Northern Thailand by bike: Bangkok to Chiang Mai route
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Hi there, Here’s our plan: traveling to CHIANG MAI from BANGKOK, passing through AYUTTHAYA and SUKHOTHAI, all by tandem bike with a trailer and a child. What do you think of this route (distance, scenery, elevation, challenges, etc.)? Any great tips for lodging or other advice are welcome. Thanks in advance.
PP Ppii Regular ·
Hello, I believe it—checked out VF member LUMPINI, the hero of the north. Personally, I only know the main roads by car, and I think the climbs aren’t too scary. That said, biking in Thailand puts you at the bottom of the food chain, so keep left and expect to get jostled in some of the narrower stretches up north.

What worries me more is the heat, especially with a child in tow. Avoid April in the north at all costs—I’d recommend November to February. The landscapes change (though not like in Europe), and the central plains might feel long. The climbs and scenery shifts really start around Utaradit and Pitsanulok.

I’d leave Bangkok by train to Ayutthaya.

Now, wait for other replies to piece it all together.
RO Routard14 Veteran ·
🙂 The Bangkok to Chiang Mai road is pretty dull and has really heavy traffic if you take the small roads. You’ll need a **very** good GPS because signs are often only in Thai, and it climbs a lot. To check the elevation changes based on your route, head to Google Earth—it shows altitudes with meter precision. I’ve got 300 photos of the whole trip on my site!

www.jpaventure.com
VA Vapkse Regular ·
Hello.

I have a fantastic route with GPS tracks and KML files for Google Earth that goes through Kanchanaburi, Tha Kradan, Ban Tin Tok, Ban Rai, Mae Wong, Kamphaeng Phet, Tak, Mae Sot, Tha Song Yang, Mae Sariang, Khun Yuam, Mae Hong Son, Ban Chan, Samoeng, and Chiang Mai.

For the return trip, it's by bus to Sukhothai, then by bike to Bangkok in three days.

There are few national roads, and lots of trails and small roads. However, this route is very physical, and you need to travel light. It’s about 2,150 km with over 21,000 m of elevation gain. It took me a month with a bike under 30 kg. The return from Chiang Mai can be done by bus or train, which shortens the distance quite a bit, but doesn’t reduce the elevation gain since it’s practically flat.

I posted some photos here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/sergeetsoa/Thailande2009

Cycling through the Karen villages is just amazing. The people are welcoming and even kinder than the Thais (which is saying something), and it more than makes up for the effort it takes to get there.

If you want the KML files, send me your email via PM.

Serge
PP Ppii Regular ·
Hi, This is a bike tour—less traffic and more scenery, but watch out for the hills with the trailer and the kid in back. If you've got the time, though, it's way better.
JA Jamesulysse ·
hi there, I did this route a few years ago (2004) taking the western route (Kanchanaburi, Uthai Thani, Kamphaeng Phet, Tak, Hot, Mae Sariang, Mae Hong Son). It’s a beautiful itinerary, especially the final stretch through the mountains along the Burmese border. But it’s pretty demanding physically, with some serious elevation changes—tandem with a trailer? Forget about it! This year, I’m heading out solo with a trailer (my daughter inside and me pedaling, or the other way around, depending on the day!) and I’m opting for a flatter route (southern part of the country). I’m used to hills (I live on Réunion Island, which IS one big hill), but with the trailer, it’s a whole different ball game. For temperatures, if you go between November and February, you’re good.

If you’ve got any other questions, don’t hesitate. Safe travels!
BE Berber Veteran ·
Back in 2003, I did it in the north-to-south direction with a detour to Umphang, then a day and a half heading full east through the jungle with two Hmong guides and a pilgrim monk. The bike ended up being carried like a tiger on a bamboo pole, but I really enjoyed it. Safe travels, and don’t dose your daughter up too much when she’s in the trailer, huh!
PP Ppii Regular ·
Good evening, I just looked at the photos—exactly the time of year I advised against in my first reply. Beautiful region, stunning landscapes, charming little village, it’s all there, but the climbs after the storms—I wouldn’t wish them on anyone, not even on foot or in a 4x4. I think next time it won’t be this season, right? Selenit, looking at the photos, the main roads at the start make up at least 50% of the route through the center (not very interesting). Up to you to decide.
SE Selenit ·
Thanks everyone for your replies—I think I’ll revise my itinerary and probably tweak it a bit. I’ll look into it right away and share my new plan with you. Thanks again!
VA Vapkse Regular ·
Hi there.

All the main roads can be avoided, especially in the plains—you just need to spend time on Google Earth to find parallel paths, roads, or tracks, and load up a GPS. Otherwise, you’re guaranteed to get lost. That said, the prep work is *very* time-consuming, and you’ll need Google’s maps to be detailed for the region you’re visiting. It might also limit your daily kilometers if you’re trying to cover ground. On a dirt track, you’ll go slower than on a main road, plus you’ll be stopping all the time to chat or take photos. It’s also a good idea to have a backup GPS in case the first one fails and you don’t want to end up back on the main roads. But if the prep is solid, even a basic GPS without maps—like a Garmin 205—will do the trick.

For mountain biking in tandem, it’s already pushing your limits if you’re strong, and with a trailer, forget it. The route before Mae Sariang from the south is brutal, and Mae Hong Son to Samoeng? I won’t even get into it. In Mae Sariang, I caught up with a German couple who’d taken two days to cover the same stretch and were heading straight to Chiang Mai, completely put off. Best to avoid ending up there.

Serge
SE Selenit ·
After digging around online, I found this route that seems way cooler: Chiang Rai - Wiang Pa Pao - Chiang Khong - Mae Sai - Tha Ton - Doi Thung - Phrao - Chiang Dao - Chiang Mai - with the must-see Doi Suthep.

Thoughts from those in the know?
PP Ppii Regular ·
Hello, Doi Suthep is an excursion in the outskirts of Chiang Mai (a nice climb, though—good exercise with the return to Chiang Mai). The main-road trip from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai during the season (watch out) is pretty good, despite two passes that shouldn’t be underestimated and heavy traffic. Mae Sai is a breeze (still on the main road). So why not take a detour through Chiang Saen, Chiang Khong, Chiang Kham, Phayao, and return to Chiang Mai via the Wang Nua route? After all, when exploring the north, you won’t escape the climbs—sometimes my tractor struggles to make it up!

Have you checked out Monsieur LUMPINI’s site? It’s worth it—he’s explored these regions but via the backroads.
PP Ppii Regular ·
Hi there, I’m sorry to bother you, but a little question just popped into my head—just for info, do you know Thailand? And if so, which places? To help you out, it’d be easier if I knew a bit more—there’s no info on your profile?
SE Selenit ·
Nope, unfortunately we’ve never been to Thailand. It’d be a first for us!!!
PP Ppii Regular ·
Hello, That’s exactly what I thought, but no worries—there’s no problem at all. You’re just going to discover another planet. It’s good to know that upfront. Maybe someone can cook up a route for you. You’ve already had several suggestions, but the north is all about mountains—not very high ones, though. The roads take shortcuts, which is why the climbs are so steep, and that’s also why everyone talks about the "chariot" behind. Anyway, I encourage you to keep going! Grab a map and check where the peaks and valleys are. The route I suggested isn’t very original, but it limited the climbs and kilometers a bit more. So, the next question: how much time do you have? http://voyageforum.com/membres/lumpini/v.f?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvelo-thailand.over-blog.com%2F http://voyageforum.com/membres/lumpini/v.f?url=http%3A%2F%2Friton.travelblog.fr%2F Here are the links to check out Lumpini’s travels. Have a great day, and happy reading!
SU Supervéloman Regular ·
Like the others, I can confirm that the CM - Mae Sariang - Mae Hong Son section, while beautiful, is also... grueling. Really, really tough, even for me since I was well-trained. The terrain is a bit like the Alps in terms of elevation, with some steep climbs and very tight turns. The moral of the story? If you "park" your bike on a slope and brake, the bike—weighed down by luggage—will slide backward... Tough on the morale... But reach out to Eric "Lumpini"—he’ll whip up a tailor-made route for you. Either way, have a great and beautiful trip. The key is to believe in it, right?
TH Throdet ·
Hello, My name is Thierry, I live in Thailand, and I do a bit of cycling. Your route with GPS tracks and KML files for Google Earth really interests me (the one passing through Kanchanaburi, Tha Kradan, Ban Tin Tok, Ban Rai, Mae Wong, Kamphaeng Phet, Tak, Mae Sot, Tha Song Yang, Mae Sariang, Khun Yuam, Mae Hong Son, Ban Chan, Samoeng, Chiang Mai). I hope you still have these precious details. Thanks a lot! Thierry

Hello.

I have a fantastic route with GPS tracks and KML files for Google Earth that passes through Kanchanaburi, Tha Kradan, Ban Tin Tok, Ban Rai, Mae Wong, Kamphaeng Phet, Tak, Mae Sot, Tha Song Yang, Mae Sariang, Khun Yuam, Mae Hong Son, Ban Chan, Samoeng, and Chiang Mai.

For the return trip, I took a bus to Sukhothai, then cycled back to Bangkok in three days.

There are few national roads, and lots of trails and small routes. However, this route is very demanding physically, and you need to travel light. It’s about 2,150 km with over 21,000 m of elevation gain. It took me a month with a bike weighing under 30 kg. The return from Chiang Mai can be done by bus or train, which shortens the distance quite a bit, but doesn’t reduce the elevation gain since it’s practically flat.

I posted some photos here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/sergeetsoa/Thailande2009

Cycling through the Karen villages is just amazing. The people are welcoming and even kinder than the Thais (which is saying a lot), and it more than makes up for the effort it takes to get there.

If you want the KML files, send me your email via PM.

Serge
VA Vapkse Regular ·
Hi Thierry,

All my routes are available here: http://www.bikemap.net/user/vapkse/routes

You can export them.

Serge
TH Throdet ·
Thanks, I just realized you had replied! I can't open the link, but I installed Bikemap, so I'll figure it out. Thanks!

Hello Thierry,

All my routes are available here: http://www.bikemap.net/user/vapkse/routes

You can export them.

Serge
VA Vapkse Regular ·
Hi

The links have changed over time, try this URL: http://www.bikemap.net/fr/user/vapkse/

Sege

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