En juillet, notre petite famille de 5 va descendre pour 4 jours dans le canyon, sans agence et l'itinéraire prévu est le suivant (avec l'aide de beaucoup de discussions ici): Cabanaconde - Llahuar - Fure - Tapay - Cabanaconde.
Si j'ai bien compris, il n'y a pas à s'en faire pour réserver en bas et on trouvera toujours un endroit et des gens sympas pour nous héberger. Mais je pose quand même la question. Dans les 3 places mentionnées, avez-vous dormi dans une auberge ou chez quelqu'un qu'il ne faut pas rater, et si oui pourquoi ? On ne voudrait pas rater ça. Pour info, on ne veut pas de camping et on veut voyager léger.
A Cabanaconde nous sommes restés dans l'auberge «Pachamama». Très bon rapport qualité/prix, propre, vous pouvez y aller sans crainte.
A l'oasis de Sangalle nous avons passé une nuit à «Paraiso Las Palmeras Lodge». Là par-contre je recommande pas du tout. Je vous laisse consulter ma review TripAdvisor pour plus de détails.
Bon, merci à vous 2. Pour le canyon, pas de réponses = j'imagine rien au-dessus du lot.
Pour Pachamama c'est effectivement là qu'on va réserver mais je regrette un peu qu'il faille s'attendre à du bruit à cause du bar/resto... (on est en juillet, période d'affluence).
Sinon a Cabanaconde il y a un grand hostal basique, vraiment pas cher et calme sur la place, j'ai oublie le nom. Fure et Tapay je n'y ai pas dormi, a Fure auberges locales simples, a Tapay pas beaucoup de choix non plus. Les groupes sejournent a San Juan et Sangalle uniquement.
A Llahuar, le logement est correcte et les repas au top, après une bonne journée de marche. C'est pour ma part le petit coin de paradis du canyon. Avec du recul, j'y serais resté une journée de + à profiter pleinement des bains. Autre point intéressant, il est possible de faire des activités "extra-randos" comme la pêche, élaboration de cocktails .... via l'hostal.
Petit point intéressant tout de même .... le sentier qui mène à Fure n'est pas de tout repos . j'ai cru comprendre que vous faisiez la rando avec la famille. Le chemin est bien escarpé, et se dérobe a quelque endroits (attention donc avec les enfants)
De Fure vous pourrez également aller à la cascade, et la, pas de vertige souhaité, car le sentier ressemble à des passages d'Indiana Jones.
Fure ou on se demande comment les bières arrivent à bon port. La haut, l’hébergement est très spartiate, je dirais que ça ressemble plus à des cabanes qu'autre chose, avec une bâche en guise de toit. Les repas sont nourrissants et vous aideront grandement dans la poursuite de votre rando.
Mais il est clair qu'au niveau de ce sens de circulation (Cabanaconde -> Llahuar -> Fure -> Tapay -> Cabanaconde) vous serez tranquille, et ne croiserez pas beaucoup de monde.
Attention pour le dernier jour, de Tapay à Cabanaconde , la journée sera longue, vous aurez toute la montée. De + de Tapay à St Juan, vous aurez deja une petit bout à faire.
Si vous êtes un peu sur les rotules en fin de rando, vous pouvez filer directement à saint Juan en évitant Tapay. Vous pourrez alors partir à l'aube(fortement conseillé si le soleil est au rdv) le dernier jour pour la montée.
Encore une dernière chose. Ne vous chargé pas trop. Pensé bien à l'eau et au sombrero. Vous pouvez partir le premier jour avec un peu de réserves mais ca sert à rien de prendre la citerne 😉 non plus. L'eau sera, certes plus chère dans le canyon, mais c'est pas non plus la mort.
Bonne rando et profitez bien.
Polo
Ton point sur Llahuar est super intéressant. En fait, on pourrait peut-être profiter encore des sources le lendemain matin et marcher vers Fure l'après-midi ? C'est environ 3h de marche non ? Ça te semble une bonne idée ?
Fure -> Tapay, tu dirais que ça fait combien de temps ?
Nos enfants ont 12 et 15 ans. Au vu de ta réflexion "Indiana Jones", penses-tu qu'il y a de l'imprudence dans ce circuit ?
Dans ce thread, les gens ont fait Tapay -> Cabanaconde en passant par Sangale pour raccourcir parait-il et pour profiter d'une piscine. Tu confirmes que ce serait mieux pour le dernier jour afin d'attraper le bus vers Arequipa ? En plus ils sont partis tard (8h) donc en partant plus tôt ça devrait le faire bien...
Tu parles du sens de circulation qui nous fera nous sentir seuls. Les gens le feraient plutôt dans l'autre sens ? Pour une raison particulière ?
A mon souvenir, le sentier du cote de Fure etait normal, meme jusqu'a la grande cascade. J'etais a cette cascade pour le dejeuner (de Llahuar).
La partie physiquement dure, c'est la remontee finale les groupes la font de petit matin. Mais moi, et vous, dans la chaleur de l'apres midi.
A mon souvenir, le sentier du cote de Fure etait normal, meme jusqu'a la grande cascade. J'etais a cette cascade pour le dejeuner (de Llahuar).
Je ne posterai pas de photos, pour la surprise de ces paysages merveilleux.
Mais je persiste qu'il y a un an le chemin vers Fure (en partant de LLuhar) était accidenté. Des éboulements recouvraient à certains moments, le passage au niveau du sentier. Cela reste ponctuel (les passages comme celui ci sont surement arrangés rapidement).
Après quand je dit "Indiana Jones" ou "vertige", je pense que c'est mesuré par rapport à la demande de Niotrip. Ils font une rando en famille. Ce ne sont pas a priori des trekkeurs de compétition comme vous.
Je me suis permis de regarder votre profil, et forcément, le canyon doit être pour vous une "ballade" de digestion, après une bonne Chimay et quelques Leonidas 😉.
Quand je vois ca :
Je suis Belge, 57 ans. Je cherche un ou deux partenaires, uniquement de boins randonneurs capables de marcher plusieurs jours avec 20 kg sur le dos. Si cela vous interesse ... Pierre
ou ca :
Trekking individuel partout dans le monde (plus de 250 treks). Randonnee sac a dos sans guide, le plus souvent camping. Mon experience commence en 1983.
- Andes: Chili (je connais presque tous les treks), Argentine, Perou, Bolivie
- Himalaya: Inde, Nepal, Pakistan, Tibet
- Europe: Pyrenees, Alpes, Norvege, Islande, Georgie, ...
- Amerique du Nord: Ouest canadien, Alaska
- Autres: NZ, Ethiopie, Maroc, Australie, Costa Rica, ...
Oui c'est clair que tout doit rester normal 😉 (pour vous) pour qq jours dans le canyon.
Après pour les enfants de Niotrip, je doute qu'ils aient la même expérience (un peu compliqué en même temps) et généralement à 12 ou 15 ans, marcher pendant 5 heures sous le soleil 😛. hein bon on aura compris.
Oui c'est éventuellement possible. Tout dépend de la météo. Si il fait bien chaud, c'est conseillé de partir plutôt le matin pour essayer d'avoir un peu de fraicheur. Après si le soleil ne vous fait pas peur .... c'est a vous de voir.
Mais oui ça peut etre une bonne idée. Après dit toi que vous aurez mini 3 heures après ...
Les temps de trajets pour le canyon, je trouve ça un peu "bidon". A chaque fois, je rajoutais une bonne heure au temps indiqué sur ma carte. Tout dépend si tu veut faire un chrono, ou essayer de profiter, faire des pauses, regarder des condors, prendre des photos ...
Quand je lis "montée d'en bas vers le haut qui font en ça en 2 heures" ou "colca c'est facile" ..... mouais mouais 🤪 je reste un peu sceptique. Faudrait prendre des photos à l'arrivée pour voir la tête des randonneurs 😛
Je dit pas que c'est pas possible mais ça fait juste quand même (tu me diras combien de temps vous avez mis !😉)
Pour "l'indiana jones". Je suis pas un papi, hein 😉. Pas d’inquiétude spécifique mais garde tout de même bien l’œil sur tes enfants. Faudra pas qui de mettent a se chamailler sur le chemin pour le dernier "coca" (car oui le chemin est quelque fois bien étroit)
Pour le sens de circulation je te fait passer une carte en MP.
J'envisage de faire le trek complet du cañon del colca en 3 étapes (Cabanaconde/... Juan/Cabanaconde) et si le temps me le permet bien entendu. Les bâtons…
Je prévois de partir au Pérou en juillet. Il s'agira de ma première visite de ce pays, et je n'aurais que 3 semaines, par conséquent j'étudie un circuit très…
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route.
Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
hi how can I get internet when I arrive at Haneda? I mean in areas without free wifi. Is it more interesting to buy a SIM card? If so, at the airport? thanks for your help
We're planning to go at the end of November/beginning of December to visit (with a rental car) and hike on La Palma and El Hierro for 15 full days, including 1 day for inter-island ferry transfers. What’s the best split between the two islands—8 days on La Palma and 6 on El Hierro, or even more time for La Palma? Should we have one or two home bases on La Palma? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi there,
I’m planning to cross the Gourgs Blancs Pass at the end of the month, from La Soula Refuge to Portillon Refuge. On this section near the pass, I don’t have any trail marked on my IGN map. Is the path well signposted, or should I use a compass?
Also, beyond the physical effort, are there any technical, exposed, or vertigo-inducing sections on this part?
Since I’m finding very little info, I’m being thorough with my questions.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
hi there
I’m heading to Uzbekistan for three weeks from mid-September to mid-October 2026—a country I haven’t visited yet.
I’d love to do a few multi-day hikes in the mountains without going through a tour operator or hiring a guide. Has anyone here done this?
It doesn’t have to be all trekking; day hikes are great too.
I’m open to any tips!
Also, I see there are lots of train options if you book well in advance—does that only apply to the "fast" trains? Are there buses as well?
Hello,
In mid-November, we’ll be in Mindelo and Santo Antão.
We’ve booked transportation with Kapverden Tours.
One trip is from Porto Novo to Ponta do Sol, including the hike from Corda to Coculi.
What’s the trail like?
Then we’ll be staying in Ponta do Sol,
Here’s what we’re planning:
A hike to Fontainhas—what’s the best direction, considering we’re not great with climbs? No problem with flat terrain or descents.
Take an aluguer to Ribeira Grande and continue along the coastal road.
With the agency:
An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk.
Return to Porto Novo via the path from Cova to… I’m not sure where yet, to pick up the car for Porto Novo, since we’ll be taking the ferry that evening.
We’ll have a guide for this hike.
We’d love to spend a day in Tarrafal, but getting back requires a boat or taxi, and it’s really expensive!
We’re a couple, 78 and 76 years old.
What do you think of this itinerary?
Not very well known: Hokkaido Island has national parks that rival those in North America. Hiking there is free (even many mountain huts) and requires no formalities. These treks are described in the LP *Hiking in Japan* guide—you can just buy the Hokkaido PDF. It’s way better than Mount Fuji. Of course, everything depends on the weather, which is very unstable in the Japanese mountains (frequent strong winds). The trails are often obstacle courses.
The Daisetsu Zan traverse is a stunning hike through volcanic terrain with a remote section in the middle that requires at least one night of camping (there are basic huts for the rest, which is popular with Japanese hikers): 4 to 6 days.
The Shiretoko traverse takes 2 days with views including an island in Russia, but the ridge is brown bear territory—there are even more here than in Denali National Park in Alaska (brown bears and grizzlies are the same). I ran into 7 in just 6 hours of hiking!
Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish.
I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips?
Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina?
At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
