Découvrir Fez et ses alentours
by Ruboisé
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut à tous, je vais à Fès pendant une semaine dans un mois. je suis à la recherche de tous tuyaux intéressants pour visiter cette ville
et ses alentours. transports..
salut!
à citer les thermes molay yakoob, à ne pas ràter!
prendre un grand taxi d'en face de la gare du train à 20 dh, jusqu'à molay yakoob où tu peus te baigner et y manger un tajine ou harira.tu peux aussi y loger mais négocie le prix!
ya aussi ayne Allah, une source médicinale.
Sidi hrazam aussi.
tu peux aussi y visiter la Médina, y consacrer une journée et en profiter pr le shopping surtout les souvenire en cuir, ou en profiter por acheter un jaket en cuir, négocie le prix!visiter Méknès, ifrane.
voilà!
enjoy it!
where there is a will, there is a way!
tu peux te procurer à Fès le guide des circuits balisés, un guide vert "des circuits touristiques thématiques", très bien fait, des balades qui te feront découvrir Fès sous toutes ses formes.
6 circuits différents.
"fes de baba en bab" : j'ai aimé aussi les circuits proposés (à acheter en france celui-là)
le petit "voyager pratique" Fes-Meknes de Michelin est bien aussi
tu peux aller passer une journée à Meknès : par le train c'est à 30 minutes, une journée suffit ! si tu es e voiture, tu pousses jusque Volubilis si tu aimes les ruines romaines. ça faiy une belle journée.
toujours pour dégager en touche" une journée : une balade vers Azrou, forêt de cèdres, singes magots, (voiture de loc ou taxi) tu as des bus mais pour une journée, bien moins de liberté.
n'oublies pas de faire le tour de la ville par les Bordjs : vues impressionnantes de la ville dans les montagnes.
se "perdre" dans les souks : on ne finit jamais d'explorer toutes ces ruelles? tu peux y acheter tes épices pour la maison, des emporte-pièces à petits gâteaux si tu es gourmand ... et tous les trésors de l'artisanat marocain.
visiter une fabrique de potier à la périphérie de la ville : on assiste à tout le procédé de fabrication. le "bleu" de Fès typique de la fabrication de Fès, mais pas exhaustif. les tanneries
y'a des endroits touristes +++ et d'autres ou y'a plus un "chat européen" : le long de l'oued Fès, calme, sympa. le resto "la noria", manger dehors sous les orangers, sympa, pas bien cher;
j'ai bien aimé aller diner le soir en ville moderne, ça fait respirer un peu.
Fès est une ville magnifique !
quelques photos de Fès
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1644027777396.92558.1137903877&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1119529905277.20583.1137903877&type=3
🙂
tu peux aller passer une journée à Meknès : par le train c'est à 30 minutes, une journée suffit ! si tu es e voiture, tu pousses jusque Volubilis si tu aimes les ruines romaines. ça faiy une belle journée.
toujours pour dégager en touche" une journée : une balade vers Azrou, forêt de cèdres, singes magots, (voiture de loc ou taxi) tu as des bus mais pour une journée, bien moins de liberté.
n'oublies pas de faire le tour de la ville par les Bordjs : vues impressionnantes de la ville dans les montagnes.
se "perdre" dans les souks : on ne finit jamais d'explorer toutes ces ruelles? tu peux y acheter tes épices pour la maison, des emporte-pièces à petits gâteaux si tu es gourmand ... et tous les trésors de l'artisanat marocain.
visiter une fabrique de potier à la périphérie de la ville : on assiste à tout le procédé de fabrication. le "bleu" de Fès typique de la fabrication de Fès, mais pas exhaustif. les tanneries
y'a des endroits touristes +++ et d'autres ou y'a plus un "chat européen" : le long de l'oued Fès, calme, sympa. le resto "la noria", manger dehors sous les orangers, sympa, pas bien cher;
j'ai bien aimé aller diner le soir en ville moderne, ça fait respirer un peu.
Fès est une ville magnifique !
quelques photos de Fès
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1644027777396.92558.1137903877&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1119529905277.20583.1137903877&type=3
🙂
Bonjour,
Dans les alentours de Fès:
-Ifrane, je n'ai pas apprécié du tout.
-J'ai beaucoup aimé Séfrou et sa petite médina...
-Meknès est facilement accessible en train.
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Bonsoir!
c'est un plaisir de t'aider!
surtout que fés mérite d'étre visitée!
le tps du trajet de la gare à Molay yakoub je crois que c une demie heure.
Ayne Allah se trouve vers la route de Moulay yakoub mais je ne sais pas s'il existe un taxi direct.
autre chose, bizarement: le grand taxi de la gare qui mène à 20 dh par personne (il prend six passagers) n'accépete pas qu'on te prend seul à un prix vértigineux soit disant pr gagner le tps ou pr ton confort!ces taxis là, à ton retour vers fés, tu ne paieras que 15 dh!
faut toujours avoir de la monnaie sur toi!
Sefrou est une petite ville à coté pas trop de choses à y voir à part ses cascades!
à fés tu apprécieras aussi le Khliàà c de la viande de mouton salie épicée et séchée au soleil puis cuite avec de la graisse! très bon avec des oeufs en tajine au petit déjeuner!myam yam! en plus c'est une spécialité de la ville!
Sidi harazem est une source médicinale réputée par son eau qui traite les lithiases rénales mais pour y aller?? sùrement il y a des moyens de transport en commun près de la gare routière cette fois ci!
et si Fès t'ennuie un peu: Taza, la porte du moyen atlas n'est pas très loine où l'ancienne médina avec ses ruelles et aussi la fameuse grotte de Friouato et les sources de Rass lma. voilà! pour une semaine, faudra planifier et gérer ton temps pour voir le max!
ah , j'ai oublié: la nouga: friandise fassie faite par des cacaouètes caramélisées ou de la graine de lin ou autre! myam yam!
enjoy it!
à fés tu apprécieras aussi le Khliàà c de la viande de mouton salie épicée et séchée au soleil puis cuite avec de la graisse! très bon avec des oeufs en tajine au petit déjeuner!myam yam! en plus c'est une spécialité de la ville!
Sidi harazem est une source médicinale réputée par son eau qui traite les lithiases rénales mais pour y aller?? sùrement il y a des moyens de transport en commun près de la gare routière cette fois ci!
et si Fès t'ennuie un peu: Taza, la porte du moyen atlas n'est pas très loine où l'ancienne médina avec ses ruelles et aussi la fameuse grotte de Friouato et les sources de Rass lma. voilà! pour une semaine, faudra planifier et gérer ton temps pour voir le max!
ah , j'ai oublié: la nouga: friandise fassie faite par des cacaouètes caramélisées ou de la graine de lin ou autre! myam yam!
enjoy it!
where there is a will, there is a way!
de rien J Pierre , 🙂 Fès est une ville que j'aime particulièrement. on en finit jamais de la découvrir.
je crois que c'est à Séfrou que je suis allée dans une habitation troglodyte. faut demander, on ne les trouve pas facilement. et elles sont habitées : je ne le savais pas et j'ai été horriblement gênée car je pensais qu'il s'agissait d'anciens habitas. en fait c'est plutôt des trous dans le sol ..... habitats très pauvres. une vieille dame charmante nous a reçu, elle avait sur son métier à tisser un petit tapis : une pure merveille qui, vendue à paris, lui aurait rapporté une petite fortune. 🤪
je crois que c'est à Séfrou que je suis allée dans une habitation troglodyte. faut demander, on ne les trouve pas facilement. et elles sont habitées : je ne le savais pas et j'ai été horriblement gênée car je pensais qu'il s'agissait d'anciens habitas. en fait c'est plutôt des trous dans le sol ..... habitats très pauvres. une vieille dame charmante nous a reçu, elle avait sur son métier à tisser un petit tapis : une pure merveille qui, vendue à paris, lui aurait rapporté une petite fortune. 🤪
Bonsoir Jean-Pierre
Connais-tu le meilleur moyen pour joindre Sefou à partit de Fès
J'y suis allé en taxi (grand taxi loué pour l'occasion). Sur la route, Bhalil est un beau petit village perché...
Quelques photos:
Séfrou:


Bhalil:


Connais-tu le meilleur moyen pour joindre Sefou à partit de Fès
J'y suis allé en taxi (grand taxi loué pour l'occasion). Sur la route, Bhalil est un beau petit village perché...
Quelques photos:
Séfrou:


Bhalil:


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bonjour
interesses par votre avis
on me propose un petit trek sur la montagne de BHALIL avec 5 h de marche
qu en pensez vous , quel interet ? Villages, paysages , cultures ?
Merci pour votre avis et tout tuyau sur Fes ou nous devons passer 4 jours la semaine prochaine ; vaut il mieux privilegier uniquement Fes ou pouvons nous envisager un jour ailleurs ? trek , Meknes ...?
je ne connais pas ce coin, mais après avoir regardé sur le net, j'avoue que je me laisserais bien tenter....
l'atlas est beau partout, les habitats troglodytes, y'en a pas partout, et puis, sortir des sentiers battus, faut faire 🙂
http://atlas-authentique.blogspot.fr/2012/06/moyen-atlas-bahlil.html
4 jours à Fès : vous pouvez les remplir entièrement avec la ville, très très "riche", mais aussi pourquoi pas une journée à l'extérieur ? l'idée se défend ..... en tout cas, chacun de mes séjours au Maroc a été une invitation pour celui d'après...... alors ?? (là je pars vers Compostelle, mais l'an prochain, ou cet automne, j'irais marcher dans ces coins là ou dans le Rif, ou sur la côte dans le sud .... ou ....magie du Maroc🙂)
l'atlas est beau partout, les habitats troglodytes, y'en a pas partout, et puis, sortir des sentiers battus, faut faire 🙂
http://atlas-authentique.blogspot.fr/2012/06/moyen-atlas-bahlil.html
4 jours à Fès : vous pouvez les remplir entièrement avec la ville, très très "riche", mais aussi pourquoi pas une journée à l'extérieur ? l'idée se défend ..... en tout cas, chacun de mes séjours au Maroc a été une invitation pour celui d'après...... alors ?? (là je pars vers Compostelle, mais l'an prochain, ou cet automne, j'irais marcher dans ces coins là ou dans le Rif, ou sur la côte dans le sud .... ou ....magie du Maroc🙂)
merci pour votre reponse et bon voyage à Compostelle
Bonsoir Isabelle,
Bhalil est une petite ville très agréable, située à proximité de Séfrou à l'entrée des moyens Atlas, située à 28 kms de Fès. Il est aisé de s'y rendre. Il suffit de prendre un grand taxi à Bâb-Ftouh dans la Médina (taxis collectifs) ou à la station Atlas dans la nouvelle ville. Les tarifs officiels des grands taxis sont affichés à gauche en sortant de l'aéroport. Négociez directement les tarifs avec les chauffeurs. Evitez les intermédiaires des hôtels ou autres qui prennent des commissions. Bhalil est une ville très colorée et agréable. Les gens y sont accueillants; déambuler dans ses ruelles est un plaisir. Même la visite touristique de la maison troglodyte d'Aïcha n'est pas dénuée d'intérêt. En ce qui concerne une marche à partir de Bhalil, je ne peux pas vraiment vous donner plus de conseils, sinon que la période est faste, les chemins sont fleuris (coquelicots, fleurs jaunes dont je ne connais le nom, bref de beaux tapis de couleurs recouvrent ces basses montagnes. Vers le sud, direction Immouzer et les dayets (lacs) la nature est plus austère. Fès nécessite de prendre son temps pour la découvrir. Un théâtre vivant! La médina de Fès el Bali est fabuleuse...mouvementée, vivante...Fès el Jedid bien différente, est bien agréable en traversant le jardin Jnane Smil le long de l'oued vers le restaurant la Noria et découvrir le Mellah (quartier juif). Déambuler sur les collines au niveau des Bjords est très agréable également, vue magnifique sue la médina, sentiers fleuris. Une visite de Meknès vaut le détour. Prendre un petit taxi jusqu'à la gare ONCF, puis prendre le train (pas cher du tout) et simplement 30 mn de trajet. Il y a un train toutes les heures jusqu'à 19h30. De la gare de Meknès prendre un petit taxi jusqu'à Bâb Mansour et à vous le plaisir de la découverte: d'un côté la place el hedim, la médina, la médersa, le petit musée etc...de l'autre la ville impériale, le mausolée de Moulay Ismail (gratuit), les greniers... Si cela vous intéresse Youssef , jeune chauffeur de taxi est bien sympa appelez le de notre part au 0699O29867 ou 0669956953 (usf_khadiri@hotmail.fr) Il peut venir à la gare si votre avion arrive après le dernier bus.(120 Dh la course, 15ODh la nuit). Bon voyage Jean Pierre
Bhalil est une petite ville très agréable, située à proximité de Séfrou à l'entrée des moyens Atlas, située à 28 kms de Fès. Il est aisé de s'y rendre. Il suffit de prendre un grand taxi à Bâb-Ftouh dans la Médina (taxis collectifs) ou à la station Atlas dans la nouvelle ville. Les tarifs officiels des grands taxis sont affichés à gauche en sortant de l'aéroport. Négociez directement les tarifs avec les chauffeurs. Evitez les intermédiaires des hôtels ou autres qui prennent des commissions. Bhalil est une ville très colorée et agréable. Les gens y sont accueillants; déambuler dans ses ruelles est un plaisir. Même la visite touristique de la maison troglodyte d'Aïcha n'est pas dénuée d'intérêt. En ce qui concerne une marche à partir de Bhalil, je ne peux pas vraiment vous donner plus de conseils, sinon que la période est faste, les chemins sont fleuris (coquelicots, fleurs jaunes dont je ne connais le nom, bref de beaux tapis de couleurs recouvrent ces basses montagnes. Vers le sud, direction Immouzer et les dayets (lacs) la nature est plus austère. Fès nécessite de prendre son temps pour la découvrir. Un théâtre vivant! La médina de Fès el Bali est fabuleuse...mouvementée, vivante...Fès el Jedid bien différente, est bien agréable en traversant le jardin Jnane Smil le long de l'oued vers le restaurant la Noria et découvrir le Mellah (quartier juif). Déambuler sur les collines au niveau des Bjords est très agréable également, vue magnifique sue la médina, sentiers fleuris. Une visite de Meknès vaut le détour. Prendre un petit taxi jusqu'à la gare ONCF, puis prendre le train (pas cher du tout) et simplement 30 mn de trajet. Il y a un train toutes les heures jusqu'à 19h30. De la gare de Meknès prendre un petit taxi jusqu'à Bâb Mansour et à vous le plaisir de la découverte: d'un côté la place el hedim, la médina, la médersa, le petit musée etc...de l'autre la ville impériale, le mausolée de Moulay Ismail (gratuit), les greniers... Si cela vous intéresse Youssef , jeune chauffeur de taxi est bien sympa appelez le de notre part au 0699O29867 ou 0669956953 (usf_khadiri@hotmail.fr) Il peut venir à la gare si votre avion arrive après le dernier bus.(120 Dh la course, 15ODh la nuit). Bon voyage Jean Pierre
merci pour tous ces renseignements , il nous tarde de voir Fes, nous partons demain !
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!






