Nous prévoyons un voyage en Egypte, le Soudan et l'Ethiopie
mais nous avons quelques doutes
Le visa Assouan, combien de temps cela prend-il? un jour, deux jours, trois ...
Le ferry part dimanche ou lundi?
comme je l'ai lu dans un autre forum, il est une nouvelle route entre l'Egypte et le Soudan, est ouvert tous les jours? Ils peuvent traverser la frontière pour elle étrangère? toute autorisation spéciale est requise (ne pas porter voiture ou moto)
Une fois dans le Wadi Halfa. Il ya le transport local à Karima?, Combien de temps cela prend? routes sont bonnes? ou vous pouvez louer une voiture pour vous emmener?
Enfin, Conoceis quelqu'un dans Wadi Halfa confiance pour passer la nuit, ou louer une voiture
Si quelqu'un sait aucune réponse se il vous plaît nous répondre sur ce fil,
Ces pays font aussi partie de mes préoccupations du moment (j' ai une Land Rover depuis 3 ans en Afrique Australe, actuellement au Malawi, monte vers Juin / Juillet jusqu' au Kenya, et Ethiopie Soudan Egypte fait partie de mes options..
Sans vouloir froisser personne, je ne suis pas sur que tu trouves sur VF toutes les infos que tu souhaites...
Comment te déplaces-tu ?
Si tu es angliciste, tu peux consulter avec bonheur les sites suivants:
www.horizonsunlimited.com (site d' origine Américaine, au départ des bikers mais entretemps fréquenté par d' autres usagers..
www.4x4community.co.za (site Sud Africain, il y a entre autres un membre éminent qui prépare avec grand soin un voyage Afrique du Sud / Egypte avec départ en Avril)
Si (mais c'est plus rare) tu es germaniste, tu as des infos très pertinentes et fiables sur:
Jose,
Par quel moyen de transport te déplaces-tu?
De combien de temps disposes-tu pour traverser le Soudan du Nord (le sud, ce n'est pas possible actuellement trop dangereux)?
Que comptes -tu visiter dans ce pays?
Dans le transport local ou louer une voiture
5-6 jours
Avez-vous voyagé récemment il
Il est facile de voyager?
comme ce est la situation au Soudan North, Road Wadi Halfa à Khartoum, est sûr?
Jose, Mon voyage date de 2011 et nous avions pris un tour operateur local. Cela s'est très bien passé. Il y avait pratiquement aucun touriste. (en 2011, il y a eu 2000 touristes au soudan seulement)
5 à 6 jours pour traverser le soudan , c'est très court: tu ne vois rien. Les routes sont bonnes de wadi Halfa à Khartoum en passant par la rive droite du Nil. tu vas jusqu'à dongola et tu traverses le désert jusqu'à Krt, ou tu continues jusqu'à Karima, tu traverses le Nil pour rejoindre Atbara puis Krt.
Je peux t'envoyer en MP les coordonnées d'un TO local natif de Wadi Halfa qui pourra te donner plus d'informations à jour.
il pourra peut-être t'aider dans tes recherches.
Quant à la situation, la police est partout et les routes sont sûres dans le nord. Il est difficile de se déplacer car il faut se présenter aux postes de police de chacune des grandes villes que tu traverses.
S'il n'est pas trop tard pour te répondre, je viens de compléter la traversée Aswan-Wadi Halfa suivi de la frontière Galahabat/Metema fin septembre, début octobre 2016. J'ai même une petite vidéo qui couvre le sujet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4JaNdUz644
1. Le visa soudanais s'obtient facilement à Aswan. La haute commission est ouverte dimanche, lundi, mardi et jeudi. Vendredi et samedi sont les jours de la fin de semaine en Égypte. Lorsque j'y suis passé, le délai de traitement était de 5 jours et le coût 40 USD. Pas besoin d'avoir une "introduction letter", juste mettre que le sponsor au Soudan c'est l'ambassade de ton pays.
2. Le moyen le plus rapide et le moins variable pour se rendre à Wadi Halfa à partir d'Aswan est de prendre la route et le traversier qui relie Abu Simbel à Qustul. Voici les détails du trajet:
- 250 km par la route jusqu'à Abu Simbel
- 1 heure de traversier jusqu'à Qustul
- 45 km jusqu'à la frontière Égypte/Soudan
- 40 km jusqu'à Wadi Halfa
Il y a un convoi militaire à 4h00 AM et 11h00 AM qui part de Aswan vert Abu Simbel. Tous les véhicules, même les autobus, partent avec ce convoi. Il existe des compagnies d'autobus qui font le trajet jusqu'à Wadi Halfa. Il ne suffit que d'aller au terminus d'autobus d'Aswan et de demander des infos.
Le premier traversier quitte à 8h00 Abu Simbel avec les employés de la douane. Le dernier départ doit se faire entre 12h00 et 14h00. Il n'y a pas d'horaire fixe. Le bateau n'est pas très gros et ne permet pas d'accueillir toute la lignée de camions probablement présente. Cependant, les gestionnaires du traversier priorisent d'abord les autobus, ensuite les véhicules personnels et finalement les autobus.
Je n'ai pas pris le bateau qui quitte les dimanches Aswan pour Wadi Halfa.
3. Le visa éthiopien est facile à obtenir à l'ambassade de l'Éthiopie à Khartoum même sans permis de résidence. Cela est une affaire d'une heure ou deux en fonction du nombre de gens. Tout est là s'il manque quelque chose (photocopieuse, photos format passeport etc.).
4. La frontière Galahabat/Metema est poreuse et simple à passer. Du côté soudanais, on retrouve plusieurs lokandas pour dormir. Du côté éthiopien, ce sont plutôt des bars et des hôtels. Les gens de l'endroit circulent beaucoup à pied entre les deux pays (ils vont faire des emplettes d'un côté ou de l'autre de la frontière sans que les douaniers ne bronchent. Impossible d'avoir un visa à l'arrivée par contre d'un côté comme de l'autre pour un passeport européen ou canadien.
Fred,
je viens de regarder ta vidéo: mais qu'as tu vu du soudan? Que du bitume et des locandas. Pourquoi fais tu du vélo? Pour te dégourdir les jambes? je ne suis pas politiquement correct, mais je ne comprends pas ce désir de traverser l'Afrique en circulant sur de grands axes sans s'en écarter. Es-tu actuellement en Ethiopie? quelle est la situation puisque tu passes par des régions qui semblent en proie à des soulèvements de la population contre le gouvernement. Cela peut intéresser des touristes qui envisagent d'aller visiter ce magnifique pays.
cordialement.
Depuis le 9 octobre dernier, le gouvernement éthiopien a déclaré l'état d'urgence. Ce que ça signifie pour les touristes (du moins par rapport à ce que j'ai vécu) c'est que l'internet est bloqué à peu près partout. Certains wifis d'hôtels persistent, mais les réseaux sociaux sont tous bloqués. Le réseau téléphonique (opéré par Ethio Tel) n'offre plus de service de données (les 2G, 3G et 4G sont bloqués eux aussi).
Autrement, côté sécurité, je ne me suis jamais senti en danger. Les couvre-feu ne sont pas respectés (il est théoriquement interdit de se retrouver proche des installations gouvernementales et des sièges d'entreprises après 18h00) et la police ne se méfie pas de ma présence. Le seul incident que j'ai vécu est lorsque la population commence à se regrouper dans le but de manifester contre le gouvernement. Il suffit simplement de s'éloigner de la foule et de ne pas du tout s'en mêler car c'est dans ces situations que la police se met à tirer sur les gens.
Je recommande donc d'aller en Éthiopie malgré la situation politique puisque je ne crois pas que cela affecte l'expérience touristique. J'ai pédalé de Metema jusqu'à Addis Ababa et n'ai toujours pas vécu de situations dangereuses dans les régions d'Amhara et d'Oromia.
Pour ce qui est de ma façon de voyager, j'ai fait le choix de faire du vélo de long des grands axes pour réaliser un exploit sportif. En effet, choisir de pédaler aussi rapidement avec comme objectif le Cap en Afrique du Sud est une décision qui implique énormément de sacrifices. Cependant, c'est une nouvelle façon de voyager que j'expérimente. Je considère ce voyage comme une croisière à travers l'Afrique c'est à dire que je passe à travers des lieux en goûtant un tout petit peu à ce qu'ils ont à m'offrir pour mieux y revenir plus tard.
Fred,
Question quant à la durée du visa soudanais obtenu à Assouan. Je lis ici ou là qu'il ne serait que de 14 jours au lieu de 1 mois pour celui délivré au Caire. Tu confirmes ?
J'ai obtenu un visa de 30 jours entrée unique à Aswan. Une autre personne venue chercher son visa la même journée que moi en a obtenu un de 90 jours multi-entrées après en avoir fait la demande. Donc, j'imagine qu'ils sont en mesure de te fournir le visa qui te convient. Chaque cas semble complètement différent cependant, c'est difficile de généraliser.
Fred,
Merci pour ta réponse. tu as précisé tes choix qui te sont personnels. Descends tu vers le Kenya actuellement? Après la région des lacs le long du rift, tu vas plonger vers le désert dès que tu te rapproches de la frontière. C'est une autre Afrique que tu vas rencontrer. Le nord Kenya ne sera peut-être pas de tout repos.
Bonne continuation.
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.