Cadeaux pour les locaux en Birmanie
by Armdel
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous aimerions offrir des cadeaux (bonbons, chaussures, vêtements, médicaments, …) pour les locaux mais hésitons entre des produits de notre pays et ceux achetés sur place. On nous disait que des choses d’origine européenne sont grandement appréciées dans le pays mais j’ai peur qu’elles leur conviennent pas. Qu’en pensez – vous ?
Inner peace!
du whisky il sont très friand de sa lol
pour les locaux mais hésitons entre des produits de notre pays et ceux achetés sur place. On nous disait que des choses d’origine européenne sont grandement appréciées dans le pays mais j’ai peur qu’elles leur conviennent pas. Qu’en pensez – vous ?
Je pense qu'il faut leur apprendre à cuisiner avec le Cenovis... Une fois qu'ils auront essayé un barbecue avec... vous verrez! Ils ne pourront plus s'en en passer... Ils en redemanderont...
Le Parfaît, ils aiment pas... autant ne pas encombrer vos bagages avec...
Vous pouvez leur apportez, si vous voulez... une ou deux bouteilles de Rivella... Il apprécient la mélanger avec leur whisky local... (ça leur change du cola et c'est presque la même couleur le whisky et le Rivella...
Pensez à prendre quelques rouleux d'Hackle... Ils n'auront jamais vu du papier aussi résistant (3 couches) ! Généralement, j'emmène les rouleaux oranges pour offrir... (ils n'ont pas l'habitude d'en voir autre que blancs)..
Sinon que dire... Ils n'ont pas tous le micro-onde, donc n'amenez pas de fondue Gerber en portion individuelle... Ils ne sauront pas comment la préparer...
Ah oui... un truc qui fait leur effet, ce sont les soupes Knorr ou Maggi... " Si vous connaissez des gamins qui s'appliquent à l'école, achetez-leur des boites de crayons colorés "Caran d'Ache" ... Comme vous le savez, la boîte de crayons colorés est à l'écolier ce que la rolex est pour l'homme politique influent dans la province... Les deux arborent fièrement le "Swiss Made" 🙂
Cordialement.
Je pense qu'il faut leur apprendre à cuisiner avec le Cenovis... Une fois qu'ils auront essayé un barbecue avec... vous verrez! Ils ne pourront plus s'en en passer... Ils en redemanderont...
Le Parfaît, ils aiment pas... autant ne pas encombrer vos bagages avec...
Vous pouvez leur apportez, si vous voulez... une ou deux bouteilles de Rivella... Il apprécient la mélanger avec leur whisky local... (ça leur change du cola et c'est presque la même couleur le whisky et le Rivella...
Pensez à prendre quelques rouleux d'Hackle... Ils n'auront jamais vu du papier aussi résistant (3 couches) ! Généralement, j'emmène les rouleaux oranges pour offrir... (ils n'ont pas l'habitude d'en voir autre que blancs)..
Sinon que dire... Ils n'ont pas tous le micro-onde, donc n'amenez pas de fondue Gerber en portion individuelle... Ils ne sauront pas comment la préparer...
Ah oui... un truc qui fait leur effet, ce sont les soupes Knorr ou Maggi... " Si vous connaissez des gamins qui s'appliquent à l'école, achetez-leur des boites de crayons colorés "Caran d'Ache" ... Comme vous le savez, la boîte de crayons colorés est à l'écolier ce que la rolex est pour l'homme politique influent dans la province... Les deux arborent fièrement le "Swiss Made" 🙂
Cordialement.
Nous aimerions offrir des cadeaux (bonbons, chaussures, vêtements, médicaments, …) pour les locaux mais hésitons entre des produits de notre pays et ceux achetés sur place. On nous disait que des choses d’origine européenne sont grandement appréciées dans le pays mais j’ai peur qu’elles leur conviennent pas. Qu’en pensez – vous ?
Sujet intéressant qui permet de comprendre comment la mendicité devient un fléau qui ravage les populations locales le tout en partant d'une bonne intention. La simple lecture d'un guide ou du forum vous aurez déjà éclairé sur la conduite à tenir quant au petits cadeaux.
Prenons les choses dans l'ordre:
bonbons
Très bonne idée. Je vous suggère par contre de joindre à ce cadeau les consultations chez le dentiste qui n'existe généralement pas en campagne. Donc ne pas oublier de prévoir également le transport pour se rendre dans le cabinet le plus proche.
Ou alors, prévoir un stock suffisant de dentifrice et brosses à dents (une brosse à dent devant se changer tous les 3 mois) car il n'est pas toujours évident de s'en procurer.
chaussures, vêtements
Pourquoi pas ça peut certainement être utile (genre vêtements chauds dans les montagnes par exemple)
médicaments
Très bonne idée. Ne surtout pas oublier de donner également la notice de préférence en français (la Birmanie étant une ancienne colonie portugaise, tout le monde ici parle couramment le russe). Au pire, la donner en anglais comme de toute façon une grande partie du pays, en particulier en campagne, est illettrée ça ne fera pas de grande différence.
Amenez avec vous un médecin (même un dentiste en plus tient!) qui puisse expliquer les différents médicaments et ce à quoi ils servent sinon votre bonne intention risque de se terminer en hécatombe...
pour les locaux mais hésitons entre des produits de notre pays et ceux achetés sur place
De préférence, privilégier les achats de chez vous, de cette façon vous ferez d'un pierre deux coups en faisant un jolie cadeau et en faisant travailler l'économie française qui en a bien besoin.
De plus, ce genre de cadeau est généralement très utile (une tour Eiffel, un porte clef pour la maison en bambou, un stylo qui restera sur les étagères...) dans leur vie quotidienne.
On nous disait que des choses d’origine européenne sont grandement appréciées dans le pays mais j’ai peur qu’elles leur conviennent pas
C'est un problème effectivement. Les birmans ne connaissent pas vraiment l'expression "c'est l'intention qui compte". De plus, si ça ne leur "convient" pas, il y a de forte chance qu'il vous le balance au visage, vous attache à une poutre et vous fasse rôtir pour mieux vous manger. Dans ce cas, il est de bon ton de leur offrir au préalable des ustensiles de cuisine (couteau, planche à découper...)
Qu’en pensez – vous ?
On rentre dans la partie plus sérieuse. Pour moi, le cadeau n'a lieu d'être que si la personne vous invite, passe du temps avec vous et que vous souhaitez la remercier. Si à chaque village vous filez des bonbons, des stylos du dentifrice je ne vous raconte pas les dégâts (Allez faire un tour à Thaung Tho dans le petit village derrière la pagode: le moindre gosse que vous croisez vous demandera de l'argent. Si je choppe le ou la première qui à voulu faire plaisir...)
La meilleur façon d'aider ce peuple, c'est d'aller dans les restaurants, de faire tourner leurs commerces, d'acheter leur artisanat etc. Garder une relation saine ou on s'en sort par le travail et pas uniquement par la main tendue. Il y a des pauvres, il y a des miséreux. Il y en aura toujours et partout..
En donnant des bonbons, des vêtements ou des stylos, vous les tirez pour quelques jours, quelques mois de leur "merde" et après? Voyager dans ces pays c'est accepté de côtoyer une certaine misère et que quelques cadeaux n'effaceront jamais le fait que votre billet d'avion équivaut pour certains à une vie de labeur ce qui de faite, biaise d'entrée la relation...
Sujet intéressant qui permet de comprendre comment la mendicité devient un fléau qui ravage les populations locales le tout en partant d'une bonne intention. La simple lecture d'un guide ou du forum vous aurez déjà éclairé sur la conduite à tenir quant au petits cadeaux.
Prenons les choses dans l'ordre:
bonbons
Très bonne idée. Je vous suggère par contre de joindre à ce cadeau les consultations chez le dentiste qui n'existe généralement pas en campagne. Donc ne pas oublier de prévoir également le transport pour se rendre dans le cabinet le plus proche.
Ou alors, prévoir un stock suffisant de dentifrice et brosses à dents (une brosse à dent devant se changer tous les 3 mois) car il n'est pas toujours évident de s'en procurer.
chaussures, vêtements
Pourquoi pas ça peut certainement être utile (genre vêtements chauds dans les montagnes par exemple)
médicaments
Très bonne idée. Ne surtout pas oublier de donner également la notice de préférence en français (la Birmanie étant une ancienne colonie portugaise, tout le monde ici parle couramment le russe). Au pire, la donner en anglais comme de toute façon une grande partie du pays, en particulier en campagne, est illettrée ça ne fera pas de grande différence.
Amenez avec vous un médecin (même un dentiste en plus tient!) qui puisse expliquer les différents médicaments et ce à quoi ils servent sinon votre bonne intention risque de se terminer en hécatombe...
pour les locaux mais hésitons entre des produits de notre pays et ceux achetés sur place
De préférence, privilégier les achats de chez vous, de cette façon vous ferez d'un pierre deux coups en faisant un jolie cadeau et en faisant travailler l'économie française qui en a bien besoin.
De plus, ce genre de cadeau est généralement très utile (une tour Eiffel, un porte clef pour la maison en bambou, un stylo qui restera sur les étagères...) dans leur vie quotidienne.
On nous disait que des choses d’origine européenne sont grandement appréciées dans le pays mais j’ai peur qu’elles leur conviennent pas
C'est un problème effectivement. Les birmans ne connaissent pas vraiment l'expression "c'est l'intention qui compte". De plus, si ça ne leur "convient" pas, il y a de forte chance qu'il vous le balance au visage, vous attache à une poutre et vous fasse rôtir pour mieux vous manger. Dans ce cas, il est de bon ton de leur offrir au préalable des ustensiles de cuisine (couteau, planche à découper...)
Qu’en pensez – vous ?
On rentre dans la partie plus sérieuse. Pour moi, le cadeau n'a lieu d'être que si la personne vous invite, passe du temps avec vous et que vous souhaitez la remercier. Si à chaque village vous filez des bonbons, des stylos du dentifrice je ne vous raconte pas les dégâts (Allez faire un tour à Thaung Tho dans le petit village derrière la pagode: le moindre gosse que vous croisez vous demandera de l'argent. Si je choppe le ou la première qui à voulu faire plaisir...)
La meilleur façon d'aider ce peuple, c'est d'aller dans les restaurants, de faire tourner leurs commerces, d'acheter leur artisanat etc. Garder une relation saine ou on s'en sort par le travail et pas uniquement par la main tendue. Il y a des pauvres, il y a des miséreux. Il y en aura toujours et partout..
En donnant des bonbons, des vêtements ou des stylos, vous les tirez pour quelques jours, quelques mois de leur "merde" et après? Voyager dans ces pays c'est accepté de côtoyer une certaine misère et que quelques cadeaux n'effaceront jamais le fait que votre billet d'avion équivaut pour certains à une vie de labeur ce qui de faite, biaise d'entrée la relation...
100 pourcent d accord avec vous
donner des cado au petit français qui on en besoin aussi pas besoin d aller aussi loin pour voir des gens pauvre
donner des cado au petit français qui on en besoin aussi pas besoin d aller aussi loin pour voir des gens pauvre
D'accord avec NinoSoldado. Ne transformez pas les Birmans en mendiants.
Je ne crois pas que les touristes qui viennent en Suisse distribuent des bonbons aux enfants...
il distribue du gruyère 😄😄😄😄😄
D'accord avec NinoSoldado. Ne transformez pas les Birmans en mendiants.
Je ne crois pas que les touristes qui viennent en Suisse distribuent des bonbons aux enfants...
Quand les touristes des pays du golfe viennent pour les fêtes de Genève, ils distribuent des billlets de 1000 francs aux mendiants... 😎
Quand les touristes des pays du golfe viennent pour les fêtes de Genève, ils distribuent des billlets de 1000 francs aux mendiants... 😎
Bonjour Armdel,
Je ne suis pas du tout pour encourager la mendicité, mais pendant notre voyage de 3 semaines en Birmanie en février dernier, nous avons souvent fait plaisir en rajoutant à un achat ou à un service reçu, quelques échantillons de parfum ou d'eau de toilette. Cela ne pèse pas dans la valise et cela vous rapportera un grand sourire !
Je ne suis pas du tout pour encourager la mendicité, mais pendant notre voyage de 3 semaines en Birmanie en février dernier, nous avons souvent fait plaisir en rajoutant à un achat ou à un service reçu, quelques échantillons de parfum ou d'eau de toilette. Cela ne pèse pas dans la valise et cela vous rapportera un grand sourire !
Dany
Bonjour,
Assez d'accord avec Ninosoldado.
En ce qui concerne les dons aux écoles. L'idée du voyageur /donateur est de donner des moyens d'apprendre aux élèves, qui ne peuvent pas se payer ces fournitures scolaires. Le voyageur / donateur donne souvent les fournitures scolaires aux enseignants en pensant qu'ils font les redistribuer. Très souvent, les crayons, gommes, cahiers, calculettes sont revendus aux élèves par les instits.😕 En donnant, on obtient souvent le contraire de ce que l'on recherche. On favorise les + aisés et on favorise aussi une certaine forme de corruption.🤪
En ce qui concerne les petits cadeaux ( échantillon de parfum ). Ces échantillons sont souvent revendus. Lors d'un achat, donner un échantillon cela revient à majorer le prix de l'article acheté.🤪 Sachant que très souvent les prix sont majorés pour les touristes, cela revient ( vu de la part du vendeur ) a s'imposer une pénalité supplémentaire.🏴☠️
Assez d'accord avec Ninosoldado.
En ce qui concerne les dons aux écoles. L'idée du voyageur /donateur est de donner des moyens d'apprendre aux élèves, qui ne peuvent pas se payer ces fournitures scolaires. Le voyageur / donateur donne souvent les fournitures scolaires aux enseignants en pensant qu'ils font les redistribuer. Très souvent, les crayons, gommes, cahiers, calculettes sont revendus aux élèves par les instits.😕 En donnant, on obtient souvent le contraire de ce que l'on recherche. On favorise les + aisés et on favorise aussi une certaine forme de corruption.🤪
En ce qui concerne les petits cadeaux ( échantillon de parfum ). Ces échantillons sont souvent revendus. Lors d'un achat, donner un échantillon cela revient à majorer le prix de l'article acheté.🤪 Sachant que très souvent les prix sont majorés pour les touristes, cela revient ( vu de la part du vendeur ) a s'imposer une pénalité supplémentaire.🏴☠️
On rentre dans la partie plus sérieuse. Pour moi, le cadeau n'a lieu d'être que si la personne vous invite, passe du temps avec vous et que vous souhaitez la remercier.
Je suis assez d'accord sur ce principe.
Nous étions partis avec quelques cahiers, crayons, mais davantage dans l'optique de partager des bons moments.
Exemple: un jour nous attendions à la station de bus, et nous avons discuté longuement avec un moine, qui au moment du départ, nous a offert le magazine de son monastère. Nous lui avons rendu cette attention en lui offrant un petit agenda.
J'avais également imprimé des coloriages et ça nous a permis de passer un bon moment avec des enfants dans le train.
Finalement je n'ai pas regretté d'avoir sur moi deux trois bricoles.
Je suis assez d'accord sur ce principe.
Nous étions partis avec quelques cahiers, crayons, mais davantage dans l'optique de partager des bons moments.
Exemple: un jour nous attendions à la station de bus, et nous avons discuté longuement avec un moine, qui au moment du départ, nous a offert le magazine de son monastère. Nous lui avons rendu cette attention en lui offrant un petit agenda.
J'avais également imprimé des coloriages et ça nous a permis de passer un bon moment avec des enfants dans le train.
Finalement je n'ai pas regretté d'avoir sur moi deux trois bricoles.
When one realizes his life is worthless, he either commits suicide or travels
Cela part d'un bon semtiment, aussi, apres avoir lu ces posts...on ne peut plus explicites.....voici quelques explications et idees d'aide pour ce pays. Apporter des vetements et autres idees (pas de bonbons..merci) c'est une bonne idee. Nous contacter via le site internet.
Je ne sais pas ce que les locaux font de leurs cadeaux mais je trouve que le geste garde un côté malsain. La seule fois ou j'ai donné un cadeau, c'était parce qu'un moine m'avait invité à déjeuner dans son monastère à Phnom Penh.
J'ai fait le trek entre Kalaw et le Lac Inle, un couple d'allemand avait également prévu des cadeaux (dentifrice, stylos etc.). Les voir distribuer leurs présents derrière la rambarde en bois de la maison donnait une belle impression de zoo humain. Pas un mot échangé, quelques sourires enfin bref juste de quoi se donner bonne conscience.
Après, je suis peut-être radin ou pire, totalement insensibles à leurs conditions de vie!
J'ai fait le trek entre Kalaw et le Lac Inle, un couple d'allemand avait également prévu des cadeaux (dentifrice, stylos etc.). Les voir distribuer leurs présents derrière la rambarde en bois de la maison donnait une belle impression de zoo humain. Pas un mot échangé, quelques sourires enfin bref juste de quoi se donner bonne conscience.
Après, je suis peut-être radin ou pire, totalement insensibles à leurs conditions de vie!
Nous aimerions offrir des cadeaux (bonbons, chaussures, vêtements, médicaments, …) pour les locaux mais hésitons entre des produits de notre pays et ceux achetés sur place. On nous disait que des choses d’origine européenne sont grandement appréciées dans le pays mais j’ai peur qu’elles leur conviennent pas. Qu’en pensez – vous ?
Salut Armand,
Moi, je propose des bananes et des cacahuètes achetées sur place. C'est pas cher, ça fait fonctionner l'économie locale et les déchets sont biodégradables. En plus, tu verras comme le birman est facétieux : quand tu lui jettes une banane ou une cacahuète. il fait des cabrioles, des pirouettes ... De belles photos en perspectives. 😉
Bonnes vacances
Salut Armand,
Moi, je propose des bananes et des cacahuètes achetées sur place. C'est pas cher, ça fait fonctionner l'économie locale et les déchets sont biodégradables. En plus, tu verras comme le birman est facétieux : quand tu lui jettes une banane ou une cacahuète. il fait des cabrioles, des pirouettes ... De belles photos en perspectives. 😉
Bonnes vacances
Bonjour NinoSoldado,
Nous avions emporté quelques échantillons (une quinzaine, à tout casser), ayant lu quelque part que cela ferait plaisir. J'en ai donné à une gentille dame à qui j'ai acheté de beaux t-shirts quelque part à Bagan (j'avais bien négocié -et je ne voulais pas dépasser ce prix - et la qualité était top, ce qui n'est pas le cas partout). C'est elle qui m'a demandé si nous en avions et j'en avais dans mon sac à dos, j'avais carrément oublié, et cela semblait lui avoir fait plaisir... Les échantillons de parfum restants, je les ai donnés à Yangon, dans un centre de massage où nous avons eu droit à un service excellent (au moment où on les leur a donnés, elles se sont regardées et ne semblait même pas savoir de quoi il s'agissait, on leur a donc montré). Voilà, c'est tout...
Je ne donne jamais d'argent aux mendiants, mais je n'ai pas de problème à leur acheter un petit quelque chose à manger à la place. Il nous est aussi arrivé de partager un petit repas avec l'un ou l'autre d'entre eux, entre autres au Cambodge. Un moment de partage, ça fait du bien à tous, je trouve...
Nous avions emporté quelques échantillons (une quinzaine, à tout casser), ayant lu quelque part que cela ferait plaisir. J'en ai donné à une gentille dame à qui j'ai acheté de beaux t-shirts quelque part à Bagan (j'avais bien négocié -et je ne voulais pas dépasser ce prix - et la qualité était top, ce qui n'est pas le cas partout). C'est elle qui m'a demandé si nous en avions et j'en avais dans mon sac à dos, j'avais carrément oublié, et cela semblait lui avoir fait plaisir... Les échantillons de parfum restants, je les ai donnés à Yangon, dans un centre de massage où nous avons eu droit à un service excellent (au moment où on les leur a donnés, elles se sont regardées et ne semblait même pas savoir de quoi il s'agissait, on leur a donc montré). Voilà, c'est tout...
Je ne donne jamais d'argent aux mendiants, mais je n'ai pas de problème à leur acheter un petit quelque chose à manger à la place. Il nous est aussi arrivé de partager un petit repas avec l'un ou l'autre d'entre eux, entre autres au Cambodge. Un moment de partage, ça fait du bien à tous, je trouve...
Dany
De temps en temps effectivement ça peut faire plaisir, Disons que c'est l'aspect systématique ou "obligatoire" qui me dérange. Ce qui je regrette par contre, c'est de ne point avoir de polaroid. C'est totalement inutile mais généralement, avoir leur tête sur une photo avec en prime un étranger c'est toujours un plaisir pour eux!
Je suis d'accord avec toi. Les photos leur font toujours plaisir. Nous avons eu le cas il y a 4 ans dans un village du nord de la Thaïlande (nous étions tombés sur des funérailles) et y avions pris de nombreuses photos. L'année suivante, nous avons pris les photos sur une clé usb et les avons fait imprimer et constitué un petit album. Nous sommes retournés dans ce village (et il y avait encore des funérailles !). Ils nous ont reconnus, nous avons encore partagé leur table et leur avons offert l'album. Inutile de dire que nous avons eu droit à un statut de "guest stars" avec de nombreux sourires en prime. Beaucoup d'émotion de part et d'autre. Ces moments resteront gravés dans nos coeurs.
Dany
Nous avions emporté quelques échantillons (une quinzaine, à tout casser), ayant lu quelque part que cela ferait plaisir. J'en ai donné à une gentille dame à qui j'ai acheté de beaux t-shirts quelque part à Bagan (j'avais bien négocié -et je ne voulais pas dépasser ce prix - et la qualité était top, ce qui n'est pas le cas partout). C'est elle qui m'a demandé si nous en avions et j'en avais dans mon sac à dos, j'avais carrément oublié, et cela semblait lui avoir fait plaisir... Les échantillons de parfum restants, je les ai donnés à Yangon, dans un centre de massage où nous avons eu droit à un service excellent (au moment où on les leur a donnés, elles se sont regardées et ne semblait même pas savoir de quoi il s'agissait, on leur a donc montré). Voilà, c'est tout...
Bonjour Dany,
Ta pratique me parait totalement incongrue. Dans une transaction commerciale, c'est le cas échéant au vendeur de faire un geste supplémentaire (le fameux "geste commercial"), pas à l'acheteur. Même si la relation avec le commerçant est agréable, c'est une relation commerciale. Ce que tu as fait en Birmanie, je ne l'ai pas vu faire par des Birmans. Je suppose que tu ne le fais pas en Europe. Alors, où est l'intérêt à part observer l'indigène agréablement ou pas surpris par ta verroterie?
Bonjour Dany,
Ta pratique me parait totalement incongrue. Dans une transaction commerciale, c'est le cas échéant au vendeur de faire un geste supplémentaire (le fameux "geste commercial"), pas à l'acheteur. Même si la relation avec le commerçant est agréable, c'est une relation commerciale. Ce que tu as fait en Birmanie, je ne l'ai pas vu faire par des Birmans. Je suppose que tu ne le fais pas en Europe. Alors, où est l'intérêt à part observer l'indigène agréablement ou pas surpris par ta verroterie?
Bonjour,
Pour parler de bananes et autres fruits, c'est en fait une excellente idée. Passez par le marché de gros et achetez 2 ou 3 régimes de bananes ainsi que 2 ou 3 pastèques et offrez les en allant visiter un monastère qui fait aussi bien souvent office d'école et d'orphelinat. Les enfants et les moines seront ravis car ils ne mangent quasiment jamais de fruits...!! Pour nous c'est pas cher: entre 5 et 10 CHF/$ et pour eux, c'est énorme!!!!!!!!!!!!😉
Bonjour,
Pour parler de bananes et autres fruits, c'est en fait une excellente idée. Passez par le marché de gros et achetez 2 ou 3 régimes de bananes ainsi que 2 ou 3 pastèques et offrez les en allant visiter un monastère qui fait aussi bien souvent office d'école et d'orphelinat. Les enfants et les moines seront ravis car ils ne mangent quasiment jamais de fruits...!! Pour nous c'est pas cher: entre 5 et 10 CHF/$ et pour eux, c'est énorme!!!!!!!!!!!!😉
C'est risqué ton histoire. Si les moines et les enfants n'ont pas l'habitude de manger des bananes, ils risquent de bouffer la peau avec. Je recommande donc d'y aller avec des membres d'une ONG habitués à éduquer les sauvages qui feront une démonstration de dégustation de bananes. Un peu comme l’hôtesse de l'air qui explique avant le départ comment enfiler le gilet de sauvetage.
Sinon, si tu as une photo d'un touriste allant visiter un monastère avec 2 ou 3 régimes de bananes sur le dos, je suis preneur. ça serait énorme !!!!!!!!!!!!!!😉 Pour nous comme pour eux!
C'est risqué ton histoire. Si les moines et les enfants n'ont pas l'habitude de manger des bananes, ils risquent de bouffer la peau avec. Je recommande donc d'y aller avec des membres d'une ONG habitués à éduquer les sauvages qui feront une démonstration de dégustation de bananes. Un peu comme l’hôtesse de l'air qui explique avant le départ comment enfiler le gilet de sauvetage.
Sinon, si tu as une photo d'un touriste allant visiter un monastère avec 2 ou 3 régimes de bananes sur le dos, je suis preneur. ça serait énorme !!!!!!!!!!!!!!😉 Pour nous comme pour eux!
décidément... que de mépris dans tes réponses... Personnellement, cela fait des années que je participe à des forums et jamais au grand jamais je ne me permettrais d'être aussi condescendante et encore moins méprisante... Dommage pour les internautes d'avoir à subir ce genre de remarques... à moins que ce ne soit de l'"humour" au cinquantième degré ?😛
Dany
décidément... que de mépris dans tes réponses... Personnellement, cela fait des années que je participe à des forums et jamais au grand jamais je ne me permettrais d'être aussi condescendante et encore moins méprisante... Dommage pour les internautes d'avoir à subir ce genre de remarques... à moins que ce ne soit de l'"humour" au cinquantième degré ?😛
Mince, moi qui croyais que la condescendance et le mépris, c'était de distribuer de la pacotille aux bons sauvages ...
Mince, moi qui croyais que la condescendance et le mépris, c'était de distribuer de la pacotille aux bons sauvages ...
Ravie d'avoir a faire avec des etres qui suppose l'humour au cinquantieme degre😉
Mince, moi qui croyais que la condescendance et le mépris, c'était de distribuer de la pacotille aux bons sauvages
miam, des quinzins, tel le cyrano des forums
«Je jette avec grâce mon feutre, Je fais lentement l’abandon Du grand manteau qui me calfeutre, Et je tire mon espadon, Élégant comme Céladon, Agile comme Scaramouche, Je vous préviens, DanyMichon, Qu’à la fin de l’envoi, je touche !»
miam, des quinzins, tel le cyrano des forums
«Je jette avec grâce mon feutre, Je fais lentement l’abandon Du grand manteau qui me calfeutre, Et je tire mon espadon, Élégant comme Céladon, Agile comme Scaramouche, Je vous préviens, DanyMichon, Qu’à la fin de l’envoi, je touche !»
Bonjour
Ma pierre à l'édifice ( un peu branlant) de cette discussion
Lors de notre séjour, mon épouse est tombé en panne ( asthmatique) d'anti-histaminique ( orthographe a confirmer).
Nous avons été voir un médecin local ( bagan) qui nous a fourni une ordonnance pour nous en procurer. Ce médecin n'a jamais voulu se faire payer . Arrivé à la " pharmacie", les medicaments étaient distribués à la pièce, en découpant les tablettes.
Verdict : avant de repartir en France, nous avons trouvé un médecin a Yangon et lui avons vidé notre pharmacie portative ( paracétamol, ibuprofène, smecta et autres indispensables. Je vous dis pas comme le toubib était heureux ....
Gratuit pour nous, utiles pour eux...
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux."
Marcel Proust
Verdict : avant de repartir en France, nous avons trouvé un médecin a Yangon et lui avons vidé notre pharmacie portative ( paracétamol, ibuprofène, smecta et autres indispensables. Je vous dis pas comme le toubib était heureux ....
Si les médicaments sont effectivement donnés à un professionnel de santé alors oui pourquoi pas (si derrière il ne s'amuse pas à les revendre au prix fort aux locaux...).
Si les médicaments sont effectivement donnés à un professionnel de santé alors oui pourquoi pas (si derrière il ne s'amuse pas à les revendre au prix fort aux locaux...).
Et qu'en pensez-vous?
Bonjour,
Si jamais vous voulez faire plaisir à des Birmans francophones, j'ai des ami(e)s à Yangon qui recherchent désespérément des DVD de films récents en Français. C'est quasiment impossible à trouver dans leur pays et là croyez-moi, vous ferez des heureux.
Si jamais vous voulez faire plaisir à des Birmans francophones, j'ai des ami(e)s à Yangon qui recherchent désespérément des DVD de films récents en Français. C'est quasiment impossible à trouver dans leur pays et là croyez-moi, vous ferez des heureux.
Salut les voyageurs.
Je confirme les birmans seront vraiment touchés par de petits cadeaux européens. Ils adorent (femmes et hommes) prendre soin d'eux (échantillons de parfum, produits cosmétiques etc), les enfants apprécient les bonbons, mais des crayons / stylos etc leur plairont aussi. Dans tous les cas ils seront sensible à une petite attention.
La Birmanie est un pays avec l'un des peuples les plus gentil au monde. Nous avons adoré cette destinations. A découvrir avant que le pays ne soit trop dénaturé par le tourisme de masse.
Retour sur notre expérience en Birmanie
Je confirme les birmans seront vraiment touchés par de petits cadeaux européens. Ils adorent (femmes et hommes) prendre soin d'eux (échantillons de parfum, produits cosmétiques etc), les enfants apprécient les bonbons, mais des crayons / stylos etc leur plairont aussi. Dans tous les cas ils seront sensible à une petite attention.
La Birmanie est un pays avec l'un des peuples les plus gentil au monde. Nous avons adoré cette destinations. A découvrir avant que le pays ne soit trop dénaturé par le tourisme de masse.
Retour sur notre expérience en Birmanie
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Bonjour.
Je vous conseille de consulter au plus vite.
Ou alors, vous êtes mandater pour nous dégoûter de venir sur ce forum.
Il y avait une certaine Clavdia(fort désagréable)et maintenant la queue de mickey.
Le seul cadeau que l'on doit faire à ce peuple plein d'amour, c'est d'être aimable et courtois en permanence.
Je me dispense, évidemment de votre réponse; au demeurant certainement vulgaire et provocante.
Happy to the everyday life
Le seul cadeau que l'on doit faire à ce peuple plein d'amour, c'est d'être aimable et courtois en permanence.
Un "peuple plein d'amour"! Ce "peuple plein d'amour" est une mosaïque de plus d'une centaine d'ethnies déchirée régulièrement par des conflits armés. Des comme ça, tu en as beaucoup en stock, citoyen du monde?
Un "peuple plein d'amour"! Ce "peuple plein d'amour" est une mosaïque de plus d'une centaine d'ethnies déchirée régulièrement par des conflits armés. Des comme ça, tu en as beaucoup en stock, citoyen du monde?
Quel dictateur ne rêverait pas d'avoir un peuple soumis et déchiré mais qui garde le sourire! ...
Pour les médicaments, c'est une bonne idée à condition de leur donner la traduction du mode d'emploi en anglais (minimum). Encore une fois, je me répète, plutôt que le professionnel de santé qui ...on l'espère sera honnête et "offrira" ces médicaments à ceux qui ne peuvent les payer....!!Autrement, ils en ont besoin dans les monastères/Orphelinats.😏
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Bonjour
Je souhaiterais me rendre au vietnam à danang et hoi an en février.
Qui connaît un guide francophone sur place ?
Merci pour votre aide
Bonjour à tous.
je prépare mon voyage et d'après tous les post lus, ce pays est incroyable.
Evidemment j'ai une tonne de questions à vous poser.
voici l'itinéraire possible - Vientiane - Vang Vien - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luanh Namtha et région - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang et retour sur Vientiane
qu'en pensez-vous ?
nous allons privilégié les transports locaux, est-il possible d'effectuer cette boucle ?
Nous aimerions également faire du kayak mais je ne sais pas si la saison s'y prête et quel est le meilleur endroit pour le faire.
Concernant le trekking - j'ai lu de Phongsali était le spot le plus authentique pour visiter les villages et la faune ? - connaissez-vous une agence sérieuse et une guesthouse qui pratiquent des prix raisonnables ?
cela vaut-il le coup de prendre un bateau lent pour un trajet sur le Mékong et si oui quel trajet ?
Concernant les hébergements, est il préférable de passer par booking et Agoda ou chercher en arrivant ?
est ce que les moustiques sont voraces au Laos et faut-il un traitement contre le paludisme ? quel est le budget moyen par jour environ (hébergement - nourriture- visite)
est-ce une bonne option de louer des scooters pour visiter les villes et si oui lesquelles ?
d'après ce que je lis, il est préférable d'avoir des espèces sur soi - euros ou dollars ? ce n'est pas trop dangereux de se promener avec autant de billets ?
j'ai encore des tas de questions . Merci à ceux qui peuvent m'aider et preneuse de tout conseils, infos etc... encore merci
Concernant les hébergements, est il préférable de passer par booking et Agoda ou chercher en arrivant ?
est ce que les moustiques sont voraces au Laos et faut-il un traitement contre le paludisme ? quel est le budget moyen par jour environ (hébergement - nourriture- visite)
est-ce une bonne option de louer des scooters pour visiter les villes et si oui lesquelles ?
d'après ce que je lis, il est préférable d'avoir des espèces sur soi - euros ou dollars ? ce n'est pas trop dangereux de se promener avec autant de billets ?
j'ai encore des tas de questions . Merci à ceux qui peuvent m'aider et preneuse de tout conseils, infos etc... encore merci
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Bonjour, qui serait sur place en ce moment à Flores? d apres des sites internet, tout serait fermé, la situation serait difficile ; notre guide dirait que ça va ; qui croire? nous sommes censés partir le 2 septembre ; merci à celles et ceux qui sont à Flores en ce moment
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.






