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Bonjour. Je lis sur le forum que les réserves au Kenya sont devenues hors de prix. Qu'en est-il en Namibie, au Botswana, ou au Zimbabwe, où je serai à l'automne prochain ? Quelqu'un a-t-il tenté l'expérience sur ce forum ? Saura-t-il me dire si on peut camper sur place ? Merci !

Bonjour,

En Mars je vais faire un circuit en Namibie avec Jet Tours+l'extension Chutes Victoria.Questions: quelqu'un aurait il déjà fait ce circuit avec cet organisme ? Sinon la Namibie à cette période ça donne quoi au niveau climat? (donc: que mettre dans ses valises ??!); pour l'argent qu'est ce qui est le mieux, liquide ?? Merci de détails pratiques du style, est ce facile de trouver des cartes postales? des timbres?, quel budget prévoir (sachant que tout est compris au plan hotel et miam dans mon circuit).

Pour les Chutes nous allons être "lâchés" pendant 1.5 jours à savoir un après midi et presque tout le lendemain, donc 2 soirs et un midi de libres (merci des "tuyaux "pour des restaus sympas) et si possible merci de m'aiguiller sur les meilleures choses à voir et faire (sachant que dans le circuit le survol en hélico ou avion est déjà prévu); je voudrais faire le maximum bien sûr ! dans le minimum de temps ( pas de rafting ni de saut à l'élastique svp!).

Un grand merci à tous pour toutes ces choses pratiques qui font qu'un voyagze, même tout organisé est bien ou pas bien !!😎

Hi, We’re a young couple planning to travel to South Africa after spending about three weeks in Namibia. We’ll arrive in Cape Town around mid-December, with no fixed travel duration (though our budget will eventually set a limit). After browsing through the forum, we’ve realized the country is packed with incredible spots, which makes choosing an itinerary tough. We’re looking for stunning landscapes, hikes, and so on. So, we’d love to hear your thoughts and experiences. When we arrive in Cape Town, we’d like to settle in and take it easy until New Year’s, exploring at a relaxed pace. We know this period coincides with South African holidays—does that make finding accommodations (availability/prices) more difficult? Do you think it’s possible to stay in a nice place for about 15 days without aiming for the most upscale neighborhoods? Maybe somewhere a bit outside Cape Town, like Fish Hoek, and just visit the city occasionally. After that, we’ll have plenty of time (about 2 to 2.5 months) to explore the country. We’d like to take our time. In your opinion, is it better to focus on the Cape Town region, or is it reasonable to consider more distant areas like the Drakensberg or Blyde River Canyon? Can everything be done by car if we take our time, or are domestic flights sometimes more practical? Budget-wise, how much do car rentals cost? For accommodations, we usually look at Airbnb—are they affordable in South Africa? What’s the average nightly rate outside the biggest cities? Are there other platforms you’d recommend for saving on lodging? Finally, regarding safety, are there any regions to avoid besides Johannesburg? We know this is a lot of questions, but we’re still in the early planning stages! Thanks in advance for your advice!

Preamble:

For summer 2019, the idea was to return to Africa. We had already been to Namibia in 2017 (+ a few days in Botswana and the end of the trip at Victoria Falls), which we loved, and a trip to Asia in 2018 (Borneo, Perhentian, and Singapore), a nature-focused trip but a bit disappointing due to environmental destruction. The desire to return to Africa was very strong. We wanted a change of scenery, nature, discoveries, to step out of our little comfort zone (a bit, anyway!) and experience travel differently. In short, we dreamed of authenticity, and we weren’t disappointed.

We traveled as a family of four with our daughters, aged 19 and 17. When the urge for Africa hit, Uganda quickly stood out, especially for the chance to see rare animals, particularly the famous mountain gorillas. When I looked into the budget, I was quickly disheartened. It’s really expensive. Too expensive… Then, after reading a few trip reports on "VoyageForum" (thanks Muriel J!), I decided to ask a local agency for a quote. The first contact was very friendly and responsive, and the initial offer for two weeks fit our budget :). A few images gathered from the internet (especially Sipi Falls) finally convinced us all. I asked for an adapted offer with a few more sites to extend the trip to three weeks and cover a fairly complete visit to the country (which, of course, increased the budget! To stay within an acceptable range, we prioritized activities over accommodations and regularly chose the cheapest options, with 2-3 nice lodges in between). It’s booked! We were in October 2018, and the first thing to do was reserve permits to see the gorillas and chimpanzees. Then, the agency took care of all the bookings except for the international flights, which we booked with Ethiopian Airlines. A few months of waiting to look forward to… and a little worry too! Two events didn’t reassure us: the kidnapping of an American tourist by four men at the DRC border and the Ebola outbreak in Congo, with confirmed cases in Uganda by mid-June…

Here we are in July, and departure is approaching. The suitcases are packed (warm clothes, long, short, dark, light, practical, sun, rain, hiking/trekking shoes, flip-flops—clothes for every situation! Don’t forget: headlamp (essential!), binoculars, cameras), and we’re ready.

One day before departure, our agency Mpolampola, through its manager Paul, informs us that he won’t be the one taking care of us during the trip but another guide named Moses. He has a big problem with a vehicle and can’t do otherwise. For us, as long as everything is okay, no worries, especially since I had read glowing reviews about Moses, who turned out to be a very pleasant guide, cautious (most important) on the road, clear about all the activities, and an expert on birds, his specialty. We briefly met Paul in the middle of the trip, who is also very friendly. In short, we 100% recommend this agency. Flights to Entebbe went smoothly; we arrived around 10:30 AM, filled out health forms (Ebola information signs everywhere), visas, baggage claim, and met Moses, who took us directly to the vehicle. It was in pretty good condition with huge tires (we’d understand why later!), but it had quite a few miles (400,000 on the odometer!). Just missing a seatbelt… Okay, it’s Africa!

Now, here’s our day-by-day itinerary, which I’ll summarize briefly with ratings for each activity: ****TOPISSIME (Amazing) ***Very good **Good *Meh

Day 1) Departure from the airport at 11:45 AM for some currency exchange. Stop along the way at the equator for a meal and souvenir photo! Arrival at Lake Mburo Park *** around 5:00 PM. Even before entering the park, we saw lots of antelopes, zebras, elks, etc.—it’s magnificent. On the way, we had already encountered many goats and cows, and we were impressed by their enormous horns. We enjoyed a nice game drive until about 7:00 PM, when we reached our lodge, one of the nicest of the trip, Eagle’s Nest ****, with a magnificent view, a tent with a nice bathroom/shower, and a very good meal.

Day 2) Departure at 7:00 AM for a game drive; we encountered many animals again, especially antelopes, zebras, and birds. There are no giraffes, lions, or cheetahs in this park. We didn’t get lucky enough to see a leopard… :-) Then, we continued to Lake Bunyonyi ***, where the road and views are very beautiful, but we were shocked to see locals (mostly women and children) breaking stones by hand on the mountainside in very precarious safety conditions. There are regularly dramatic accidents because, over time, entire sections detach and cause landslides. These stones are then used for road construction… Another world… This was the only place we saw this. Lake Bunyonyi is a nice stop (but less exotic in our opinion since we have many lakes back home too!). We took a boat to our accommodation, Byoona Amagara ***, which has a lot of charm. We stayed in huts called "geodomes," completely open to nature, so it was very cool at night. To reach the toilets located below, you had to be brave! The meal consisted of lake shrimp—good but a bit bland.

Day 3) After a good breakfast, departure at 9:00 AM to visit three islands. We took several nice walks with beautiful views of the lake and islands. A local meal was served on the last island. At 1:00 PM, we met Moses for the rest of the program and headed to Ruhija in Bwindi Forest****. The landscapes are breathtaking. After two hours of driving and many photo stops, we arrived at our accommodation near the trekking starting point, Ruhija Gorilla Friends Resort **. We stayed in a room instead of the initially planned tents, which was just as well because there was a lot of wind during the night. We still had time for an activity and decided to meet the Bwata pygmies despite the bad reviews in the guide… The first part of the visit was quite nice, with a visit to a school where the children gave us a very joyful welcome. We had a great time listening to them sing and dance! Then we met the Bwata pygmies who live on the edge of the forest. When Bwindi Forest was declared a national park, they had to leave their habitat because their activities weren’t compatible with nature and wildlife protection. We left on a somewhat sad note… The visit ended with a local doctor explaining different medicinal plants, and we watched the making of local beer from sorghum. Good meal. We had butterflies in our stomachs—tomorrow was a big day! I admit I was a bit stressed, not entirely confident in my physical abilities…

Day 4) After a short night due to excitement, breakfast, and departure at 7:30 AM. First, it started calmly with singing and dancing. Then, a 15-minute briefing and group assignments. No one asked if we had any physical problems or anything (when booking, I had inquired a bit, and they told me groups were assigned based on physical abilities). We were assigned to the Mukiza group. At first, I was pretty happy—it was a fairly large group with babies :). The ranger explained that for now, they didn’t know where the gorillas were… the trackers couldn’t find them… Oh… (that’s not a good sign!!!) We set off at a good pace, first on a reasonably sloped path. We were accompanied by a family of four Italians and five porters (four for us!). After an hour, the ranger stopped us and informed us they still couldn’t find them—they had fought with another group the day before and scattered throughout the forest, so they were very far away, and we needed to move faster… Hmm… we picked up the pace (we weren’t going slowly before!!!) and walked for another good hour—down, up, down again, up again, we kept going, but always more or less on paths. Then another stop. A 10-minute break waiting for news. The news wasn’t very precise, it seemed! The ranger decided to cut through the forest—machetes were used to clear the path. We descended unimaginable slopes, then climbed back up. Our stick kept getting stuck; luckily, our porter helped us, held our hands, and the terrain was vertical! An hour later, another stop: we heard gorilla cries (yay!!!). False hope—we waited again for news from the trackers, who informed our ranger that it was a non-habituated family, so we couldn’t see them. Cold shower—we had to go all the way back up and return to the starting point to maybe see another group. But time was running out… We arrived around 1:30 PM; all the other groups had already left long ago. Our guide was worried because we still had a long drive ahead. We quickly ate a banana, and off we went for another trek (I was exhausted!). Luckily, this group was close—about 45 minutes of steep descent (I was already thinking about the climb back and considering being adopted by a gorilla ). The forest was sublime, with magnificent tree ferns—the place was truly splendid. Finally, we were there. The porters stayed behind, we grabbed our cameras, and followed the ranger. The progress wasn’t easy, but suddenly, a female was in front of us, curled up in a little ball, eating—so cute. The emotion overwhelmed us. But she moved away—it’s hard to observe them; they move constantly, and the terrain is very steep and uneven. We saw a female descending from a tree with a baby on her back—too adorable. Then, here was the silverback, enormous, incredible, yet so calm and peaceful. He ate quietly and gave us a nice demonstration of nostril exploration! We could observe them for a good hour, but photographing them wasn’t easy because they kept moving, and we could barely stand! Toward the end, a large male (black back) suddenly stood up and decided to pass right where I was! I ended up in the bushes, and the male passed in front of me just a few centimeters away (he stepped on one of my daughters’ feet!) followed by the whole family. Just an exceptional moment. It was time to leave; we had to climb back up. I dreaded it because, I admit, I was exhausted. We finished the hike after 4:00 PM, exhausted but happy. The ranger gave us diplomas, and we didn’t linger because we still had a long drive—we needed to reach Ishasha before nightfall. Our guide was a bit stressed. If we were to do it again, we’d spend an extra night in Bwindi. However, it seems finishing so late is exceptional—it never happens, according to our guide! The road between Bwindi and Ishasha is sublime, with extraordinary landscapes, and despite the late hour, we regularly asked our guide to stop for photos. We arrived at Enjojo *** Lodge around 6:00 PM. The huts are located quite far from the reception and the bathrooms, a bit far from the huts, but otherwise, it was very nice.

Day 5) Departure at 8:00 AM after a good breakfast with the hope of seeing tree-climbing lions (no luck!). Overall, there weren’t many animals, and we arrived around 12:45 PM at our next stop, Parkview Safari Lodge ****, with a magnificent view, a beautiful family bungalow, and a good meal. We enjoyed a short relaxation by the lovely pool. At 4:00 PM, we left to see Kyambura Gorge *** and hike there. Unfortunately, this activity is no longer available, so we walked around the area—it was very beautiful. Back at the hotel, a little rest after the previous day wasn’t a bad idea! Reading, swimming, meals, and dances made the end of the day enjoyable.

Day 6) Departure at 6:30 AM—one of our daughters was sick (stomachache, cold sweats…). Safari in Queen Elizabeth ** (Kaseny Plains)—a bit disappointing. Stop by the salt lake with a nice view. A small market, but we weren’t thrilled by the crafts (overall, apart from some beautiful baskets/plates, there wasn’t much, and the wooden objects were, in our opinion, much less pretty than in Namibia). Then we took the crater road (27 km long) **** with magnificent landscapes. However, you absolutely must close the windows because it’s infested with tsetse flies. At noon, we arrived at Mweya, where we stayed in basic rooms, but the restaurant was well-placed with a beautiful view of the Kazinga Channel. At 2:00 PM, we enjoyed a magnificent cruise **** on the channel. Elephants, antelopes, crocodiles, hippos (including adorable babies), buffaloes, all kinds of birds. Wow!!! Two hours of pure bliss. Quiet end of the day playing cards with a view of the channel and elephants.

Day 7) Departure at 6:00 AM—still sick, we weren’t sure if it was due to the preventive treatment (Malarone) or something else… Another game drive in Queen Elizabeth (Kaseny Plains) and breakfast by the salt lake. Overall, we were a bit disappointed by this park. Then we took the road to Crater Lakes***, again with very beautiful landscapes. A hike of about an hour and a half allowed us to discover these beautiful crater lakes (the water mainly comes from the Rwenzoris). We crossed pretty villages and had nice encounters. End of the day at Tinka’s Home ****, with a family. We loved this place—very welcoming, where we took a cooking class with our hosts. A really great time. After the meal, we enjoyed African stories and dances. Really awesome.

Day 8) Departure at 7:30 AM for another highly anticipated discovery—the chimpanzees in Kibale Forest ****. We went to the meeting point and were split into groups of six, each with a guide. We saw three different groups, and for the last group, we followed a chimpanzee (slightly more comfortable running in the forest than we were!) that led us to the group. Their cries are very impressive, and we could observe them well, even though they were often high up in the trees. We were lucky enough to see two on the ground, very close to us. It was magnificent. End of the encounter and return to the starting point—it was noon. We went back to Tinka’s Home for the meal (delicious!). At 2:00 PM, we hiked in Bigodi Swamp ***, a marsh surrounded by beautiful vegetation, especially huge papyrus, and inhabited by many birds and monkeys. We saw, among others, black-and-white colobus monkeys, red colobus monkeys, and vervet monkeys. We also visited a basket-weaving workshop where we bought two beautiful baskets. Then a short stop in Fort Portal, where we stayed for two nights at Ruwenzori View Guesthouse ***, a nice place with a family room and very good communal meals.

Day 9) Departure at 8:00 AM for a hike in the Rwenzori****—it was a bit chaotic today. First, we had to exchange shillings because we wouldn’t have another chance in the following days. At the bank, employees went to get the bills by motorcycle from other buildings—it was quite surreal! And it took time! Then there was a misunderstanding between the organizer and me… I really wanted to see the region where chameleons are found in the Rwenzori—this region is south of the mountain range, and we were in the north! Anyway, the program included an ascent in the northern part with a positive elevation gain of over 1,500 meters… Talking to the guide scheduled for this hike (Noah), we explained that we really wanted to discover the vegetation and these famous chameleons, not necessarily achieve a physical feat… (we’d had enough!). The decision was made to go south, which meant quite a bit of driving. The hike was really enjoyable, with magnificent vegetation by the river. We saw three of the four chameleon species present, including the famous three-horned chameleon. The region is superb. We ended with a drink at Ruboni Camp, which has a magnificent view of the region (ideally, we should have stayed there). Two hours of driving to finish, and a good meal :).

Day 10) Departure at 8:00 AM—we had a long drive to Ziwa Rhino Ranch****. We passed through Hoima, had lunch in Masindi, and arrived in time for the rhino tracking walk. We could approach them closely on foot—it was impressive. We saw eight. Since we were staying on-site in the guesthouse **, we received precise safety instructions for moving between the rooms and the restaurant. And we quickly understood why!

Day 11) Departure at 6:00 AM for breakfast—surprise, in front of our room, several large rhinos were sleeping (we had also heard a lot of animal noises during the night—rhinos but also what seemed to be predators). So we had to take a detour to reach the restaurant! Second surprise—next to the restaurant, just three meters away at most, two mothers and their baby were also sleeping! Memorable! Then we had an appointment for the shoebill trek and canoe ride **** (package with the previous day’s walk). So there we were, in our boots, splashing through 30 cm of water in search of the shoebill (I really wanted to see one :))! It was really fun, and luck was on our side—a shoebill had just landed in the distance! We approached as best we could and observed it from afar. What a strange bird! There are very few left, and Uganda is one of the countries where the chances of seeing one are quite good. The tour continued with a canoe cruise where we saw a herd of cows (the famous ones with enormous horns) being swum as a dowry to the father of the future bride! A funny spectacle. This stop wasn’t the most anticipated, but we all thought it was really worth the detour. Road to Murchison Falls Park, and arrival around noon at Red Chili Rest Camp **, where we stayed for two nights (family banda). Good meal. Then a cruise to Murchison Falls*** where we disembarked and continued on foot. It was pretty. Back to Red Chili.

Day 12) This morning, early departure for a cruise in search of the shoebill*** (booked in case we didn’t see one at Ziwa). The landscapes were pretty, but there weren’t many birds in the end. We spotted the chosen one from afar after the first 10 minutes—so the suspense didn’t last long :-) It was a nice activity but quite long—5 hours. In the afternoon, safari in Murchison Park****—this park is sublime, the landscapes fabulous. Really one of our favorite parts of the trip. Lots of animals and even a leopard spotted with binoculars because it was far away! Night at Red Chili.

Day 13) Departure for the first morning ferry—it was drizzling, the sky was threatening at first, so the landscape was spectacular! Beautiful contrasts. In the middle of the morning, we were lucky to observe a whole group of lions, first from afar, then with a little patience, the whole group approached until they passed beside and in front of our vehicle. What emotion and excitement! We could then observe large groups of giraffes. They were magnificent. The morning was incredible. Then we headed to our lodge, Fort Murchison ****, and on the way, we saw a whole group of elephants—the view was magnificent. We had a very good meal and enjoyed the pool a bit. We also met Paul, the organizer of our trip. Very nice :). In the late afternoon, off for a short safari in the park. We slept in very well-equipped tents.

Day 14) Today, we had a long drive to Kidepo Park. It was raining, which didn’t help our guide—according to him, the tracks near Kidepo turn to mud with rain and become difficult to navigate. We saw, among other things, a bus in a bad situation in the ditch. Some sections were really tricky, and we were glad to have a driver. The end of the trip—the landscape was spectacular and original, and we saw some traditional villages. We arrived at Kidepo quite late. Short safari in the park before reaching the accommodation. We booked two simple bandas in the park camp**. It was clean but didn’t hold up well in the rain . The restaurant was very nice, though.

Day 15) The day was dedicated to discovering Kidepo Park **** where the landscapes were again superb. First encounter with a lioness resting on a rock. We saw other lions later and observed them for a long time. There were almost no other tourists in the park. Our daughter wasn’t feeling well, and by the time we arrived at the lodge, she had a temperature of 39.5°C (103.1°F)… A nap was necessary. In the late afternoon, we returned to the spot where we had seen the lions that morning, and they were still there—they weren’t happy because rain was threatening! It was a great photo opportunity. Then came the downpour, and our driver urged us to return quickly because the tracks were becoming impassable. Indeed, a jeep was in the ditch… The return was eventful, and several times we slid without being able to do anything… Wow, what a day!

Day 16) No safari this morning because of impassable tracks—the road to Kotido*** was longer than expected as we had to take a detour. The landscapes along the way were surprising. We finally arrived around 1:00 PM at the accommodation and left at 3:00 PM to visit the largest manyatta in East Africa with two translators. It was incredible—a very beautiful experience. The manyatta is immense and has 28,000 inhabitants. Night at Karamojaarts guesthouse*—very average meal.

Day 17) Departure for Moroto****—on the way, we saw many bird species. Moroto doesn’t look like other Ugandan cities. Life there seems very pleasant. We arrived at Kara-Tunga and had a bite to eat. At 4:00 PM, we left to visit a Karamojong village. We enjoyed beautiful dances and watched communal games—it was fun and so authentic. Then we headed to a kraal (where shepherds and herds are) to set up our camp. Moses had to get used to the idea of sleeping in the tribe in a tent! It was incredible to find ourselves in this universe. The place was beautiful, and we had a great time with the Karamojong. Some had never seen white people… had never been in a car… Their culture is incredible. During the evening, around the fire, to our guide’s dismay (a bird enthusiast), they grilled hornbills! On our side, we ate a meal prepared by Kara-Tunga for our sensitive stomachs! Night in a tent.

Day 18) Dawn wake-up in the fog—the atmosphere was quite strange. Our daughter was attacked by a cow—fortunately, more fear than harm, but she ended up with a lot of thorns in her buttocks and thighs ! Then we left for the Mount Elgon region, specifically Sipi Falls****. Lacam Lodge****, perched on the edge of the cliff with a direct view of one of the falls, was just magnificent. The view and landscapes were fabulous. Big favorite. We had dinner and then went for a hike to visit the three falls in the region, partly in the rain. The landscapes were breathtaking! Sunset at Lacam Lodge with the sun setting over the waterfall. We couldn’t get enough and stayed to admire until nightfall!

Day 19) Visit to coffee plantations*** where we were given all the useful explanations to understand the culture and the incredible work required for this product, which is ultimately not very glorified. The visit was very interesting, and we drank very good coffee with the owners. Last photos at Lacam Lodge, and then departure for Jinja, where we arrived in the middle of the afternoon. We took a small cruise to see the source of the Nile*. Very touristy and not at all to our taste… Then a meal at Jinja Base Camp** where we enjoyed guacamole. Our guide Moses left us because another group was waiting for him!

Day 20) Road to Kampala***, the market, the Gaddafi Mosque. Short but interesting visit. Last meal in Entebbe by Lake Victoria, where we almost felt like we were by the sea. Transfer to the airport and return to Switzerland…

Epilogue: All four of us were enchanted by this trip, which will undoubtedly remain one of the most beautiful we’ve ever taken. Talking about it gives me chills and brings tears to my eyes. It was simply a magnificent experience. However, I wouldn’t recommend this trip to everyone because you often have to overlook small inconveniences like toilets (the worst of my life) and certain comfort details that, for us, remain details but could be important to others.

Our favorites: - The gorilla trek - The cruise on Kazinga Channel - The Fort Portal region - The Rwenzori Mountains - The chimpanzee trek - Murchison Falls - Kidepo - Spending time with the Karamojong tribe - The Sipi Falls region - The accommodations: Eagle’s Nest, Byonna Amagara, Parkview Lodge, Tinka’s Home, Rwenzori Guesthouse, Fort Murchison, Night in the kraal, and Lacam Lodge

What we liked less: - Queen Elizabeth Park - Jinja - The accommodations: Ziwa Rhino Ranch, Karamojaarts Guesthouse

I’ll try to post some photos later. If you have any questions about a future trip, I’d be happy to answer them.

Bonjour,

Nous sommes deux hommes en recherche de notre prochaine destination, et une première en Afrique que nous ne connaissons pas du tout.

Y a t'il selon vous un pays "faisable" en road trip/autotour, pour des néophytes ?

Du point de vue sécuritaire... Nous avons lu pas mal d'avis "terrifiants" concernant la sécurité en Afrique du Sud. Nous pensions au Kenya, Tanzanie, etc (longue liste, sommes ouverts).

Nous l'aurions bien fait avec un guide privé pour nous rassurer, mais ça semble cher. Notre budget sur place est environ de 2 000 euros par personne pour une durée de 10 à 15 jours maximum.

Merci.

Voici mes impressions de mon premier voyage en Afrique du sud.

Je remercie tous ceux qui sur ce forum mon permis de réaliser ce voyage par moi mème et mon inciter à faire ce voyage.😉

Nous sommes parti en couple un peu inquiet suite aux avis du site France diplomatie mais finalement nous n'avons pas eu de problèmes de sécurité sur place.

Voici notre parcours :



J1 Johannesburg --Clarens J2 Clarens -- Escourt J3 Escourt--St Lucia J4 St Lucia J5 St lucia-- Malkerns(Swasiland) J6 Malkerns -- Malelane J7 Malelane J8 Malelane-- Orpen restcamp J9 Orpen restcamp--Letaba J10 Letaba restcamp j11 Letaba--lower Sabie J12 lower Sabie--Graskop J13 Graskop-- Polokswane J14 Polokswane-- Johannesburg

On s'est concentré sur l'est du pays et sur le parc Kruger car notre principale objectif était de voir des animaux et surtout des félins que nous n'avions pas vu en Namibie!

Nous avons réservé le vol et les hébergements au parc Kruger 10 mois à l'avance et avons chercher à limiter les couts au maximun.

Nous avons voyagé avec Egyptair et avons eu un petit imprévu...

Notre vol qui devait partir vers les 15h a été retardé de 8h suite a une menace terroriste : alors que nous étions dans l'avion 2 policiers armés ont fait descendre un homme de l'avion puis nous avons du sortir et attendre de longues heures notre réembarquement après une fouille poussée!

Nous avions une escale de 3h au Caire avant notre avion pour Johannesburg aussi nous l'avons loupé! Le voyage commençait bien!

Nous sommes arrivé à 4h du matin au Caire mais Egyptair nous a bien pris en charge et nous a hébergé au Méridien situé dans l'aéroport.

On nous a proposé une excursion pour visiter les pyramides en attendant notre vol pour l'Afrique du sud prévu qu'à 21h...



Après un très bon petit déjeuner et une courte sieste nous sommes partis pour une visite improvisée des pyramides et du sphinx.



Après un très bon déjeuné et une courte sieste nous sommes partis pour une visite improvisée des pyramides et du sphinx!



Nous avons sympathisé avec la petite dizaine de passagers qui était comme nous coincés au Caire.



Finalement après une escale à Nairobi nous finissons par atterrir sur le sol sudafricain.

Nous avions prévu de dormir à Clarens le premier jours mais vu notre périple au Caire nous nous dirigeons directement sur Escourt .

Malgré notre fatigue la prise de main de notre (petite) voiture et la conduite à gauche se passe bien!

Nous avions pris une tablette et utiliser Mapsme qui c'est révélé très pratique pour trouver notre route et qui ne demande pas d'internet.

Nous avions prévu de découvrir le Drakensberg mais vu notre retard nous devons éliminer cette visite...

Nous sommes très bien accueilli à Escourt au At home BB malgré le vent glacial qui nous oblige à mettre le chauffage à fond : on ne s'attendait pas à ça en Afrique du sud!



Nous ne tardons pas à nous écrouler dans le lit. Le lendemain nous avons le droit à un bon petit déjeuner avant de faire une longue route pour St Lucia.



Nous constatons que les terres sont exploités intensivement et parcourons des kilomètres de monoculture tantôt des forêts tracés au cordeau tantôt de la canne à sucre, des bananiers ou des champs d'ananas.



Je pensais voir plus de paysages sauvages qui sont très rares en dehors des parcs...🙁

Bonjour à tous les passionnés de cette destination, Nous commençons à préparer un voyage envisagé au Botswana en août 2018 et nous serions preneurs de vos conseils en matière d'itineraires, TO, hébergements... Nous avions effectué un auto-tour en Namibie en couple il y a une dizaine d'années et nous avions adoré... Nous avons désormais une fille qui aura 8 ans l'été prochain et nous souhaiterions lui faire partager ce voyage, nous émerveiller avec elle devant la faune sauvage... tout en restant "raisonnable" au niveau de la sécurité. Nous souhaiterions passer de l'ordre de 2 semaines sur place, et faire notamment les incontournables : Delta de l'Okavango, Moremie, Chobe, excursion aux chutes Victoria... Pour une question de sécurité, nous n'envisageons pas une formule 4x4 en autonomie, avec l'organisation des campements le soir, ce qui ne serait pas prudent à mon sens et nous n'avons pas non plus les moyens d'effectuer tout le circuit en formule lodge, compte tenu des prix vraiment très élevés de la plupart de ces derniers ! Bref, la formule qui me semble la plus adaptée serait celle avec chauffeur-guide exclusif...en campement dit "confort" (nous ne sommes pas contre éventuellement une formule en petit groupe de moins de 10 personnes). Et nous aimerions que cela soit ponctué de quelques nuits en lodge / chalet (4 ou 5 sur la durée du séjour je pense). J'en entendu parler sur ce forum de TO tels que Africa cœur safaris ou Bel AFrica, les connaissez-vous ou quel autre nous conseilleriez vous ? Au vu de ces différents aspects, auriez-vous un itinéraire à nous conseiller et/ou des étapes sympas sur le parcours ? J'ai lu par exemple des témoignages sur Senyati Camp qui font envie... Toutes vos bonnes idées sont les bienvenues pour concocter le voyage de nos rêves !

bonjour a tous !

je pars pour le Kenya pour un très court séjour de 9 jours complets en juillet !

je suis habituée au voyage sac a dos ( Afrique du sud, Namibie, Botswana, Madagascar) mais ce sera pour moi une première de voyager seule en Afrique !

quelques inquiétudes ressortent ! je me suis tenue au courant de la situation actuelle sur les sites gouvernementaux, cependant l'avis de voyageurs expérimentés seraient le bienvenu ! en sachant que je pars en connaissance de cause !

ensuite, j'aimerais quelques conseil pour mon court parcourt, ayant très peu de temps je ne cherche pas a traverser pays. je souhaite rester sur un ou 2 endroits et profiter du site. j'arriverai par Nairobi

j'aime la randonnée et préfère les terres a la mer. je n'irai donc pas sur le littoral.

j'ai déjà conduit 4*4 sur piste, mais je n'était pas seule. faut il vraiment faire appel a un guide local et peut on s'orienter seule dans les parcs ? l'état des sentiers ? il me semble que les tours safari sont très chers ?

donc, si vous avez des suggestions , conseils ( sécurité, parcours, guides, parcs, logements ......), je vous remercie d'avance 🙂

carole

" la peur est un briseur de rêve "

Bonjour,

Mon conjoint et moi souhaitons faire un safari fin février 2016 - début mars 2016, auriez vous des conseils sur la destination? Nous avons vu beaucoup d'endroits intéressant notamment en Tanzanie et au Kenya mais il est très dur de se décider sans connaitre... Vos conseils sont bienvenues.

Bonsoir,

Je pars pendant trois semaines en van avec un copain pour visiter l'afrique du sud (du cap jusqu'à johannesbourg). J'ai l'habitude de voyager en stop etc mais je n'ai jamais été dans des pays un peu craignos niveau sécurité et un ami me dit que c'est inconscient de faire l'afrique du sud en van ... Certains d'entre vous l'ont-ils fait ? Si oui est-ce vraiment dangereux de dormir hors des campings ?

Merci pour vos précieuses infos !

Robin

Bonjour, Après un voyage de 2 mois en Afrique du Sud nous en faisons un autre en mars 2015 au Botswana et Namibie. Nous nous posons des questions sur le trajet entre Gaborone et la frontière de Namibie. Nous hésitons entre deux options: 1) Visite du Mabuasehube GR et la partie nord du KTP en entrant par Kaa ensuite rejoindre la Namibie par Mamuno. 2) Visite de Kutse GR et le sud de Central Kalahari GR ensuite rejoindre la Namibie en sortant par l'ouest et Ghanzi si c'est possible ou en reprenant la route par Kang.

Que nous conseillez-vous? Avez-vous des informations sur l'état des pistes dans le KTP? On préfèrerait que ce ne soit pas une galère. Merci

Bonjour à tous,

Pour le moment, j'hésite toujours entre Afrique du sud, Namibie, Botswana, pour les vacances en août 2014. J'attendrai d'avoir une idée des prix pour me décider.

J'ai passé beaucoup de temps dans des paysages de roches colorées, de déserts divers et variés aux couleurs extra il y a un an, dans les Andes (Bolivie, Chili et Argentine), puis pas mal de temps dans le sud ouest des Etats Unis et je souhaite voir quelque chose de différent. Ma priorité: ce sont les gros mammifères terrestres et des hébergements confortables.

Je vais commencer mes questions par la destination qui me semble la plus facile: l'Afrique du sud.

Je crois avoir compris que le parc Kruger est un incontournable. Vrai? Combien de jours au moins faut-il y rester? Et quelles sont les parties stratégiques où il faut dormir (pour moi en lodge, pas de tente sur la voiture) Quelle différence y-a-t-il entre un Rest Camp et un Wilderness Camp ? Et les lodges, sont-ils tous prévus pour 6 personnes? Qu'est-ce qu'un "hide" dans les camps?

Que penser des parcs Sabi sand? Timbavati? Qu'apportent-ils de plus ou de différent que le parc Kruger?

Etant donné que les activités maritimes, la découverte des oiseaux ne m'attirent pas, par quoi je pourrais remplacer la visite de St lucia, dans un programme qui inclus déjà le Kruger et éventuellement Sabi sand ou Timbavati, la route des panoramas, pour un périple de minimum 15 jours, maximum 3 semaines arrivée et retour à Johannesbourg (pour le moment mais rien n'est figé).

Qu'apporterais une extension au Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park?

Finalement, en août, est-il nécessaire de prendre un traitement anti paludisme? anti malaria? Pourquoi est-ce que personne ne parle de visiter la ville de Johannesbourg? Trop dangereux? Pas intéressant? Peut-on y assister à des concerts de chants sud africains?

Voilà, pour le moment. Toute suggestion est la bienvenue. Merci d'avance.

Bonjour Amis voyageurs,

Je dois partir pour un séjour de 4 mois en Afrique du sud, dans la région du Cap entre avril et juillet 2013. Je pars rencontrer les structures culturelles de cette région et serai basée à Capetown pour trois mois , plus un mois de vadrouille durant lequel j'aimerais bien me rendre en Namibie.

En parcourant le forum, je lis des choses assez mitigées sur la sécurité à Capetown pour une femme seule. Qu'en est il ? Quels sont les bons quartier où habiter? est il prudent de prendre les transport en commun ou faut il impérativement circuler en voiture? Est il possible de sortir le soir? (notamment pour aller voir des spectacles?)

Par ailleurs je suis preneuse de bons conseils sur les lieux et sites à visiter?

J'aurais aussi aimé rencontrer les khoisan qui vivent plus au nord de l'Afrique du Sud,

Enfin est il facile de passer la frontière afrique du sud / namibie?

Merci pour vos conseils!

Maud

Bonjour à tous,

je suis dans ce chouette état de celui qui a décidé de partir mais qui ne sait pas encore où et je vous demande des conseils dans ce cadre-là.

Je suis parti en couple l'année passé en Namibie, 3 semaines en 4x4 et en campant, j'aurai voulu faire le même genre de voyage cette année, c'est à dire:

- une destination où le pays est vide, de vaste étendue - la possibilité de camper facilement (camping ou sauvage ) - des trajets pas trop techniques / complexes: niveau débutant - la possibilité de partir non accompagné - .... et histoire de corser le tout, on serait for tenté par l'Asie . . .

Voilà si quelqu'un a des pistes de réflexion, nous sommes certainement preneurs

Bonne journée

Damien

bonjour à tous, sommes revenus d'un voyage d'un mois en Namibie et Botswana vraiment enchantés et un peu sur notre faim coté Botswana, où nous sommes restés coté shakawe, dans le panhandle, tsodillo hills, maun puis santa wani lodge, et le kalahari . Désirons découvrir le Moremi et Chobe, et les pans, en 15 jours. Fait il préférer octobre , sec, des animaux, mais TRES chaud, nous a t-on dit, où mars, mais encore de la pluie ?

salut a tous

il ne nous reste que 2.5 mois avant d eterminer notre TDM en famille et se sera en afrique du sud namibie et botswanw

j'aurais voulu des infos sur la RSA, on y arrive le 2 juin Pour l'argent c mieux de tt retirer en rand RSA et changer pour les autres pays ou retirer dans chac pays ( c pour le taux)? Itinerair de 3 sem en partant et revenant a joburg sachant que nous serons en 4*4 avec tente sur le toit et que nous adorons les treks ? (lesotho, swazil..)? Camping free est ce impossible ou trop dangereux? Connaissez vous un hotel faisant camping a joburg sympa pour max 50 rand par pers

merci d'avance

Bjr à tous,

Je cherche désespérément une destination lointaine et dépaysante pour notre prochain voyage de cet été ... Vu les critères, j'ai du mal à trouver : Destination facile à faire en solo pour des habitués Pays sûr (avec 2 enfants de 12 ans) Pas ces pays, déjà faits : Namibie, Kirghizie (que je conseille fortement), Cap Vert (idem), Cuba, Thaïlande, Viet Nam, Kenya, Tunisie ... Budget global d'environ 5 à 6000 € pour 3 semaines, 2 adultes & 2 enfants Météo OK (pas de chaleur caniculaire, pas de mousson)

Pour l'instant je sèche ... 😐 Vous avez des suggestions de pays à me conseiller ?

Par avance merci pour vos réponses

Pour info, on a songé à l'Inde (mais la mousson ?), le Ladakh (mais le mal d'altitude si on arrive en avion ?), le Costa Rica (mais la pluie et la sécurité ?), Madagascar (mais la sécurité ?), le sud-ouest des Etats-Unis (mais la chaleur), le nord-ouest des Etats-Unis (bcp moins intéressant ?) ...

Bonjour, Nous sommes un couple avec deux enfants au début de notre planification de voyage l'été 2008. Nous prévoyons passer cinq semaines en Afrique Centrale avec des enfants de 8 et 11 ans (dont 1 ou 2 au Maroc). Serait-ce possible d'avoir votre opinion au niveau de: la sécurité (voyage en sac à dos), l'accessibilité (considérant des enfants), le climat... Auriez-vous des endroits à recommander en considérant les éléments ci-haut. Nous sommes ouverts à diverses destinations. Merci pour votre aide et pour toute suggestion!

Nancy et Sylvain

Bonjour à tous. Je réfléchis à un éventuel voyage en Afrique Australe pour notre été 2008. Nous avons déjà un peu parcouru l'est de l'Afrique du Sud et la Namibie (sauf Kaokoland). Les paysages et la faune du Zimbabwe m'attirent mais en faison une recherche sur ce pays, la situation économique et politique ne parait pas facile MAIS il n'y a pas de post récent. Est-ce que par hasard il n'y auarit pas une lueur d'espoir à l'horizon? L'idée serait de passer par une agence locale pour nous déplacer avec une voiture (un 4X4?) et son chauffeur (nécessaire pour trouver de l'essence?) Nous voyageons en famille avec nos 3 enfants de 11, 12 et 13 ans. Merci de me dire ce que vous en pensez! Marie