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C'est quoi l'Inde pour vous?
by Salutu · 2006-03-12 · 55 replies
En voyage en Inde depuis plus de 4 mois, j'en arrive fatalement a essayer (mon esprit fonctionne comme ca !), de synthetiser ce que peu representer cette dimension, ce pays, ce sous continent pour moi. Pas encore le bilan, mais j'y pense. Et c'est dans ce cadre qu'il me semble sympa et peut etre instructif que les voyageurs connaissant bien l'Inde, essayent (c'est probablement deja realise) de faire partager cette "synthese" qu'un jour ils ont pense. Bien sur, on peu se demander s'il faut ou non le faire, car reduire en quelques lignes ce qui represente des emotions, du vecu, etc..., n'est jamais riche en soit. Pas grave, c'est l'exercice qui me semble interessant 😉.

Ici, c'est le pays des 330 millions de dieux, Ici, c'est le pays ou rien n'est fini, Ici, c'est le pays ou rien n'est mort, Ici, c'est le pays de la transformation, Ici, tout renait.
L'Iran est une destination confidentielle (d'après RFI)
by Aristomakos · 2006-01-18 · 16 replies
Salut,

Comme vous tous, j'écoute RFI et je vien d'être assez surpris.

En effet, dans une interview, une responsable d'agence de voyage à déclaré que l'Iran était une destination confidentielle, on y trouvait peu de touristes, excepté quelques groupes.

Ceci s'expliquant en grande partie, d'après elle, par les difficultés à obtenir un visa. D'ailleurs, l'Iran, désirant s'ouvrir au tourisme, vient de permettre l'obtention aisée d'un visa à n'importe quel poste frontière.

Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Fores et les iles de la sonde, indonésie
by Nab · 2005-03-24 · 13 replies
en famille(2 adultes, 1 enfant de 10 ans), nous allons à Bali puis à Flores juillet-aout 2005. je n'ai pas de renseignements concernant Flores et les iles de la sonde. qui connait bien? est- agréable avec des enfants? les transports sont ils éprouvants? les habitatns sont-ils accueillants? l'alimentation est elle pimentée? ( pour les enfants, ce n'est pas toujours facile), faut il prendre traitement antipaludéen? la dengue sévit dans ces régions? merci pour vos réponses.nab
Période avril ou mai pour le Japon: éviter la goden-week, la pluie et les prix qui flambent
by Yellowtaxi · 2014-09-15 · 15 replies
Bonjour,

Je prépare actuellement mon voyage au Japon, au premier semestre 2015.

Ayant la chance de partir hors vacances scolaires, j'ai fais quelques recherches afin de trouver une bonne période, sans trop d'affluence, ni prix trop élevés, et avec un climat qui me semble bien.

J'ai retenu la période suivante : entre avril et début juin 2015, pour un voyage de 15 jours entre Tokyo-Kamakura-Kawaguchiko-Kyoto.

La golden-week se situant du 29 avril au 5 mai 2015, cette période est exclue pour nous.

- Que pensez-vous d'avril, mai ou juin ?

- L'affluence et les prix qui flambent sont-ils juste durant la golden-week ou aussi durant les jours précédents et suivants? (Ma crainte étant la difficulté à trouver trains et hôtels...et préférant garder une part de budget importante pour les activités plutôt que pour les hôtels...)

- Que pensez-vous de ces périodes pour voir le Mont Fuji depuis Kawaguchiko (je fais de la photo, j'aimerai donc partir en période ou j'ai plus de chance de pouvoir le photographier, meme si je sais que c'est un peu la loterie...)

Merci à vous !

Maxime.
Votre classement des villes thailandaises où il fait bon vivre sa retraite
by Accolade · 2019-03-24 · 94 replies
Salut , Je suis maintenant à la retraite et j’ai enfin plus de temps pour profiter de la vie ... Avant, c’était quinze jours ou trois semaines de congés a vouloir tout faire tout voir a fond les ballons et vider son compte bancaire à la vitesse de la lumière , mais ça c’était avant ... Maintenant j’aimerais bien me poser plusieurs semaines dans des villes ou régions où il fait bon vivre «  en retraite  » J’ai lu un article sur le classement des villes Françaises où «  il fait bon vivre » J’ai été étonné d’y retrouver des villes comme Rennes Nantes Lyon Grenoble Bordeaux Qu’en est-il en Thaïlande ? Et vous ? Quel serait votre classement des villes Thaïlandaises où il fait bon vivre ? Bien sûr il s’agit de villes avec un bon rapport qualité prix . Sachant que que les villes touristiques en bord de mer ne sont peut-être pas automatiquement éligibles justement en raison des prix hôteliers A vous 😉
Boycott de Koh Tao et îles du sud de la Thaïlande
by Paboo · 2014-10-10 · 114 replies
Des touristes appels a boycott de Koh Tao et iles du sud de la thailande, apres la mort de deux jeunes anglais et passe a tabac deux jeunes birmans . l'heure est au receuillement pas a la fete.

a lire...

http://liberez-somyot.over-blog.com/2014/10/koh-tao-un-membre-d-une-famille-mafieuse-locale-serait-il-le-responsable-du-meurtre-des-deux-jeunes-touristes-britanniques.html

des commentaires...

Cest horrible j'ai vu les photos la fille à la tête éclaté et son copain poignardé dans le crane quelle tragédie c'était un massacre. J’espère que ces fdp payerons

Page bloquée censurée Inconsultable depuis la Thaïlande

J'avoue le crâne tout aplatit, trop gore... Visiter la thailande, il y a plein de belle region, et le nord....

pour une fois qu'on peut trouver les coupables........

Il faut sauver ces deux gamins de la peine de mort.....
Quatre mois pour visiter le Maharashtra, l'Orissa, l'Andhra Pradesh, le Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karnataka
by Texola · 2007-10-28 · 21 replies
Namaste,

Nous sommes 3: Romain (28a), notre fille Lynn (4a) et moi (gaelle 25a). Nous partons pour l inde du sud pour 4 mois (début decembre à fin mars). nous comptons faire les 6 régions dans l'ordre suivant: 1 Maharashtra 2 Orissa 3 Andhra Pradesh 4 Tamil Nadu 5 Kerala 6 Karnataka L' Orissa étant une région beaucoup moins touristique que les autres, j'aimerai avoir les témoignages de personnes y étant déja allées. 4 mois est- ce suffisant pour profiter pleinement de ce circuit, en tenant compte du fait que nous favorisons les trajets de courtes distance (5 à 8h de train maxi) et les chemins "hors circuit"? Nous avons opté pour un parcours fermé (arrivée et départ de Mumbai). Notre médecin qui est adepte de l' Inde, nous préconise d'éviter le Tamil Nadu actuellement. Qu' en pensez-vous? Avez vous des informations? Enfin, j'aimerai beaucoup bénéficier de l'expérience du bénévolat sur une courte durée (1 sem), pour renouveler l' expérience à plus long terme l' an prochain. Avez vous des témoignages, adresses, conseils ou autres? je suis ouverte à tout type de "mission" sauf l'orphelinat qui requiert déja bon nombre de volontaires.

Merci d'avance!
Laos: que sont devenus les jeunes réfugiés Hmong expulsés il y a deux mois de Thaïlande?
by Barbot · 2006-02-03 · 92 replies
Il y a près de deux mois jour pour jour, 27 réfugiés Hmong –une adulte et 26 adolescents de 13 à 16 ans--, hébergés au centre d'accueil provisoire de Ban Houai Nam Khao (province de Phetchaboun, Thaïlande) ont été expulsés par les autorités thailandaises vers le Laos, selon des informations concordantes parvenues au Mouvement Lao pour les droits de l'Homme (MLDH).

Ce groupe d'adolescents –21 jeunes filles et 5 garçons—avaient été interpellés par la police thailandaise le 28 novembre 2005, alors qu'ils revenaient d'une répétition de chants, en prévision des fêtes de Noël. Transportés par autocar vers la ville frontalière de Nongkhai, ils ont été expulsés vers le Laos, début décembre, sans que leurs parents en soient informés.

Selon les médias internationaux, le sort de ces adolescents n'est pas encore connu à ce jour, en dépit des démarches multiples entreprises par les autorités de l'ONU, de l'Union Européenne, des Etats-Unis et d'Australie, tant auprès de Bangkok que de Vientiane.

Au-delà de l'imbroglio politico-diplomatique entourant cette dramatique affaire, le MLDH s'élève contre les conditions d'expulsion de ces adolescents, et appelle les autorités de la République démocratique Lao (RDPL) à donner sans tarder des nouvelles aux familles de ces mineurs, à garantir la sécurité et la santé physique et morale de ces jeunes, puisque ceux-ci se trouvent depuis près de deux mois en territoire laotien.

Pour le MLDH, il est peu vraisemblable que l'expulsion d'une trentaine de personnes, de surcroît membres de la minorité ethnique hmong, se soit faite à l'insu des autorités de la RDPL, qui reste pour les observateurs un pays sous surveillance où rien ne se passe sans le feu vert des instances du Parti-Etat.

En conséquence, il est plus que temps pour les dirigeants de régime laotien d'arrêter de s'abriter derrière des tergiversations cyniques et des propos langue de bois, et de coopérer pleinement avec les organisations internationales pour mettre fin au calvaire de ces adolescents et permettre sans délai leur retour auprès de leurs parents en Thailande.

Le Mouvement Lao pour les droits de l'Homme réitère, à cette occasion, son appel à la communauté internationale lui demandant de venir en aide aux milliers d'hommes, de femmes et d'enfants Lao-Hmongs, pourchassés et éliminés jour après jour par les soldats de la RDPL dans la jungle de Saysomboun et de Bolikhamsay, et de faire pression sur le régime laotien afin que la liberté, la démocratie et les droits de l'Homme soient respectés dans ce pays.

Voici la liste des personnes arrêtées le 28 novembre: 1 adulte: Mme Zoua Yang - 21 jeunes filles: May Nhia, Pakou Vang, Ia Lor, Pahia Yang, Hnou Xiong, Pahoua Yang, Yangyoua Vang, Maymoua Vang, Mee Yang, Choua Vue, Pakou Vue, Yer Vue, Zong Vue, Ker Vue, Yia Vue, Kia Thao, Youa Thao, Sheng Yang, Kia Vue, Pahua Yang, Xee Yang - 7 garçons (deux n'ont pas été expulsés): Dang Vang, Chay Vang, Neng Yang, Meng Xiong, Meng Yang, Chan Thao, Pao Yang
Comment est ressentie la chute de l'euro pour les personnes vivant sur place au Vietnam?
by Mavn · 2010-05-19 · 55 replies
Bonjour ou bonsoir à tous celles ou ceux qui peuvent répondre,

A toutes les personnes qui vivent sur place au Vietnam, comment est ressentie la chute de l'euro ?😠😠😠

Pour un voyage très proche, faut-il prendre des dollars ???? ou conserver nos petits euros ????

Merci de vos réponses.

Cordialement.

Mavn
Enorme contravention dans l'état d'Arizona
by M1ka · 2011-12-24 · 168 replies
Bonjour... Voilà un événement qui vient à gâcher xmas et mon road trip sur la côte ouest...

Voilà, en entrant dans la ville de Page, j'ai dépassé un conducteur très lent sur une non passing lane... Il n'y avait ni piétons, ni voiture arrivant en face, donc j'ai doublé. 5 minutes après en conduisant dans la ville, je me fais arrêter par 2 voitures de cops... Really scary, je pensais pas que c'était pour ça...

Ils me verbalisent, contrôlent mon identité ainsi que ma copine, puis ils me donnent le ticket sans le montant, je demande donc au cop si je peux payer tout de suite, pas de problème, je les suis donc au minuscule palais de justice de Page...

Mais voilà ma surprise, en arrivant, c'est 1000$ de ticket qu'il me donne... Je pensais que ça allait être dans les 200$, 300$ grand maximum... Des barjos ces arizoniens... Bref, en voyant ma tête déconfite, le juge qui nous écoutait m'a dit de passer à la cour directement, il m'a donc entendu... Il m'a dit que pour ce genre d'infraction, j'avais de la chance de n'avoir été traité qu'en civil law et non criminal law, cet enflure m'a donné de l'espoir soit en réduisant ou en faisant sauté le ticket mais il a m'a dit que c'était le grand minimum... Du coup je me retrouve au mieux avec un plan de paiement, 100$ tous les mois pendant 10 mois à régler!

Me voilà donc avec un ticket de 1000$ à payé pour cette connerie..

Bref, questions à la française maintenant! Je suis étudiant et étant aux states, mes parents m'aident déjà pour le voyage, j'ai encore 6 mois ici...

Qu'est ce que je risque si je ne paye pas du tout? J'ai vraiment pas l'argent pour régler une telle somme, ils vont vraiment me ruiner totalement si je paye... Je ne compte pas retourner en Arizona du tout, ai-je une chance de passer à travers?

Je prends tout bon conseil, ou la réalité 🙁 thanks

Mika
Rencontre VF à Paris le 10 décembre 2011
by Aurorinca · 2011-11-23 · 32 replies
Bonjour à tous, Je voudrais organiser une soirée entre voyageurs le samedi 10 décembre sur Paris. Mon prochain départ n'est pas "d'main la veille" donc en attendant je serais ravie de pouvoir partager mes expériences avec vous et réciproquement. J'ai été pour ma part très orientée Amérique latine jusqu'à présent et vise maintenant l'Asie - sachant que toute région m'intéresse. J'aimerais voir ce meeting comme un voyage par procuration, une petite échappée belle, dosée d'ouverture d'esprit et de bonne humeur, entre admirateurs de paysages et cultures diverses. Je n'ai jamais rien organisé de la sorte ; Je devrais certainement être plus précise mais attends justement vos retours pour arrêter un lieu, une heure et un nombre de participants. A bientôt j'espère ! Aurore
Meilleure période pour un safari en Tanzanie (avec enfant)
by Jonanaclem · 2016-03-25 · 137 replies
Bonjour,

Après quelques voyages en amérique (sud et nord) et en Asie, nous souhaitons découvrir l'Afrique...tant pour ses animaux que pour ses paysages. Nous avons 2 possibilités: en février ou en juillet. Les 2 mois semblent bons "sur le papier": saison sèche etc...mais je voudrais connaître l'avis de personnes qui ont fait un safari durant ces 2 mois. Nous y serons avec notre fils de 11 ans, - nous ne souhaitons pas de trop longues journées de route donc des étapes assez proches, - observation des animaux bien entendu (plus les fauves et autres mammifères que les oiseaux) mais pas forcément la grande migration...mais pas non plus passer des heures à rouler sans rien voir! - voir le Kilimandjaro si possible (pas dans les nuages) - éviter les routes boueuses donc les pluies.

Voilà en gros nos souhaits. a savoir que nous passerons par une agence pour avoir un safari en voiture privée. je suis en contact avec des agences mais certaines me disent février d'autres juillet lorsque j'énonce nos souhaits, voilà pourquoi je me tourne vers vous!

On hésite également à faire un détour par le Kenya/ parc Amboseli pour le Kilimandjaro mais je ne sais pas si cela en vaut le surcout...

Je suis preneuse de tous les avis surtout pour ceux qui ont voyagé en famille, merci, Clem
Cherche personnes sérieuses et déterminées pour reprendre mon restaurant "cuisine du monde" à Bangkok Centre
by Boumbeat · 2009-11-30 · 32 replies
Bonjour,

Je m'appelle Michel, je suis tombé amoureux de la Thailande depuis mon premier séjour en 1999.

Avec mon ami Jean Paul, et ma femme Sissi, nous avons tout laché en France pour réaliser un projet fou, nous avons monter un resto sympa et original.

Cela nous a pris du temps, 1 an pour faire les papiers, trouver des fournisseurs, des contacts serieux (architecte, comptable, avocat, employés), faire des devis, trouver un local bien situé, apprendre la langue, faire les travaux etc etc.

Nous avons ouvert en Janvier 2009 (avec 6 mois de retard!) le thème du restaurant : les plats les plus populaires du monde dans un seul restaurant. Ca s'appelle EAT'S MY WORLD !

Notre investissement de départ a été de 80, 000 euros tout compris.

EAT'S MY WORLD c'est les Antilles, le Maroc, le Sénégal, le Mexique, la France, le Vietnam, l'Italie, le Liban et beaucoups d'autres pays à découvrir également en musique !

Après des débuts moyens, nous affichons aujourd'hui des résultats encourageants, les médias tel que la tv et les magazines les plus réputés de Bangkok se sont interessés à nous !

Le restaurant mesure 135m² pour 50 couverts, il est situé dans le plus grand centre commercial de l'asie du sud est, CENTRAL WORLD BANGKOK.

Plus de 150, 000 visiteurs par jour en moyenne dans ce complexe et il est situé en plein centre ville !

Tout ca c'est bien beau, mais quand un bébé arrive en cours de route on fait quoi ? On rentre au bercail !

Eh oui la question ne s'est pas posé bien longtemps...

Nous avons décider de quitter la Thailande pour revenir en France, éduquer notre enfant et revenir plus tard dans ce magnifique pays ! Le soleil nous manque déja !

Une nouvelle vie commence pour nous en france, Jean Paul s'est marié entre-temps, il restera en thailande.

Voila, nous recherchons des personnes sérieuses et motivées comme nous, pour prendre le relais et developper cette affaire, l'aventure n'est pas terminée car ce "bébé resto" a besoin de vous !

Si vous etes interessés, sérieux et motivé je vous laisse mon mail pour plus d'infos : michel.phan@hotmail.fr

Je suis ouvert à toute proposition sérieuse et disponible pour une rencontre sur Paris, les infos et caracteristiques du resto seront envoyée par mail.

Les vacances en thailande c'est super, y vivre c'est mieux !
Thailand Travel Journal: From Chiang Mai to Bangkok, We Didn’t Buddha Our Fun
by Jojoone1 · 2017-08-30 · 204 replies


We’re excited to share our sixth travel journal with photos from Southeast Asia, this one entirely dedicated to Thailand. As a reminder, our previous travel journals can be accessed directly by clicking on the username "jojoone1" to the left of each post.

For a change, let’s start with the conclusion: our trip left us with an excellent memory. Very often, everything went like clockwork—short wait times, quick problem-solving, and the curious feeling of being pampered. Sometimes, life isn’t so cruel after all.

It’s only fair to admit that day after day, we encountered Thais who were smiling, helpful, kind, funny, and sometimes even touching. There were a few exceptions, but they were just the trees hiding the (tropical) forest. After this year’s experience, we won’t be the ones to tell you that Thailand isn’t the Land of Smiles or that laughter is just for business. We’ve witnessed so many kind behaviors and gestures that we no longer understand how anyone could complain about the people here—except for bad experiences in ultra-touristy spots packed with travelers lacking any finesse. It got to the point where it made us reflect. And we concluded that we probably have funny, friendly faces (?). We also know we’re the first to smile at them, and every day there, we show respect to everyone we meet. In any case, we have fond thoughts for many of the people we crossed paths with. Thanks to them, our trip took on a whole new human dimension.

A quick note about the photos: last year, the VoyageForum team made a change to how photos are uploaded. This gives us the choice between displaying high-definition photos (but losing ownership rights) or non-HD photos (less sharp, but the originals won’t be spread online without compensation or credit). We opted for the second solution, if only as a matter of principle. It does leave us with some regrets, especially since Françoise switched to the Canon EOS 7D Mark II, whose performance is notably better than the 7D.

Our first trip with Emirates was satisfying but left a mixed impression. Sure, it was the first time all four of our flights were on an Airbus A380. The crews were super friendly, and the meal trays were the best on the first two flights. On the return flights, the meals weren’t great and weren’t filling enough. Overall, the crews seemed disorganized and rushed—clearly some new recruits. The Doha-Paris flight, if memory serves, was on an A380-600, and in that configuration, we were packed in like it hadn’t been in years. In conclusion, it’s hard to say at this stage whether Qatar or Emirates comes out on top.

From our perspective, the journey from northern Thailand to Bangkok can be done via two different routes. This year, we took one of them, which allowed us to alternate between well-known destinations and original visits. Note that some of this year’s visits include cities we’ve already been to. So for a more complete view (Bangkok and Chiang Mai, for example), you’ll need to check out our previous travel journals.

We’ve improved our Thai vocabulary with a few more words and hope next year to move from kindergarten to first grade... For those reading us for the first time, we can only advise against visiting this country on an organized tour or looking for a French-speaking guide. The Thais have organized themselves well—they now have proven tourism practices. Maybe a guidebook for culture, a few basic English words, and a little organization are all you need for a great trip.

CHIANG MAI

Chiang Mai and its region are packed with treasures—so much so that one or two visits might not be enough.

At the airport, you go to a counter that provides a taxi ticket. The fare is 150 baht for a regular car and 200 baht for a larger vehicle. When our turn came, a large vehicle showed up, but we were only charged 150 baht. Okay, fine.

The hotels we’d selected three years ago had significantly increased their rates, so we had to find a new base. In the city center, hotels with large pools are overpriced, and despite the wide selection, it was hard to decide. We ended up at a hotel near the airport, the Baan U Sabai Boutique House. The superior room with a balcony can be negotiated for just under 40 €. It’s a beautiful, fairly new complex in traditional teak style, with very well-kept rooms and a long pool. Given the rather stormy weather in early July, it was the first time in Thailand we swam in cool water. It encouraged us to swim rather than just lounge...



At the end of the hotel street, you come out onto a busy main road where you can hail a songthaew (a kind of shared taxi). It’s easy to be offered a ride to the city center for 2 x 20 baht, but getting a return trip for less than 2 x 40 baht is tough, especially in the evening. Our red songthaew took us straight to Chiang Mai Gate, one of the city’s gates, located southeast of the historic square. We then took Phra Pok Khlao Road for a few dozen meters and chose the first little restaurant that looked nice. Within minutes, we had our dishes and smoothies for a total of 235 baht. Great quality, despite the place looking very touristy. The owner set the tone by handing out smiles left and right.

There’s an amazing spot in Chiang Mai to grab a coffee: Baan Phor Liang Meun. Once you reach Chiang Mai Gate, take Phra Pok Khlao Road for a few meters, then turn onto soi 2 (alley 2). It’s actually the first on the left. After a few dozen meters, you’ll find yourself walking alongside what looks like a Khmer temple.



When you enter, you’re in a vast space—like a temple-garden—where you can eat a small dish or sip a good café crème as if you were in Angkor. The tables are far apart, so you’re as close to birds and squirrels as you are to other customers.



In the small building where the staff works, they provide high-quality mosquito repellent for free—something we’ll now buy regularly at 7/11. They’re small plastic bottles, mostly pink or orange, with Thai writing and "floral fragrance" in English. The scent is actually pleasant. Remember to shake the bottle before opening and pressing, or you’ll end up with cream all over your shorts...

The creator of this space has been sculpting terracotta works since the early 1980s using clay from the Lamphun region—the most consistent clay found in all of Thailand. This café is like visiting an ancient temple, with its abundance of statues, high-reliefs, and bas-reliefs. It’s undeniably a romantic spot for couples—a haven of calm in a very lively city.









Coupe du monde de football: ambiances à travers le monde?
by Williama · 2006-06-10 · 536 replies
Ami(e)s voyageurs, correspondants de tous les pays et amateurs de foot,

A l'occasion de cet évènement planétaire, pouvez-vous nous donner vos impressions et décrire l'ambiance depuis les différents endroits où vous vous trouvez actuellement sur la planète. Par exemple comment sont les rues de Buenos Aires ou à Trinidad et Tobago ce soir après la bonne performance de ces 2 équipes? Comment vit-on les matchs à Berlin, à Barcelone, en Dalmatie, dans les cafés d'Istanbul ou sous une yourte en Mongolie? Par avance merci de vos interventions et descriptions, de vos joies, pleurs et colères contre ce "foutu pénaltie sifflé à la 90è minute"!! du vécu dans votre coin, des fiestas actuelles et les plus belles à venir... Voilà à+, et pour ma part "Allez les bleus!!!"
Uganda: 20 days discovering authenticity
by 27fifi · 2019-12-15 · 178 replies
Preamble:

For summer 2019, the idea was to return to Africa. We had already been to Namibia in 2017 (+ a few days in Botswana and the end of the trip at Victoria Falls), which we loved, and a trip to Asia in 2018 (Borneo, Perhentian, and Singapore), a nature-focused trip but a bit disappointing due to environmental destruction. The desire to return to Africa was very strong. We wanted a change of scenery, nature, discoveries, to step out of our little comfort zone (a bit, anyway!) and experience travel differently. In short, we dreamed of authenticity, and we weren’t disappointed.

We traveled as a family of four with our daughters, aged 19 and 17. When the urge for Africa hit, Uganda quickly stood out, especially for the chance to see rare animals, particularly the famous mountain gorillas. When I looked into the budget, I was quickly disheartened. It’s really expensive. Too expensive… Then, after reading a few trip reports on "VoyageForum" (thanks Muriel J!), I decided to ask a local agency for a quote. The first contact was very friendly and responsive, and the initial offer for two weeks fit our budget :). A few images gathered from the internet (especially Sipi Falls) finally convinced us all. I asked for an adapted offer with a few more sites to extend the trip to three weeks and cover a fairly complete visit to the country (which, of course, increased the budget! To stay within an acceptable range, we prioritized activities over accommodations and regularly chose the cheapest options, with 2-3 nice lodges in between). It’s booked! We were in October 2018, and the first thing to do was reserve permits to see the gorillas and chimpanzees. Then, the agency took care of all the bookings except for the international flights, which we booked with Ethiopian Airlines. A few months of waiting to look forward to… and a little worry too! Two events didn’t reassure us: the kidnapping of an American tourist by four men at the DRC border and the Ebola outbreak in Congo, with confirmed cases in Uganda by mid-June…

Here we are in July, and departure is approaching. The suitcases are packed (warm clothes, long, short, dark, light, practical, sun, rain, hiking/trekking shoes, flip-flops—clothes for every situation! Don’t forget: headlamp (essential!), binoculars, cameras), and we’re ready.

One day before departure, our agency Mpolampola, through its manager Paul, informs us that he won’t be the one taking care of us during the trip but another guide named Moses. He has a big problem with a vehicle and can’t do otherwise. For us, as long as everything is okay, no worries, especially since I had read glowing reviews about Moses, who turned out to be a very pleasant guide, cautious (most important) on the road, clear about all the activities, and an expert on birds, his specialty. We briefly met Paul in the middle of the trip, who is also very friendly. In short, we 100% recommend this agency. Flights to Entebbe went smoothly; we arrived around 10:30 AM, filled out health forms (Ebola information signs everywhere), visas, baggage claim, and met Moses, who took us directly to the vehicle. It was in pretty good condition with huge tires (we’d understand why later!), but it had quite a few miles (400,000 on the odometer!). Just missing a seatbelt… Okay, it’s Africa!

Now, here’s our day-by-day itinerary, which I’ll summarize briefly with ratings for each activity: ****TOPISSIME (Amazing) ***Very good **Good *Meh

Day 1) Departure from the airport at 11:45 AM for some currency exchange. Stop along the way at the equator for a meal and souvenir photo! Arrival at Lake Mburo Park *** around 5:00 PM. Even before entering the park, we saw lots of antelopes, zebras, elks, etc.—it’s magnificent. On the way, we had already encountered many goats and cows, and we were impressed by their enormous horns. We enjoyed a nice game drive until about 7:00 PM, when we reached our lodge, one of the nicest of the trip, Eagle’s Nest ****, with a magnificent view, a tent with a nice bathroom/shower, and a very good meal.

Day 2) Departure at 7:00 AM for a game drive; we encountered many animals again, especially antelopes, zebras, and birds. There are no giraffes, lions, or cheetahs in this park. We didn’t get lucky enough to see a leopard… :-) Then, we continued to Lake Bunyonyi ***, where the road and views are very beautiful, but we were shocked to see locals (mostly women and children) breaking stones by hand on the mountainside in very precarious safety conditions. There are regularly dramatic accidents because, over time, entire sections detach and cause landslides. These stones are then used for road construction… Another world… This was the only place we saw this. Lake Bunyonyi is a nice stop (but less exotic in our opinion since we have many lakes back home too!). We took a boat to our accommodation, Byoona Amagara ***, which has a lot of charm. We stayed in huts called "geodomes," completely open to nature, so it was very cool at night. To reach the toilets located below, you had to be brave! The meal consisted of lake shrimp—good but a bit bland.

Day 3) After a good breakfast, departure at 9:00 AM to visit three islands. We took several nice walks with beautiful views of the lake and islands. A local meal was served on the last island. At 1:00 PM, we met Moses for the rest of the program and headed to Ruhija in Bwindi Forest****. The landscapes are breathtaking. After two hours of driving and many photo stops, we arrived at our accommodation near the trekking starting point, Ruhija Gorilla Friends Resort **. We stayed in a room instead of the initially planned tents, which was just as well because there was a lot of wind during the night. We still had time for an activity and decided to meet the Bwata pygmies despite the bad reviews in the guide… The first part of the visit was quite nice, with a visit to a school where the children gave us a very joyful welcome. We had a great time listening to them sing and dance! Then we met the Bwata pygmies who live on the edge of the forest. When Bwindi Forest was declared a national park, they had to leave their habitat because their activities weren’t compatible with nature and wildlife protection. We left on a somewhat sad note… The visit ended with a local doctor explaining different medicinal plants, and we watched the making of local beer from sorghum. Good meal. We had butterflies in our stomachs—tomorrow was a big day! I admit I was a bit stressed, not entirely confident in my physical abilities…

Day 4) After a short night due to excitement, breakfast, and departure at 7:30 AM. First, it started calmly with singing and dancing. Then, a 15-minute briefing and group assignments. No one asked if we had any physical problems or anything (when booking, I had inquired a bit, and they told me groups were assigned based on physical abilities). We were assigned to the Mukiza group. At first, I was pretty happy—it was a fairly large group with babies :). The ranger explained that for now, they didn’t know where the gorillas were… the trackers couldn’t find them… Oh… (that’s not a good sign!!!) We set off at a good pace, first on a reasonably sloped path. We were accompanied by a family of four Italians and five porters (four for us!). After an hour, the ranger stopped us and informed us they still couldn’t find them—they had fought with another group the day before and scattered throughout the forest, so they were very far away, and we needed to move faster… Hmm… we picked up the pace (we weren’t going slowly before!!!) and walked for another good hour—down, up, down again, up again, we kept going, but always more or less on paths. Then another stop. A 10-minute break waiting for news. The news wasn’t very precise, it seemed! The ranger decided to cut through the forest—machetes were used to clear the path. We descended unimaginable slopes, then climbed back up. Our stick kept getting stuck; luckily, our porter helped us, held our hands, and the terrain was vertical! An hour later, another stop: we heard gorilla cries (yay!!!). False hope—we waited again for news from the trackers, who informed our ranger that it was a non-habituated family, so we couldn’t see them. Cold shower—we had to go all the way back up and return to the starting point to maybe see another group. But time was running out… We arrived around 1:30 PM; all the other groups had already left long ago. Our guide was worried because we still had a long drive ahead. We quickly ate a banana, and off we went for another trek (I was exhausted!). Luckily, this group was close—about 45 minutes of steep descent (I was already thinking about the climb back and considering being adopted by a gorilla ). The forest was sublime, with magnificent tree ferns—the place was truly splendid. Finally, we were there. The porters stayed behind, we grabbed our cameras, and followed the ranger. The progress wasn’t easy, but suddenly, a female was in front of us, curled up in a little ball, eating—so cute. The emotion overwhelmed us. But she moved away—it’s hard to observe them; they move constantly, and the terrain is very steep and uneven. We saw a female descending from a tree with a baby on her back—too adorable. Then, here was the silverback, enormous, incredible, yet so calm and peaceful. He ate quietly and gave us a nice demonstration of nostril exploration! We could observe them for a good hour, but photographing them wasn’t easy because they kept moving, and we could barely stand! Toward the end, a large male (black back) suddenly stood up and decided to pass right where I was! I ended up in the bushes, and the male passed in front of me just a few centimeters away (he stepped on one of my daughters’ feet!) followed by the whole family. Just an exceptional moment. It was time to leave; we had to climb back up. I dreaded it because, I admit, I was exhausted. We finished the hike after 4:00 PM, exhausted but happy. The ranger gave us diplomas, and we didn’t linger because we still had a long drive—we needed to reach Ishasha before nightfall. Our guide was a bit stressed. If we were to do it again, we’d spend an extra night in Bwindi. However, it seems finishing so late is exceptional—it never happens, according to our guide! The road between Bwindi and Ishasha is sublime, with extraordinary landscapes, and despite the late hour, we regularly asked our guide to stop for photos. We arrived at Enjojo *** Lodge around 6:00 PM. The huts are located quite far from the reception and the bathrooms, a bit far from the huts, but otherwise, it was very nice.

Day 5) Departure at 8:00 AM after a good breakfast with the hope of seeing tree-climbing lions (no luck!). Overall, there weren’t many animals, and we arrived around 12:45 PM at our next stop, Parkview Safari Lodge ****, with a magnificent view, a beautiful family bungalow, and a good meal. We enjoyed a short relaxation by the lovely pool. At 4:00 PM, we left to see Kyambura Gorge *** and hike there. Unfortunately, this activity is no longer available, so we walked around the area—it was very beautiful. Back at the hotel, a little rest after the previous day wasn’t a bad idea! Reading, swimming, meals, and dances made the end of the day enjoyable.

Day 6) Departure at 6:30 AM—one of our daughters was sick (stomachache, cold sweats…). Safari in Queen Elizabeth ** (Kaseny Plains)—a bit disappointing. Stop by the salt lake with a nice view. A small market, but we weren’t thrilled by the crafts (overall, apart from some beautiful baskets/plates, there wasn’t much, and the wooden objects were, in our opinion, much less pretty than in Namibia). Then we took the crater road (27 km long) **** with magnificent landscapes. However, you absolutely must close the windows because it’s infested with tsetse flies. At noon, we arrived at Mweya, where we stayed in basic rooms, but the restaurant was well-placed with a beautiful view of the Kazinga Channel. At 2:00 PM, we enjoyed a magnificent cruise **** on the channel. Elephants, antelopes, crocodiles, hippos (including adorable babies), buffaloes, all kinds of birds. Wow!!! Two hours of pure bliss. Quiet end of the day playing cards with a view of the channel and elephants.

Day 7) Departure at 6:00 AM—still sick, we weren’t sure if it was due to the preventive treatment (Malarone) or something else… Another game drive in Queen Elizabeth (Kaseny Plains) and breakfast by the salt lake. Overall, we were a bit disappointed by this park. Then we took the road to Crater Lakes***, again with very beautiful landscapes. A hike of about an hour and a half allowed us to discover these beautiful crater lakes (the water mainly comes from the Rwenzoris). We crossed pretty villages and had nice encounters. End of the day at Tinka’s Home ****, with a family. We loved this place—very welcoming, where we took a cooking class with our hosts. A really great time. After the meal, we enjoyed African stories and dances. Really awesome.

Day 8) Departure at 7:30 AM for another highly anticipated discovery—the chimpanzees in Kibale Forest ****. We went to the meeting point and were split into groups of six, each with a guide. We saw three different groups, and for the last group, we followed a chimpanzee (slightly more comfortable running in the forest than we were!) that led us to the group. Their cries are very impressive, and we could observe them well, even though they were often high up in the trees. We were lucky enough to see two on the ground, very close to us. It was magnificent. End of the encounter and return to the starting point—it was noon. We went back to Tinka’s Home for the meal (delicious!). At 2:00 PM, we hiked in Bigodi Swamp ***, a marsh surrounded by beautiful vegetation, especially huge papyrus, and inhabited by many birds and monkeys. We saw, among others, black-and-white colobus monkeys, red colobus monkeys, and vervet monkeys. We also visited a basket-weaving workshop where we bought two beautiful baskets. Then a short stop in Fort Portal, where we stayed for two nights at Ruwenzori View Guesthouse ***, a nice place with a family room and very good communal meals.

Day 9) Departure at 8:00 AM for a hike in the Rwenzori****—it was a bit chaotic today. First, we had to exchange shillings because we wouldn’t have another chance in the following days. At the bank, employees went to get the bills by motorcycle from other buildings—it was quite surreal! And it took time! Then there was a misunderstanding between the organizer and me… I really wanted to see the region where chameleons are found in the Rwenzori—this region is south of the mountain range, and we were in the north! Anyway, the program included an ascent in the northern part with a positive elevation gain of over 1,500 meters… Talking to the guide scheduled for this hike (Noah), we explained that we really wanted to discover the vegetation and these famous chameleons, not necessarily achieve a physical feat… (we’d had enough!). The decision was made to go south, which meant quite a bit of driving. The hike was really enjoyable, with magnificent vegetation by the river. We saw three of the four chameleon species present, including the famous three-horned chameleon. The region is superb. We ended with a drink at Ruboni Camp, which has a magnificent view of the region (ideally, we should have stayed there). Two hours of driving to finish, and a good meal :).

Day 10) Departure at 8:00 AM—we had a long drive to Ziwa Rhino Ranch****. We passed through Hoima, had lunch in Masindi, and arrived in time for the rhino tracking walk. We could approach them closely on foot—it was impressive. We saw eight. Since we were staying on-site in the guesthouse **, we received precise safety instructions for moving between the rooms and the restaurant. And we quickly understood why!

Day 11) Departure at 6:00 AM for breakfast—surprise, in front of our room, several large rhinos were sleeping (we had also heard a lot of animal noises during the night—rhinos but also what seemed to be predators). So we had to take a detour to reach the restaurant! Second surprise—next to the restaurant, just three meters away at most, two mothers and their baby were also sleeping! Memorable! Then we had an appointment for the shoebill trek and canoe ride **** (package with the previous day’s walk). So there we were, in our boots, splashing through 30 cm of water in search of the shoebill (I really wanted to see one :))! It was really fun, and luck was on our side—a shoebill had just landed in the distance! We approached as best we could and observed it from afar. What a strange bird! There are very few left, and Uganda is one of the countries where the chances of seeing one are quite good. The tour continued with a canoe cruise where we saw a herd of cows (the famous ones with enormous horns) being swum as a dowry to the father of the future bride! A funny spectacle. This stop wasn’t the most anticipated, but we all thought it was really worth the detour. Road to Murchison Falls Park, and arrival around noon at Red Chili Rest Camp **, where we stayed for two nights (family banda). Good meal. Then a cruise to Murchison Falls*** where we disembarked and continued on foot. It was pretty. Back to Red Chili.

Day 12) This morning, early departure for a cruise in search of the shoebill*** (booked in case we didn’t see one at Ziwa). The landscapes were pretty, but there weren’t many birds in the end. We spotted the chosen one from afar after the first 10 minutes—so the suspense didn’t last long :-) It was a nice activity but quite long—5 hours. In the afternoon, safari in Murchison Park****—this park is sublime, the landscapes fabulous. Really one of our favorite parts of the trip. Lots of animals and even a leopard spotted with binoculars because it was far away! Night at Red Chili.

Day 13) Departure for the first morning ferry—it was drizzling, the sky was threatening at first, so the landscape was spectacular! Beautiful contrasts. In the middle of the morning, we were lucky to observe a whole group of lions, first from afar, then with a little patience, the whole group approached until they passed beside and in front of our vehicle. What emotion and excitement! We could then observe large groups of giraffes. They were magnificent. The morning was incredible. Then we headed to our lodge, Fort Murchison ****, and on the way, we saw a whole group of elephants—the view was magnificent. We had a very good meal and enjoyed the pool a bit. We also met Paul, the organizer of our trip. Very nice :). In the late afternoon, off for a short safari in the park. We slept in very well-equipped tents.

Day 14) Today, we had a long drive to Kidepo Park. It was raining, which didn’t help our guide—according to him, the tracks near Kidepo turn to mud with rain and become difficult to navigate. We saw, among other things, a bus in a bad situation in the ditch. Some sections were really tricky, and we were glad to have a driver. The end of the trip—the landscape was spectacular and original, and we saw some traditional villages. We arrived at Kidepo quite late. Short safari in the park before reaching the accommodation. We booked two simple bandas in the park camp**. It was clean but didn’t hold up well in the rain . The restaurant was very nice, though.

Day 15) The day was dedicated to discovering Kidepo Park **** where the landscapes were again superb. First encounter with a lioness resting on a rock. We saw other lions later and observed them for a long time. There were almost no other tourists in the park. Our daughter wasn’t feeling well, and by the time we arrived at the lodge, she had a temperature of 39.5°C (103.1°F)… A nap was necessary. In the late afternoon, we returned to the spot where we had seen the lions that morning, and they were still there—they weren’t happy because rain was threatening! It was a great photo opportunity. Then came the downpour, and our driver urged us to return quickly because the tracks were becoming impassable. Indeed, a jeep was in the ditch… The return was eventful, and several times we slid without being able to do anything… Wow, what a day!

Day 16) No safari this morning because of impassable tracks—the road to Kotido*** was longer than expected as we had to take a detour. The landscapes along the way were surprising. We finally arrived around 1:00 PM at the accommodation and left at 3:00 PM to visit the largest manyatta in East Africa with two translators. It was incredible—a very beautiful experience. The manyatta is immense and has 28,000 inhabitants. Night at Karamojaarts guesthouse*—very average meal.

Day 17) Departure for Moroto****—on the way, we saw many bird species. Moroto doesn’t look like other Ugandan cities. Life there seems very pleasant. We arrived at Kara-Tunga and had a bite to eat. At 4:00 PM, we left to visit a Karamojong village. We enjoyed beautiful dances and watched communal games—it was fun and so authentic. Then we headed to a kraal (where shepherds and herds are) to set up our camp. Moses had to get used to the idea of sleeping in the tribe in a tent! It was incredible to find ourselves in this universe. The place was beautiful, and we had a great time with the Karamojong. Some had never seen white people… had never been in a car… Their culture is incredible. During the evening, around the fire, to our guide’s dismay (a bird enthusiast), they grilled hornbills! On our side, we ate a meal prepared by Kara-Tunga for our sensitive stomachs! Night in a tent.

Day 18) Dawn wake-up in the fog—the atmosphere was quite strange. Our daughter was attacked by a cow—fortunately, more fear than harm, but she ended up with a lot of thorns in her buttocks and thighs ! Then we left for the Mount Elgon region, specifically Sipi Falls****. Lacam Lodge****, perched on the edge of the cliff with a direct view of one of the falls, was just magnificent. The view and landscapes were fabulous. Big favorite. We had dinner and then went for a hike to visit the three falls in the region, partly in the rain. The landscapes were breathtaking! Sunset at Lacam Lodge with the sun setting over the waterfall. We couldn’t get enough and stayed to admire until nightfall!

Day 19) Visit to coffee plantations*** where we were given all the useful explanations to understand the culture and the incredible work required for this product, which is ultimately not very glorified. The visit was very interesting, and we drank very good coffee with the owners. Last photos at Lacam Lodge, and then departure for Jinja, where we arrived in the middle of the afternoon. We took a small cruise to see the source of the Nile*. Very touristy and not at all to our taste… Then a meal at Jinja Base Camp** where we enjoyed guacamole. Our guide Moses left us because another group was waiting for him!

Day 20) Road to Kampala***, the market, the Gaddafi Mosque. Short but interesting visit. Last meal in Entebbe by Lake Victoria, where we almost felt like we were by the sea. Transfer to the airport and return to Switzerland…

Epilogue: All four of us were enchanted by this trip, which will undoubtedly remain one of the most beautiful we’ve ever taken. Talking about it gives me chills and brings tears to my eyes. It was simply a magnificent experience. However, I wouldn’t recommend this trip to everyone because you often have to overlook small inconveniences like toilets (the worst of my life) and certain comfort details that, for us, remain details but could be important to others.

Our favorites: - The gorilla trek - The cruise on Kazinga Channel - The Fort Portal region - The Rwenzori Mountains - The chimpanzee trek - Murchison Falls - Kidepo - Spending time with the Karamojong tribe - The Sipi Falls region - The accommodations: Eagle’s Nest, Byonna Amagara, Parkview Lodge, Tinka’s Home, Rwenzori Guesthouse, Fort Murchison, Night in the kraal, and Lacam Lodge

What we liked less: - Queen Elizabeth Park - Jinja - The accommodations: Ziwa Rhino Ranch, Karamojaarts Guesthouse

I’ll try to post some photos later. If you have any questions about a future trip, I’d be happy to answer them.
Logements bon marché en Patagonie
by Mikabu · 2016-06-25 · 5 replies
Bonjour, Je prépare un voyage de 5 semaines au Chili et en Patagonie argentine. Les billets sont pris. Comme il s'agit de la trés haute saison , janvier-février, on m'a conseillé de réserver les hôtels. Mais impossible de trouver qc qui entre dans mon budget, mêmes ceux indiqués dans les guides en catégorie " bon marché " ! C'est vrai qu'on cherche une chambre pour 2 et non un lit dans un dortoir, mais à part ça on est ouvert à tout. Donc si vous avez un bon plan pour les villes de El Calafate, El Chalten et Ushuaia en Argentine et Puerto Natales, Punta Arenas et même Puerto Varas au Chili je suis preneuse. D'avance merci Cordialement Michèle

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