Thaïlande, Birmanie, Laos: quel pays choisir?
by Laumac
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je commence à mettre des ous de côté, ans je n'ai jamais mis les pieds en Asie et là à ce jour je ne peux plus ne pas l'envisager!!
parcontre je suis enseignante et ne pourrais partir qu'n été!je n'ai pas non plus un budget trés large mais je me suffis de peu, j'ai avant tout le désir de m'imprégner d'une culture trés éloignée de la notre et qui m'"aimante"
de ces pays lequel est le moins onéreux, je voyagerai peut être seule, aucun des me semble dangereux pour une femme seule!
quels conseils?quelles ont vos préférences?qd prendre le billet pour l'obtenir le moins cher possible?quelle regionà préviligier?je suis trés sportive, plutôt "voyageuse" que touriste consommante!!je souhaite me fondre et découvrirla vie des locaux!
merci paravance de vos expériences!
laurence
B🙂njour/Sawasdee (en Thaï) Laurence,
Félicitations pour votre projet.
Je serais tenté de vous répondre: potassez les guides-papier des 3 destinations (Thaïlande, Myanmar&Laos) pour choisir celle qui vous tente le plus: son patrimoine culturel, ses paysages, sa cuisine pourquoi pas etc...bref en fonction de vos centres d'intérêt. Car l'accueil y est potentiellement le même, souriant et bienveillant, de même que le coût de la vie globalement.Le Tout est de vous éloigner le plus possible des "autoroutes touristiques" vers lesquelles vous ramènent presque invariablement les guides-papier (et même les forums..).Sachez privilégier les alternatives, vous laisser guider par le radar de votre intuition.
Oui on peut tout à fait se loger "basiquement" mais correctement, en Thaïlande et au Laos (l'hébergement en Birmanie est + cher), entre 5 et 10 euros/nuit à peu prés partout, en particulier hors quartiers dits touristiques.Choisir son lit sur place garantie davantage satisfaction et prix.
Une femme voyageant seule est souvent prise en sympathie par les Locaux et même ses congénères voyageurs.
Oui on peut manger pour des broutilles dans ces 3 Pays, sur les marchés alimentaires, dans des gargotes, sur des stands de rue. La 3ème classe des trains Thaï permet de circuler à prix modiques.
Bangkok, plaque tournante aérienne, offre les meilleures opportunités tarifaires.Pour l'achat de votre billet, je vous renvoie au moteur de recherche de VF qui vous donnera moulte conseils.
Après avoir décidé de votre pays hôte, revenez-nous avec des questions plus précises. Il serait utile également de renseigner la durée prévue de votre séjour.
En espérant avoir un peu avancé votre réflexion et me tenant à votre dispo, je vous souhaite bon courage et chance pour vos recherches.
Cdlt,
Yell😉wmop.
Félicitations pour votre projet.
Je serais tenté de vous répondre: potassez les guides-papier des 3 destinations (Thaïlande, Myanmar&Laos) pour choisir celle qui vous tente le plus: son patrimoine culturel, ses paysages, sa cuisine pourquoi pas etc...bref en fonction de vos centres d'intérêt. Car l'accueil y est potentiellement le même, souriant et bienveillant, de même que le coût de la vie globalement.Le Tout est de vous éloigner le plus possible des "autoroutes touristiques" vers lesquelles vous ramènent presque invariablement les guides-papier (et même les forums..).Sachez privilégier les alternatives, vous laisser guider par le radar de votre intuition.
Oui on peut tout à fait se loger "basiquement" mais correctement, en Thaïlande et au Laos (l'hébergement en Birmanie est + cher), entre 5 et 10 euros/nuit à peu prés partout, en particulier hors quartiers dits touristiques.Choisir son lit sur place garantie davantage satisfaction et prix.
Une femme voyageant seule est souvent prise en sympathie par les Locaux et même ses congénères voyageurs.
Oui on peut manger pour des broutilles dans ces 3 Pays, sur les marchés alimentaires, dans des gargotes, sur des stands de rue. La 3ème classe des trains Thaï permet de circuler à prix modiques.
Bangkok, plaque tournante aérienne, offre les meilleures opportunités tarifaires.Pour l'achat de votre billet, je vous renvoie au moteur de recherche de VF qui vous donnera moulte conseils.
Après avoir décidé de votre pays hôte, revenez-nous avec des questions plus précises. Il serait utile également de renseigner la durée prévue de votre séjour.
En espérant avoir un peu avancé votre réflexion et me tenant à votre dispo, je vous souhaite bon courage et chance pour vos recherches.
Cdlt,
Yell😉wmop.
Coucou Laurence
Pour moi y a pas photo, pour un 1er voyage en Asie, la Thaïlande me semble tout à fait adaptée : rapport qualité prix imbattable, dépaysement sans perdre ses repères (du fait de la fréquentation touristique), choix importants selon ses gouts (ville, montagne, campagne, plages et iles) et facilité des déplacements en terme d organisation.
Je ne connais pas le Laos mais la Birmanie d où j arrive me semble bien plus compliquée pour une1ere expérience en autonome.
Comme Yellowmop je te conseille d acheter un guide Thaïlande et de définir tes centres d intérêt.
Bonne recherche 😉
Christelle
Le monde est comme un miroir, si tu lui souris, il te sourit aussi!
Bonjour,
Je connais les trois pays. En effet, au niveau des tarifs, ce sera plus avantageux au Laos et en Thailande. Pour la beauté du pays et pour découvrir des lieux encore préservés du tourisme de masse, c'est sans hésiter en Birmanie qu'il faut aller. Mais comme c'est un premier voyage en Asie, je recommanderai d'aller au plus simple comme la Thailande, où il est très facile de voyager, voire le Laos. La Birmanie, c'est un peu plus compliqué et encore... Et pour obtenir le billet le moins cher possible pour cet été en Asie, c'est tout de suite avec un vol pour Bangkok. Si tu choisis ensuite le Laos ou la Birmanie, il y a des liaisons faciles et on peut même y accéder par des frontières terrestres.
Je connais les trois pays. En effet, au niveau des tarifs, ce sera plus avantageux au Laos et en Thailande. Pour la beauté du pays et pour découvrir des lieux encore préservés du tourisme de masse, c'est sans hésiter en Birmanie qu'il faut aller. Mais comme c'est un premier voyage en Asie, je recommanderai d'aller au plus simple comme la Thailande, où il est très facile de voyager, voire le Laos. La Birmanie, c'est un peu plus compliqué et encore... Et pour obtenir le billet le moins cher possible pour cet été en Asie, c'est tout de suite avec un vol pour Bangkok. Si tu choisis ensuite le Laos ou la Birmanie, il y a des liaisons faciles et on peut même y accéder par des frontières terrestres.
Bonjour
Même avis que Kristophe : pour un 1er voyage en Asie je conseille tjs la Thailande ou Bali qui sont 2 destinations ou tout est facile. Qd on n'a jamais mis les pieds en Asie du sud-est , on a deja a découvrir et apprendre 😏, pas la peine de se compliquer la vie en allant au fin fond de Sulawesi ou du pays Chin 🤪 Ensuite foncez en Birmanie sans hésitez Bon voyage
Même avis que Kristophe : pour un 1er voyage en Asie je conseille tjs la Thailande ou Bali qui sont 2 destinations ou tout est facile. Qd on n'a jamais mis les pieds en Asie du sud-est , on a deja a découvrir et apprendre 😏, pas la peine de se compliquer la vie en allant au fin fond de Sulawesi ou du pays Chin 🤪 Ensuite foncez en Birmanie sans hésitez Bon voyage
Photos commentées voyages et montagne : http://christian.aude.free.fr
Carnets de voyages en images : Bornéo 2025 (Brunei et Malaisie), Sumba 2024, Papouasie 2022, Vietnam 2019, Moluques 2018, Sulawesi 2016, Philippines 1984 (eh oui ! ) .
Carnets de voyages en images : Bornéo 2025 (Brunei et Malaisie), Sumba 2024, Papouasie 2022, Vietnam 2019, Moluques 2018, Sulawesi 2016, Philippines 1984 (eh oui ! ) .
B🙂nsoir Christian,
Loin de moi l'envie de polémiquer, toutefois, pour Laumac, qui, si j'en crois ses interventions sur VF (cf profil), a déjà voyagé en individuel, je ne vois pas bien en quoi Laos&Myanmar seraient des destinations pas , même si effectivement au tourisme moins développé qu'en Thaïlande. Quand bien même, choisit-on forcément un pays de villégiature pour son "accessibilité touristique"? Je crois comprendre, à vous lire entre les lignes (peut-être me trompe-je?), que par vous entendez, notamment, confort de séjour (transport, hébergement...), ce qui ne me semble pas être la préoccupation majeure de notre camarade et de toutes façons on sait que visiter Laos&Myanmar n'est pas "calamiteux", faut pas pousser Mémé dans les orties...
Perso je décide du lieu de mon voyage par intérêt&affinités/connexions personnels, qu'importent ou presque ses infrastructures "touristiques".L'expérience se "mérite" parfois...c'est même cette dernière qui à l'occasion/souvent(?)/toujours(?) marque le plus.
Reste à savoir, bien évidemment, la position de l'intéressée, Laumac, que l'on attend.
En espérant que vous ne prendrez pas ombrage de mes questions&réflexions, je vous interpelle juste dans un esprit de dialogue et d'empathie envers l'initiatrice du topic.
Loin de moi l'envie de polémiquer, toutefois, pour Laumac, qui, si j'en crois ses interventions sur VF (cf profil), a déjà voyagé en individuel, je ne vois pas bien en quoi Laos&Myanmar seraient des destinations pas , même si effectivement au tourisme moins développé qu'en Thaïlande. Quand bien même, choisit-on forcément un pays de villégiature pour son "accessibilité touristique"? Je crois comprendre, à vous lire entre les lignes (peut-être me trompe-je?), que par vous entendez, notamment, confort de séjour (transport, hébergement...), ce qui ne me semble pas être la préoccupation majeure de notre camarade et de toutes façons on sait que visiter Laos&Myanmar n'est pas "calamiteux", faut pas pousser Mémé dans les orties...
Perso je décide du lieu de mon voyage par intérêt&affinités/connexions personnels, qu'importent ou presque ses infrastructures "touristiques".L'expérience se "mérite" parfois...c'est même cette dernière qui à l'occasion/souvent(?)/toujours(?) marque le plus.
Reste à savoir, bien évidemment, la position de l'intéressée, Laumac, que l'on attend.
En espérant que vous ne prendrez pas ombrage de mes questions&réflexions, je vous interpelle juste dans un esprit de dialogue et d'empathie envers l'initiatrice du topic.
Bonjour
Nul besoin de confronter vos opinions, on s'en moque!mais j'avoue aimer votre"verbe", vous écrivez élégamment... J'ai été agréablement surprise de voir toutes ces interventions toutes bienveillantes!! Bien sur que je vais potasser les guides cela va s'en dire, et c'est là que l'on commence à voyager! Je voulais juste dans un premier jet, avoir des ressentis des nombreux voyageurs du site..je suis une "modeste" voyageuse, j'aimerai partir plus souvent mais pour l'instant mes contraintes financières sont là et mes enfants , jeunes ados passent en priorité!!mais plus tard je rêve de partir partir et partir!! J'aimerai expérimenter le voyage seule mais je n'y suis pas encore prête, un voyage a deux ou plusieurs en Asie me rassurera probablement et par la suite j'irai là ou l'envie m’amènera...
Pour reprendre vos dires envers lesquels je me sens assez proche, je ne comprends pas ce que peut être un pays facile, j'ai juste besoin de moyen de transport, d’hébergement (chez l'habitant serait le mieux), le confort du séjour n'est pas une caractéristique que je mets en priorité!!je fais de la montagne et ai l'habitude de dormir un peu n'importe où!!parcontre m'importe surtout la qualité du contact avec les locaux des pays, celà pour moi est primordiale et une richesse..en tous cas c'est cela que je recherche, vivre et partager , progresser, avancer ...dans un contexte nouveau, déroutant, à apprivoiser... Je vais plutôt fuir les endroits touristiques c'est dans mon tempérament , et vais revenir à mon idée première de pays avant que cela ne devienne partout Nord et sud, rempli de touristes"consommateurs" Bien à vous et merci Laurence
Nul besoin de confronter vos opinions, on s'en moque!mais j'avoue aimer votre"verbe", vous écrivez élégamment... J'ai été agréablement surprise de voir toutes ces interventions toutes bienveillantes!! Bien sur que je vais potasser les guides cela va s'en dire, et c'est là que l'on commence à voyager! Je voulais juste dans un premier jet, avoir des ressentis des nombreux voyageurs du site..je suis une "modeste" voyageuse, j'aimerai partir plus souvent mais pour l'instant mes contraintes financières sont là et mes enfants , jeunes ados passent en priorité!!mais plus tard je rêve de partir partir et partir!! J'aimerai expérimenter le voyage seule mais je n'y suis pas encore prête, un voyage a deux ou plusieurs en Asie me rassurera probablement et par la suite j'irai là ou l'envie m’amènera...
Pour reprendre vos dires envers lesquels je me sens assez proche, je ne comprends pas ce que peut être un pays facile, j'ai juste besoin de moyen de transport, d’hébergement (chez l'habitant serait le mieux), le confort du séjour n'est pas une caractéristique que je mets en priorité!!je fais de la montagne et ai l'habitude de dormir un peu n'importe où!!parcontre m'importe surtout la qualité du contact avec les locaux des pays, celà pour moi est primordiale et une richesse..en tous cas c'est cela que je recherche, vivre et partager , progresser, avancer ...dans un contexte nouveau, déroutant, à apprivoiser... Je vais plutôt fuir les endroits touristiques c'est dans mon tempérament , et vais revenir à mon idée première de pays avant que cela ne devienne partout Nord et sud, rempli de touristes"consommateurs" Bien à vous et merci Laurence
Bonsoir,
Je ne suis jamais allé en Birmanie donc n'en dirai rien . Par contre j'habite en Thaïlande depuis un peu plus de dix ans et encore un peu plus d' années au Vietnam, mais ça, c’était avant ..😉 Suis allé plus d'une fois au Laos, Vientiane, la capitale et le nord du pays , Luang Prabang, Sayaburi .. Je ne connais pas le sud .
Quant a la Thaïlande, je la parcours toute l’année ; ne suis jamais allé tout au sud a la frontière avec la Malaisie .
Pour faire simple, suivant vos desiderata financiers, la Thaïlande est relativement moins chère que le Laos ; autre point qui me parait important, en cas de pépin de santé, mieux vaut être en Thaïlande qu' au Laos ou les vrais hôpitaux sont extrêmement rares . Même a Luang Prabang, je n' appelle pas cela un hôpital moderne . Et puis question nourriture, y a pas photo, comme on dit, entre la Thaïlande et le Laos ; Mon humble avis , ne valant peut-être pas grand chose, on ne mange pas vraiment bien au Laos .
Par contre il vous sera difficile d'aller coucher chez l'habitant; ce sont des choses qui ne se font pas . Et meme dans certains pays si les indigenes acceptent de vous heberger et qu'ils sont denonces par des voisins, ils risquent au minimum une grosse apres midi au commissariat du coin pour un recadrage et au pire quelques jours de prison . J' ai connu cela au Vietnam dans les annees 80-90 ; Pour le reste, eviter les endroits tres touristiques sera tres difficile si vous ne parlez pas la/les langue(s) locale(s) ; En Thailande, des que vous sortez de l'autoroute touristique, personne ou presque ne parle une autre langue que le thai ou le lao ( issan-lao ) ; Attention dans les transports en commun; evitez dans la mesure du possible les minibus; chaque jour ou nuit nous apporte de tristes nouvelles car leurs conducteurs kamikaze .... C'est guere mieux avec les autocars de ligne; c'est malheureux a dire et a ecrire mais c'est ainsi; la Thailande a le tres triste privilege d'etre number two pour le nombre de morts sur la route par rapport au nombre d'habitants .
Je ne suis jamais allé en Birmanie donc n'en dirai rien . Par contre j'habite en Thaïlande depuis un peu plus de dix ans et encore un peu plus d' années au Vietnam, mais ça, c’était avant ..😉 Suis allé plus d'une fois au Laos, Vientiane, la capitale et le nord du pays , Luang Prabang, Sayaburi .. Je ne connais pas le sud .
Quant a la Thaïlande, je la parcours toute l’année ; ne suis jamais allé tout au sud a la frontière avec la Malaisie .
Pour faire simple, suivant vos desiderata financiers, la Thaïlande est relativement moins chère que le Laos ; autre point qui me parait important, en cas de pépin de santé, mieux vaut être en Thaïlande qu' au Laos ou les vrais hôpitaux sont extrêmement rares . Même a Luang Prabang, je n' appelle pas cela un hôpital moderne . Et puis question nourriture, y a pas photo, comme on dit, entre la Thaïlande et le Laos ; Mon humble avis , ne valant peut-être pas grand chose, on ne mange pas vraiment bien au Laos .
Par contre il vous sera difficile d'aller coucher chez l'habitant; ce sont des choses qui ne se font pas . Et meme dans certains pays si les indigenes acceptent de vous heberger et qu'ils sont denonces par des voisins, ils risquent au minimum une grosse apres midi au commissariat du coin pour un recadrage et au pire quelques jours de prison . J' ai connu cela au Vietnam dans les annees 80-90 ; Pour le reste, eviter les endroits tres touristiques sera tres difficile si vous ne parlez pas la/les langue(s) locale(s) ; En Thailande, des que vous sortez de l'autoroute touristique, personne ou presque ne parle une autre langue que le thai ou le lao ( issan-lao ) ; Attention dans les transports en commun; evitez dans la mesure du possible les minibus; chaque jour ou nuit nous apporte de tristes nouvelles car leurs conducteurs kamikaze .... C'est guere mieux avec les autocars de ligne; c'est malheureux a dire et a ecrire mais c'est ainsi; la Thailande a le tres triste privilege d'etre number two pour le nombre de morts sur la route par rapport au nombre d'habitants .
Le socialisme ne peut fonctionner qu’au paradis où il n’est pas utile, et en enfer où ils l’ont déjà
B🙂njour Laurence,
Merci de votre intérêt.
Nul besoin de confronter vos opinions
euh, je dirais plutôt <échanger> nos opinions
on s'en moque!
Oups, c'est sympa...mon seul but: renseigner/nourrir le fil, à votre intention en premier chef, à ses lecteurs, muets et intervenants, aussi.
J'ai été agréablement surprise de voir toutes ces interventions toutes bienveillantes!!
C'est sensé être l'esprit de VF.A qu🤪i feriez-vous allusion?! LoL
je suis une "modeste" voyageuse
Mêêêê comme chacun sur VF, je crois.Les "Illustres" sont ailleurs, ne comparons pas nos "petits" voyages qui s'inquiètent des , , , ou autres avec des Expéditions, des Aventures extra ordinaires.
J'aimerai expérimenter le voyage seule mais je n'y suis pas encore prête, un voyage a deux ou plusieurs en Asie me rassurera probablement et par la suite j'irai là ou l'envie m’amènera...
En voilà une info, en tous cas pour moi, qui éclaire et même redéfinit votre projet.Voyager en solo et voyager à plusieurs ne sont la plupart du temps pas le même, en termes d'expérience, opportunités, conditions de séjour etc...J'avoue que vous me plongez dans l' "incertitude" sinon la perplexité, du coup.
Pour reprendre vos dires envers lesquels je me sens assez proche, je ne comprends pas ce que peut être un pays facile
selon moi, en lien avec : accueil de la population, environnement politique (libre circulation, libertés individuelles..), infrastructures (transports, hébergements..), climat, niveau de vie ....
J'ai juste besoin... d'hébergement (chez l'habitant serait le mieux)
comme déjà dit je crois, dormir chez l'habitant n'est pas dans les us&coutumes de ces 3 Pays, surtout si vous voyagez à plusieurs.Je ne dis pas pour autant que ce soit impossible, notamment dans les Capitales (via couchsurfing par exemple), mais rarement "spontanément", suite à une rencontre "au détour d'une rue ou à l'orée d'un champ", comme par exemple au Maroc, que vous avez déjà visité, il me semble.
m'importe surtout la qualité du contact avec les locaux des pays, celà pour moi est primordiale et une richesse..en tous cas c'est cela que je recherche, vivre et partager , progresser, avancer ...dans un contexte nouveau, déroutant, à apprivoiser...
Je comprends bien, c'est l'idéal, la "quête", je crois, de beaucoup de voyageurs.Je pense là qu'on touche la (merveilleuse) part d'inconnu, de kharmique/providentiel d'un voyage.Ceci dit, la barrière linguistique, sociale, la pudeur, la "connexion" et autres "appauvrissent" souvent la rencontre, l'échange, en tous cas peuvent "décevoir" ceux qui la/le "fantasment".Mais bon, encore une fois, tout dépend de ses aptitudes&"attentes" personnelles, quand on y met son cœur: tout est ouvert et infini, n'est-ce pas?
Je vais plutôt fuir les endroits touristiques c'est dans mon tempérament et vais revenir à mon idée première de pays avant que cela ne devienne partout Nord et sud, rempli de touristes"consommateurs"
Le hors-piste et la rencontre peuvent tout à fait s'envisager dans n'importe quel pays et même ville.C'est affaire de tempérament et d'ouverture des chakras.Bienvenue sur terre(s) de tous les possibles!!!
En espérant vous inspirer, Laurence.
Cdlt,
Yell😉wmop.
Merci de votre intérêt.
Nul besoin de confronter vos opinions
euh, je dirais plutôt <échanger> nos opinions
on s'en moque!
Oups, c'est sympa...mon seul but: renseigner/nourrir le fil, à votre intention en premier chef, à ses lecteurs, muets et intervenants, aussi.
J'ai été agréablement surprise de voir toutes ces interventions toutes bienveillantes!!
C'est sensé être l'esprit de VF.A qu🤪i feriez-vous allusion?! LoL
je suis une "modeste" voyageuse
Mêêêê comme chacun sur VF, je crois.Les "Illustres" sont ailleurs, ne comparons pas nos "petits" voyages qui s'inquiètent des , , , ou autres avec des Expéditions, des Aventures extra ordinaires.
J'aimerai expérimenter le voyage seule mais je n'y suis pas encore prête, un voyage a deux ou plusieurs en Asie me rassurera probablement et par la suite j'irai là ou l'envie m’amènera...
En voilà une info, en tous cas pour moi, qui éclaire et même redéfinit votre projet.Voyager en solo et voyager à plusieurs ne sont la plupart du temps pas le même, en termes d'expérience, opportunités, conditions de séjour etc...J'avoue que vous me plongez dans l' "incertitude" sinon la perplexité, du coup.
Pour reprendre vos dires envers lesquels je me sens assez proche, je ne comprends pas ce que peut être un pays facile
selon moi, en lien avec : accueil de la population, environnement politique (libre circulation, libertés individuelles..), infrastructures (transports, hébergements..), climat, niveau de vie ....
J'ai juste besoin... d'hébergement (chez l'habitant serait le mieux)
comme déjà dit je crois, dormir chez l'habitant n'est pas dans les us&coutumes de ces 3 Pays, surtout si vous voyagez à plusieurs.Je ne dis pas pour autant que ce soit impossible, notamment dans les Capitales (via couchsurfing par exemple), mais rarement "spontanément", suite à une rencontre "au détour d'une rue ou à l'orée d'un champ", comme par exemple au Maroc, que vous avez déjà visité, il me semble.
m'importe surtout la qualité du contact avec les locaux des pays, celà pour moi est primordiale et une richesse..en tous cas c'est cela que je recherche, vivre et partager , progresser, avancer ...dans un contexte nouveau, déroutant, à apprivoiser...
Je comprends bien, c'est l'idéal, la "quête", je crois, de beaucoup de voyageurs.Je pense là qu'on touche la (merveilleuse) part d'inconnu, de kharmique/providentiel d'un voyage.Ceci dit, la barrière linguistique, sociale, la pudeur, la "connexion" et autres "appauvrissent" souvent la rencontre, l'échange, en tous cas peuvent "décevoir" ceux qui la/le "fantasment".Mais bon, encore une fois, tout dépend de ses aptitudes&"attentes" personnelles, quand on y met son cœur: tout est ouvert et infini, n'est-ce pas?
Je vais plutôt fuir les endroits touristiques c'est dans mon tempérament et vais revenir à mon idée première de pays avant que cela ne devienne partout Nord et sud, rempli de touristes"consommateurs"
Le hors-piste et la rencontre peuvent tout à fait s'envisager dans n'importe quel pays et même ville.C'est affaire de tempérament et d'ouverture des chakras.Bienvenue sur terre(s) de tous les possibles!!!
En espérant vous inspirer, Laurence.
Cdlt,
Yell😉wmop.
Bonjour
Je note plusieurs souhaits et contraintes vous concernant, et je me permets de contribuer à vos réflexions :
Les trois pays (Thaïlande, Birmanie et Laos) sont bien, quoique j'ai une légère préférence pour la Birmanie (notamment la gentillesse des gens). Vous êtes enseignante et vous ne pouvez partir qu'en été (juillet / août) ? Ce serait dommage, car cette période n'est guère favorable en ce qui concerne le climat (chaleur humide), pluviométrie accentuée (ou carrément pluies diluviennes dans certains endroits) : pas top pour une première découverte de l'Asie du Sud-Est. Serait il possible pour vous de ménager 2 semaines la deuxième quinzaine de décembre (c'est une période de vacances scolaires également) ? Certes, c'est plus court, mais vous allez sans doute aimer cette région de l'Asie et éprouver le plaisir d'y revenir plusieurs fois : équation effectivement difficile à résoudre.
Quelques ordres de grandeur budgétaire :
Pour moins de 5 € par repas (déjeuner ou dîner), vous pouvez manger fort correctement dans ces 3 pays, bien sûr dans des échoppes populaires. Il se pourrait que la Birmanie reste plus cher sur la boisson (j'y étais en novembre - décembre 2009, les choses ont peut-être évolué depuis).
Je suis originaire du Vietnam, j'ai vécu en Thaïlande pendant 4 ans, voyagé plusieurs fois en Asie du Sud-Est : la cuisine Thai est de loin la meilleure parmi les 3 pays que vous envisagés (ex aequo avec le Viet qui ne figure pas dans votre pré-sélection), suivi du Laos et la Birmanie.
Le Laos m'a apparu le moins cher en hébergement. J'ai été dans la région des Plateaux des Bolovens et région des 4000 îles (très chouettes toutes les 2) en décembre 2011, et j'ai payé pour notre couple 30 € par nuit (sans chercher le low cost).
Il vous reste sans doute du temps pour approfondir vos réflexions, alors continuez votre consultation pour affiner votre choix.
Voici 2 diaporamas pour vous donner une idée sur le paysage et l'atmosphère concernant la Birmanie et le Laos
Birmanie pendant 13 jours vers novembre - décembre 2009 (j'avoue que je me suis offert un extra budgétaire à Bagan avec le survol en montgolfière) : https://youtu.be/smWkHfbkvXs Laos : premier tiers du diaporama concerne la région de Luang Prabang au Nord (une semaine en avril 2004) puis le reste, que je vous conseille si vous optiez pour le Laos, concerne la région des Plateaux des Bolovens et la région des 4000 îles, moins de 12 jours vers décembre 2011 : https://youtu.be/UXYq46nzPX4
Pour votre information, j'aime faire des photos et j'ai plutôt l'habitude de prendre mon temps à traîner ...
Bonne réflexion et bonne préparation.
Je note plusieurs souhaits et contraintes vous concernant, et je me permets de contribuer à vos réflexions :
Les trois pays (Thaïlande, Birmanie et Laos) sont bien, quoique j'ai une légère préférence pour la Birmanie (notamment la gentillesse des gens). Vous êtes enseignante et vous ne pouvez partir qu'en été (juillet / août) ? Ce serait dommage, car cette période n'est guère favorable en ce qui concerne le climat (chaleur humide), pluviométrie accentuée (ou carrément pluies diluviennes dans certains endroits) : pas top pour une première découverte de l'Asie du Sud-Est. Serait il possible pour vous de ménager 2 semaines la deuxième quinzaine de décembre (c'est une période de vacances scolaires également) ? Certes, c'est plus court, mais vous allez sans doute aimer cette région de l'Asie et éprouver le plaisir d'y revenir plusieurs fois : équation effectivement difficile à résoudre.
Quelques ordres de grandeur budgétaire :
Pour moins de 5 € par repas (déjeuner ou dîner), vous pouvez manger fort correctement dans ces 3 pays, bien sûr dans des échoppes populaires. Il se pourrait que la Birmanie reste plus cher sur la boisson (j'y étais en novembre - décembre 2009, les choses ont peut-être évolué depuis).
Je suis originaire du Vietnam, j'ai vécu en Thaïlande pendant 4 ans, voyagé plusieurs fois en Asie du Sud-Est : la cuisine Thai est de loin la meilleure parmi les 3 pays que vous envisagés (ex aequo avec le Viet qui ne figure pas dans votre pré-sélection), suivi du Laos et la Birmanie.
Le Laos m'a apparu le moins cher en hébergement. J'ai été dans la région des Plateaux des Bolovens et région des 4000 îles (très chouettes toutes les 2) en décembre 2011, et j'ai payé pour notre couple 30 € par nuit (sans chercher le low cost).
Il vous reste sans doute du temps pour approfondir vos réflexions, alors continuez votre consultation pour affiner votre choix.
Voici 2 diaporamas pour vous donner une idée sur le paysage et l'atmosphère concernant la Birmanie et le Laos
Birmanie pendant 13 jours vers novembre - décembre 2009 (j'avoue que je me suis offert un extra budgétaire à Bagan avec le survol en montgolfière) : https://youtu.be/smWkHfbkvXs Laos : premier tiers du diaporama concerne la région de Luang Prabang au Nord (une semaine en avril 2004) puis le reste, que je vous conseille si vous optiez pour le Laos, concerne la région des Plateaux des Bolovens et la région des 4000 îles, moins de 12 jours vers décembre 2011 : https://youtu.be/UXYq46nzPX4
Pour votre information, j'aime faire des photos et j'ai plutôt l'habitude de prendre mon temps à traîner ...
Bonne réflexion et bonne préparation.
quanito
galerie photos : https://www.flickr.com/photos/quanito/albums/
On en connaît même certains ici qui sont allés à plusieurs reprises en Asie et qui n'ont posé les pieds qu'à Pattaya.😐 C'est la référence en Thailande et en Asie... pour les touristes en manque de sensations fortes dans leur pays.
En tout cas, c'est très intelligent de conseiller cette destination à une fille 😕 Elle pourra se faire des copines sur place 😏
+1 😎
faire 15h d'avion pour aller a Pattaya, ça fait rêver 🤪
Au moins ds les années 70 il y avait pleins de beaux GI en permission, c'était fun 😊
Photos commentées voyages et montagne : http://christian.aude.free.fr
Carnets de voyages en images : Bornéo 2025 (Brunei et Malaisie), Sumba 2024, Papouasie 2022, Vietnam 2019, Moluques 2018, Sulawesi 2016, Philippines 1984 (eh oui ! ) .
Carnets de voyages en images : Bornéo 2025 (Brunei et Malaisie), Sumba 2024, Papouasie 2022, Vietnam 2019, Moluques 2018, Sulawesi 2016, Philippines 1984 (eh oui ! ) .
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Un vietnamien qui aurait aimer placer une petite phrase concernant son business local mais qui, là, ne peut pas ; on ne parle pas de son pays ... 🙂 🙂
Pattaya/Jomtien c'est spécial; ne quand même pas oublier que des dizaines de milliers de thaïlandais y vont régulièrement en WE ; c'est la plage la plus proche de Bangkok ( avec Cha Am de l'autre cote du golfe de Thaïlande .)
Pas nécessaire d'aller a Pattaya pour sa beach road et Walking Street ; Ibiza ou même Mons , en Belgique , sont des destinations comparables ...
Pattaya/Jomtien c'est spécial; ne quand même pas oublier que des dizaines de milliers de thaïlandais y vont régulièrement en WE ; c'est la plage la plus proche de Bangkok ( avec Cha Am de l'autre cote du golfe de Thaïlande .)
Pas nécessaire d'aller a Pattaya pour sa beach road et Walking Street ; Ibiza ou même Mons , en Belgique , sont des destinations comparables ...
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Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
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Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!