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Partir en Chine ou ailleurs?
Bonjour à tou.te.s

Nous souhaitons partir en mai pour 25 jours, en Asie ou Amérique latine. Et après avoir regardé les destinations possibles en cette période de l’année. Nous nous sommes orientés vers la Chine mais depuis de nombreuse personnes nous ont déconseillé d’y aller pour les raisons suivantes (trop de monde sur les sites touristiques, les chinois sont pas avenants, bruyants et pas les plus civilisés, etc.). Nous ne savons plus quoi faire. Nous souhaitions partir dans un voyage avec un dépaysement culturel et naturel. Mixer paysage et jolis villages et villes, loin des foules touristiques. Il nous a semblé en regardant les forums que la Chine en mai (basse saison) et hors des sentiers battus pouvait être merveilleuse. On nous avait conseillé la région du Yunnan (Kunming, Yuanyang, Jianshui, Xizhou, Dali, Lijiang, Chengdu, Shaxi) et Pekin et Shanghai. Nous aurions aimé connaître vos avis. Une Chine sans trop de touristes et authentique est-elle possible ? Devrions-nous changer de destination ? Avez-vous des conseils ? Merci beaucoup
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Internet, VPN et "grand pare-feu" de Chine
Salut à tous, Récemment, j'ai communiqué avec un ami en Chine. Il m'a dit que le gouvernement chinois avait essayé de censurer ou de contrôler Internet. Il devait utiliser un VPN pour échapper à ce pare-feu pour communiquer avec moi, et maintenant il est de plus en plus difficile pour les VPN de contourner le grand pare-feu chinois. Il a essayé Divers VPN auront toujours divers problèmes de connexion. Je suis curieux à ce sujet, pourquoi ces pays sont-ils si stricts avec Internet? Y a-t-il encore des VPN qui échappent au Grand Firewall de Chine ? Si oui, c'est quoi? Je veux recommander à mon ami.

J'espère obtenir les dernières réponses, ce n'est pas seulement de Google. Cordialement
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Trip Report: Silk Road Journey in China
Hi everyone,

This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.

Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).

Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.

General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.

Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.

The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.

We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.

Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.

Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).

Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.

You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.

Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.

Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).

Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!

Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.

In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.

The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).

Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.

Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.

In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).

The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.

For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.

- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.

- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.

The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.

- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.

- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.

- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.

- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.

- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.

- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).

- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.

Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.

- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.

- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.

- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).

- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.

- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.

- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.

We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.

Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.
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Feedback on travel agencies for China?
Hi there, I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026. The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting. Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback? Is there a better option? Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this! Michel
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Questions for a 15-day itinerary in China
Hi everyone I’m currently planning my trip to China for next August. I’m starting from scratch, so I’m counting on your advice and firsthand experiences! For now, I only know that I’ll arrive in China via Beijing, Shanghai, or Hong Kong and leave 15 days later from another one of these three cities. In between, I’d love to explore a mountainous and natural region in the countryside. The Guilin area really appeals to me with its spectacular landscapes. I still have tons of questions: - What can you do during this often humid season? - Is it better to go through a local agency or organize everything yourself? - What itineraries would you recommend? Anyway, everything’s still up in the air, and I can’t wait to read your opinions, suggestions, and great tips to help me build this trip!
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Back from Yunnan and Guizhou
We’re a retired French couple. We’ve just spent 4 weeks in China: - 1. Exploring Yunnan in a group (12 people); a journey that took us from the Vietnamese border in the south to the edges of Tibet in the north. - 2. A private trip to Guizhou with just a driver. We’re absolutely delighted with what we discovered: a modern country with excellent infrastructure (especially the low level of urban pollution thanks to the high number of electric vehicles, the absence of diesel, and no noisy motorbikes in these two less industrialized provinces), friendly Chinese people who were always ready to help us when we had difficulties or questions, and a rich natural and cultural heritage. The language barrier remains the biggest challenge, despite instant translation tools. For both trips, we booked through the agency CIELCHINE, which we highly recommend. The value for money is unbeatable. The services were luxurious, especially for us since we usually travel alone on a tight budget for accommodation and food. The agency’s staff were perfectly competent and, what’s more, warm and welcoming. For Yunnan, our guide SEBASTIEN, who was experienced and knowledgeable, won everyone over. In Guizhou, our driver HUANG was professionally flawless and guided us through villages he knows well. Friendly and full of humor, he’d spontaneously talk to people he met, which made us be treated with much more kindness and allowed us to exchange a few basic words. As you can see, I haven’t ticked anything negative—not because I’m hiding anything or have any ulterior motive, but because I’m completely satisfied and the experience even exceeded all my expectations.
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Hong Kong en direct?
Bonjour à tous,

Y aurait-il des forumeurs actifs sur Hong-Kong en ce moment afin de raconter le situation "réelle" (et non celle colportée pour les médias) ?

Je dois y aller dans 2 mois, personne ne peut prévoir ce qu'il se passera d'ici là, mais celà fait déjà plus de 2 mois que celà dure, donc je me renseigne afin de prévoir une solution alternative de fin de voyage éventuellement...

Je souhaite donc savoir l'impact des "tensions" sur la vie locale et les balades touristiques (Central, Mong Kok, Victoria Peak, promenade...) ? La vie continue comme avant ?

Merci
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China-Japan Ferry
Hi there, I’m planning to visit Japan in May this year, and I’d love to try doing it without taking a flight. I’m currently in Vietnam, and my plan is to travel to Shanghai and then take a ferry to Osaka. I can’t find any clear info online about whether this is still possible. Most links mention a weekly departure, but when I check the company’s website, it says passenger transport is suspended.

If any of you have more recent info, I’d really appreciate it!

Have a great day! 😊
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Se faire rembourser suite à l'annulation d'un voyage en Chine
bonjour, je me permet de soumettre ce message suite à l'annulation du voyage en Chine que je devais effectuer début février dans le nord de la chine (GLA GLA) à l'invitation d'une jeune chinoise ( non je ne fais pas du tourisme sexuel , mais c'est plus facile de parler avec les jeunes chinoises qui pratiquent l'anglais et sont moins timides que les garçons ). Je partais avec lufthansa qui a annulé tous cs vols donc ils devraient me rembourser. Par contre, il y a d'autres frais ( parking aéroport et visas en particulier). Petite info pour les futurs partant pour la Chine habitant dans le sud. Cela devait être mon 3iéme séjour en chine, et c'était ma 3 iéme demande de visa. Les 2 première fois j'étais passsé par une agence de Paris bien connu ( pas trop de problèmes). Et cette fois -ci , à cause de la prise d'empreintes, je me suis rendu au centre de Marseille ( 1 journée pour moi qui habite dans les Cévennes). J'avais prévu les mêmes demandes qu'à Paris. Et bien NON. Pour les nuits d'hotel , il ne suffisait pas de 2 nuits ( alors que mon séjour était plus court ). L'employé ( que j'aurais fusillé si je l'avais pu) m'a dit que je n'avais pas assez de nuits. Heureusement que c'était le 24 décembre, qu'il n'y avait personne et un ordinateur qui m'a permis de prendre des nuits à beijing pour tout le séjour alors que je ne comptais même pas y passer une nuit , allant dans le nord de la chine à l'invitation d'une chinoise ( oui je sais, mais la lettre d'invitation c'est encore plus compliqué et comme je n'avais pas encore les billets de trains de nuit , j'avais peur que ç a marche pas). Et attention aussi à la photo d'identité qui doit avoir moins de 3 ou 6 mois. Donc quelqu'un sait-il comment se faire rembourser ( si possible) les frais annexes comme le frais de parking et le visa ( 200euros avev le service postal) .Avec l'assurance de la carte bancaire? Je répond par avance. je considère aussi que cela fait partie des risques du voyage ( c'est pour cela que je ne prend jamais les options annulations en général) mais parfois il y des cas de forces majeures qui te semblent vraiment injustes. Et je ne parlerais pas de ce qui arrive au peuple chinois qui n'a rien demandé. PS : amitié à mon guide vers Shandiping qui se reconnaitra. J'ai des nouvelles très fraiches : tout va bien pour l'instant là bas.
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Aller à Taïwan en ferry depuis la Chine
Bonjour,

J'ai un peu chercher, mais je n'ai trouvé aucune info récente sur ce sujet...

Est-il possible de rejoindre Taiwan en ferry depuis la Chine?

Si oui, depuis quelle ville, et surtout comment réserver?

Merci d'avance pour votre aide!
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Alternative to WhatsApp in China
Hi there, We’re planning a trip to China this autumn, and I just read that we won’t be able to use WhatsApp to stay in touch with people outside the country. What do you think would be the best alternative? Thanks!
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Annulation ou pas pour le Japon avec un vol via Pékin?
Bonjour Je m inquiète pas trop mais quand meme Nous partons mi avril pour Tokyo mais notre vol avec Air China nous fait faire un stop a Pékin de 3 h J ai peur qu on ne nous laisse pas descendre a Tokyo et me demande si le mieux n est pas de faire des démarches maintenant ? Merci
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Itinéraire de 3 semaines en Chine P��kin, Shenzhen, Macao...
Bonjour à tous !

Nous partons en famille, mon mari, ma fille de 7 ans et moi-même, 3 semaines en Chine, en juillet prochain.

Nous avons prévu de rester sur Pékin les 5 premiers jours. Ensuite, nous prenons un avion jusqu'à Shenzhen. Nous pensons rester une nuit sur Macao. Nous reprenons l'avion de Shengdu le dernier jour de notre voyage pour nous ramener sur Pékin puis sur Nice. En consacrant environ 5 jours pour le Sichuan.

Là où j'ai besoin de votre aide c'est pour la partie entre Macao et le Sichuan. Nous allons prendre les transports en commun pour remonter. Cependant, nous hésitons en Lijiang qui est quand même assez excentré ou l'île Haïnan (pour faire un peu de farniente). Nous aimerions également passer par Yangshuo et Guilin.

Auriez-vous des conseils ou des suggestions pour choisir entre ces deux étapes ? Ou d'autres idées pour remonter de Macao à Shengdu en 15 jours.

Merci beaucoup pour toute l'aide que vous pourrez nous apporter !!!

Marion
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Itinéraire Sichuan Kham - Amdo durant Nouvel an (Chine)
Bonjour, Je pars en Chine de la mi janvier à la mi fevrier 2020, en plein pendant le nouvel an... Je voudrais aller à Chengdu puis au mont Emei, Kangding, Tagong, Leshan... le tout sur une 10aine de jours, mais je ne sais pas si c'est faisable à cette époque ? (festivité, transports, hiver), surtout que c'est un peu reculé. Qu'en pensez vous ? PS je suis preneuse de toute information sur ces destinations, les transports, astuces... car je trouve presque rien sur internet concernant cette période (peut etre parce que c'est impossible à cette periode, je ne sais pas...) Merci !
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Boucherie halal ou grande surface avec halal à Tianjin (Chine)
Bonsoir, Je suis à Tianjin et je suis à la recherche d'une boucherie halal.

Pouvez vous me partager une adresse ou plusieurs adresses pour acheter du halal? Je précise que je suis à la recherche d'une vrai boucherie pas des étales en plein air que l'on trouve parfois dans les rues.

Merci pour votre aide
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Laisser ses valises 24 heures à l'aéroport de Hong Kong
Bonjour, Nous partons demain en voyage, nous passerons par Hong-Kong durant 24 hrs.

Pensez-vous qu'il y aurait un endroit spécifique pour laisser les valises en sécurité durant 24 hrs au sein même de l'aéroport ?

2eme petite question, Nous atterrissons vers 21 hrs. Nous devons prendre le airport express + le métro vers notre hôtel. Pour le airport express, il n'y a pas de soucis, mais savez vous jusque quelle heure circulent les métros en semaine ?

Bien à vous

Quentin
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Avis sur itinéraire pour voyage en Chine l'été prochain
Bonjour, j'aurais besoin d'un avis sur un itinéraire pour un voyage en Chine l'été prochain.

J 1/2/3 Pékin J 4 Pékin + train de nuit vers Datong J 5 Datong dans la journée puis train de nuit vers Pingyao J 6 Pingyao J 7 Pingyao + train vers X'ian J 8 X'ian + train de nuit vers Shangai J 9 / 10 / 11 Shangai / Suzhou

Bon, je sais le rythme est soutenu mais est-ce faisable ? Notamment faire dans la journée les grottes près de Datong et les temples suspendus (en voiture avec chauffeur) et repartir le soir ? Merci de vos conseils, ils seront les bienvenus...
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Sécurité à Hong Kong et quartiers en tension
Bonjour Nous voyageons à Hong kong du 10 au 17 septembre: 5 jours Hong Kong, 2 jours Macao et nous souhaitons connaitre l’appréciation de voyageurs sur place en ce moment, notamment sur les quartiers en tension. Merci également de nous informer sur vos impressions relatives aux événements en cours Cordialement Jean-François
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Voyage à Hong Kong en octobre et les transports
Bonjour Nous devons effectuer un voyage à Hongkong en octobre et au vu des évènements actuels sur Hongkong nous avons quelques appréhensions Si quelqu'un peut nous renseigner à savoir s'il est raisonnable d'y aller quand même ou risque t'on de ne pouvoir prendre les avions et ne pas profiter des infrastructures comme les métros ferry etc Par avance merci de nous faire partager vos conseils et connaissances sur ce sujet
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Frais banque locale en Chine
Bonjour à tous, comme les frais bancaire en voyage sont quelque chose d' important et que l'on veut éviter un max de balancer de l'argent aux S********* de banques ! c' est toujours mieux de partager ses expériences et ça aide les gens !

Donc je viens juste de passer la frontière sino viet à Hekou au nord du vietnam et je me suis dirigé vers l'ATM de Bank of china !

il permettait de retirer 3000 Yuans soit environ 379€ ! donc je confirme que je n'ai eu AUCUN FRAIS de la banque LOCALE donc de la Bank of China ! si ce n'est 20 cts au vu de mon compte surement le taux de change qui varie etc etc etc ...

je parle donc de frais de la banque chinoise et non de votre banque française ! nous sommes de plus en plus a utiliser la banque en ligne N26 donc sans frais pour les retrait a l' étranger.

car il n' y a pas beaucoup d'infos sur ce forum par rapport à ces frais de banques locales chinoises donc voilà pour la Bank of cina du moins c est zéro frais. avec mastercard, mais avec visa je ne sais pas mais je pebsr que ca doit être pareil !
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Itinerary for Major Asian Capitals
Hi there,

We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Asia this fall to visit some of the major capitals on this vast continent. We’d like to get a (very rough) sense of just how fast Asia is moving compared to what we see in the West (we’re from Quebec). For now, our very preliminary list includes Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Singapore. There are obviously plenty of other options—Seoul, Shanghai, etc.

What do you think? Thanks in advance!
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3-week summer itinerary Yunnan - Guizhou-Guangxi-HK
Hi everyone,

We're currently planning our itinerary for this summer (late July - August) in China. Our travel style is more backpacker-oriented—we're used to traveling in Latin America, booking things just 3 days in advance. Could you share your thoughts on this route?

We’re particularly wondering about: - Yangshuo (which seems very touristy) → Xingping instead? The park Bajiaozhai? - How to get around and find accommodation in the small Miao and Dong villages? - Should we book trains and hotels in advance for late July and early August?

Thanks so much!

28-Jul Monday Kunming: Bamboo Temple Dian Chi Lake Kunming 29-Jul Tuesday Visit the city center Lake bike tour Dali Dali 30-Jul Wednesday Three Pagodas / Cangshan Mountain Dali Dali 31-Jul Thursday Transport to Shaxi - visit 1 - Dali Old Town Coach Station (大理古城客运站) 2 - Arrive Jianchuan Coach Station 3 - Local green or yellow minibuses to Shaxi Dali → Jianchuan → Shaxi Shaxi 01-Aug Friday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Shaxi 02-Aug Saturday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Lijiang 03-Aug Sunday Tiger Leaping Gorge trek 04-Aug Monday Tiger Leaping Gorge Qiatou Lijiang / Dali 05-Aug Tuesday Dali → Kunming → Kaili Full-day transport Kaili 06-Aug Wednesday Langde Miao Village - Xijiang Miao Village Kaili 07-Aug Thursday Visit village Kaili 08-Aug Friday Visit village Zhaoxing 09-Aug Saturday AM: Train to Guilin - PM: Elephant Trunk Hill / night barbecue Zhaoxing → Guilin (1h) Guilin 10-Aug Sunday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 11-Aug Monday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 12-Aug Tuesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 13-Aug Wednesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 14-Aug Thursday Yangshuo Yangshuo 15-Aug Friday Guilin → HK (3.5h) Guilin → HK (3.5h) 16-Aug Saturday Hong Kong
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Exchanging money and booking hotels day-by-day in China
Hi there, I’m planning a backpacking trip to China at the end of April, and I’ve got two key questions. 1. Money: where to exchange it? My usual approach is to carry cash for the whole trip, so the question is: where can I get a decent rate? Airport, exchange bureau, bank, hotel, or jewelry store? The answer varies a lot depending on the country. What’s the best option for China? Extra detail: I might arrive on a Saturday. 2. Booking hotels day-by-day: how to do it? Until 2022, I’d just show up at places I’d spotted and negotiate. Now, I bring a smartphone and use Booking or Agoda, but these sites now require an OTP sent by email to log in, and I won’t have access to my ProtonMail account in China (even with a VPN, it’s uncertain). Can anyone tell me how to handle this? Worst case, by setting up a dedicated email account that works in China—but with which provider? Or maybe using a different booking platform? Thanks.
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1 month in China: our itinerary plan
Hi there, We’re planning a trip to China from May 5th to June 3rd, 2025.

We’re traveling independently using local transport—this will be our third trip to China since the 15-day visa exemption and our first since the 30-day visa exemption in 2025. We’ve drafted an itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts on the destinations and the length of our stops. We’re also looking for hotel recommendations.

Day 1: Montpellier to Beijing with Air France, Beijing – 6 days, including a trip to the Great Wall at Badaling, Beijing to Datong, Datong – 2 days, Datong to Pingyao, Pingyao – 2 days, Pingyao to Xi’an, Xi’an – 3 days, Xi’an to Chengdu, Chengdu – 2 days, Chengdu to Chongqing, Chongqing – 2 days, Chongqing to Changsha, Changsha to Zhangjiajie – 2 days, Changsha to Shanghai, Shanghai – 2 days (we’ve already been to Shanghai in May 2024). Shanghai to Montpellier.

Thanks for your feedback and tips! Alod
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Quel bateau de nuit entre Japon et Corée du Sud et Chine?
Bonjour, Nous faisons un trip/voyage Asie fin avril (on est 2 en couple, avec un sac à dos) JAPON > CORÉE DU SUD > CHINE. Sur env 3 semaines. Nous voulons passer d'un pays à l'autre en bateau, de préférence un ferry, de nuit. On a l'impression que le bateau de nuit entre FUKUOKA et BUSAN n'était plus ? Idem pour celui entre SAKAIMINATO et DONGHAE ?

De même, pour quitter la CORÉE vers la CHINE, depuis INCHEON ou PYEONGTAEK, il semblerait que des lignes de ferry n'existent plus ?

Quelqu'un a circulé récemment sur ces lignes ? Des infos ? Merci par avance pour vos réponses et commentaires.
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