Vivre à Madagascar
by Transmark
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'habite a l'Ile Maurice, j'ai demenagé depuis l'angleterre il y a 3 ans avec un container 20 pieds, le container a pris 3 mois pour arriver, c'etait la galere pour faire les formalités de douane a Maurice, cela a pris une journée dans la fournaise du port ( Port Louis) a graisser la pate a differentes personnes pour faire avancer les choses ( nous avions pourtant deja payer pour une service porte a porte en Angleterre) mais il n'y avait pas de casse ni de vol au moins, nous avons eviter de devoir vider chaque boite sur le port in extremis, sinon cela aurait pris deux jours et ils nous auraient fait payer pour la nuit que le container passe sur le port en plus. Maintenant on me propose un contrat expat a Mada donc un demenagement en vue, cela ne prend que 48 heures pour un container mais je m'inquiete a propos des formalités a l'arrivée a Tamatave, est ce qu'il y a a beaucoup de corruption a la douane? Est ce qu'il faut aussi graisser la pate aux douaniers et passer la journée a courir a droite a gauche pour les formalités? si vous etes passé par la je vous remercie de partager votre experience...je m'inquiete car une des compagnie de demenagement refuse d'inclure une assurance contre vol et degat des affaires sur Mada, ils veulent juste assurer le container contre la perte totale...
merci!!!
fred
comme dans bcp de pays africains, la corruption existe, elle est omniprésente à mada, celà à cause des faibles salaires, les retards de salaires, et le petit pouvoir donne des ailes à certains
faire-faire un papier au tribunal: faut payer en dessous
faire sortir un container: faut payer en dessous
passer un barrage de police: faut payer en dessous
faire-faire un document administratif: faut payer en dessous
passer la douane: le douanier demande ouvertement un cadeau
c'est de cette réalité difficile dont je parle dans mon reply à ton autre post il faut savoir qu'a chaque entrée et sortie de ville il y a un barrage (entrée par exemple les militaires, sortie, la police), et chacun te demande qq chose alors que tu viens juste de donner à 500 métres avant
un ami a fait le calcul sur la N7 partant de tana jusqu'a toliary (sud de mada) il s'est fait controler presque 30 fois et a du débourser 40 euros au total pour être tranquille, 40 euros ça parait rien mais mis bout à bout dans un budget ça ennerve
mais ce pays on l'aime malgrés tout, mais pour plein d'autres choses
c'est de cette réalité difficile dont je parle dans mon reply à ton autre post il faut savoir qu'a chaque entrée et sortie de ville il y a un barrage (entrée par exemple les militaires, sortie, la police), et chacun te demande qq chose alors que tu viens juste de donner à 500 métres avant
un ami a fait le calcul sur la N7 partant de tana jusqu'a toliary (sud de mada) il s'est fait controler presque 30 fois et a du débourser 40 euros au total pour être tranquille, 40 euros ça parait rien mais mis bout à bout dans un budget ça ennerve
mais ce pays on l'aime malgrés tout, mais pour plein d'autres choses
merci pour les infos kamiko, je vois que je dois m'attendre a bien pire que maurice de ce coté la, meme en tanzanie et senegal c'etait pas comme cela, j'ai jamais eu a donner un bakshish ( au maroc, oui) d'ailleur je me tracasse pas trop de payer si c'est la coutume locale, il faut bien faire avec, du moment que ma femme et moi ne courons pas de risque aux mains des autorités comme dans certains pays ( j'ai passé une nuit en prison au Maroc sans l'avoir merité et j'ai pas envie de renouveller cette experience) j'ai des objets de valeurs sentimentales que je promene avec moi au gré des demenagements et j'espere ne pas les perdres en allant a Mada cette fois, surtout si les assurances refusent de m'assurer...est ce que tu pense que les autorités ( la police) est abusive a mada? j'ai entendu qu'ils sont armés jusqu'au dents, est ce qu'ils t'arretent si tu n'as pas tes papiers? est ce que tu as entendu des histoires de violence policiere la bas? je me demandais un peu si il y a de la rancoeur envers les francais et les expats la bas pour une raison ou une autre? a Maurice faut faire gaffe en cas d'accident de la route seulement, le voisinage a pour habitude de bruler le vehicule en cause et de lyncher ou malmener le conducteur si il est en faute ( touche du bois), la consigne est de laisser la victime sur la route et d'aller se rendre le plus vite possible au poste de police le plus proche! a plus, merci encore pour tes infos qui me renseignent sur l'atmosphere du pays...
est ce que tu pense que les autorités ( la police) est abusive a mada?
je vais te raconter une anecdote qui m'est arrivé l'an dernier avant toute chose je suis fils de zanatany et marrié à une franco-malgache, je suis comme je te l'ai dit amoureux du pays et des gens authentiques que je cotoye que en brousse (là ou travaille moa belle famille)
j'étais en train de faire de l'humanitaire avec la croix rouge en aout dernier (distribution de savon dans les villages de la région de fianarantsoa), quand au retour la nuit vers 21h nous voyons 2 gilets réfléchissants au milieu de la route et surtout à 20 kilométres de tout village, plus nous avancions, plus nous nous sommes rendus comptes que c'était des policiers (à mada, police= kalachnikov), ils nous ralentissent et nous ordonnent de les emmener au prochain village, nous refusons (réglement croix rouge internationale, pas de transport d'hommes armés), là un troisiéme homme arrive par l'arriére du véhicule avec un énorme sac d'herbe de marijuana, OK on a compris ils étaient venus se ravitailler en brousse de drogue et abusaient de leur pouvoir pour se faire transporter, ils nous ont demandé de tous sortir du véhicule, on a refusé, dérriére nous une 404 baché s'est arrété et on leur a demandé de demander aux gens dérriére nous.
On a eu trés trés peur.
je lis tous les jours la presse locale en ligne, la semaine derniére: viol de policier sur une femme, il y a 15 jours racket collectif dans des villages
la réalité de la grande misére sociale, mais si tu restes à tana tu verras moins ces choses là, mais moi tana je n'y vais plus, je vais m'isoler en brousse avec les vrais malgaches qui ne sont pas gangrénés par ces magouilles.
Mais celà reste une expérience.
cordialement Kami
je vais te raconter une anecdote qui m'est arrivé l'an dernier avant toute chose je suis fils de zanatany et marrié à une franco-malgache, je suis comme je te l'ai dit amoureux du pays et des gens authentiques que je cotoye que en brousse (là ou travaille moa belle famille)
j'étais en train de faire de l'humanitaire avec la croix rouge en aout dernier (distribution de savon dans les villages de la région de fianarantsoa), quand au retour la nuit vers 21h nous voyons 2 gilets réfléchissants au milieu de la route et surtout à 20 kilométres de tout village, plus nous avancions, plus nous nous sommes rendus comptes que c'était des policiers (à mada, police= kalachnikov), ils nous ralentissent et nous ordonnent de les emmener au prochain village, nous refusons (réglement croix rouge internationale, pas de transport d'hommes armés), là un troisiéme homme arrive par l'arriére du véhicule avec un énorme sac d'herbe de marijuana, OK on a compris ils étaient venus se ravitailler en brousse de drogue et abusaient de leur pouvoir pour se faire transporter, ils nous ont demandé de tous sortir du véhicule, on a refusé, dérriére nous une 404 baché s'est arrété et on leur a demandé de demander aux gens dérriére nous.
On a eu trés trés peur.
je lis tous les jours la presse locale en ligne, la semaine derniére: viol de policier sur une femme, il y a 15 jours racket collectif dans des villages
la réalité de la grande misére sociale, mais si tu restes à tana tu verras moins ces choses là, mais moi tana je n'y vais plus, je vais m'isoler en brousse avec les vrais malgaches qui ne sont pas gangrénés par ces magouilles.
Mais celà reste une expérience.
cordialement Kami
merci pour ce recit d'aventure, c'est sur que cela n'est pas rassurant, des flic armés qui peuvent agir comme cela dans les endroits isolés sans problemes, c'est pas loin de l'anarchie et je m'inquiete de la direction dans laquelle se dirige ce pays, je plains les malgaches qui doivent se soumettre a ce jenre d'abus...au moins a Maurice la police n'a pas d'arme a part ceux qui gardent les banques, d'ailleur les flics ici ont assez peur de la population, ils viennent rarement quand il y a des bagarres ou du tapage si ils sont pas en superiorité numerique, ici quand il y a un probleme qui concerne la police comme une arrestation injuste c'est assez courant que les gents vont sacagé le poste de police ( celui de grand gaube dans le Nord est un favoris) les flics sont en general hindous a maurice, donc un peu British dans leurs look et attitude, ils sont polis et serviable mais faineants, quand il y a un accident ou un probleme, ils se cachent pour ne pas intervenir, je l'aiu vu une fois en ville, vraiment comique...mais bon, on se sent en securité.
A+
je vois ce que tu veux dire concernant l'ile soeurn en plus il y a des problémes de races indou contre créole, pas toujours marrant
http://www.lequotidien.mg/ http://www.madagascar-tribune.com/ http://www.lagazette-dgi.info/
des liens de quotidiens locaux
une info qui me revient en début d'année 3 députés ont volés 166 containers de toutes sortes, ces députés de la majorité n'ont jamais et ne connaitront jamais la prison ici quand un malgache envoye des voitures vers tamatave il est obligé de demander à sa famille d'attendre le bateau arriver, et ne lache le lache jamais du regard jusqu'au débarquement, ils sont obligés de payer des gens qui surveillent les véhicules, la nuit le temps de faires les papiers de douane, celà tellement il y a eu des vols
ce matin voici une nouvelle qui a été publie, une de plus:
26-07-2006 L’affaire de détournement d’un conteneur, contenant plus de 600 balles de friperies (voir « La Gazette » des 17, 18 et 20 juillet), commence à agiter la haute sphère de l’Etat. En effet, cette affaire, similaire à tant d’autres qui n’ont cessé de défrayer la chronique, a plutôt intrigué plus d’un dans la mesure où, sur une dizaine de personnes impliquées, seule une a été placée sous mandat de dépôt. Une décision judiciaire qui a pour ainsi dire éveillé des soupçons au niveau de la haute sphère de l’Etat. Ceci, eu égard au fait que, profitant des « instructions » émanant des bailleurs de fonds internationaux sur la nécessité d’humaniser dorénavant la détention préventive, certains profitent pour rendre des décisions judiciaires plutôt inadéquates à la gravité des actes pénaux qui ont été perpétrés.
bye Kami
http://www.lequotidien.mg/ http://www.madagascar-tribune.com/ http://www.lagazette-dgi.info/
des liens de quotidiens locaux
une info qui me revient en début d'année 3 députés ont volés 166 containers de toutes sortes, ces députés de la majorité n'ont jamais et ne connaitront jamais la prison ici quand un malgache envoye des voitures vers tamatave il est obligé de demander à sa famille d'attendre le bateau arriver, et ne lache le lache jamais du regard jusqu'au débarquement, ils sont obligés de payer des gens qui surveillent les véhicules, la nuit le temps de faires les papiers de douane, celà tellement il y a eu des vols
ce matin voici une nouvelle qui a été publie, une de plus:
26-07-2006 L’affaire de détournement d’un conteneur, contenant plus de 600 balles de friperies (voir « La Gazette » des 17, 18 et 20 juillet), commence à agiter la haute sphère de l’Etat. En effet, cette affaire, similaire à tant d’autres qui n’ont cessé de défrayer la chronique, a plutôt intrigué plus d’un dans la mesure où, sur une dizaine de personnes impliquées, seule une a été placée sous mandat de dépôt. Une décision judiciaire qui a pour ainsi dire éveillé des soupçons au niveau de la haute sphère de l’Etat. Ceci, eu égard au fait que, profitant des « instructions » émanant des bailleurs de fonds internationaux sur la nécessité d’humaniser dorénavant la détention préventive, certains profitent pour rendre des décisions judiciaires plutôt inadéquates à la gravité des actes pénaux qui ont été perpétrés.
bye Kami
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Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
My partner and I currently live in Antibes—we’re both freelancers working remotely. We’re thinking about potentially moving to Italy.
We’d like to settle near the French border, between Ventimiglia and San Remo (this is important because we need access to Nice Airport twice a month). ✈️
I’d love to hear about life in this region! We’re looking for a quiet spot close to the sea. Any recommendations? As for the paperwork, is it difficult to get everything official? Is finding housing tough in this area? What kind of guarantees are usually required? If any kind soul could shed some light on this, we’d really appreciate it! 🥺🏻
Thanks so much for your help and advice! ☺️
I'm looking for an au pair who'd like to come to Bournemouth in the south of England, and I'd love to know what the best websites are to find one, please.
Hi everyone,
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄






