GR5 du Léman à Modane à partir du 25 juin 2012
by Paulerando
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Nous projetons une traversée des Alpes (la moitié) à partir du 25 juin 2012.
Nous sommes un peu inquiets vu les hauteurs de neige tombée cet hiver ....?
Pensez-vous que les sentiers seront pratiquables et pas trop de névés ?
Nous avons un bon entraînement mais en randonnée mais sur sentiers, sans crampons ni piolet.
Parmis vous y en a-t-il qui ont des infos ou qui habitent dans ces régions ?
Sinon, une idée d'où nous pouvons nous renseigner (j'ai pensé aux gardiens de refuges ... mais encore ?) ?
Merci pour votre aide §
Avec ma sympathie.
Pascale
Bonjour,
Je n'y habite pas, mais j'y étais cet hiver... Je pense que la neige de cet hiver aura disparue au 25 Juin, restera probablement des névés mais sur les sommets... par contre si tu utilises la carte IGN de la région attention, il y a des chemins non répertoriés et des structure de telepherique qui ont disparues, je me suis fait avoir cet hiver🤪 Tu pourras probablement avoir plus de renseignements auprès des guides qui travaillent avec l'ESF Valfrejus et l'Office du tourisme... Sinon il y a sur le net un ou des forums concernant les dameuses, certains intervenants sont de Modane et travaillaient sur la station de Valfrejus cet hiver en tout cas, ils te renseigneront Sinon appelles la Mairie, si eux ne peuvent te renseigner ils te trouveront un contact.
Il y a aussi kit26 (annuaire des membres) qui y a vécue 3 ans...
Je n'y habite pas, mais j'y étais cet hiver... Je pense que la neige de cet hiver aura disparue au 25 Juin, restera probablement des névés mais sur les sommets... par contre si tu utilises la carte IGN de la région attention, il y a des chemins non répertoriés et des structure de telepherique qui ont disparues, je me suis fait avoir cet hiver🤪 Tu pourras probablement avoir plus de renseignements auprès des guides qui travaillent avec l'ESF Valfrejus et l'Office du tourisme... Sinon il y a sur le net un ou des forums concernant les dameuses, certains intervenants sont de Modane et travaillaient sur la station de Valfrejus cet hiver en tout cas, ils te renseigneront Sinon appelles la Mairie, si eux ne peuvent te renseigner ils te trouveront un contact.
Il y a aussi kit26 (annuaire des membres) qui y a vécue 3 ans...
Même en juillet il reste des névé sur les passages hauts du GR5. Mais ça passe.
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Même en juillet il reste des névé sur les passages hauts du GR5. Mais ça passe.
Merci pour votre réponse. Oui, je me doute que l'on peut rencontrer qqs névés sur le GR5 en juillet, comme dans le TMB j'imagine. Mais ma question était sur les conditions cette année et si pas trop difficile du coup ?
Merci pour votre réponse. Oui, je me doute que l'on peut rencontrer qqs névés sur le GR5 en juillet, comme dans le TMB j'imagine. Mais ma question était sur les conditions cette année et si pas trop difficile du coup ?
Merci pour ces "pistes", je vais les suivre en espèrant trouver l'info.
Bonjour,
Il faut tenir compte de l'enneigement important cette année dans les alpes du nord : la plupart des cols se situent au delà de 2500m sur le GR5 dans la partie Mont Blanc, Beaufortain, Vanoise... en général il y a encore de la neige en juillet!
Alors fin juin cette année..... 😐
Il faut espérer que juin sera chaud et orageux pour que çà fonde un peu!
Quant aux renseignements auprès des guides de Valfréjus, (comme il est indiqué précédemment) je n'en vois vraiment pas l'utilité : Valfréjus est sur l'autre versant, après Modane..... et je ne pense qu'ils soient les plus à mêmes de renseigner sur la partie Léman -> Modane.
Jean-Claude 😎
Il faut espérer que juin sera chaud et orageux pour que çà fonde un peu!
Quant aux renseignements auprès des guides de Valfréjus, (comme il est indiqué précédemment) je n'en vois vraiment pas l'utilité : Valfréjus est sur l'autre versant, après Modane..... et je ne pense qu'ils soient les plus à mêmes de renseigner sur la partie Léman -> Modane.
Jean-Claude 😎
Et oui, c'est bien ce que nous craignons ......
J'essayerais d'appeler les gardiens de refuges sur le trajet à partir du 15 juin.
Merci pour votre message.
Sauf que les guides connaissent tjrs... d'autres guides😉 ... ou des contacts susceptibles de te venir en aide et te donner l'info...🙂
Les gens qui bosses à l'ESF ou autre à Valfrejus sont souvent de Modane ... et ne se limitent pas non plus, à leur petits pré carré... Ne jamais négliger une piste... évite souvent de passer à côté de l' info.
Les gens qui bosses à l'ESF ou autre à Valfrejus sont souvent de Modane ... et ne se limitent pas non plus, à leur petits pré carré... Ne jamais négliger une piste... évite souvent de passer à côté de l' info.
Il existe des sites pour voir les couvertures neigeuses résiduelles selon les altitudes .... classé par massif avec les liens utiles :
http://www.meteo-chamonix.org/drupal/node/83
et comme exemple (massif du mont blanc) :
http://www.meteo.fr/meteonet/temps/activite/mont/horspiste/Mont-Blanc.htm
A rapprocher ensuite du topo ou de la cartographie utilisée .... A noter, en principe, il s'agit d'une couverture continue, il reste aussi des plaques, névés ou secteurs glacés qui peuvent couper le sentier à des altitudes inférieures ... fin juin, on n'est donc pas totalement à l'abri les années "à neige" ... mais en principe, c'est bon et le temps de passer du Léman au col du Brévent ...
A rapprocher ensuite du topo ou de la cartographie utilisée .... A noter, en principe, il s'agit d'une couverture continue, il reste aussi des plaques, névés ou secteurs glacés qui peuvent couper le sentier à des altitudes inférieures ... fin juin, on n'est donc pas totalement à l'abri les années "à neige" ... mais en principe, c'est bon et le temps de passer du Léman au col du Brévent ...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Ne jamais négliger une piste... évite souvent de passer à côté de l' info.
Merci pour l'info.... 🙂 Mais pour la partie du GR5 entre le Léman et Modane, il y a mieux comme informateur que guides ou OT de Valfréjus! CQFD. 😉
Jean-Claude 😎
Merci pour l'info.... 🙂 Mais pour la partie du GR5 entre le Léman et Modane, il y a mieux comme informateur que guides ou OT de Valfréjus! CQFD. 😉
Jean-Claude 😎
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hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro