Des manifestations contre les occidentaux, américains, européens, ont lieux pratiquement tous jours pour protester du transfert de l'ambassade américaine à Jérusalem. Un ami qui est arrivé à Jakarta mercredi dernier à du être exfiltré de son hôtel pour aller directement à l'aéroport et partir. Arrivée dans son hôtel en début d’après midi, des centaines de manifestants ce sont agglutinés devant son hôtel en criant à mort tous ce qui est pas musulman. Il avait pris un tour organisé par une agence local, d'autres étrangers était avec lui et ses amis, le guide les à plantés dans l’hôtel puis il est parti en disant que çà devenait dangereux et les a planter la. Il a appelé l'ambassade de France, on leurs a demandé de se préparer à évacuer l’hôtel, lui ses amis et tous les étrangers, un bus est arrivée (organisé par l'ambassade de France) quand ils ont quitté le parking de l’hôtel le bus a été caillassé malgres la police qui escortait le bus. Arrivée à l'aéroport on leur a demandé d'acheter un billet pour une destination de leur choix, lui et ses amis sont partis pour Taïwan. Ils se sont retrouvés à plus de 400 touristes à l'aéroport ont été sommé de partir. Ce qui est incroyable est que personne en parle dans les journaux ni à la télé, a part ce matin un kamikaze qui c'est fait explosé devant une église.🙁
Gros problèmes avec les touristes en Indonésie (13 mai 2018)
by Patrick91230
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Des manifestations contre les occidentaux, américains, européens, ont lieux pratiquement tous jours pour protester du transfert de l'ambassade américaine à Jérusalem. Un ami qui est arrivé à Jakarta mercredi dernier à du être exfiltré de son hôtel pour aller directement à l'aéroport et partir. Arrivée dans son hôtel en début d’après midi, des centaines de manifestants ce sont agglutinés devant son hôtel en criant à mort tous ce qui est pas musulman. Il avait pris un tour organisé par une agence local, d'autres étrangers était avec lui et ses amis, le guide les à plantés dans l’hôtel puis il est parti en disant que çà devenait dangereux et les a planter la. Il a appelé l'ambassade de France, on leurs a demandé de se préparer à évacuer l’hôtel, lui ses amis et tous les étrangers, un bus est arrivée (organisé par l'ambassade de France) quand ils ont quitté le parking de l’hôtel le bus a été caillassé malgres la police qui escortait le bus. Arrivée à l'aéroport on leur a demandé d'acheter un billet pour une destination de leur choix, lui et ses amis sont partis pour Taïwan. Ils se sont retrouvés à plus de 400 touristes à l'aéroport ont été sommé de partir. Ce qui est incroyable est que personne en parle dans les journaux ni à la télé, a part ce matin un kamikaze qui c'est fait explosé devant une église.🙁
Des manifestations contre les occidentaux, américains, européens, ont lieux pratiquement tous jours pour protester du transfert de l'ambassade américaine à Jérusalem. Un ami qui est arrivé à Jakarta mercredi dernier à du être exfiltré de son hôtel pour aller directement à l'aéroport et partir. Arrivée dans son hôtel en début d’après midi, des centaines de manifestants ce sont agglutinés devant son hôtel en criant à mort tous ce qui est pas musulman. Il avait pris un tour organisé par une agence local, d'autres étrangers était avec lui et ses amis, le guide les à plantés dans l’hôtel puis il est parti en disant que çà devenait dangereux et les a planter la. Il a appelé l'ambassade de France, on leurs a demandé de se préparer à évacuer l’hôtel, lui ses amis et tous les étrangers, un bus est arrivée (organisé par l'ambassade de France) quand ils ont quitté le parking de l’hôtel le bus a été caillassé malgres la police qui escortait le bus. Arrivée à l'aéroport on leur a demandé d'acheter un billet pour une destination de leur choix, lui et ses amis sont partis pour Taïwan. Ils se sont retrouvés à plus de 400 touristes à l'aéroport ont été sommé de partir. Ce qui est incroyable est que personne en parle dans les journaux ni à la télé, a part ce matin un kamikaze qui c'est fait explosé devant une église.🙁
Cordialement,
Patrick.
merci pour les infos c'est inquiétant 😕
Wow, impressionnant.
Merci pour l'info.
Sais-tu dans quel quartier se situait cet hôtel ?
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
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J 'étais à JKT hier pas eu d'ennuis, pas vu l'ombre d'un barbu ! Mais aucune raison de ne pas croire ces témoignages à priori ... Par contre prudence toute de même : que la presse locale ne relaye pas ce genre d'info c'est normal, qu'on ne trouve rien sur le site de diplomatie.fr c'est plus étrange ...
En tout cas j'ai eu des ennuis de ce type en 2001 - 2003, avec menaces de mort par égorgement à plusieurs reprises, en pleine rue. Bref, c'était très chaud. Mais on pouvait encore aller voir les mecs et s'expliquer ...
3 attaques simultanées contre des églises dimanche, une ce matin contre des flics et les événements de la semaine dernière en prison ( lapas Brimob Depok ) où 5 flics ont été exécutés par des terroristes !!!
ça pue !!!
Et avec le massacre d'aujourd'hui à Gaza ça va empirer ... + nombreuses élections à risques en juin !!
ça fait des années que le gouvernement caresse les islamistes dans le sens du poil, le voilà le résultat ... Prenez tous bien soin de vous et soyez vigilants
L'Année de tous les dangers
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Merci pour cette info très utile .
L'Année de tous les dangers
Je ne vois pas le rapport. Ah si, c'est le même pays. 🤪
Je ne vois pas le rapport. Ah si, c'est le même pays. 🤪
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Elle est tout de même bizarre cette histoire. Les Islamistes qui attaquent un hôtel et qui crient qu'ils veulent la mort de tout ce qui n'est pas musulman ... Déjà si la personne qui relate cet incident voyage en tour organisé elle ne doit pas comprendre le bahasa, alors d'où peut-elle comprendre des slogans pareils ? Ensuite pas un mot sur le site diplomatie.fr alors qu'il y a clairement danger de mort ... Et puis ces 400 touristes sommés de quitter l'Indonésie par les autorités alors que le lendemain d'autres occidentaux continuaient d'arriver ...
Je ne dis pas qu'il n'y a pas de tarés radicalisés en Indonésie, je ne dis pas que ce qui est relaté ici est impossible, je ne dis pas que la frontière entre les terroristes et les islamistes ayant pignon sur rue est claire et nette, mais le récit est assez confus, on se croirait dans le très mauvais film avec Owen Wilson : " no escape " ...
Bref, ce serait bien que l'ami de Pierre vienne nous raconter directement ce qui lui est arrivé ...
salut Momo
C'est bizarre j'étais en Indonésie d'avril jusqu'au 7 mai. Je n'ai rien entendu. Je suis resté à Bogor, suis passé à Jakarta pour 1 journée. Mes amis ne m'ont rien rapporté. Aucune nouvelle sur le Jkt Globe. Je vais demander à d'autres amis, toujours bien informés en précisant......mais ils m'en auraient parlé....
Il y a 5 attentats à Sby et autour. Il faut s'y attendre tant que le gouvernement ne frappe pas d'une main de fer les groupes radicaux mais le problème est qu'ils ont des complicités parmi les ennemis politiques de Jokowi. Ca grince des dents depuis le virage de Jokowi pour se rapprocher de la Chine et un gros bonnet du Parlement est en prison pour corruption avérée (traffic de faux papiers). Momo tu as des news sur cette dernière info? cela m'a été rapportée par le propriétaire indo de ma guesthouse à Jogja (à ce sujet superbe trouvaille je te filerai l'adresse)
C'est bizarre j'étais en Indonésie d'avril jusqu'au 7 mai. Je n'ai rien entendu. Je suis resté à Bogor, suis passé à Jakarta pour 1 journée. Mes amis ne m'ont rien rapporté. Aucune nouvelle sur le Jkt Globe. Je vais demander à d'autres amis, toujours bien informés en précisant......mais ils m'en auraient parlé....
Il y a 5 attentats à Sby et autour. Il faut s'y attendre tant que le gouvernement ne frappe pas d'une main de fer les groupes radicaux mais le problème est qu'ils ont des complicités parmi les ennemis politiques de Jokowi. Ca grince des dents depuis le virage de Jokowi pour se rapprocher de la Chine et un gros bonnet du Parlement est en prison pour corruption avérée (traffic de faux papiers). Momo tu as des news sur cette dernière info? cela m'a été rapportée par le propriétaire indo de ma guesthouse à Jogja (à ce sujet superbe trouvaille je te filerai l'adresse)
Non ! Mais j'ai suivi l'affaire Habib Rizieq, le leader du FPI, la milice islamiste ... Il était en Arabie Saoudite depuis un an, pour échapper à la justice. Son affaire - un infraction à la loi anti-pornographie à laquelle les types comme lui ont contribué - vient d'être classée ... Il va sûrement bientôt rentrer et vu l'excité que c'est ce n'est pas une bonne nouvelle pour le pays ...
Le gouvernement est impitoyable avec les groupes terroristes, mais plutôt coulant avec ceux qui répandent la haine. Regarde la réaction du FPI après les attentats : " attention à ne pas nous confondre avec les terroristes " ... Leur seule préoccupation c'est celle-ci, d'être confondus. Aucune condamnation forte et surtout pas de condoléances aux proches des victimes. Et après ça ils continuent à réclamer l'application de la Charia en Indonésie ... Mais faut pas que les chrétiens s'inquiètent, promettent-ils, on les traitera bien. Mais oui ... On vous croit les gars ! 🤪
Le gouvernement est impitoyable avec les groupes terroristes, mais plutôt coulant avec ceux qui répandent la haine. Regarde la réaction du FPI après les attentats : " attention à ne pas nous confondre avec les terroristes " ... Leur seule préoccupation c'est celle-ci, d'être confondus. Aucune condamnation forte et surtout pas de condoléances aux proches des victimes. Et après ça ils continuent à réclamer l'application de la Charia en Indonésie ... Mais faut pas que les chrétiens s'inquiètent, promettent-ils, on les traitera bien. Mais oui ... On vous croit les gars ! 🤪
dans mon entourage
personne n'a entendu parler de cette histoire et il n'y a rien sr la Gazette de Bali.
Justement tout à l'heure, l'une de mes amies qui est chrétienne me disait être choquée par l'indifférence de ses amis musulmans, aucune compassion et personne n'en a parlé sur les groupes Whatsapp où elle est inscrite. Ca l'a dégoûté et lui a ouvert les yeux sur ses soi-disants amis
Justement tout à l'heure, l'une de mes amies qui est chrétienne me disait être choquée par l'indifférence de ses amis musulmans, aucune compassion et personne n'en a parlé sur les groupes Whatsapp où elle est inscrite. Ca l'a dégoûté et lui a ouvert les yeux sur ses soi-disants amis
J'ai tout de même vu et lu quelques réactions indignées. Mais ça n'a aucune valeur statistique, of course ...
Pour la Gazette ils n'ont pas non plus parlé de ce qui s'est passé à la prison de Depok et qui a pourtant retenu l'attention des médias indonésiens pendant toute une semaine. On dirait qu'ils tournent un peu au ralenti en ce moment.
Bonjour, j'ai parler avec plusieurs amis et famille à Jakarta, amis qui travail au ambassade , Cretienne et musulmanes, personne à attendue ou parler de 400 touristes qui devraient partir. Depuis dimanche il y n'as pas de changements ou manifestations ou autres à Jakarta. Plusieurs grandes organisations musulmans ont dit qu'ils ont contre ce bombing et qu'ils pensent au victime s en présentant leur condoléances au famille chrétienne.
A mon avis cette histoire est au moins bizarre!!
Bonjour,
Moi j'ai juste parlé au téléphone avec mon ami et j'entendais les cris dehors à travers son téléphone. J'ai pas besoin d'avoir des amis aux ambassades pour savoir ce qu'il c'est passé, je l'ai entendu en directe. Je l'ai eu encore au téléphone quand ils étaient à l'aéroport pour partir du pays lui et ses amis et je confirme que plus, de 400 touristes sont partis en mème temps que lui vers diverses destinations. Après on peut croire ou pas croire ou je ne sais quoi, c'est pas mon problème.😉
Moi j'ai juste parlé au téléphone avec mon ami et j'entendais les cris dehors à travers son téléphone. J'ai pas besoin d'avoir des amis aux ambassades pour savoir ce qu'il c'est passé, je l'ai entendu en directe. Je l'ai eu encore au téléphone quand ils étaient à l'aéroport pour partir du pays lui et ses amis et je confirme que plus, de 400 touristes sont partis en mème temps que lui vers diverses destinations. Après on peut croire ou pas croire ou je ne sais quoi, c'est pas mon problème.😉
Cordialement,
Patrick.
400 touristes en même temps
ça ne passe pas inaperçu dans un aéroport
et il faut au moins 4 bus pour les transporter.
Avez vous la date précise?
Avez vous la date précise?
Est ce que les touristes ont acheter et payé eux même les nouveaux billets ou c'était remboursé par l'ambassade?
Les gouvernement indonésien fait tout pour développer le Tourisme sur les différentes îles. Mettre 400 touristes dehors c'est exactement le contraire de ce que le gouvernement veut.
Et ils leur auraient proposé d'aller à Bali.
Et le lendemain il aurait empêché d'autres touristes d'entrer.
Et les ambassades préviendraient les voyageurs .....
En tout cas si c'est vrai et que l'ambassade ne dit rien c'est sacrément léger !
Cette histoire est presque fait pour faire peur au touristes et ce sera encore les innocents qui vont souffrir. Et pas seulement les chrétiens, mais surtout aussi les millions de musulmans qui sont pas du tout d'accord avec tout ce violences. Et qui vivent depuis des siècles ensemble avec tout les religions et ethniques. J'espère les indonésiens reste ouvert pour les autre pays et qu'on peut vivre ensemble.
Bonjour actuellement à Bali, je comptais me rendre sur le volcan ijen à l'est de Java. Pensez vous qu'il y ait le moindre risque de sécurité?
Le risque zéro n'existe pas, donc il est toujours délicat de dire " allez-y c'est sans problème " ... Mais non, je ne pense pas que tu coures le moindre risque. Moi en tout cas j'irais là-bas sans la moindre crainte ...
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Nouvelle attaque contre un poste de police à Sumatra ce matin à 4 h du matin heure française ... Quelques blessés ( + 3 terroristes tués ). Hé bah, ils sont en forme en ce moment ces tarés 🏴☠️ http://www.europe1.fr/international/indonesie-un-poste-de-police-attaque-trois-assaillants-tues-3653642
Nouvelle attaque contre un poste de police à Sumatra ce matin à 4 h du matin heure française ... Quelques blessés ( + 3 terroristes tués ). Hé bah, ils sont en forme en ce moment ces tarés 🏴☠️ http://www.europe1.fr/international/indonesie-un-poste-de-police-attaque-trois-assaillants-tues-3653642
Sylvia
Ca me semble gros cette histoire déplacer 400 touristes en même temps à Jakarta, ça ne passerait pas inaperçu et tu imagines ensuite à l'aéroport la cohue que ça pourrait engendrer. Les Indonésiens se parlent tout le temps et ça se saurait vite. Sans parler de la logistique pour acheminer 400 personnes du centre jusqu'à l'hôtel. Il faut affrêter 4 à 5 bus
Ensuite il faut trouver des places dans les avions
Il y a encore eu une attaque contre un poste de police à Riau, les 3 assaillants ont été tués mais aussi un policier. Une cellule dormante a été démantelée à Tangerang aujourd'hui.
Il faut que les Indonesiens se soudent derrière leur président mais j'ai des doutes car des forces de l'ombre oeuvrent en sous-main. Prabowo vient d'annoncer sa candidature aux prochaines élections. On sait que celui-ci s'est rapproché des groupes fanatiques et que lui et ses amis oligarques les ont utilisés contre Ahok l'an dernier..... Ce qui se passe en ce moment a pour but d'affaiblir Jokowi.
Le problème est que ces dernières années, les gouvernements successifs ont laissé proliférer ces groupes fanatiques de courant wahhabiste qui surfent sur la pauvreté et le manque d'éducation, c'est très dangereux pour l'archipel aux multiples ethnies, une richesse mais aussi une faiblesse en cas de paupérisation de la population
Ca me semble gros cette histoire déplacer 400 touristes en même temps à Jakarta, ça ne passerait pas inaperçu et tu imagines ensuite à l'aéroport la cohue que ça pourrait engendrer. Les Indonésiens se parlent tout le temps et ça se saurait vite. Sans parler de la logistique pour acheminer 400 personnes du centre jusqu'à l'hôtel. Il faut affrêter 4 à 5 bus
Ensuite il faut trouver des places dans les avions
Il y a encore eu une attaque contre un poste de police à Riau, les 3 assaillants ont été tués mais aussi un policier. Une cellule dormante a été démantelée à Tangerang aujourd'hui.
Il faut que les Indonesiens se soudent derrière leur président mais j'ai des doutes car des forces de l'ombre oeuvrent en sous-main. Prabowo vient d'annoncer sa candidature aux prochaines élections. On sait que celui-ci s'est rapproché des groupes fanatiques et que lui et ses amis oligarques les ont utilisés contre Ahok l'an dernier..... Ce qui se passe en ce moment a pour but d'affaiblir Jokowi.
Le problème est que ces dernières années, les gouvernements successifs ont laissé proliférer ces groupes fanatiques de courant wahhabiste qui surfent sur la pauvreté et le manque d'éducation, c'est très dangereux pour l'archipel aux multiples ethnies, une richesse mais aussi une faiblesse en cas de paupérisation de la population
Et au-delà du risque direct que les attaques font courir aux gens, il ne faut pas oublier que tous les chrétiens de l'archipel ne sont pas forcément du genre à tendre l'autre joue ...
Rien entendu par rapport à ces touristes qui auraient quitté le territoire..
Wait and see.
tu penses aux Batak Toba, aux Dayaks et aux Moluquois?
Oui, au Kalimantan dans certains coins c'est tendu ... Depuis dimanche ma femme - qui est dans son bled - n'arrête pas d'entendre ou de lire des horreurs ... Ce matin une bonne femme lui a sorti texto que ce que les musulmans faisaient aux chrétiens à Java, eux, les Dayaks, ils allaient le faire aux musulmans de Bornéo, comme ça, les yeux dans les yeux, des menaces de mort en direct. Lundi, c'était des statuts sur les réseaux sociaux du genre : " mes frères, aiguisez les machettes " ... Bref ...
Ce n'est pas pour rien que le gouvernement multiplie les appels au calme et à l'unité.
J'ai cherché sur le net. Rien nulle part sur ce supposé "incident".
Bonjour Julien,
Je ne sais pas du tout comment l'ambiance est maintenant à Java. J'ai des amis à Yogjakarta et ils disent que c'est tranquille la bas , mais à Surabaya c'est differente biensur. Le volcan ijen est encore loin de Surabaya et je pense pas ils vont faire quelque choses la bas! Mais on ne peut rien garanti maintenant!
Je ne sais pas du tout comment l'ambiance est maintenant à Java. J'ai des amis à Yogjakarta et ils disent que c'est tranquille la bas , mais à Surabaya c'est differente biensur. Le volcan ijen est encore loin de Surabaya et je pense pas ils vont faire quelque choses la bas! Mais on ne peut rien garanti maintenant!
Bonjour Eric,
ça me fait vraiment la peine tout ça!! j'etais toujours très fier de pouvoir dire que mon pays a veçue tellement bien avec plusieurs réligions pendant des ciècles. C'est vrai il y à des millions muselmans qui sont protester contre cette violence et il y a plusieurs mille peut etre radicales qui gache pour tout le monde. Oui, on peut reagir avec la violence aussi mais peut-etre le gouvernement essaye aussi de reagir en 'douceur' pour eviter encore pire!! Je sais que on ne devrait pas nous laissé faire, mais pour chaque comportement il y a toujours les choses a contredire!! Moi je ne voulais pas être dans la place de JOKO!!!, mais on doit arreter les radicales et epargner les victimes qui sont souvent innocent.
ça me fait vraiment la peine tout ça!! j'etais toujours très fier de pouvoir dire que mon pays a veçue tellement bien avec plusieurs réligions pendant des ciècles. C'est vrai il y à des millions muselmans qui sont protester contre cette violence et il y a plusieurs mille peut etre radicales qui gache pour tout le monde. Oui, on peut reagir avec la violence aussi mais peut-etre le gouvernement essaye aussi de reagir en 'douceur' pour eviter encore pire!! Je sais que on ne devrait pas nous laissé faire, mais pour chaque comportement il y a toujours les choses a contredire!! Moi je ne voulais pas être dans la place de JOKO!!!, mais on doit arreter les radicales et epargner les victimes qui sont souvent innocent.
En tout cas ce post semble être inventé de toute part pour attiser la haine.
Des amis travaillant à l'ambassade confirment ne rien savoir, donc je ne sais pas quelle ambassade ces gens ont appelé mais ce n'était pas l ambassade française 😀
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Tout à fait d'accord avec Anne.
Garder le calme et la tête froide et espérer que les choses vont se calmer niveau des attentats.
Pas la peine d'inquiéter inutilement les voyageurs qui s'apprêtent à voyager en Indonésie.
Oui, je continue avec les préparations de mes voyages avec les français pour en octobre.
Et nous allons profiter de cet beau pays avec les gens très accueillant....les plus part en tout cas!!😉😊
Bonjour Anne,
Dans le cas d'une fake news (volontaire ou pas), lorsqu'au travers d'une discussion il est montré - sinon prouvé - que l'information est fausse ou erronée nous préférons laisser alors celle-ci en ligne. Car, trop souvent lorsqu'on supprime ce type de sujet, cela peut laisser croire à certains "qu'on veut cacher l'information en question"; ce qui du coup peut lui (re)donner une certaine vigueur.
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Malheureusement pour moi il n'y a pas les millions de gentils musulmans d'un côté et quelques centaines d'horribles fanatiques de l'autre. La frontière est moins nette ... Certains n'iront jamais se faire exploser dans des églises mais leurs idées n'en sont pas moins rétrogrades voire nauséabondes ... Tous les terroristes musulmans sont islamistes, mais tous les islamistes ne sont pas des terroristes. Cela ne les empêche pas à mon humble avis, d'être des gens très peu fréquentables ... Et puis il y a tous ces gens qui sans être islamistes sont complètement fermés de coeur et d'esprit à cause de leur croyance ...
Bien sûr, il y a aussi toutes celles et ceux qui vivent tranquillement et que ces agissements révoltent ...
Anne, merci pour ces précisions, si même le personnel de l'ambassade n'est pas au courant ça devient gênant ! 🤪
Anne, merci pour ces précisions, si même le personnel de l'ambassade n'est pas au courant ça devient gênant ! 🤪
Après on peut croire ou pas croire ou je ne sais quoi, c'est pas mon problème.
Personnellement je ne mets pas en doute tes affirmations mais c'est une info d'importance que tu relayes ici donc des compléments seraient bienvenus.
Alors je me répète mais... pourrais-tu lui demander dans quel quartier de Jakarta cela s'est produit, voire le nom de l'hôtel ?
Un petit mail à un ami, c’est vite fait !🙂
Personnellement je ne mets pas en doute tes affirmations mais c'est une info d'importance que tu relayes ici donc des compléments seraient bienvenus.
Alors je me répète mais... pourrais-tu lui demander dans quel quartier de Jakarta cela s'est produit, voire le nom de l'hôtel ?
Un petit mail à un ami, c’est vite fait !🙂
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Bsr,
Non , ils ont juste été emmené à l'aéroport et on du prendre un billet vers la destination de leurs choix, aucun remboursement n'est prévu. Je suis assez étonné des réactions que je lis ici entre doute et suspicion, ça ne serait pas si grave on en rigolerait. Je ne souhaite à personne de partir d'un pays avec la trouille au ventre.🙁
Non , ils ont juste été emmené à l'aéroport et on du prendre un billet vers la destination de leurs choix, aucun remboursement n'est prévu. Je suis assez étonné des réactions que je lis ici entre doute et suspicion, ça ne serait pas si grave on en rigolerait. Je ne souhaite à personne de partir d'un pays avec la trouille au ventre.🙁
Cordialement,
Patrick.
salut
je lui ai demandé la date et il n'a pas été fichu de me répondre il n'y a aucune info précise, ce n'est pas sérieux. comme je le disais : évacuer 400 touristes, ça ne passe pas inaperçu dans un aéroport, et idem 400 touristes dans le même hôtel.....A Jakarta pas la ville la plus touristique d'Asie
je lui ai demandé la date et il n'a pas été fichu de me répondre il n'y a aucune info précise, ce n'est pas sérieux. comme je le disais : évacuer 400 touristes, ça ne passe pas inaperçu dans un aéroport, et idem 400 touristes dans le même hôtel.....A Jakarta pas la ville la plus touristique d'Asie
Bah oui mais on parle tout de même d'un sacré truc ! Je ne vois pas pourquoi ton ami inventerait, mais il faut un récit des faits plus précis, étayé avec des dates, des noms de lieu etc
Toi tu as entendu des cris au téléphone, c'est tout ...
Ma tante disait avoir vécu ce genre de choses aux Maldives. Et puis en creusant un peu il s'est avéré que le seul truc qui leur est arrivé est d'avoir été bloqué par une manif en voulant aller à l'aéroport 🏴☠️ Bref ...
La grosse manif islamiste contre l'ambassade US à Jakarta ( le 10 mai ) s'est passée sans heurts ... Alors un lynchage d'étrangers, on a du mal à y croire ...
Oui, j'ai vraiment l'impression que c'était pour nous faire peur et ça a marché pour un petit moment pour moi !! 😠
Bonjour Fred, en résumé.... dans chaque pays il y a les gentils et les pas gentils du tout! Pour moi les violences n'as rien avoir avec les religions, mais avec la vie que tu mène. Avec le respect, les valeurs, éducation scolaire et éducation sociale etc. Il y a tellement des raisons pourquoi les gens tue une autre être humain ou animal! Combien des familles qui se faire tué car ils sont dans le problème financièrement ou conjugale ou autre raisons. Les voyages est pour moi justement pour faire connaître les autres cultures, les autres façon de vivre, les autres traditions. De savoir il y a beaucoup façons de vivre en on peut apprendre de l'une et l'autre. On a en France autant de problèmes que ailleurs !
Bonjour,
On a en France autant de problèmes que ailleurs !
Je trouve ça exaspérant ce relativisme moral qui voudrait que tout soit pareil partout.
Je pense que pour la démocratie, le respect des droits humains, l'étendue des inégalités sociales, la corruption, le fanatisme religieux, le racisme violent contre les minorités ethniques, ... on n'est pas au même niveau en France qu'en Indonésie.
On a en France autant de problèmes que ailleurs !
Je trouve ça exaspérant ce relativisme moral qui voudrait que tout soit pareil partout.
Je pense que pour la démocratie, le respect des droits humains, l'étendue des inégalités sociales, la corruption, le fanatisme religieux, le racisme violent contre les minorités ethniques, ... on n'est pas au même niveau en France qu'en Indonésie.
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Non.. Le contraire.. Je voulais justement dire que nous avons les différentes façons de vivre et traditions, mais nous tous aimerait d'être heureux ! Et nous avons tous le droit d'être heureux. Et France et different que Indonésie, mais surtout pas mieux ou supérieur. Il y a beaucoup des Français qui quitte le pays de France à cause les problèmes en France. À Bali, il y a une grande communauté Française. À Portugal, à Thailand etc etc.
Je n'ai pas du tout d'intention de faire le morale, je exprimé mes sentiments, c'est tout.
Je n'ai pas du tout d'intention de faire le morale, je exprimé mes sentiments, c'est tout.
OK
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Bsr,
Et bien croyez ce que vous voulez, moi je dis ce que j'ai entendu de mon ami et ceux qui étaient avec lui et surtout a travers son téléphone ce que j'entendais également. Pour info il suffit d'appeler l'ambassade à Jakarta pour info. Je ne suis pas la pour faire peur ou je ne sais quoi. Bon séjour en Indonésie pour ceux qui partent !😉
Et bien croyez ce que vous voulez, moi je dis ce que j'ai entendu de mon ami et ceux qui étaient avec lui et surtout a travers son téléphone ce que j'entendais également. Pour info il suffit d'appeler l'ambassade à Jakarta pour info. Je ne suis pas la pour faire peur ou je ne sais quoi. Bon séjour en Indonésie pour ceux qui partent !😉
Cordialement,
Patrick.
😄
ben oui si tu lirais les messages, tu saurais que Anne92 les a appelé et ils n'ont rien signalé. Idem sur la Gazette de Bali qui en général, sont bien informés et ne mâchent pas leurs mots.
là, on n'a toujours pas le nom de cet hôtel. 400 étrangers, j'imagine un gros hôtel, genre le Hyatt ou le Shangri La. Ce genre d'hôtel ne badine pas avec la sécurité de leurs clients et que les flics seraient vite sur place pour faire déguerpir voire coffrer des manifestants dangereux
ben oui si tu lirais les messages, tu saurais que Anne92 les a appelé et ils n'ont rien signalé. Idem sur la Gazette de Bali qui en général, sont bien informés et ne mâchent pas leurs mots.
là, on n'a toujours pas le nom de cet hôtel. 400 étrangers, j'imagine un gros hôtel, genre le Hyatt ou le Shangri La. Ce genre d'hôtel ne badine pas avec la sécurité de leurs clients et que les flics seraient vite sur place pour faire déguerpir voire coffrer des manifestants dangereux
Anne92 et moi, nous avons appelé l'ambassade de France à Jakarta!! Et des amis qu'ils travaille au ambassade qui ont vraiment dit que ils n'avaient pas faire les démarches pour evacué les touristes, surtout pas 400!!!
Personne ne veut des corps des terroristes de dimanche dernier, ni leurs familles, ni les gens du quartier du cimetière dans lequel ils devaient être enterrés. La population locale rebouche les trous creusés par les autorités ...
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Patrick : pourquoi ne pas demander à votre ami un récit un peu plus détaillé, un peu mieux construit ? Surtout qu'il n'est pas le seul témoin !
Patrick : pourquoi ne pas demander à votre ami un récit un peu plus détaillé, un peu mieux construit ? Surtout qu'il n'est pas le seul témoin !
Et bien croyez ce que vous voulez
Sauf que ça fait déjà deux fois que je te demande d'interroger ton ami pour obtenir le nom du quartier et/ou de l'hôtel (c'est pourtant pas compliqué un mail ou un sms, et ça t'aurait même pris moins de temps que pour tes inutiles dernières interventions...) mais que tu ignores superbement ma demande.
Et je ne te demande même pas ça pour prouver mais pour comprendre.
Donc là, forcément, le doute prend le dessus.
Sauf que ça fait déjà deux fois que je te demande d'interroger ton ami pour obtenir le nom du quartier et/ou de l'hôtel (c'est pourtant pas compliqué un mail ou un sms, et ça t'aurait même pris moins de temps que pour tes inutiles dernières interventions...) mais que tu ignores superbement ma demande.
Et je ne te demande même pas ça pour prouver mais pour comprendre.
Donc là, forcément, le doute prend le dessus.
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
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Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.





