Algérie sans passeport?
by Fiodra
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous, j'ai entendu dire que desormais on pouvait se rendre en algerie avec un passeport français et une carte d'identité algerienne à la place du passeport algerien, quelqu'un peut il me confirmer cela? Si ça peut m'eviter de demander un passeport algerien et toutes les galeres qui vont avec 🤪 Merci! Fio
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Impossible, il te faut un passeport à l'entrée du térritoire algerien, ton passeprot français suffit, mais il te faut un visa, voir avec le consulat d'algerie peut etre qu'ils ont des facilités pour ce genre de cas ( obtenir un visa n'est pas aussi galére que ça ).
salut!
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M.... dire que j'ai fait faire une cni au consulat, alors rebelote pour un visa! Merci quand meme! bonne journée fio
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bonjour,
je reviens d'algérie et c'est vrai que j'ai vu des algériens avec le passeport francais et la carte d'identé algérienne qui ont passé la
douane sans problème. j'ai posé la question à ces personnes qui m'ont dis qu'ils faisaient celà depuis plusieurs mois.
est ce que c'est légal? j'ai posé la question au consulat d'algérie et ils n'etait pas en mesure de me répondre!!!!
a moins d'essayer par soi meme, je ne vois pas qui pourra nous donner la réponse.
si j'ai des infos, je n'hésiterai a les communiquer.
🙂
Bonjour et merci Omar, ici non plus à Lyon le sce des passeports n'a pas su me repondre 🤪 alors si eux ne savent pas en effet.... Mais obtenir ( enfin arriver au guichet) un passeport releve du parcours du combattant, alors si jamais tu entends de quoi me rassurer je compte sur tes infos!!! merci encore et bonne journée Fio
SO
en effet moi aussi j'avais entendu parler de cette pratique et le consulat general algerien de paris n'a pu me renseigner!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
Enfin, Mamid, je connais trop les rouages de la paperasserie pour m'y prendre au dernier moment, mais j'ai obtenu l'info et je me suis hatée de faire ma cni en "periode creuse", maintenant je suis prise d'un doute et je me pose des questions! Au pire je ferai un visa, comme je ne vais pas souvent au bled, c'est triste que l'administration ne nous renseigne pas davantage, mais finalement c'est à peine surprenant! Merci et bonne journée Fio
SO
😎 SALUT !! c'est juste pour jetter de l'huile sur le feu !!!!!!
Avant 1994 !! c'est à dire !! avant la fermeture des frontieres terrestres entre le Maroc et l'Algérie !! ( c'est bon ? vous me suivez ??) les Algériens arrivaient au Maroc en nationalitée Française !! et entraient en Algérie en nationalitée Algérienne !! c'est bien d'avoir deux passeports et deux nationalitées !!
PAPY (qui n'a qu'un seul passeport-- dommage !!)
Avant 1994 !! c'est à dire !! avant la fermeture des frontieres terrestres entre le Maroc et l'Algérie !! ( c'est bon ? vous me suivez ??) les Algériens arrivaient au Maroc en nationalitée Française !! et entraient en Algérie en nationalitée Algérienne !! c'est bien d'avoir deux passeports et deux nationalitées !!
PAPY (qui n'a qu'un seul passeport-- dommage !!)
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
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Salut Papy, le probleme reside dans l'inutilité d'en avoir 2 si un seul suffit, et en l'occurence le seul fait de perdre du temps au consulat est en soi dissuasif!!! Merci quand meme Fio
SO
L'Algérie sans passeport? Oui, c'est possible.Il te suffit de faire comme Johnny dans "Il était une fois dans l' Oued".🙂
D'après ce que tu dis mamid, c'est + long d'avoir son visa en juin? Mais à partir de quand exactement ils mettent + de temps?
je pars le 8 juin, quand dois-je le faire pour être dans les temps?
Merci.
en effet moi aussi j'avais entendu parler de cette pratique et le consulat general algerien de paris n'a pu me renseigner!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
en effet moi aussi j'avais entendu parler de cette pratique et le consulat general algerien de paris n'a pu me renseigner!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
bojour fiodra,
Un conseil a te donner si tu veux se rendre en Algérie le mieux c'est de partire avec un passeport algérien .parce que avec un passeport français il faudra demander un visa a chaque foi que tu veut yalé .et en plus avec un passeport algérien tu pourra rester le temps que tu veux en cas de besoin, c'est pas le cas avec un visa.
Et pour avoir ton passeport tu pourra l'avoir ces jours ci en 2 heur maxi si ta tous tes doc, c'est pas vraiment galère, après tous si tu vas en mois de juin ou juillet c’est normal que ça va être 1 pti pe compliqué .
salam
les autorités consulaires commencent a mettre plus de temps des qu'il y a de l'affluence c'est a dire avant les depart en vacances qui commence en juin!!
ton depart s'effectue dans 1 mois exactement, je te conseil de faire le depot maintenant pour en etre debarassé!
quand on dit que ça prend du temps, oui ça met longtemps! mais le visa il le donne toujours avant la date de depart c'est pas des sadiques non plus!!!mais au lieu de l'obtenir au bout de 3jours (periode creuse) lors de l'affluence ça prends de 3 à 15jrs! voir parfois on l'obtient 2 jours avant son depart!
donc un conseil wamo vas y des a presents ou bien dans les 2 prochaines semaines, mais en tout cas avant le 1er juin, pour ne pas passer tes journées au consulat!
ton depart s'effectue dans 1 mois exactement, je te conseil de faire le depot maintenant pour en etre debarassé!
quand on dit que ça prend du temps, oui ça met longtemps! mais le visa il le donne toujours avant la date de depart c'est pas des sadiques non plus!!!mais au lieu de l'obtenir au bout de 3jours (periode creuse) lors de l'affluence ça prends de 3 à 15jrs! voir parfois on l'obtient 2 jours avant son depart!
donc un conseil wamo vas y des a presents ou bien dans les 2 prochaines semaines, mais en tout cas avant le 1er juin, pour ne pas passer tes journées au consulat!
Merci Mamid et maintenant ça ne me rassure pas car mon ami ne m'a toujours pas fait l'attestation d' accueil !!🤪
Il va la faire en principe dimanche à sa mairie, en espérant qu'il puisse..........Et j'irai au consulat le 20 mai car je ne peux m'y rendre que le samedi en plus !!!!!!!!!!!!!😕
Le plus galère c'est d'arriver au guichet 🤪 apres c'est sur c'est reglé! Bonne soirée et merci!! Fio
SO
Bonjour Fio. Pour ma part, je me rends en algérie (alger) au moyen de mon passeport algérien et de ma CNI française. Donc l'inverse passeport français et CNI algérienne, doivent être de mise. Mais par mesure de prudence, vous devriez téléphoner à la PAF (police des frontières) de l'aéroport ou de la gare maritime, (voir n° tél. sur internet), qui vous renseigneront utilement. Bon voyage !
Oui, je vais faire ça des aujourd'hui, mais pour trouver le numero du port d'accueil😕, je vais deja chercher sur le net, bonne idée! Merci et bonne journée Fio
SO
Bonjour,
Je vais bientot partir en Algérie, j'ai mon passeort francais et une CNI algérienne.
Mon père s'est renseigné au près d'un agent de la PAF Houari Boumedienne et celui-ci
lui a dit que le passeport francais et la CNI algerienne suffisaient.
A votre avis puis-je partir sans problème (je n'ai que 16 ans).
Amicalement.
J'ai eu confirmation par mon neveu qui est parti ce matin, l'autorisation paternelle n'est plus exigée, du coup tu peux partir avec ce documents sans souci! Bon voyage!
SO
Bonsoir,
Voila c'est ça, du coup tu peux partir sans visa avec ces 2 documents!
Voila c'est ça, du coup tu peux partir sans visa avec ces 2 documents!
SO
Bonjour,
Une amie est dans la galère et n'a pas eu le temps de s'en ocuper avant!!
Elle part en algerie dimanche mais elle vient de se rendre compte qu elle n'a pas de passeport francais! En revanche elle a un passeport algerien et carte d identité francaise.
Sa question est de savoir s il y aura un problème? La carte d identité francaise suffit elle.?
Merci
Une amie est dans la galère et n'a pas eu le temps de s'en ocuper avant!!
Elle part en algerie dimanche mais elle vient de se rendre compte qu elle n'a pas de passeport francais! En revanche elle a un passeport algerien et carte d identité francaise.
Sa question est de savoir s il y aura un problème? La carte d identité francaise suffit elle.?
Merci
Bonjour a tous,
Je viens de m adherer a ce forum, j ai une petite question svp ! suite a l expiration de ma carte de sejour d 1 an, j ai recu un recepisse d un mois et declenche un rendez vous pour le renouvellement de ma carte de sejour en France, je compte partir en Algerie pour qq jours, et on m a bien informee au niveau de la prefecture que je pourrais me deplacer avec ce recepisse, mais voila qu une amie me previent qu au niveau de l aeroport d Alger ( lors des enregistrements, Controle de documents et a la PAF ) il pourrait avoir un risque de non obtention de permission d entree en France, qui veut dire etre refoulee !!!! est ce bien vrai, j ai deja pris mes billets, et je me vois deja dans les bras de mes vieux parents qui me manquent... pourriez vous m aider svp, Bien cordialement
Je viens de m adherer a ce forum, j ai une petite question svp ! suite a l expiration de ma carte de sejour d 1 an, j ai recu un recepisse d un mois et declenche un rendez vous pour le renouvellement de ma carte de sejour en France, je compte partir en Algerie pour qq jours, et on m a bien informee au niveau de la prefecture que je pourrais me deplacer avec ce recepisse, mais voila qu une amie me previent qu au niveau de l aeroport d Alger ( lors des enregistrements, Controle de documents et a la PAF ) il pourrait avoir un risque de non obtention de permission d entree en France, qui veut dire etre refoulee !!!! est ce bien vrai, j ai deja pris mes billets, et je me vois deja dans les bras de mes vieux parents qui me manquent... pourriez vous m aider svp, Bien cordialement
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Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.




