Obtention du visa russe en pays limitrophes (Kiev - Cracovie - Oulan-Bator)
by Josettejoel
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Savez-vous, où et si, on peut acheter un visa Transit Russe à Kiev (Ukraine) ou à Cracovie (Pologne) ?
Si oui, quel délai, quel prix, quelles conditions ?
En effet, à l'aller de notre voyage en Chine, nous allons, après Kiev, juste transiter 3 à 5 jours maximum
en Russie pour rejoindre le Kazakhstan à Oral.
Nous aurons acheté, avant de partir, notre visa Kazakhe.
Pour info, pour le retour, nous comptons acheter notre visa Russe "Tourisme 1 mois" à OulanBator.
Quelqu'un a-t-il cette expérience ?
Merci à tous par avance.
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mes infos datent un peu mais si je me souviens bien visa transit c est niet.
en venant de l ouest a l epoque le visa russe etait facile a avoir a vilnius.
en venant de l est essaie plutot a hong kong, je l avais eu le meme jour.
en mongolie c etait tres cher rapport a une combine entre le consulat russe et une agence de voyage.
chine c est pas possible a beijing, mais me semble t il qu il y avait aussi un consulat a shangai?
le visa russe est hyper galere, voire impossible a avoir, dans certains consulats (je me rappelle d un gars rencontre au kirghizstan qui attendait le sien depuis deja 3 semaines, chais pas s il l a eu au final), et surprenament facile dans d autres, il faut donc que tu choisisses bien ou tu fais ta demande.
fais quelques recherches sur le net pour avoir les dernieres infos, bonne chance...
Bonjour Naps
Lors de notre dernière virée en 2011, en Asie Centrale/Mongolie, nous étions partis avec quasiment tous les visas, notamment un visa Russe "Affaires multiples entrées" que nous avions eu facilement car nous avions déjà obtenu, en 2008, un visa double entrée.
Nous avions uniquement acheté, et sans problème en une matinée, le visa Mongol à Almaty, pour cause de délai d'utilisation (90 jours). Cette année, nous achèterons notre visa Mongol à Pékin et le ferons prolonger si besoin à Oulanbator comme la dernière fois.
Nous étions passés à l'époque par une Agence, Visa Express Belgique, mais pour ce prochain voyage, nous comptions "faire moins cher" et acheter notre visa russe pour la 2ème entrée à Oulanbator. Le délai serait de 12 jours, confirmé par le Consulat Russe à Oulanbator. Par contre, pour notre 1ère entrée en Russie, pour rallier le Kazakhstan à Oral, à partir de l'Ukraine, le Consulat russe de Marseille nous propose uniquement un visa tourisme 1 mois avec lettre d'invitation obligatoire ! Pour une traversée de 3 à 4 jours maxi, c'est dommage. C'est pourquoi je questionnais pour Prague, Cracovie ou Kiev, villes où nous allons passer, mais pas rester, donc il faudrait aussi que le délai soit très court !
Nous glanons, par internet, tous renseignements pouvant nous être utiles, au niveau de précédents voyageurs, des différentes agences de visas, mais aussi des Ambassades ou Consulats , qui, eux-mêmes, ne répondent pas la même chose ! C'est la jungle !
Mais on va y arriver .....
En tout cas merci pour ta réponse, et bon dimanche.
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Bonjour.
A Cracovie, je ne sais pas mais à Varsovie, il est possible de l'obtenir.
Mais pour un visa transit, il est demandé un billet de train Pour pouvoir notifier le nombre de jours de traversée.
Souvent en Pologne ils sont mal aimables, ne parle que en russe.
Il faut se lever tôt car toute la diaspora fait la queue dès la première heure, d'où une longue, très longue file d'attente.
Je l'avais fait grâce à une agence spéciale 100e (70e en visa rapide + 30e de com' ça fait mal!) mais je n'avais pas le choix car l'ambassade de Russie à Paris m'avais mis un nombre de jours insuffisants pour mon trajet et j'avais un train pour Moscou quelques jours après. Je l'ai eu dès le lendemain.
Peut être essayer à Kiev (Il y aura moins de monde, les anciens pays de l'Urss n'ont pas besoin de visa pour la russie.)
Si il y a la barrière de la langue, demander à quelqu'un (En anglais par exemple) qui attend aussi d'aider pour remplir le formulaire.
A Vilnius je confirme qu'il est possible de l'avoir aussi.
Bon courage.
Merci Meluzine (quel joli prénom.....)
Nous nous orientons finalement, pour l'aller, sur un visa simple entrée acheté en France,
puisque, je le rappelle, de nouveaux règlements font que nous n'avons plus droit
à un visa affaire multiples entrées 6 mois comme déjà obtenu en 2011, et qui aurait
pu couvrir l'aller et le retour.
De plus, le visa de transit que nous souhaitions pour l'aller s'avèrerait trop court (72h) d'après ce que j'ai pu avoir comme renseignement, pour faire Sortie Ukraine-Entrée Kazakhstan. Nous passons par Cracovie et non par Varsovie, et ne faisons que traverser Kiev que nous connaissons déjà. L'aller doit se faire rapidement pour être à date fixée à la frontière chinoise, donc pas de perte de temps inutile pour acheter un visa au demeurant hypothétique... Ce sera donc un visa simple entrée 30 jours acheté en France, avec une lettre d'invitation obligatoire puisque nous n'avons pas de voucher, voyageant en cellule/4x4, parfaitement autonomes et sans besoin ni d'agence, ni de structure hôtelière. Nous achèterons donc un visa 30 jours pour le retour à Oulaan-Bator, en sortant de Chine. J'espère qu'il ne nous sera pas demandé de lettre d'invitation pour ce visa...... Merci en tout cas pour cette réponse. Josette
De plus, le visa de transit que nous souhaitions pour l'aller s'avèrerait trop court (72h) d'après ce que j'ai pu avoir comme renseignement, pour faire Sortie Ukraine-Entrée Kazakhstan. Nous passons par Cracovie et non par Varsovie, et ne faisons que traverser Kiev que nous connaissons déjà. L'aller doit se faire rapidement pour être à date fixée à la frontière chinoise, donc pas de perte de temps inutile pour acheter un visa au demeurant hypothétique... Ce sera donc un visa simple entrée 30 jours acheté en France, avec une lettre d'invitation obligatoire puisque nous n'avons pas de voucher, voyageant en cellule/4x4, parfaitement autonomes et sans besoin ni d'agence, ni de structure hôtelière. Nous achèterons donc un visa 30 jours pour le retour à Oulaan-Bator, en sortant de Chine. J'espère qu'il ne nous sera pas demandé de lettre d'invitation pour ce visa...... Merci en tout cas pour cette réponse. Josette
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My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie






