En direct de Koh Phi Phi
by Scredconex
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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voila cela fait 3 jours que l on se trouve sur ko phi phi et perso je me fait chier a part sortir au apache bar ou au hippies phi phi t en a vite fait le tour puis autre chose c est blindee d anglophone puis il sont froid pas un sourir c est une ambiance mistique parcontre point de vue climat sa cartonne c est plein soleil bon si il y a des francais sur l ile s est un plaisir de faire connaissance on est a 4
si apprendre coûte trop chère essayez l'ignorance
Comment est koh pipi maintenant, moi j'y suis alle avant le tsunami, Le proprietaire de notre guesthosue PHI PHI DREAM a vecu 23 ans en France, il aime le ricard, parle le francais couramment avec son ami CHRIS, nous avons pique des bons fous rires.
amicalment
tintina
que la puissance de la jungle soit avec toi
Mon site http://tintina.com
Je ne connait pas la Thailande.
Mais je pense, que tu dois avoir des ballades, à pied, en moto, à faire....
Pourquoi, tu ne changes pas d'endroit ?
Avec tous les post, que j'ai lu par le VFistes, en Thailande, tu as de quoi faire, et pour tous les goûts.
Propose à tes amis(ies) de changer d'endroit, vu ce que j'ai lu, il n'y a aucun problème pour se déplacer.
C'est les vacances, ça te plaît, tu leur en parles et maintenant c'est toi qui choisis. Chacun son tour.
Bonnes Vacances et profites.
Je pense que l'Ile de Koh Phi Phi Don ne te convient pas du tout!
Bien entendu qu'il y a beaucoup de visiteurs anglo-saxons et de
scandinaves depuis le grand Tsunami du 26 Décembre 2004.
A Ton Sai il y a une très sympatique communauté de Français
très aimables qui y vivent à l'année et en Eté comme en Hiver
il y a plein de gens amoureux de KPP viennent passer leurs
vacances depuis des années tsunami ou pas tsunami ! J'ai passé
45 jours à KPP l'Hiver dernier et j'y reviendrai pour un mois
encore en Décembre 2006 ! A KPP il y a toutes sortes d'activités
comme la Plongée Sous-Marine, les ballades en mer, l'escalade et
saut des falaises, etc, On ne s'ennuie pas à KPP le jour ou le soir !
Peut-être parce ce que tu n'y trouves pas ce que tu recherches
sur l'Ile ? Alors, il faut donc repartir sur une autre Ile de la région
de PHUKET, KRABI, PHANG NHA très vite ! Tu en trouveras des
centaines ! Bonnes vacances quand même !--
des falaises
Bien parler Nnthanh et dire que beaucoup de monde rêve de venir à Koh-Phi-Phi c'est magique là .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Faire 10'000 km pour parler français et boire du ricard...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Ben VI mais il s'ennuie, alors un bon ricard cela remonte le moral, moi j'ai adore Koh Phi Phi, je me suis bien marrer et J'ADORE LA THAILANDE, d'ailleur j'y retourne cette annee.
que la puissance de la jungle soit avec toi
Mon site http://tintina.com
Adorer Koh Phi Phi et adorer la Thailande c'est 2 choses différentes.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Faire 10'000 km pour parler français et boire du ricard...
Dans l'absolu je suis d'accord avec toi mais chacun fait ce qu'il veut de ses vacances. Et tout le monde ne parle pas anglais ou ne voyage pas souvent. Ca rassure alors de retrouver un peu de son mode de vie.
Moi je fuit plutot les étrangers mais par contre rencontrer des gens ouverts et intéressants, pourquoi pas!!! Qu'ils soient francais ou autres...
Mon père est venue avec moi à samui en mai pour deux semaines lui. Bah je lui ai acheté sa bouteille de ricard et de temps en temps je l'amenais dans un bar francais. Il en avait besoin et je n'ai pas à juger du bien fondé de sa démarche.
Dans l'absolu je suis d'accord avec toi mais chacun fait ce qu'il veut de ses vacances. Et tout le monde ne parle pas anglais ou ne voyage pas souvent. Ca rassure alors de retrouver un peu de son mode de vie.
Moi je fuit plutot les étrangers mais par contre rencontrer des gens ouverts et intéressants, pourquoi pas!!! Qu'ils soient francais ou autres...
Mon père est venue avec moi à samui en mai pour deux semaines lui. Bah je lui ai acheté sa bouteille de ricard et de temps en temps je l'amenais dans un bar francais. Il en avait besoin et je n'ai pas à juger du bien fondé de sa démarche.
Je n'est en principe rien contre les iles, je viens d'aller à Koh larn il y 10 jours, mais ce n'est pas un mode de vie très répandu pour les thailandais d'être au bord de mer et même les thais qui habitent dans des villes proches de la mer ne sont pas de grand adeptes de la plage.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
je suis tt a fait ok avec toi Samui, Ce matin Pimilan doit-etre de mauvaise humeur, hihihi.
je me rappel au laos, cela faisait 3 mois de bourlingue et je vois un resto avec charcuterie fromage et vin rouge, ce fut un grand moment de bonheur.
amicalment
que la puissance de la jungle soit avec toi
Mon site http://tintina.com
Je n'est rien contre les gens qui mangent comme à la maison, chacun fait ce qu'il veut...mais de se vanter de le faire...Et de dire que l'on est amoureux du pays...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
PERSONNE ne s est vanté!!
et puis on peu manger maison et adorer un pays!!
encore un adepte de la pensée unique du voyage........
encore un adepte de la pensée unique du voyage........
du sac a dos a l'hotel 5 etoiles!
Je rapelle que Scredonnex se plaint qu'il y a trop d'anglais et qu'il cherche des français, encore heureux qu'il ne se plaigne pas qu'il y est trop de thais ! Je ne suis pas pour la pensée unique du voyage mais je remarque que beaucoup sont d'accord d'aller à l'autre bout du monde pourvu que l'on y parle français et que la nourriture soit comme à la maison...Malheureusement on ne trouve pas des français partout et il faut savoir s'adapter...
Si le paradis existe il ne doit pas être loin de Pattaya et quand on a connu Pattaya on a plus besoin d'aller au paradis...
Si le paradis existe il ne doit pas être loin de Pattaya et quand on a connu Pattaya on a plus besoin d'aller au paradis...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
😎 En 2005, après le grand Tsunami du 26 Décembre 2004, les touristes Français
ont déserté en masses les Iles du Sud de la Thailande du côté de la Mer Andaman.
Les Anglo-Saxons (Australiens, Néo-Zélandais, Britanniques, Canadiens, Américains)
et surtout les Scandinaves (Danois, Norvégiens, Finlandais et Suédois en particulier)
sont retournés en masses pour la saison Hiver 2005/2006 à Noël et au Nouvel An ...
Ils étaient partout sur l'Ile de KOH PHI PHI DON et ils étaient très majoritaires à 80%
à TON SAI le jour et le soir ! Ils fêtaient même le Noël suédois "Santa Lucia" avec un
défilé de JFs avec des chandelles dans les cheveux dans les petites rues de Ton Sai!
J'ai rencontré très peu de Francophones en 45 jours à KPP pendant la période de
Fêtes de Noël 2005 et de Nouvel An 2006 venus passer leurs vacances ! Sauf bien
entendu la très petite et sympathique communauté de Français d'une douzaine de
personne qui vivent à l'année sur KPP-DON ... Ils ont traversé le désastre du Tsunami
du 26/12/2004 - et ont survécu; certains étaient blessés et soignés dans des hôpitaux
pendant plusieurs semaines ! Mais ils sont toujours là à KPP parce que c'est leur village
et ils continuent à y vivre ! Les Anglo-Saxons et les Scandinaves sont retournés sur
KPP en masses - eux qui ont eu plusieurs centaines de victimes et de disparus n'avaient
pas peur de revenir dès Février 2005 pour aider à re-construire l'Ile de KPP ... Avant le
26/12/2004, il y avait beaucoup de Français ... mais il faut reconaître qu'il y a désormais
moins de visiteurs francophones - sauf les quelques dizaines voire une centaine au
maximum qui aiment vraiment cette Ile pour y revenir souvent à un certain moment
et c'est certain qu'ils ne s'ennuient pas là bas car ils savent très bien ce qu'ils trouvent
sur Koh Phi Phi Don parce ce qu'ils y ont des attaches ou de l'affection pour quelque
chose à cet endroit? On verra bien très bientôt pour Noël 2006 quelle sera la prochaine
tendance sur Koh Phi Phi ? En Thailande, il y a plein d'Iles pour tout le monde, alors ?
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Un an et demi après le tsunami, la Thaïlande retrouve ses touristes
Un an et demi après le violent tsunami qui avait dévasté certaines de ses plus belles stations balnéaires, les touristes affluent de nouveau sur les plages de sable fin de la Thaïlande. "En général, le tourisme a rebondi depuis octobre dans les provinces touchées par le tsunami. Les vacanciers sont de retour, non seulement en provenance d'Europe, mais également d'Asie" : Suwalai Pinpradab, directrice régionale des Autorités touristiques de la Thaïlande (TAT), prévoit que le nombre de touristes dans le pays reviendra cette année à ses niveaux d'avant-tsunami. Le raz-de-marée le 26 décembre 2004 avait tué 5.400 personnes en Thaïlande, dont la moitié de touristes étrangers. Sur l'ensemble du littoral de l'océan Indien, environ 220.000 personnes avaient trouvé la mort. Les plus beaux joyaux touristiques du Sud du pays avaient été dévastés, en particulier une bonne partie de l'île de Phuket. Mais depuis, les arrivées de touristes sur cet îlot ont bondi de 275% au premier trimestre de cette année, par rapport à la même période de l'an dernier, à 640.300 personnes, selon les TAT. Le premier trimestre couvre une partie de la haute saison touristique en Thaïlande, qui va de novembre à mars. Cette résurrection a suscité un boom du bâtiment, non seulement pour reconstruire ce qui a été détruit mais également pour accroître le nombre de lits dans l'espoir d'une expansion du tourisme. À Khao Lak, autre station balnéaire durement touchée, l'association touristique s'attend à la construction d'ici la fin de l'année de 5 milliers de chambres d'hôtel. Ce nombre pourrait doubler l'an prochain, portant le nombre de chambres d'hôtel bien au-delà des 6.500 qui étaient disponibles dans cette station avant le tsunami. "Les touristes occidentaux, en particulier les Allemands, les Suédois et les Suisses, reviennent à Khao Lak. Les arrivées se situent dorénavant à environ 60% de ce qu'elles étaient avant le tsunami", précise Praprut Khorpetch, directeur général du Khao Lak Laguna Resort. "En plus des propriétés qui ont été détruites par le tsunami, des nouveaux arrivants construisent des hôtels" qui n'existaient pas avant, ajoute-t-il. Le Khao Lak Laguna (115 chambres) n'était plus que ruines après le passage de la vague meurtrière, qui avait tué 6 membres du personnel et 20 touristes étrangers. Mais tout a été reconstruit et 35 chambres ont même été ajoutées, en partie grâce à des incitations fiscales et autres avantages accordés par les autorités aux trente hôtels de la région. Le Sofitel Magic Lagoon Resort, qui était un des fleurons du groupe français Accor, n'a quant à lui toujours pas redémarré la construction. Celle-ci ne doit commencer qu'en août. Deux cent quatorze personnes sont mortes dans l'hôtel de 319 chambres. Les inquiétudes d'un nouveau tsunami se sont apaisées, assure Navarat Ratwiwattanapong, qui prend les réservations au Nakamanda Resort de Krabi, autre station dévastée. "On a affiché presque complet au premier trimestre et on a reçu des réservations pour la haute saison" à venir, ajoute-t-elle. Exception à l'image de résurrection que donnent les autres sites, l'île de Phi Phi lutte toujours pour retrouver sa gloire d'antan. Sur l'ensemble de la province de Krabi, dont fait partie Phi Phi, les arrivées touristiques étaient en hausse de 130% au premier trimestre, soit largement moins qu'ailleurs. C'est que le nombre des touristes thaïlandais a continué à reculer sur la même période, apparemment en raison des craintes que les lieux, où sont mortes plus de 700 personnes, soient hantés
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Je confirme, Ed est un ami (je le connais car il est rester 23 ans dans ma ville - Reims pour ne pas la nommer - et cela fais presqu'autant que je le connais) et sa guest house est super "Phi Phi Dream", eu pied du View Point. Son amie Nathalie tiens une mini agence de tour operator près de la petite place où il y a les espadons en statue. Vas-y, accueil sympa et on y parle le français...
Qui donne ne doit jamais s'en souvenir.
Qui reçoit ne doit jamais oublier.
http://www.east-asian-road.com
http://www.east-asian-road.com
Comme koi le monde n'est pas si grand que cela. C'est trop fort.
amicalment
corinne alias tintina
que la puissance de la jungle soit avec toi
Mon site http://tintina.com
😏 Bonjour Marc. C'est intéressant ton article du Courrier du Vietnam qui donne les chiffres sur le Tourisme en Thailande après le grand Tsunami du 26/12/2004 ... Les gens du TAT sont très sensibles à l'image donnée à la Thailande suite à cette castastrophe ... ils arrivent même à réduire le nombre
de victimes des 9.700 (chiffre officiel donné après le grand Tsunami à seulement 5.400 !) Quant aux disparus, il n'y en avait pas du tout! Lors de la 1ère Cérémonie du Souvenir du 26/12/2004 à Koh Phi Phi en Décembre dernier ils ont mis sur un grand panneau d'affichage de 4x3m qu'il n'y avait que 276 morts sur l'Ile ! Ce qui a déclenché la colère des parents des victimes ... Ils savent bien manipuler les chiffres pour donner
une meilleure image au lieu de dire la vérité sur le désastre !
Et ils ne disent pas non plus pourquoi plus d'un an et demi après, la vraie re-construction de Koh Phi Phi n'a pas encore commencé ? Quelle est donc la raison de ce blocage voulu ?
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Je reviens de Koh Phi Phi ou j'ai passe 4jours/ 3 nuits : pas plus car c'est 2 a 3 fois plus cher que partout. J'avais lu ton post avant de partir et maintenant que j'en reviens, je dois dire que autant le lieu est tres beau autant j'ai deteste l'ambiance ghetto a touristes. Des mecs et des nanas bourres toute la nuit qui hurlent dans les ruelles et qui le jour bouffent de la pizza dans un bar en regardant un film a la tele!!! Certaines mauvaises langues diront que je suis peut-etre trop vieille pour le lieu...mais meme a 20ans, je n'etais pas ce genre de touriste.Nous sommes restes a Ton Sai ou on a paye 1600 bath pour avoir une chambre correcte. Je rajoute que je voyage avec un gamin de 3 ans et que seule j'aurais peut-etre accepte de dormir dans une chambre sans fenetre pour 900 baths.Nous avons fait le fameux tour en bateau ( 600bath chacun) resultat nous n'avons meme pas vu la fameuse plage Maya ( celle de the beach) et nous n'avons meme pas fait le tour complet de l'ile.Du haut du bateau, les touristes jettent leurs megots et meme pour certains leurs cannettes. Berk!!
Voila, dans un voyage, il faut toujours une deception. La mienne s'appelle Koh Phi Phi. Nous voila revenus a Ao Nang, ici les gens sont adorables et la vie n'est pas cher.
Isa
Isa
Je ne comprends pas pq tu n'as pas fait maya, c'est l'endroit immanquable, the plage, un endroit merveilleux, désolé de deçevoir certains mais rien que pour ce joyaux, je ne peux pas laisser cette ile se faire cantonner dans un role qu'elle ne tiens pas.
Maya n'est qu'une partie des merveilles naturelles dont regorgent cette ile
bon vent,
chris
Maya n'est qu'une partie des merveilles naturelles dont regorgent cette ile
bon vent,
chris
Dommage de voir ce que Phi phi est devenu... 😕
Pour moi, cette ile restera un souvenir fabuleux, il y a 17 ans, un bungalow en bambou pour une poignée de bath, un bidon percé en guise de douche... 🙂
Phil
Voyages du bout de mon pinceau...
mais moi non plus je ne comprends pas que nous ne l'ayons pas fait!!! Ce n'est pas moi qui ait decide mais le type qui organisait le tour. Je voulais montrer justement l'arnaque du tour puisqu'on nous disait qu'on allait y ller et finalement non...
Isa
KOH PHI PHI est une déception pour toi ! ... Tu as raison !... je pense que KPP n'est pas
pour toi ? Tu n'es même pas allée voir la belle Plage AO MAYA sur KKP-LAE . Dommage !
Tu devrais demander et insister auprès du guide à qui t'as payé pour l'excursion ou bien
de lui demander de te rembourser ! ... Je connais des Français qui habitent en ce moment
toute l'année et depuis des année à KPP-DON après avoir survécu du grand Tsunami du
26/12/2004 ... Des Français qui reviennent chaque été pour 5 ou 6 semaines passer leurs
vacances au Village de Ton Sai ... J'ai passé 45 jours à KPP l'Hiver dernier et je reviendrai
encore cet Hiver 2006 pour tout un mois ! KOH PHI PHI est pour tous ceux qui l'aiment
avec passion ! Je pense qu'il y déjà trop de touristes là bas pour qu'ils y viennent encore
par curiosité ! Sur la Côte Thailandaise de la Mer Andaman, il y a des centaines d'autres
Iles pour aller passer leurs vacances ! Moins de monde sur KPP aidera l'Ile à retrouver vite
son aspect d'antan avant le Tsunami . C'est très probable qu'une grande partie de la Plage
Nord Ao Loh Dalum redeviendrait Parc National Maritime comme elle était d'origine avec
moins de resorts, de bugalows et de touristes curieux ? Espérons que ce jour viendrait très
rapidement ! Je te conseille d'aller vers le Sud, sur les Iles du genre de KOH LIPE, etc, ...
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Same same, il y a 17 ans seulement quelques bungalows et aucun bars bruyant, avec tout ce qu'il y maintenant Phi phi n'est pas près de me revoir, Koh larn en face de Pattaya est plus calme...C'est un comble...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
moi aussi j'ai eu droit lors de l'arrivée a leur foutaise de tour en bateau avec celui qui nous avait ammené de phuket et franchement c'etait assez decevant. Moi et ma femme n'avons pas eu envie d'en rester la, nous nous sommes donné la peine d'échanger avec des habitants qui eux nous on reelement fait visiter l'ile en longboat et la franchement rien a voir. En résumé, je pense qu'il faut se bouger un peu quand on veut découvrir sinon c'est pas la peine de venir dans des endroits paradisiaques.
chris
chris
Bonjour!!
J'étais a Phi Phi au mois de juin et j'ai moi aussi pris l'excursion autour de Phi Phi, nous aussi ils nous disaient qu'ils faisaient le tour complet des iles phi phi incluant Bamboo island et maya beach. Nous ne sommes finalement pas arrêté a Bamboo island, ils nous a débarqué a plusieurs metres de l'ile pour du snorkeling. La meme chose s'est reproduit a Maya beach, sauf que là j'ai parlé... ils nous a dit qu'à cause que c'est des national park il faut déboursé 200 baths de plus (Ce qui évidemment ne nous avait pas été dit au début de l'excursion) Finalement tout le monde de l'excursion était d'accord à payer le fameux 200 baths de plus alors nous avons pu aller voir la plage!! Bref je suis resté un peu décu de ces petites arnaques!
Mais je garde quand meme un fabuleux souvenir de koh phi phi😎
J'étais a Phi Phi au mois de juin et j'ai moi aussi pris l'excursion autour de Phi Phi, nous aussi ils nous disaient qu'ils faisaient le tour complet des iles phi phi incluant Bamboo island et maya beach. Nous ne sommes finalement pas arrêté a Bamboo island, ils nous a débarqué a plusieurs metres de l'ile pour du snorkeling. La meme chose s'est reproduit a Maya beach, sauf que là j'ai parlé... ils nous a dit qu'à cause que c'est des national park il faut déboursé 200 baths de plus (Ce qui évidemment ne nous avait pas été dit au début de l'excursion) Finalement tout le monde de l'excursion était d'accord à payer le fameux 200 baths de plus alors nous avons pu aller voir la plage!! Bref je suis resté un peu décu de ces petites arnaques!
Mais je garde quand meme un fabuleux souvenir de koh phi phi😎
val
Bonsoir,
Bah! KPP perso j'en garde un trés bon souvenir et si je pouvais me téléporter maintenant... C'est ça la thailande, des ambiances multiples, KPP est plus touristique mais si tu sais pas quoi faire, tu n'as qu'à plonger la tête dans l'eau (même où tu as pied!) pour voir un magnifique ballet de poissons. Aprés j'ai enchainé sur Koh Lanta. Ah, c'est clair c'est pas la même ambiance et c'est génial... Différemment... La jungle, des bungalow isolés, une plongée moins facile. Enfin bon, j'aimerais bien m'emmerder à KPP moi!lol
Bah! KPP perso j'en garde un trés bon souvenir et si je pouvais me téléporter maintenant... C'est ça la thailande, des ambiances multiples, KPP est plus touristique mais si tu sais pas quoi faire, tu n'as qu'à plonger la tête dans l'eau (même où tu as pied!) pour voir un magnifique ballet de poissons. Aprés j'ai enchainé sur Koh Lanta. Ah, c'est clair c'est pas la même ambiance et c'est génial... Différemment... La jungle, des bungalow isolés, une plongée moins facile. Enfin bon, j'aimerais bien m'emmerder à KPP moi!lol
Ouais! Tu me remets les pendules a l'heure: je me plains mais j'ai la chance d'y etre neanmoins allee....Je pense que la saison y est pour beaucoup : juillet / aout :nous voyageons avec tous les etudiants du monde entier ( attention je n'ai rien contre les etudiants, je le suis restee suffisament longtemps moi-meme) et nous n'avons pas les memes facons de passer nos journees.
A part ca, je reconnais que le snorkelling etait genial. De toute facon, je me connais, je rale d'autant plus que je suis decue.J'en avais tellement entendu parler... Je sais qu'en rentrant en France, ;mes critiques se seront tassees. Et d'ici que j'oublie les cotes negatifs et que je dise que c'etait GENIAL... il y a pas loin!!
Amicalement 😉
Isa
on a réussi, on a réussi, ca y est elle a changé d'avis😏😏😏
tchao
chris
tchao
chris
Salut a tous.
Nous revenons de 3 semaines de voyages a travers la Thailande, depuis l'Est de l'Issan et le Mékong jusqu'a Phuket et ses iles. Je raconterais tout ça en temps et en heure mais en voyant ce topic je nepeux m'empécher de la ramener.
Sans hésitations ni la moindre chance que nous changions d'avis, ce que nous avons le plus détesté( et je pèse mes mots ) lors de ce voyage fut Kho Phi Phi, bien sur pas a cause de l'ile mais à cause des gens qui y vont, des farangs bien sur.
Je sais que beaucoup ici l'idolâtre alors je vais rester soft pour ne pas déclencher une guerre ( et c'est dur de rester soft tellement j'en ai sur le coeur) et dire gentiment que je dois avoir 20 ans de trop pour aprécier le " background " de l'ile ( j'ai 40 ans).
Au fait vous saviez qu'il ya avait des " défonce-party", sorry des " moon - party" sur l'ile ? Et même des Half moon party ? Merci le Hippy bar ! Et pas la peine de tenter de prendre une piaule à + de 3000bath dans un resort à l'extrèmité Est de l'ile pour avor la paix, ça m'empéchera pas que peu après minuit vous serez reveillé par le doux BOUM-BOUM de la délicate musique techno qui vous tiendra éveillé pdt de lonnnnnnnngues heures ...
Il faut aussi avoir vu les loques humaines déchirés qui errent sur la plage le matin suivant la foutue " half moon party" pour comprendre. ( Au fait, en 3 semaine la seule fois ou je me suis senti en danger fut ce matin là avec les anglo saxons, saxons et viking défoncés, pour moi la VRAIE INSECURITE de la Thailande est là )
Ah, nous avons été à Maya Bay, ( evidement comme je prépare mes voyage je savais que pour y mettre un pied il faudrait payer 200B/pers. puisque c'est classé parc national puisque tout les farangs veulent y descendre) donc nous sommes gentiment resté dans le bateau, de toutes façon, ce n'est qu'un plage entouré de 2 pithon rocheux, rien d'extraordinaire, la baie de l'autre coté est bien plus jolie ... Le tout est d'arriver à oublier les speed boat qui arrivent plein gaz pour deverser leurs cargaison de plongeurs ...
Allez stop là, je pourrais en faire des pages tellement nous fûmes décus...
Phi Phi ? Plus jamais !
Sans hésitations ni la moindre chance que nous changions d'avis, ce que nous avons le plus détesté( et je pèse mes mots ) lors de ce voyage fut Kho Phi Phi, bien sur pas a cause de l'ile mais à cause des gens qui y vont, des farangs bien sur.
Je sais que beaucoup ici l'idolâtre alors je vais rester soft pour ne pas déclencher une guerre ( et c'est dur de rester soft tellement j'en ai sur le coeur) et dire gentiment que je dois avoir 20 ans de trop pour aprécier le " background " de l'ile ( j'ai 40 ans).
Au fait vous saviez qu'il ya avait des " défonce-party", sorry des " moon - party" sur l'ile ? Et même des Half moon party ? Merci le Hippy bar ! Et pas la peine de tenter de prendre une piaule à + de 3000bath dans un resort à l'extrèmité Est de l'ile pour avor la paix, ça m'empéchera pas que peu après minuit vous serez reveillé par le doux BOUM-BOUM de la délicate musique techno qui vous tiendra éveillé pdt de lonnnnnnnngues heures ...
Il faut aussi avoir vu les loques humaines déchirés qui errent sur la plage le matin suivant la foutue " half moon party" pour comprendre. ( Au fait, en 3 semaine la seule fois ou je me suis senti en danger fut ce matin là avec les anglo saxons, saxons et viking défoncés, pour moi la VRAIE INSECURITE de la Thailande est là )
Ah, nous avons été à Maya Bay, ( evidement comme je prépare mes voyage je savais que pour y mettre un pied il faudrait payer 200B/pers. puisque c'est classé parc national puisque tout les farangs veulent y descendre) donc nous sommes gentiment resté dans le bateau, de toutes façon, ce n'est qu'un plage entouré de 2 pithon rocheux, rien d'extraordinaire, la baie de l'autre coté est bien plus jolie ... Le tout est d'arriver à oublier les speed boat qui arrivent plein gaz pour deverser leurs cargaison de plongeurs ...
Allez stop là, je pourrais en faire des pages tellement nous fûmes décus...
Phi Phi ? Plus jamais !
Patrick.
Salut,
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi Djorb.
Moi non plus je ne voulais pas la ramener mais il faut aussi que je mette mon grain de sel.
Nous aussi revenons d'un périple de presqu'un mois à travers la Thaïlande (notamment le centre, l'Isan et le Mékong le long de la frontière avec le Laos et enfin pour terminer Phuket et ses îles ...).
Nous sommes rentrés il y a une semaine et fin juillet donc, nous étions sur Phuket. Nous sommes allés une journée sur Koh Phi Phi, d'une part pour faire du snorkeling et d'autre part, pour y voir si un hôtel nous plaisait car nous avions bien l'intention de loger sur Phi Phi l'année prochaine. Après le snorkeling, nous avons déjeuné et nous sommes promenés pendant 2 heures dans Tongsaï, avons visité quelques hôtels mais avons tout à fait abandonné l'idée de loger sur Phi Phi. On se croirait à Kao San Road et franchement c'est pas du tout l'ambiance (thaïe) que nous recherchons ... Tout comme à KSR, les thais qui sont là-bas ne sont pas du tout les mêmes qu'ailleurs en Thaïlande, sans parler des farangs ... De l'autre côté de Tongsai, côté plage, ce ne sont que des gens qui "cuvent leur vin/bière" et essayent de se remettre de leur soirée trop arrosée de la veille afin d'être en forme pour le soir, beau spectacle... sans parler des jets-skis et autres parachutes ascensionnels ... Non franchement, je n'aime pas (plus) du tout Koh Phi Phi ! Certains diront que j'ai passé l'âge et que c'est pour cela que je critique mais dans ce cas, cela ne sert à rien d'aller aussi loin pour passer ses vacances comme cela !!!
@+, Sabaïdee
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi Djorb.
Moi non plus je ne voulais pas la ramener mais il faut aussi que je mette mon grain de sel.
Nous aussi revenons d'un périple de presqu'un mois à travers la Thaïlande (notamment le centre, l'Isan et le Mékong le long de la frontière avec le Laos et enfin pour terminer Phuket et ses îles ...).
Nous sommes rentrés il y a une semaine et fin juillet donc, nous étions sur Phuket. Nous sommes allés une journée sur Koh Phi Phi, d'une part pour faire du snorkeling et d'autre part, pour y voir si un hôtel nous plaisait car nous avions bien l'intention de loger sur Phi Phi l'année prochaine. Après le snorkeling, nous avons déjeuné et nous sommes promenés pendant 2 heures dans Tongsaï, avons visité quelques hôtels mais avons tout à fait abandonné l'idée de loger sur Phi Phi. On se croirait à Kao San Road et franchement c'est pas du tout l'ambiance (thaïe) que nous recherchons ... Tout comme à KSR, les thais qui sont là-bas ne sont pas du tout les mêmes qu'ailleurs en Thaïlande, sans parler des farangs ... De l'autre côté de Tongsai, côté plage, ce ne sont que des gens qui "cuvent leur vin/bière" et essayent de se remettre de leur soirée trop arrosée de la veille afin d'être en forme pour le soir, beau spectacle... sans parler des jets-skis et autres parachutes ascensionnels ... Non franchement, je n'aime pas (plus) du tout Koh Phi Phi ! Certains diront que j'ai passé l'âge et que c'est pour cela que je critique mais dans ce cas, cela ne sert à rien d'aller aussi loin pour passer ses vacances comme cela !!!
@+, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
En fait, j'ai l'impression que tous les lieux balnéaires de Thailande sont en train de se Kho Phangan"iser " ...
Patrick.
Là t'exagères ...
Sincèrement, non, pas tout !
@+, Sabaïdee
Sincèrement, non, pas tout !
@+, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Mouais je veux bien que ce soit trop large alors je reformule :
" J'ai l'impression que tous les endroits ou les occidentaux se rendent en masse et leurs environs proche sont en train de devenir un gros b****l "
Il est vrai que sur Phuket, en logeant sur la baie de Chalong ( cote Est) on à reussi a avoir un resort splendide et calme mais qui a beaucoup de mal à se vendre auprès des touriste car on ne peut s'y baigner.
Si je dis ça c'est parce qu'a Krabi malgré le fait qu'on ai logé coté Noppharathara pour eviter Ao Nang, ce fut un gros b****l toute la nuit aussi a cause des bars paillotte en face, le long de la plage .
Donc deception aussi ( c'était avant Phi Phi, probablement pour nous préparer !)
" J'ai l'impression que tous les endroits ou les occidentaux se rendent en masse et leurs environs proche sont en train de devenir un gros b****l "
Il est vrai que sur Phuket, en logeant sur la baie de Chalong ( cote Est) on à reussi a avoir un resort splendide et calme mais qui a beaucoup de mal à se vendre auprès des touriste car on ne peut s'y baigner.
Si je dis ça c'est parce qu'a Krabi malgré le fait qu'on ai logé coté Noppharathara pour eviter Ao Nang, ce fut un gros b****l toute la nuit aussi a cause des bars paillotte en face, le long de la plage .
Donc deception aussi ( c'était avant Phi Phi, probablement pour nous préparer !)
Patrick.
En fait LE problème n'est pas tant que ce soit un gros b****l à MON gout, certains trouveront Phi Phi, Ao Nang et Patong géniaux et grand bien leur fasse, le truc qui me gêne c'est de laisser penser que ' ça " se borne a quelques point limités et qu'il est possible de l'éviter.
C'est plutot vrai dans tout le reste du pays, mais sur la côte j'ai trouvé très dur, voire souvent impossible d'éviter les nuissance induite par le tourisme de masse.
J'en tire donc les conséquences que je n'irais plus dans les lieux balnéaires puisqu'il n'est pas possible d'y trouver ce que JE cherche. (beauté et sérénité)
(Soupirs ... j'étais bien à Khong Chiam !! 😉 😉 )
C'est plutot vrai dans tout le reste du pays, mais sur la côte j'ai trouvé très dur, voire souvent impossible d'éviter les nuissance induite par le tourisme de masse.
J'en tire donc les conséquences que je n'irais plus dans les lieux balnéaires puisqu'il n'est pas possible d'y trouver ce que JE cherche. (beauté et sérénité)
(Soupirs ... j'étais bien à Khong Chiam !! 😉 😉 )
Patrick.
bonjour a tous
d'abord merci pour vos reponse 🙂
bon je mexplique j'ai fait toutes les excursion et j'ai meme louer un speed boat pour allez a ko lanta afin de pas passer par krabi j'ai fait le tour le phi phi ley avec maya bay ainsi les soit disant national park ou il fallait payer 200 bath et que nous n'avons pas payer parce qu on avait pas dit
en faite l'ile en elle meme elle déchire ce que je voulais dire c'est que c plus un truc pour allez avec sa femme et pas des pote c tous puis lautre truc c'est que les gens qui si y trouvais il etais pas tres sociable ( anglo saxon)
d'abord merci pour vos reponse 🙂
bon je mexplique j'ai fait toutes les excursion et j'ai meme louer un speed boat pour allez a ko lanta afin de pas passer par krabi j'ai fait le tour le phi phi ley avec maya bay ainsi les soit disant national park ou il fallait payer 200 bath et que nous n'avons pas payer parce qu on avait pas dit
en faite l'ile en elle meme elle déchire ce que je voulais dire c'est que c plus un truc pour allez avec sa femme et pas des pote c tous puis lautre truc c'est que les gens qui si y trouvais il etais pas tres sociable ( anglo saxon)
si apprendre coûte trop chère essayez l'ignorance
Pour répondre à Messieurs Sabaidee et Djorb, c'est normal de détester Kho Phi Phi de fin mai à Fin septembre. Mais il y a d'autres saisons où l'on peut apprécier cette île sans rencontrer ces accros de 'l"herbe de provence" et ces paumés qui se donnent rendez-vous ici, surtout à la suite du film avec DiCaprio. Et là je ne vous rejoins pas du tout. Car on peut vraiment visiter cette île sans trop croiser cette "faune" de farangs. Car moi, et certains forumeurs s'en sont sûrement rendu compte, je déteste le quartier de KSR et tout ce qui s'y rapproche ou y ressemble. Alors..... Non cette île est magnifique si on sait choisir sa période pour s'y rendre.
Qui donne ne doit jamais s'en souvenir.
Qui reçoit ne doit jamais oublier.
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Euh.....je voudrais pas dire mais tu as vu la taille de Ton Sai?? Il faudra m'expliquer comment on arrive a y eviter ceux qui viennent pour la picole, la tele et la pizza 😛?? Moi en 4 jours, je n'ai pas reussi et meme effectivement ren prenant le petit dej a 7.00( j'etais tombe du lit!!) car effectivement ils etaient en train de cuver a 50 m sur la plage!!
Par contre je ne compare pas a KSR ou j'ai sejourne plusieurs fois. Je ne trouve pas que ce soit la meme "faune".
Quand a choisir sa periode de vacances, j'aimerais bien mais on me l'impose😕. Ceci dit ayant 2 mois, je ne vais pas trop la ramener ou certains vont encore dire que deja qu'on ( Nous les Profs) fout rien😛😛😛....alors....
Bon allez, moi je continue ma glandouille a Ao Nang ou decidement je me sens bien.
Cherioh a tutti.😎
Isa
Bonjour Yokyak,
Tout d'abord, je ne déteste pas Koh Phi Phi mais c'est certain je n'y logerai pas. J'y retournerai certainement mais sans débarquer, uniquement pour faire du snorkeling au large de ses côtes.
Quant à la période à laquelle j'y suis allée, comme d'autres hélas, je n'ai pas le choix et je ne peux prendre que la plus grande partie de mes congés qu'en juillet. Il y a une dizaine d'années, c'était tout autre et je pouvais prendre 3 semaines en février et c'est à l'occasion de vacances prises en cette période que nous avions découvert Koh Phi Phi ... que nous avions bien aimée !
Quant à comparer Koh Phi Phi et plus particulièrement Tongsai à KSR, peut-être ai-je exagéré ... peut-être y a-t-il de chouettes coins du côté de Banglamphu mais pour moi, la rue principale de KSR et Tongsai, c'est du pareil au même, sauf qu'il n'y a pas la plage ...
De toutes façons, quoi qu'il en soit, il en faut pour tous les goûts et couleurs et je n'essayerai jamais de convaincre quelqu'un de ne pas aller à Koh Phi Phi, je préfère qu'il se fasse son opinion par lui-même.
@+ (et sans rancune) 😉 Sabaïdee
Tout d'abord, je ne déteste pas Koh Phi Phi mais c'est certain je n'y logerai pas. J'y retournerai certainement mais sans débarquer, uniquement pour faire du snorkeling au large de ses côtes.
Quant à la période à laquelle j'y suis allée, comme d'autres hélas, je n'ai pas le choix et je ne peux prendre que la plus grande partie de mes congés qu'en juillet. Il y a une dizaine d'années, c'était tout autre et je pouvais prendre 3 semaines en février et c'est à l'occasion de vacances prises en cette période que nous avions découvert Koh Phi Phi ... que nous avions bien aimée !
Quant à comparer Koh Phi Phi et plus particulièrement Tongsai à KSR, peut-être ai-je exagéré ... peut-être y a-t-il de chouettes coins du côté de Banglamphu mais pour moi, la rue principale de KSR et Tongsai, c'est du pareil au même, sauf qu'il n'y a pas la plage ...
De toutes façons, quoi qu'il en soit, il en faut pour tous les goûts et couleurs et je n'essayerai jamais de convaincre quelqu'un de ne pas aller à Koh Phi Phi, je préfère qu'il se fasse son opinion par lui-même.
@+ (et sans rancune) 😉 Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
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Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
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Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
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Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂






