me suis souvent posé la question !
Michelle
coucou michelle
Je reponds à ta question nous avons squisé Sesriem et sommes partis directement pour Brandberg en laissant ma fille et une amie à Paris .Le voyage pour elles aurait été trop court, nous, nous y restions un mois!!!!! Elles nous ont laissés partir avec la promesse d'y retourner en Octobre et c'est ce que nous avons fait; Comme nous sommes vraiment accros nous repartons cette année encore en Octobre pour 1mois et demi avec le Botswana mais uniquement Chobe puis Maun par exterieur, cela devient bien trop compliqué les reservations pour les autres parcs . Dans la premiére partie du voyage aprés mahango nous passons au Botswana et descendons par le coté ouest de l'okavango, nous ne l avons jamais fait!!!nous nous arreterons à ETcha 6 puis à thakadu prés de ghanzi .Cela va nous éviter de faire la meme route de Mahango vers Windhoek avant de reprendre un autre couple d'amis Si quelqu'un a des tuyaux sur ce trajet je suis preneur Ps Michelle pour notre aventure nous avons ete entierement remboursés!!!!! A bientot Elisabeth
Je reponds à ta question nous avons squisé Sesriem et sommes partis directement pour Brandberg en laissant ma fille et une amie à Paris .Le voyage pour elles aurait été trop court, nous, nous y restions un mois!!!!! Elles nous ont laissés partir avec la promesse d'y retourner en Octobre et c'est ce que nous avons fait; Comme nous sommes vraiment accros nous repartons cette année encore en Octobre pour 1mois et demi avec le Botswana mais uniquement Chobe puis Maun par exterieur, cela devient bien trop compliqué les reservations pour les autres parcs . Dans la premiére partie du voyage aprés mahango nous passons au Botswana et descendons par le coté ouest de l'okavango, nous ne l avons jamais fait!!!nous nous arreterons à ETcha 6 puis à thakadu prés de ghanzi .Cela va nous éviter de faire la meme route de Mahango vers Windhoek avant de reprendre un autre couple d'amis Si quelqu'un a des tuyaux sur ce trajet je suis preneur Ps Michelle pour notre aventure nous avons ete entierement remboursés!!!!! A bientot Elisabeth
bernard
Elisabeth je ne vois pas bien le circuit que tu vas faire 🤪:
mais uniquement Chobe puis Maun par exterieur,
qu'entend-tu par "par l'extérieur" ? Tu vas prendre la route Kasane-Nata- Gweta-Maun, c'est ça ? Ensuite ??
Dans la premiére partie du voyage aprés mahango nous passons au Botswana et descendons par le coté ouest de l'okavango, ...nous nous arreterons à ETcha 6 puis à thakadu prés de ghanzi .
Vous venez de Rundu -Divundu-Bagani ?
Cela va nous éviter de faire la meme route de Mahango vers Windhoek avant de reprendre un autre couple d'amis
pour ensuite aller vers ??
Ce sera plus facile pour t'aider !😉 Néanmoins tu peux déjà lire le carnet de bernicotti (à p du 15/8) et le récit de la famille Moreau
mais uniquement Chobe puis Maun par exterieur,
qu'entend-tu par "par l'extérieur" ? Tu vas prendre la route Kasane-Nata- Gweta-Maun, c'est ça ? Ensuite ??
Dans la premiére partie du voyage aprés mahango nous passons au Botswana et descendons par le coté ouest de l'okavango, ...nous nous arreterons à ETcha 6 puis à thakadu prés de ghanzi .
Vous venez de Rundu -Divundu-Bagani ?
Cela va nous éviter de faire la meme route de Mahango vers Windhoek avant de reprendre un autre couple d'amis
pour ensuite aller vers ??
Ce sera plus facile pour t'aider !😉 Néanmoins tu peux déjà lire le carnet de bernicotti (à p du 15/8) et le récit de la famille Moreau
Michelle
Moi aussi, j'ai un peu de mal à rabouter les morceaux… 😛
La Panhandle, de Mahango à Ghanzi, 3 endroits intéressants : Drotsky's à Shakawe, Tsodilo Hills, Guma Lagoon. Pour le reste, la route n'a pas d'intérêt, on ne voit pas le fleuve. Mais elle a le mérite d'exister et de permettre d'avaler les kms ! Attention aux barrières vétérinaires, il y en a au moins trois tout le long, et ils confisquent la viande dans les deux sens. Y compris celle qu'on venait d'acheter à Maun alors qu'on montait vers le Nord. 🤪
Je ne sais pas si tu passes par le Caprivi, mais TOUS les parcs du Caprivi valent d'y consacrer un peu de temps. Sans les prises de tête des résas au Botswana.
La Panhandle, de Mahango à Ghanzi, 3 endroits intéressants : Drotsky's à Shakawe, Tsodilo Hills, Guma Lagoon. Pour le reste, la route n'a pas d'intérêt, on ne voit pas le fleuve. Mais elle a le mérite d'exister et de permettre d'avaler les kms ! Attention aux barrières vétérinaires, il y en a au moins trois tout le long, et ils confisquent la viande dans les deux sens. Y compris celle qu'on venait d'acheter à Maun alors qu'on montait vers le Nord. 🤪
Je ne sais pas si tu passes par le Caprivi, mais TOUS les parcs du Caprivi valent d'y consacrer un peu de temps. Sans les prises de tête des résas au Botswana.
Je ne t'ai pas donné toutes les explications Voilà 1 mois et demi dont 15 jours avec 2 amis puis 3 semaines avec d'autres.
Premier voyage :swakop, brandberg, etosha, mahango, etcha, ghanzi , windhoek
Deuxieme voyage:swakop, brandberg, etosha, mahango, kasane, nata, maun, ghanzi, windhoek
Voilà je pense qu'ainsi cela doit étre plus clair A bientot
Voilà je pense qu'ainsi cela doit étre plus clair A bientot
bernard
Bonsoir Michelle,
et Elisabeth (Glafougne) et Pierre (77N)
et désolée pour la réponse tardive
Merci beaucoup pour vos commentaires, vos réponses et votre proposition de faire un détour par Helmeringhausen et la D707. Cela nous séduit énormément et nous intégrons cette étape à la place de notre nuit évoquée à Maltahohe
Nous aurons effectivement une tente au sol
Nous avons opté pour 2 nuits à Windhoek parce que nous voulions visiter un peu la ville...on trouvait un peu dommage de partir sur les chapeaux de roues après de si nombreuses heures d'avion, nous arrivons à Windhoek à 11h30...nous consacrerons la première après midi aux préparatifs (voiture, courses....etc) et à plus de détente le lendemain.
On est au comble de l'excitation avec tous ces préparatifs Merci pour votre aide très précieuse Valérie
Merci beaucoup pour vos commentaires, vos réponses et votre proposition de faire un détour par Helmeringhausen et la D707. Cela nous séduit énormément et nous intégrons cette étape à la place de notre nuit évoquée à Maltahohe
Nous aurons effectivement une tente au sol
Nous avons opté pour 2 nuits à Windhoek parce que nous voulions visiter un peu la ville...on trouvait un peu dommage de partir sur les chapeaux de roues après de si nombreuses heures d'avion, nous arrivons à Windhoek à 11h30...nous consacrerons la première après midi aux préparatifs (voiture, courses....etc) et à plus de détente le lendemain.
On est au comble de l'excitation avec tous ces préparatifs Merci pour votre aide très précieuse Valérie
Bonsoir Emmanuel,
Je me rends compte - ô malheur ! - que je n'ai même pas pris la peine de répondre à votre message...pas encore super l'habitude des Forums et des croisements perpétuels de messages...je m'en excuse !
J'ai pourtant suivi vos conseils et ai réservé chez Camping Car Hire (avec assurance)...nous avons été en contact avec Bettina, très efficace et réactive.
C'est avec plaisir que j'accepte vos coordonnées que je ne manquerais pas de lui signaler. Merci beaucoup Au plaisir de vous relire Valérie
Je me rends compte - ô malheur ! - que je n'ai même pas pris la peine de répondre à votre message...pas encore super l'habitude des Forums et des croisements perpétuels de messages...je m'en excuse !
J'ai pourtant suivi vos conseils et ai réservé chez Camping Car Hire (avec assurance)...nous avons été en contact avec Bettina, très efficace et réactive.
C'est avec plaisir que j'accepte vos coordonnées que je ne manquerais pas de lui signaler. Merci beaucoup Au plaisir de vous relire Valérie
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Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
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- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Hello
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?







