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Conseil pour Canopy Tour au Costa Rica English translation pending
by Joslin · 2005-02-14 · 6 replies
Bonjour,

J'ai dénombré 4 canopy tours dans le Monteverde.

1. Sky Trek + sky Walk

2. Selvatura

3. Aventura canopy Tours

4. Original canopy tour

Quelles sont vos expériences avec ce genre d'activitées? Cela vaut il le coût ? Quel est le meilleur rapport qualité/prix?

Merci à l'avance de votre précieuse collaboration!

Joslin
Retour d'El Portillo pour Biloba and Co English translation pending
by Romulus · 2005-01-31 · 50 replies
Bonsoir à tous, Biloba, Majordom, Marion Wylcox et Cie. Voulez-vous toujours un CR ?? J'étais en panne de Modem.

Je suis rentré il y a 5 jours. à votre dispo. Si vous etes déjà partis, pas de CR.
C'est fatiguant English translation pending
by Titania · 2005-01-20 · 26 replies
J'avais mis dans mon profil une photo qui est assez significative pour moi (d'une femme), et écrit dans ma signature qu'il ne s'agit pas de moi, afin de calmer les ardeurs ... et puis je n'arrête pas de recevoir des posts privés de drague.

MERCI D'ARRETER de m'écrire pour me draguer, ça fatigue.
Thaïlande - le retour English translation pending
by Gwennou · 2005-01-08 · 45 replies
- -- (Voir "Plongee a koh Tao" pour raccorder les wagons !) --

3 janvier 2005 : 2 ans ont passe et me voici donc, tout guilleret avec Khryz a mes cotes, devant le guichet de Gulf Air a Roissy Charles de Gaulle. Le monsieur a l'air embete parceqe je n'ai pas de billet de retour. Je lui explique que, restant moins d'un mois en Thailande, je n'ai pas besoin de visa touristique mais ca n'a pas l'air de le satisfaire. Tout a l'air en passe de s'arranger lorsque, subitement, nous remarquons que "4 Juin 2004" comme date d'expiration de mon passeport ca n'est pas un bon chiffre. Khryz rigole (elle n'a pas tout capte) et je m'affole.

Pour faire court, nous sommes donc alles a la consigne a bagages de l'aeroport, puis nous sommes retournes chez moi pour me faire ouvrir un dossier de demande de passeport a la mairie ; munis de ce viatique, de deux photos et d'un timbre fiscal nous avons ensuite file a la sous prefecture du raincy ou le-dit document m'a ete remis en trente minutes chronos -- suivant une procedure d'urgence qui me ravit encore a chaque fois que j'y pense ; 3H a poireauter dans un cabinet medical pour se faire delivrer de faux certificats medicaux au cas ou tout foirerait et ou il faudrait que nous trouvions une bonne excuse a servir a la compagnie d'assurance (apparemment la negligence qui me caracterise n'est pas une bonne excuse) puis dodo. Le lendemain, lever a 06H00 direction l'aeroport : Mise sur liste d'attente, deroutage sur Bahrein au lieu de l'escale a Abu Dhabi et 200 euros d'amende pour pouvoir monter dans l'avion. Oui c'est moi qui est tout paye, faut bien assumer ses conneries.

Bref, 23H plus tard, nous voila a Bangkok ! J'ai beau ne pas particulierment gouter cette ville polluee et surpeuplee, j'etais quand meme bien content d'y etre enfin ! Et me voila a saouler Khryz pendant tout le trajet jusqu'a Khao San Road avec des details qui me semblaient tous sur le coup de premiere importance mais qui bizarrement ne m'ont laisse aucun souvenir 48H plus tard... L'excitation sans doute.

Arrivee a Khao San, on flane un peu dans les Sois adjacents pour denicher une guest house pas chere. Mais je savais deja pertinemment laquelle je voulais : Ma VS Guest House avec son arbre au milieu du salon et ses japonais defonces tout autour. De l'arbre, pas du salon. Honnetement, ce n'etait pas la plus pimpante (sic) et il m'a fallu batailler ferme pour vendre a Khryz la piaule cellule de prison sans insonorisation, les salles de bain collectives sans eau chaude et les seaux en guise de chasse d'eau. Mais pour 2 euros par personne et par nuit ca vaut vraiment le coup, surtout a Bangkok. Et puis c'est tellement typique : chaque meuble laque, chaque autel, chaque paire de tongs laissee a l'entree vous rappellent immanquablement que vous etes en Asie...

A Khao San il y avait ces derniers jours une petite ambiance de World Trade Center avec des grands panneaux sur lesquels on avait accroche les noms et les photos des milliers de touristes morts ou disparus. Dans cette contemplation, les mots vous manquent.

Dans le salon de la guest House on a rencontre Al, un hollandais qui parle 8 ou 9 langues, routard au long cours comme beaucoup. Il nous a fait visiter un petit peu : On est alles jusqu'au debarcadere le plus proche sur le Chao Praya, on y a vu un joli fort du 18eme siecle que Khryz a mitraille (les photos suivront) et aussi un concert de rock Thaie intitule "Help the South" pour les victimes du Tsunami. Grande affluence et ambiance de fete bizarrement. Avons rencontre la-bas 2 indiens francophones et une coreenne. Sympas. Ensuite, nous sommes revenus manger des fallafels - grippe aviaire oblige - avec Al qui s'est revele un petit peu saoulant, du genre 'bougez pas, moi j'connais la vie", un vrai sac a conneries en fait : Il avait visiblement mal digere le petit precis de linguistique comparee de Saussure et a remonte tout le fil des mutations du larynx jusqu'a l'epoque ou les hommes avaient "un regime hyper-proteine parcequ'ils bouffaient tous les oeufs de dinosaures". Ce qui a bien sur cause leur extinction. No comment.

Hier, nous sommes alles jusqu'au Chao Praya et avons emprunte un Bus Boat jusqu'au Wat Pho, un grand ensemble de temples pas tres loin du palais royal. Des buddhas par centaines, dont un particulirement impressionnant : represente en position allongee, il fait approximativement 6M de haut pour 46M de long ! Le tout dore a l'or fin comme il se doit...

Khryz a deja craque pour 4 pantalons, des tongs, un sac, des lunettes et une memory card pour son appareil photo. Faut pas la contrarier, ca a l'air de lui faire plaisir : "T'as vu combien ca coute ca ?? C'est pas cher dis-donc, hein ?". Et honnetement, non, c'est pas cher. Au MBK, le grand magasin de Bangkok ou nous avons trouve sa carte memoire, je me suis fait couper les tifs et raser la barbe ; c'est rigolo de voir une thaie s'eclater sur ta barbe. Le systeme pileux thailandais etant ce qu'il est, c'etait pour elle un plaisir rare a savourer ! 😄 Ce qui est moins plaisant en revanche, c'est quand, au retour du grand magasin, ton conducteur de tuk-tuk te fait un remake de la "fureur de vivre" en conduisant en sens inverse sur 400M pour doubler les bouchons. A la fin, il rigole, pouces leves, l'air de dire : "Meme pas morts !".

Voila. C'est a peu pres tout pour le moment. Je vous donne RdV dans 72H ou on passera de James Dean a Elvis. Mais si, rappelez vous : Youkoulele et guirlandes autour du cou....
Retour du Riu Lupita English translation pending
by Mallo · 2004-12-05 · 28 replies
Nous sommes partis 15 jours au riu lupita au Mexique avec nos enfants 7 et 10 ans. Voici mes premières impression "à chaud".

L'hotel est vraiment super. Les chambres sont propres, pas très grandes, mais cela nous a paru bien, animaux fait en serviette presque tous les jours.

Les repas sont très variés et les serveurs très prévenants. Les animateurs sont vraiment géniaux et ne vous emmerdent pas si vous ne voulez pas faire leurs activités. Tous les soirs il y a une remise de diplome et des cadeaux pour les vainqueurs des activités de la journée. Mini disco le soir pour les enfants et là aussi cadeaux pour tous les petits bouts (nous en avons ramenez une pleine valise !!!). Nous avons été faire un tour dans le riu yucatan et le playacar et là ça n'a rien à voir c'est une fourmilière, aussi nous rentrions manger à lupita pour le calme et l'aspect familiale de l'hotel.

Le seul point noir pour nous a été la plage. Elle est petite et les transats sont alignés les uns à côté des autres jusqu'au moment où il n'y a pas assez de transat pour tous . C'est un labyrinte pour accéder à la mer et encore nous ne sommes pas en pleine saison. Nous n'y avons été que 2 fois (nous sommes habitués à mettre notre serviette par terre et au plage plus déserte).

Nous avons fait avec l'hotel l'excurtion de Chitchen itza car c'était loin et pour comprendre ce que nous voyons. Autrement nous avons visité grâce aux collectivos, pas cher et très typique. Nous avons été à xel ha, magnifique parc, tulum 2 fois pour la mer, puerto adventa, paamul plage sauvage, akumal, à éviter pour les non plongeurs le grand cénoté : beau mais entrée trop chère pour le peu de temps que l'on reste. Mais pour tous cela il faut aimer la marche à pied😛

Pour ceux qui partent au lupita, un petit conseil si vous partez avec des dollars, payer les excursions de l'hotel en dollars plutôt qu'en pesos, ils font leurs propres taux de conversion et on y perd. Pour le reste l'hotel échange les euros en pesos à un taux interessant : 14.10 et ne prennent pas de commission. Ils nous restaient des dollars et nous les avons dépensé à l'aréoport car tous les prix sont indiqués en dollars pas besoin de faire de conversion !

Pour le mot de la fin, je dirai superbe voyage même si nous avons été un peu déçu en comparaison de la Martinique. Mais l'accueil des mexicains est génial et surtout n'oubliez pas de dire que vous êtes français de la France (paris) ils adorent les français.

Voilà, si vous avez des questions, je suis prête à vous répondre sans problème.
Rando raquettes VF / Pyrennées - 18 février 2005 English translation pending
by StethoJones · 2004-11-06 · 134 replies
UNE GRANGE A LUZ SAINT- SAUVEUR... ( 1300 mètres)

UN PAYSAGE MAGNIFIQUE...

DES RAQUETTES...

UN PETIT FEU DE CHEMINEE...

DES VFISTES SYMPAS.

VOUS ETES PARTANT POUR UN WE EN JANVIER, FEVRIER OU MARS 2005?

JIBI LE GO

PS: ce post fait suite au post RANDO VF SUD OUEST🙂 qui a fait un malheur sur le forum!
Pourquoi l'humanitaire à l'étranger? English translation pending
by Tanss · 2004-10-06 · 506 replies
Ce forum, et d'autres, est envahi par des messages de personnes souhaitant aller faire de l'humanitaire dans un pays étranger, bien souvent sans avoir aucune compétence pour cela. Dans le même temps les associations travaillant en France ne trouvent plus de bénévoles; que ce soit les pompiers, la croix rouge, ceux qui s'occupent des plus démunis...

Personnellement je m'occupe d'une association d'aide au développement, et comme toutes ces associations nous sommes submergés de demandes de la part de candidats au départ au Pérou ou en Afrique, alors qu'on ne peut pas trouver quelqu'un pour nous donner un coup de main pour tenir un stand ou s'occuper d'une animation qui nous permet de collecter des fonds pour financer nos actions.

Alors quelle est votre véritable motivation pour partir aider sous les tropiques plutôt qu'à côté de chez vous ?
Une peluche = un sourire English translation pending
by Ouais · 2004-07-27 · 52 replies
Salut a tous,

En t’en que membre actif de l’assos (trésorier de l’assos) « Né pour vivre » j’espère solliciter votre attention :

Une action va être menée en Mauritanie, sur nouadhibou, cette action se divisera sur place en plusieurs petites actions comme de la formation professionnelle, en passant par la réhabilitation d’un ou plusieurs dispensaires ou encore de faire du social auprès de la population.

Dans un premier temps j’aimerais savoir si des personnes auraient en possession des peluches qui traînent dans leurs placards pour permettre aux enfants hospitalisés de « moins souffrir », de permettre aux enfants de pouvoir jouer entre eux avec ses peluches : de faire passer le temps.

De plus cela permettrait a vos peluches de faire une 2eme vie, et quelle vie ! car elles redonneront a des enfants le sourire qu’ils avaient perdu en rentrant a l’hôpital (si on peut appeler ça un hôpital…) car on est tous né pour vivre.

Si vous souhaitez participer, contactez moi en « privé » ou même si vous souhaitez plus d’infos. Merci
Cafards, rats lézards et autres z'amis... vos rencontres English translation pending
by Rivotril · 2004-07-20 · 50 replies
Pour faire suite à l’excellent post d’Alan(http://voyageforum.com/voyage/indonesie_terreur_sumatra_D73106/) nous narrant le terrible siège qu’il a dû subir, je vous propose de collecter ici toutes vos rencontres d’infortune avec la faune locale.

Y êtes-vous sensible ou etes-vous capable de dormi du sommeil du juste dans un wagon grouillant de blattes ? Devenez-vous absolument hystérique à la simple vue d’un lézard ou d’un insecte… Racontez nous vos anecdotes…

Pour ma part je ne m’explique toujours pas comment j’ai pu autant de fois me rendre en Asie avec une telle peur de la Blatte. Par bonheur, les rencontres malheureuse furent plutôt rares, mais épiques !

21 heures / Krabi / Thaïlande

Nous devons passer la nuit dans cette charmante guest house avant de prendre le bateau pour les îles. C’est rustique, mais agréable. Nos bungalows sont blottis au fonds d’une épaisse végétation.

De retour de dîner nous trouvons une adorable chienne rachitique allaitant son petit sur le perron de notre porte. J’ai toujours penser que nous pourrions nous préoccuper des animaux quant tous les enfants vivront dans des conditions décentes… Mais je n’ai jamais réussit à l’appliquer. Ma femme et moi-même cherchons dans notre sac ce qui pourrai remplir ce frêle estomac. L’animal est adorable et son petit nous fend le cœur… Il sont maintenant repus… Et commencent à somnoler… Nous allons faire de même.

Nous rentrons nous coucher le cœur allégé par ce spectacle.

le ventilo est resté allumé la veille et j’ai encore attrapé froid. La fièvre monte doucement… la toux aussi. Je me relève prendre une aspirine. J’allume la lumière à tâtons et porte la main à ma trousse de toilette.

Quelque chose à bougé… Là juste derrière le gel douche.

J’ai à peine eut le temps de le voir. C’est derrière le flacon j’en suis certain ! Je ne bouge plus… Ma femme s’est assoupie… Et je ne peux pas sortir de la salle de bain sans en avoir le cœur net. Je ne bouge toujours pas et scrute très attentivement tout autour de moi. Je sens des fourmillements me parcourir le dos… Je ne dois pas céder à la panique… La présence éventuelle de cet insecte m’interdit d’ouvrir la bouche. Je respire fortement par le nez.

Je prend ma brosse à dent pour manipuler la bouteille de savon liquide… L’instrument est court, mais je n’ai rien d’autre à ma portée. Il bouge ! s’en est un… Il est monstrueux… 4 cm… Peut être 5… Il agite doucement ses antennes et son corps marront noir strillé d'une carapace à l'aspect huileux, semble prêt à se glisser dans n'importe quel trou crasseux... Je suis tétanisé… Je sort doucement en ne quittant pas cette horreur du regard. Si je ferme la porte… J’aurai le sentiment d’être en sécurité. Mais un autre occupe le cadre de la porte de la salle de bain! L'idée que cette rencontre n'est pas fortuite, mais que le lieu est un repert grouillant m'angoisse! Je suis cerné.

Si je ferme la porte je l’écrase… Pour bien des gens c’est une occasion inespérée de se libérer de l’occupant… Pour moi c’est un traumatisme supplémentaire… La simple idée du bruit de cette carcasse explosant pour libérer une pulpe immonde, infestée de milliers d’œuf prêt à éclore… Impossible !

Je suis en sueur et je tousse, la fièvre monte d’un cran… Je n’ai plus le choix. Ma virilité va encore en prendre un coup, mais il faut que je réveille ma femme… Elle seule pourra me sortir de cette antichambre de la psychose qui me guette. A peine 2 mios que nous sommes marriés, et déja minable... Ca promet. Mon cœur… Hommmpff Y’a des cafards Où…. Rrrhh Dans la salle d’eau Bon bah dors, qu’est-ce que tu veux que je fasse ? ? ? Tu veux pas aller fermer la porte de la salle d’eau ? Ohhh tu m’emmerde avec tes bestioles elles vont pas te bouffer…Je retourne apeuré devant la porte de la salle de bain…L’occupant de la porte a disparu… Je souffle et ferme la porte…

Mais les éléments sont contre moi… C’est un mauvais film… La porte ne se ferme pas. Elle se rouvre paresseusement à chaque fois que je la renvoi dans ses gons. Je cherche une solution en la tenant. une ficelle… Mais je n’ai rien pour l’accrocher… Une chaise… Mais la porte s’ouvre sur l’intérieur de la salle de bain, il faudrait la bloquer de l’intérieur… C’est impossible. Voilà 5 min. que je tiens cette porte qui est mon unique rempart contre la crise de panique. Ma femme se lève sans rien dire… L’air furieuse… Je vais peut être passer un mauvais quart d’heure, mais le simple sentiment d’être moins seul me redonne du courage. Elle Prend un bout de ficelle. Rapproche une lourde chaise et accroche la poignée de la porte au dossier de la chaise.. Cela semble tenir…

Je suis fébrile et des frissons me parcours le corps… Je n’en pouvais plus… Je tente de m’endormir la bouche fermée… Je les imaginent rampant sur moi à la recherche de n’importe quelle cavité corporelle pour s’y loger et pondre… Au moins Alien vous offre une chance de mourir avant d’être parasité.

La nuit se passe et l’aube apporte son flot de lumière rassurante… Ces misérables insectes inoffensifs ne sont plus qu’une idée lointaine… Seule ma femme est là pour se souvenir… "Mais t’es vraiment pas bien ! Qu’est-ce qui t’a prit de faire un foin pareil pour un cafard…"…
Vietnam, si je peux vous être utile... English translation pending
by Nnthanh · 2004-03-23 · 34 replies
Bonjour - Je viens d'effectuer un long voyage de 70 jours au VIETNAM (mon 3ème voyage ). Si je peux etre utile pour vous donner des renseignements pour voyager dans ce pays - sur des regions comme SAPA, l'Ile de PHU QUOC et sans oublier la Baie d'Along ! Contactez-moi !
Donne infos sur l'Ile des Canaries English translation pending
by Deesseshiva · 2004-02-16 · 20 replies
bonjour,

si quelqu un souhaite des infos sur des hotels sur l ile de gran Canaria j pourrais peut etre vous aider dans le cadre de mon travail j y ai passé une semaine à visiter des hotels!!
Les Survivants English translation pending
by Philom · 2004-02-06 · 52 replies
😄 Message personnel à tous ceux nés avant le 3éme millénaire. Les autres ne pourront pas comprendre ! 😄

L'enfance des années 50, 60, voire 70.

En regardant en arriére, c'est dur de croire qu'on ait réussi à survivre si longtemps. Lorsque nous étions enfants, nous nous promenions en voiture sans ceinture de sécurité ou d'airbags pour nous protéger. Nos chambres étaient peintes de couleurs vibrantes au plomb et nos maisons étaient isolées à l'amiante. Il n'y avait pas de couvercles de sécurité sur les bouteilles de médicaments et de produits toxiques ni de serrures sécuritaires sur les armoires. Et lorsque nous partions faire un tour de vélo, on le faisait sans casque.

On allait seul en ville chercher le pain, le lait dans un broc en aluminium à peine fermé et on le buvait comme cela. On buvait même de l'eau directement des tuyaux d'arrosage. Quelle horreur !

On se faisait des petites voitures(caisse à savon) avec des vieux patins à roulettes et des planches en bois pleines d'échardes et on se laissait aller dans les descentes, sur le trottoir bordant la nationale, pour s'apercevoir trop tard qu'on avait oublié de mettre des freins. Aprés être rentrés dans les buissons ou les clôtures à quelques reprises, on solutionait le probléme. On quittait seul la maison tot le matin pour aller à pied à l'école et on revenait souvent au moment où les lampadaires des rues s'allumaient. Imaginez donc, pas de téléphones portables, personne ne pouvait nous joindre de la journée.

On mangeait des gâteaux secs, du pain et du beurre et nous n'étions pas obéses........., il faut dire que nous jouions presque toujours à l'extérieur. On buvait souvent à quete ou cinq dans la même bouteille et il n'y a jamais eu de décés à cause de cela.

On jouait à des jeux dangereux et souvent, on se faisait mal. On grimpait dans les arbres, on enjambait les murs des voisins. Parfois, il y avait des chutes, avec des coupures et des os cassés mais personne n'était blamé. C'était l'apprentissage de la vie. Parfois, on se battait entre nous, on avait des bleus mais on apprenait à passer par-dessus. On n'avait pas de Nintendo 64, de Playstation 2 ou de X Box, sans compter les jeux video ou même les 99 canaux de la télévision, les magnetoscopes, les ordinateurs personnels, etc, etc .....

Mais nous avions des amis et si nous voulions les voir, tout ce qu'on avait à faire, c'était de sortir et se rendre chez eux, sonner et entrer pour pouvoir leur parler. Imaginez ça, sans même demander la permission à nos parents !!!

Comment faisait- on tout ça, sans gardien, dans ce monde cruel ? On inventait des jeux, avec des bâtons et des balles de tennis, on mangeait toutes sortes de choses mais contrairement à ce qu'on nous disait, rarement quelqu'un perdait un oeil ou était infecté d'un virus. Certains écoliers n'étaient pas aussi futés que les autres. Parfois, ils manquaient leur année et devaient redoubler. Les classes et les examens n'étaient pas ajustés pour compenser ces différences qu'elle qu'en soit la raison.

Nos actions étaient les nôtres. Nous en supportions personnellement les conséquences. Personne pour nous cacher. L'idée de se faire protéger par nos parents si nous commettions une infraction était impensable. D'ailleurs, nos parents étaient du coté de l'autorité, c'est t'y pas effrayant ?

Mais cette génération a produit les meilleurs preneurs de risque, solutionneurs et inventeurs. Les derniéres 50 années ont été une explosion d'innovations et d'idées nouvelles. On avait la liberté, la responsabilité de nos succés, ainsi que celle de nos défaites.

Le plus important, c'est qu'on a appris à vivre avec tout ça. Et on a eu la chance de grandir avant que les avocats et les gouvernements se mettent à réglementer nos vies.......pour notre bien "
Vacances à Virginia Beach (Etats- Unis) English translation pending
by Sboudro · 2004-02-04 · 12 replies
Nous voudrions aller en Virginie cet été. Nous ne sommes pas équipé pour le camping. Nous voudrions louer un chalet, une roulotte ou autre....

Nous voudrions être a proximité de la mer.

Pouvez-vous me conseiller ?
Petite synthèse sur l'accès à Tortuguero (Costa Rica) English translation pending
by Spot · 2003-12-31 · 3 replies
Petite synthèse sur l'accès à Tortuguero (Costa-rica)...

Lors de notre séjour, nous avons exploré les différentes pistes pour y accéder, en voici un résumé, en espérant que cela vous permette de faire votre choix.

Tortuguero est un Mont St Michel Costa-ricain par l'affluence et l'exiguité. On y accède nécessairement en bateau ou en avion.

Voici les principales formules possibles, hors l'avion : acheter une excursion clef en main, à San José ou ailleurs, incluant ou non l'hébergement sur place. s'y rendre par ses propres moyens par le NW (via Cariari) en combinant bus et bateau publics puis organiser sur place son séjour. s'y rendre par le sud (via Limon et le port de Moin), toujours par ses propres moyens.

Trajets possibles par Cariari, en combinant 2 bus publics puis un bateau. Option la plus rapide depuis SJ, détaillé sur plusieurs sites et dans les guides. Inconvénient : le trajet en bateau fait partie de l'intérêt de Tortuguero, or il est moins long par cette voie, donc on en profite moins... C'est par là que passent le gros des tours vendus à SJ. par Limon (Moin exactement), sur la côte Caraïbes. La navigation de Moin à Tortuguero s'effectue sur un ensemble de canaux, lagunes et rios parallèles au rivage. Depuis le tremblement de terre de 1991 qui a rehaussé les fonds, seuls de petits bateaux empruntent ce chemin. La distance est d'environ 70 km, le décor somptueux. L'aller dure environ 5 heures avec les arrêts pour regarder oiseaux, caïmans ou chauve-souris naines, le retour 3 heures. Superbe si la météo est de la partie. Dans notre cas, 80% de l'intérêt de la visite à Tortuguero a été cette balade. en combinant les deux : en passant par Cariari d'abord puis en quittant Tortuguero pour aller à Moin. L'inverse serait plus intéressant mais est plus délicat à organiser, les "capitaines" de Moin ne voulant prendre que des A/R à Moin.

Les excursions ("tours") clef en main

Il en existe de deux types : pension complète et activités incluses. On vous prend à votre hôtel à SJ ou ailleurs, un mini-bus vous emmène à l'embarcadère, le bateau à votre lodge etc. Vous êtes en pension complète et faites les sorties dans le parc prévues au programme. A notre connaissance, uniquement par Cariari. Prix maximum. Le prix suit le confort hôtelier (avec ou sans jaccuzzi etc). transport simple. En général assuré par des agences plus modestes. Concerne plutôt les A/R depuis Limon et le port de Moin. Une fois sur place, vous vous débrouillez pour trouver à coucher et organisez vos activités à votre guise (sans aucune difficulté et avec bien plus de choix qu'à distance, tout au moins à la basse saison. N'avons pas testé la haute...). Tortuguero est rempli de cabinas, à des prix voisins mais allant de la cabane à lapins sentant la peinture et le moisi à du très bien (on a apprécié les cabinas et le restaurant de Miriam près de l'océan).

Tout le monde ou presque vend des "tours" au Costa-rica, en particulier pour Tortuguero : hôtels, agences etc. Les prix varient selon la période de l'année, la durée du séjour, son confort ... et votre habileté à négocier. On trouve les prix sur Internet, au moins pour les formules "tout compris". Cf sites des lodges et grandes agences. Pas de surprise : c'est cher et il peut y avoir de mauvaises surprises : gros bateaux ou horaires des visites inadéquats par exemple, cf plus bas.

Trajet par Cariari par ses propres moyens (A/R)

Nous ne l'avons pas pratiqué. La plupart des personnes rencontrées sont passées par là. Aucune n'a fait part de difficultés, qu'elles parlent espagnol ou non. C'est l'accès le plus économique à Tortuguero.

Trajet par Moin (A/R) La plus belle balade, 5 heures à l'aller avec les arrêts, 2h30 au retour. Déjà plus cher mais vaut son prix (~ 40 à 60$ / pers).

Deux manières de procéder : en réservant à l'avance un aller/retour (tout le monde en vend : hôtel, agence, laverie etc). Pas nécessairement beaucoup plus cher. en se présentant au port de Moin, vers 9 / 10 heures et en se joignant à d'autres personnes qui attendent pour négocier un passage. Le risque : ne trouver personne avec qui partager les frais. Risque faible, même à la basse saison. Nous n'avons rencontré personne qui soit resté bloqué. D'ailleurs une douzaine de personnes étaient sur le quai quand nous sommes arrivés.

Inconvénient : impossible de rester plus d'une nuit à Tortuguero. En effet, le "captain" fait le trajet, dort sur place et rentre le lendemain avec ses passagers. Si on reste plusieurs jours, on l'immobilise plusieurs nuits à Tortuguero.

il très difficile d'avoir un aller simple si on veut rentrer par Cariari (sauf à payer l'aller/retour et ne pas profiter du retour). L'A/R rapporte plus...

Pour info, j'ai compté plus de 20 bateaux dans le port, de 6 à 40 places.

Arrivée par Cariari, départ vers Moin C'est la grande boucle, durée du séjour illimitée. Les "captain" qui descendent sur Moin sont toujours heureux de charger quelques personnes en plus à Tortuguero et les emmener. Inconvénient : le retour se fait plein gaz, donc pas d'arrêt ailleurs qu'à la buvette. On voit le paysage mais pas les animaux.

Arrivée par Moin, départ vers Cariari La grande boucle, dans l'autre sens, durée du séjour illimitée. Nous n'avons pas réussi à le faire, bien que cela soit possible avec un peu de chance (c'est la loi de l'offre et la demande sur le port de Moin...). Avantage : la remontée "touristique" de 5 heures de Moin à Tortuguero.

A savoir dans tous les cas... demander la taille du bateau (pour le trajet). Plus il est petit, mieux c'est. Il en existe de 6 à 40/50 places ! Pas la peine de dire que sur un bateau-mouche de 40 places couvert vous ne verrez rien (nous étions deux sur un bateau de 6 places). Qui dit groupe ou tour dit risque de voyager sur un gros bateau. Bien demander au préalable. Evidemment s'il pleut, la balade nécessite un bon équipement (à 20 kt, çà mouille !). Dans tous les cas, prévoir un ou 2 sacs poubelle de 100 litres pour mettre à l'abri les bagages (les petits bateaux n'ont qu'un toit contre le soleil). quelle est l'heure des visites du parc. Les animaux sont actifs la nuit, donc plus tôt sont les visites, plus elles sont intéressantes. Inutile de faire des tours à 10 heures comme le font certains lodges. Départ à 5h30 ou 6 heures du matin impérativement. Là encore, la taille de l'embarcation va du canoë à 3 places jusqu'au bateau de 15/20 personnes. le mode de propulsion du bateau (pour la visite du parc). Plus il est silencieux, mieux c'est. On peut visiter en canoé, en bateau électrique .. ou au moteur 4 temps au ralenti (ce qui semble interdit mais pratiqué). On peut aussi louer des canoês. les guides. Tous semblent avoir l'oeil. Les prix et durées sont comparables (~15$ par personne). En revanche, certains sont capables de nettement plus d'explications que d'autres... Visites en Anglais ou Espagnol. On a apprécié le Canadien vivant en face de l'église et son érudition, malheureusement ce n'était pas à la rame... il est heureusement possible de louer un canoé et de se balader à sa guise (prévoir une carte et une boussole quand même avant de s'engager dans le parc). Une bonne formule : faire un tour guidé puis naviguer par ses propres moyens les jours suivants si vous aimez l'observation de la nature (inutile d'aller loin pour être au calme).

Ponte des tortues L'attraction numéro 1. Pourtant on peut en voir ailleurs de manière moins commerciale. Fonction de la saison. On a zappé sans regret (fin de saison). La visite s'achève à la 1ère tortue rencontrée.

Naissance des tortues Facile à voir en saison, avec un peu de chance. Il suffit de trainer le soir sur la plage (l'accès n'est interdit que la nuit). Quand la température est adéquate, les naissances surviennent. C'est rapide, en quelques minutes, tout le nid est parti pour la mer. A faire : marcher le long de la plage en cherchant la trace des premières arrivées à l'eau, remonter jusqu'au nid (demander la tête des traces sur place, c'est caractéristique) et regarder. Eventuellement chasser les chiens. A ne pas faire : creuser le nid, prendre les tortues à pleine main, les mettre à l'eau. Ce n'est pas un film de Disney ! Dixit un garde avec qui nous en avons parlé. C'est pourtant ce que font la plupart des gens (débat animé USA/Europe à ce sujet sur la plage, y'a pas des désaccords que sur l'Irak !).

Mafia ?

Une Française installée à Cahuita nous avait parlé de la mafia de Tortuguero : prix alignés, exploitation en coupe réglée du tourisme etc. Voici notre contribution au sujet.

Arrivée à Tortuguero. Notre "captain" nous présente "par hasard" un guide qui traine "par hasard" sur le quai ou nous accostons (toujours par hasard). Le guide propose de nous emmener voir les tortues le soir (10 ou 15 $ par pers) et faire un tour avec lui le lendemain matin (15$ par pers, tarif standard). On prend note sans s'engager. Il nous emmène voir des cabinas (sa sélection...). Pas de chance, aucune n'est terrible. On continue avec lui sur les talons avant de trouver. Il nous laisse. Puis on part à la pêche aux guides pour voir ce qu'ils proposent et s'il n'y en aurait pas qui articulent plus, les marmonements du premier étant assez indistincts. Tour sur la plage, naissance de tortues, dîner, retour à la cabina. On frappe à la porte. Un jeune, nous dit être envoyé par le guide et nous demande si on veut faire les visites avec lui. Réponse : "non merci". Encore quelques minutes, on refrappe à la porte. Le guide éconduit cette fois-ci. Il vient nous informer que notre "captain" a décidé de partir à 10 heures le lendemain et non 13 heures comme convenu. Nous devons donc être au bateau à 10 heures sinon on rentre à la nage. Cela nous laisse juste le temps de visiter avec lui (bin, tiens). Discussion conjugale animée, risque-t-on réellement de rester en plan ou non. Retour à notre maitre-chanteur : "où est le captain ?" "quelque part...". "Raison du départ avancé ?" ... Impossible d'en savoir plus.

Nous lui disons que le seul accord qui tienne est celui conclu en arrivant et visitons le lendemain à notre rythme avant de retrouver notre captain sur son bateau à l'heure dite.

The end

Une dernière disgression : le renvoi continuel d'ascenseur est vrai partout au CR où l'on aime beaucoup le tourisme "dirigé" (vers les tours, guides, les taxi, les copains etc). Même si cela se fait dans la bonne humeur, il arrive que cela devienne un peu pesant...

Bonne visite !
Epidemie en Asie? English translation pending
by Brindille · 2003-03-29 · 6 replies
C'est un appel que je fais aux voyageurs actuellement sur les terres d'Asie du Sud-est !

Qu'en est-il de ce fameux virus?

Je n'ai encore rien lu sur ce sujet dans ces forums....

50 morts dans le monde (dernier pointage) et un brassage des médias incommensurable sur cette affaire: Je suis au Québec actuellement.

Quand on pense au Sida, qui fait prêt de 3.5millions de victimes par an, et qui est pratiquement oublié par la conscience internationale: Mais, il est vrai, que ça ne touche pas encore suffisamment les Etats-Unis ou l'Europe....

Alors, deux poids, deux mesures ?

Mon message n'est pas anodin, je comptais me laisser aller par les vents d'Asie du Sud-est pendant quelques semaines cet été: Vous devez vous dire 'Quel égoïste, il ne pense qu'a lui'.... Mais avec ce qui se passe de la Tchétchénie à la Colombie, en passant par la Cisjordanie, la Cote d'Ivoire, l'Algérie, la Bosnie, la Tunisie ou encore la version US army de Star Academy en Irak (des explosion, des massacres, des méchants, du soleil à la télé...plus besoin d'aller au ciné), ça fait bien longtemps que je n'arrive plus me révolter...

Un jour ou l'autre, on (le On Universel) aura ce qu'on mérite!

Dernière chose, des vaccins pour Laos, Thaïlande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Malaisie et Singapour ? Lesquels ?

Bye

'La violence, est un manque de vocabulaire'
Which island to choose in Thailand for a few days with my sister?
by Bonjourciao · 2026-07-19 · 6 replies
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.

I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.

My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.

I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...

The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.

For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!

Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.

Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):

· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Off on an adventure in Sri Lanka
by Bibouns51 · 2026-03-23 · 101 replies
Day 1 – December 6

Our decision is our decision. And it’s firm and final. Next winter, our plane will spread its great wings toward the island of Ceylon! "Wait a minute... Ceylon... Ceylon... that name rings a bell, but I can’t quite place it on the globe Grandma gave me for Christmas! Ceylon... Oh right, I’ve got it: Ceylon is the name of my tea!" Exactly. But the name on your pretty tea box is also the one used until 1972 for this island nation, a speck on the Indian Ocean at the southern tip of the Indian subcontinent: Sri Lanka!

For this new adventure, I’m exceptionally leaving my Flo behind, cowardly replaced by a double dose of testosterone. To write the book of this journey with me, I’m bringing along my brother, who’s used to this kind of thing, and... a guest star: My model of resilience. My dad! All aboard! Or rather, all aboard our tuk-tuk! Yes, you read that right: A real tuk-tuk, a little colorful rolling box that putters along at two miles an hour. The idea? Well, Sri Lanka and its winding roads overlooking the vastness of lush nature are tailor-made for this kind of vehicle. And since it’s one of only two countries in the world that allow foreigners to rent and drive these mini speedsters, we’ll be crisscrossing the island in our two-square-meter rolling box. Plus, adopting this mode of transport is a surefire way to connect directly with the locals, who’ll surely be curious to see a foreigner driving their iconic vehicle. Not to mention the... let’s say... spicy anecdotes it might generate. I mean, heading into a subtropical zone with my jet-black dad and his unpredictable digestive flora while deliberately choosing the tuk-tuk as our *only* means of transport? That’s the winning combo for an unforgettable adventure! "More seriously, Dad, Sullivan, I’m already loving the idea of living this adventure together, the three of us—brothers and father..."

So, does the intro to this new adventure get your salivary glands going? Yes? Too bad. Because unfortunately, the program handed out by the lady at the entrance has been slightly... let’s say *crumpled*. Some might even say "scrunched up and nearly tossed in the trash." First, six days ago, as the countdown echoed in us like a call to adventure, Cyclone Ditwah grabbed Sri Lanka, played with it like a rag doll, and left it battered on the ground. The toll is devastating: over a thousand dead, thousands of homes wiped out by relentless rains, roads and railways swallowed by massive mudslides. A country wounded once again, after the civil war, the 2004 tsunami, and the post-Covid economic crisis.

But as if this weather disaster wasn’t enough to shake our unbreakable adventurer spirit, fate decided to mess with us further by cutting our trio down to two. The victim? My brother, violently turned away because of a simple date on his passport that didn’t match the border officials’ expectations. Return to sender!

So now it’s just the two of us allowed to board the Qatar Airways Airbus A380 for this trip. If he were here, Denis Brognart would say, "And in the end, only one remains!" Except I know you’ll be with us, following our adventures! Right?
Love at First Sight in Kenya
by Blancond · 2026-03-10 · 84 replies
Hello,

After several years, I’ve finally decided to repost a travel journal on the forum. We returned a few weeks ago from an incredible trip to Kenya, and it’s reignited my desire to share our emotions in the face of these animals.

Kenya wasn’t originally a priority for us in terms of safari—we had the impression it was too touristy. So, we started with other destinations: Namibia, Tanzania, Botswana, and South Africa. But as I did more research, especially on the forum (thanks in part to Sylvie’s many trips), I eventually convinced myself that Kenya could be magnificent, as long as we chose our itinerary carefully and avoided peak seasons.

We ended up going in January, from the 17th to the 31st. We worked with a travel agency (TP) that crafted a custom itinerary for us: Samburu-Ol Pejeta-Naivasha-Maji Moto-Maasai Mara-Diani. They partnered with a local French-speaking agency, and everything was perfectly organized. Our trip exceeded all our expectations, and none of it would’ve been as amazing without our guide, Alfred. He accompanied us for 10 days and was a fantastic travel companion—professional, respectful of the animals, and always in good spirits. We formed a great bond with him in such a short time.

- **January 17th** After meeting up with Juliette and Charlotte in Rennes the night before, we left at 4 AM for Roissy Charles de Gaulle Airport. The thick fog made the drive pretty rough, but we arrived safely around 7:45 AM. A Blue Valet driver was waiting to take our car. Check-in went smoothly, and we waited patiently for our 10:40 AM flight. Unfortunately, despite boarding on time, a passenger was missing, and we had to find a replacement last minute. Then, another passenger who had checked in and dropped off their luggage wasn’t on the plane, so they had to unload their bags. After a long period of uncertainty and spotty communication from the crew, we finally took off over an hour late.

We arrived in Nairobi in the late afternoon, 45 minutes behind schedule. The administrative formalities were endless—it took nearly 1.5 hours from landing to leaving the airport with our luggage. When we stepped out, Alfred, our guide, was waiting with a big smile and drove us to the Eka Hotel, not far from the airport. Exhausted from the long journey, we fell asleep quickly.

- **January 18th** Alfred met us at 7 AM for a long drive to Samburu Reserve. We had a peaceful night, unlike the girls, who barely slept because their neighbors were talking loudly all night. Things even escalated when Charlotte started shouting insults to get them to quiet down, but it didn’t work.

It was Sunday, so traffic around Nairobi and along the route was light. Aside from a quick "technical stop," we drove straight through and arrived in Samburu after just under 6 hours. Because of the lower altitude (around 1,000m on average), it was hot—over 30°C in mid-January.

As soon as we entered the reserve, we spotted some impalas and quickly came across one of the region’s endemic species: the reticulated giraffe, which is absolutely stunning.



While heading to our camp for lunch, Alfred crossed paths with another vehicle and learned that a leopard was nearby. We started searching, and a few minutes later, Anny spotted a shape in a tree—it was our leopard!





There were actually two of them—a mother and her adolescent. The young one was perched high in the tree, in the shade. We got to observe them for a good half-hour in excellent conditions, with just one other vehicle nearby.





Alfred also noticed that the mother had hidden prey (a gerenuk gazelle) in the vegetation, away from prying eyes.

It was time to head to our camp, the Ashnil Samburu Camp, located in the Buffalo Springs area, by the river, in an idyllic setting surrounded by the region’s typical vegetation.





The welcome was fantastic—we immediately felt at home, and that feeling lasted throughout our 3-day stay in the reserve. It was 2 PM, but no one rushed us to the table. Our waitress, Sheila, who took care of us the whole time, was as lovely as the rest of the team. Barely seated, we were invited to watch an elephant passing right by the camp, in front of the restaurant. This trip was off to a great start!

After lunch, we relaxed by the pool. Monkeys, especially vervets, were everywhere, and a camp employee was assigned to keep an eye on them and shoo them away if needed (especially the baboons).

A little before 4 PM, we met up with Alfred for our first game drive. Just outside the camp, a few elephants were in the valley near the river.





We’d see them in the same area almost every day. We also spotted some gazelles.

From the Awakening to Travel to Morocco in the 90s
by Jojoone1 · 2026-02-20 · 77 replies
As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I inherited my love of travel from my parents and some of my grandparents. A strong passion, but one that was unfortunately limited by our family’s modest resources. Back then, living in northern Alsace, a simple trip to the southern part of the region—with the Wine Route as our destination—felt like an extraordinary journey to a land of plenty for the little boy I was in the late 60s and early 70s. Everything seemed so huge when you were still just a kid. Back then, I was overwhelmed by countless sensations—I was already highly sensitive, with a keen mind and a nose and taste buds that were developing like a pro’s. Which, as I’d later realize, wasn’t always an advantage.



Those magical days always began with a gentle late-spring or midsummer morning. The interior of the white Peugeot 404, license plate 210 LZ 67, had already soaked up the sun before the engine purred to life, and the cabin gave off a scent I could still recognize today—a fragrance I found so pleasant. Back then, I had no idea it was just the smell of warm plastic from the car’s interior. Yes, the scents of the 404 on sunny days became my madeleine de Proust... What’s more, the whole family was unusually cheerful because those moments of relaxation and leisure were rare. Everyone worked, and no one had an easy job or was well paid. Without the *Trente Glorieuses*, these experiences might never have happened.



Once we crossed the canton’s borders, I felt like I was light-years away from my everyday surroundings, and every kilometer plunged me deeper into *terra incognita*. It was thrilling. Far from my so-called "medium-sized" town, wheat fields, cornfields, and cabbage patches stretched out, punctuated by tall poles connected by long wires and topped with vegetation—like giant clotheslines without laundry, where magical beanstalks might grow to touch the sky. Back then, I was still far from tasting their product, which was simply beer. At the time, there was still a significant local hop production. Fun fact: it wasn’t until 2002 that Anglo-Saxon scientists proved hops and cannabis belong to the same biological family.

After the fields, the landscape took another step up as it rolled past the little boy’s eyes, often glued to the windows. First came modest hills, then a succession of rolling slopes that soon formed an unbroken chain. Their 700 meters in altitude felt like Himalayan peaks to me—impressive, inert giants, a whole new world. Gazing at them, an intense emotion welled up somewhere between my stomach and lungs, nearly taking my breath away. What mysteries, what treasures did these heights hold? And then there were the cherries on top—the crowning touch that made the scene even more magical: proud, majestic castles perched on the summits like impassive sentinels. Monuments from the past, yet firmly rooted in the present on their rocky spurs. The little boy’s eyes sparkled—he’d been given a castle for Christmas, complete with battlements, towers, a drawbridge, and fully armed knights. He’d watched and lived *Ivanhoe* on the only French TV channel that existed back then.

Only once did my paternal grandfather join us on one of these trips. A tall, intelligent man with a face that could shift from stern to mischievous, clearly full of humor and charisma. Sadly, his relationship with alcohol had taken a toll on his life and, by extension, those of his loved ones. He had a strong personality—if his boss crossed the line, he wouldn’t hesitate to punch him, which meant he went through a lot of different jobs. Back then, you could quit one job and easily find another. It was quite something to see him in his final stages, hallucinating pink elephants and even drinking perfume when he had nothing else left. The last time I saw him, he’d slipped away from the doctors and nurses while hospitalized in pretty bad shape—at least, I assume his liver was the issue. We were sitting down for a family lunch when the door burst open, and there he stood in his pajamas, eyes twinkling with mischief, clearly pleased with the dramatic entrance. That theatrical moment didn’t spare us from burying him a few months later at the age of 71. One day, my mother told me the family doctor had quietly remarked that it was a shame—with his robust constitution, he could’ve lived to be a hundred. Yes, the family doctor—this was the man who’d come treat you any day, at almost any hour, just for a phone call. It really existed, it’s not a myth!

That day, his wife—my paternal grandmother—was also along for the ride. Everyone agreed that Jeannette was a good woman. She worked as a waitress at *Le Tigre*, the biggest brasserie in town, right in the center. Most customers preferred to be served by her, including local dignitaries and even the mayor. As a kid, I didn’t find her very fun, open, or warm—she seemed a bit stern. Back then, women in their fifties already had the face and build of grandmothers. Same went for men, don’t get me wrong. I had no idea about the struggles she faced because of her husband. I didn’t know that 30 years earlier, she’d had to flee Alsace while pregnant, under threat from Nazi fighter-bombers. I didn’t know she’d had several miscarriages, and that my father—her only surviving child, born prematurely in March 1940 at the other end of France—weighed less than a kilo at birth and was so tiny he could fit in a shoebox. Hard to imagine he’d grow into a strapping man nearly 1.80 meters tall, tipping the scales at 100 kilos. When you come back from summer camp in early August and ask why she didn’t pick you up with your parents, and they gently tell you she’s "in heaven," you don’t realize she passed away at 54 after suffering greatly from stomach cancer that had spread.

Back to that family outing, that enchanted parenthesis. I even remembered where we’d had lunch when I passed through Dambach-la-Ville decades later. One of those charming, flower-filled towns Alsace produces in abundance—and preserves so well. This one sits high on a hill, and I was a bit stunned on the parking lot because the view stretched far, revealing the Alsace plain below—its fields, villages, hills, and forests. The world seemed so vast and enticing that day, even though I was only glimpsing a tiny fraction of it.



The region was already very touristy, but I wouldn’t notice the downsides until much later. That Sunday noon, I discovered a large restaurant filled with diners. I can still see the enormous piece of meat they served me, decorated with a little wooden skewer topped with a flag. I kept that one for a long time. Those were the golden days of rich, flowing, thick sauces—so flavorful—and the era of the world’s best fries, made on the spot with the best potatoes. To top it off, I was *exceptionally* allowed a small bottle of apple juice, Orangina, or—even better if possible—Sinalco. Yes, Sinalco—like Orangina, but better. A brand that must’ve disappeared in the 70s, but why, and what a shame! Since then, Orangina’s little bubbles have taken the brand to the other side of the planet—it’s now Japanese.

Year after year, I’d eagerly await that ecstatic moment when the most beautiful castle in Alsace, the Haut-Koenigsbourg, appeared in my field of vision. The perfect model, the archetype that blended into the landscape at the height of a child’s dreams. The trip home always felt like a reality check—less jarring than an alarm clock, but more diffuse and melancholic. From then on, there was only one wish: *When do we leave again?*
Off on an adventure to Java (and a bit of Bali)
by Bibouns51 · 2025-09-02 · 158 replies
Hey there, community! Back this weekend, below is my travel journal from my adventure in Indonesia. Enjoy the read!!!

Day 1 - August 10, 2025 New life downloading for three weeks! And for that, Flo and I launched a public tender... A public tender? What’s that got to do with a travel journal???... Well, when you think about it, few destinations tick all the boxes for an August adventure: Meaning, finding a place that’s exotic in the middle of August, not too expensive, not too packed with tourists, warm but not *too* warm, with postcard-perfect landscapes, dreamy beaches, tasty cuisine with a hint of exoticism, friendly and welcoming locals, where you’re free to sleep under the stars among the mosquitos, take transport surrounded by chickens, and even eat from a pig trough if you feel like it—well, turns out it’s not that easy to find! I’d even say, given how thick the list of requirements is, there’s a big risk the tender could be declared unsuccessful for failing to meet just one criterion. Let’s just say the candidates better submit a rock-solid proposal!

After reviewing all the responses and presentations from the candidates, the obvious choice for us is... Indonesia! Except that trying to explore a country as vast as Indonesia and its 17,504 islands in less than five years is a bit like reading the summary of a Proust novel without taking the time to savor each of its 950 pages! Don’t worry, I won’t name them all here. Besides, do they even all have names? No! Only 7,870 have been named—their parents clearly ran out of ideas for the rest. Anyway, our society, which worships the "work more to earn more" mantra, unfortunately limits our adventure time. So we’ll only get to see a small part of Indonesia, and we’ll have to make a tough choice to head for the best of the best in this archipelago of over seventeen thousand islands. Each one has its own selling points: Sumatra, Sulawesi, Java, the Celebes, Bali, Borneo, Papua, Timor, the Moluccas... So many names that smell of adventure... Another tender, another list of requirements, another review of proposals... Drumroll... Splash splash... And the lucky winner is... Ta-da... Java, Bali’s big sister, where I’ve already been eight years ago... Java the programming language. The Java of Broadway. We’re gonna *do* the Java. Java the coffee. And yes, Java is also an island!

This island, four times smaller than France, is home to 136 million people, making it the most populated island in the world! Fun fact: Indonesia, with its 260 million inhabitants, is just shy of the podium for the world’s most populated countries, after the winning trio of India, China, and the United States. And it’s on this island of Java that you’ll find Jakarta, the (soon-to-be-former) capital and main airport of the country, where we’ll soon land after our nineteen-hour flight! Yep, nineteen hours! I mean, Indonesia in general—and Java in particular—is a *tad* farther than going on vacation to Grandma Yoyo’s! Not sure where it is? Easy. Grab a map. Plant your finger on the big island at the bottom right—aka Australia for those who struggle with geography—move it up two centimeters, and bam, welcome to Indonesia!



Nice transition, right? Because "Welcome to Indonesia" is exactly what the friendly flight attendant just said to me as we got off the plane! That’s it, our chakras are open, we’ve arrived at our (air)port. Time for rest, pool, cocktails, and a beach with our toes spread out... Wait, if you bought that, you clearly don’t know us yet! Since we still have energy to burn and need to adjust to the flight and time difference, we tackle the long administrative formalities to enter Indonesia, just to earn the right to hop in a 45-minute Grab taxi to the train station. The train station? What train station?... What do you usually do at a train station? Take a train, of course! Off we go for a three-hour train ride to Bandung, where we’ll officially start our adventure tomorrow after our first Indonesian night...

Unfortunately, we were a bit slow off the mark, which meant we missed the 6:25 PM train by two minutes. Oh well, we’ll have to wait until 11 PM. We take the opportunity to stretch our legs in Jakarta, soak up the atmosphere, and enjoy the delicious smells wafting from the *warungs*—those little typical street restaurants. A quick stop at the National Monument, a detour to a night market to devour our first *kwetiaw goreng* and *teh manis* for 60,000 rupiahs (that’s 3 € for two), and just like that, our penalty is lifted, and we’re allowed to hit the road again. Off to Bandung, where we arrive at 2 AM for... a *very* short night...







Australia 2025: Discovering the 5th Continent
by Montagnard74 · 2025-05-24 · 97 replies
Hi everyone. Because that’s also what sparks the desire in every traveler (well, at least for me) to set foot on Australian soil: discovering a new continent.

Right now, I’ve got some time on my hands—those who follow me know that. A nasty muscle tear (which really doesn’t want to heal) is keeping me grounded for another week, so I’ve decided to open a new travel journal, recounting my recent trip from December 14, 2024, to January 12, 2025, in Australia.

The origins of this trip started last May in Crete, an island I chose for a 10-day break. It’s really lovely, by the way, but that’s not the point… It’s around this time every year that we decide on our next winter destination, and Argentina was at the top of the list—Sydney wasn’t even on the radar… I’d been looking at flights to Buenos Aires for a while, and the prices were shocking… But by the pool one lazy afternoon, scrolling on my iPhone, a promo from Geneva to Sydney caught my eye. The deal ticked two boxes on my traveler’s bucket list: a flight to Australia and a flight with Singapore Airlines, often ranked as the world’s best airline. A quick chat with the missus (well, of course!) and the decision was made: off to the land of kangaroos! Now, once you add luggage and Economy Plus, it still comes to 1600 € per person, but that’s a reasonable price. Either way, we already know what we’re in for—Australia is a budget commitment!



Thanks to 123rf for the image loan 😛
Aloha State: Hawaii February 2025
by Holigirl · 2025-05-08 · 119 replies
Alright, I'm diving into this Hawaiian travel journal! I hope lots of you will follow along because the destination is absolutely charming. 🙂 Just a heads-up—I might take a while to finish it.

The trip took place from February 20th to March 3rd, 2025 (11 days total, with 9 days on-site). It was a trip with my friend Christelle, with whom I’ve already traveled to Iceland and Morocco in recent years. We’re totally on the same wavelength, with the same expectations and desires, which makes things a lot easier (and, as a bonus, it helps cut down the final bill). Being the generous soul I am, I asked Christelle which country she wanted to visit. Her answer: Asia, since I’ve never been, or Namibia... Hawaii is basically the same thing, right?!! All thanks to the search comparator—I stumbled upon round-trip tickets from Paris to Honolulu for 580 € per person during school holidays, with a layover in Canada (I don’t get to choose my vacation dates). We jumped on it on August 28th (didn’t take much convincing). For info, I always check flight tickets during the last week of August or the first half of September because there are always amazing deals.

Nine days on-site is short, so we had to make some tough choices for the islands we’d visit (I’m only listing the main ones): - Oahu: the most urbanized but also home to Honolulu, Pearl Harbor, and some stunning beaches.

Kauai: the Garden Isle. It’s the island from *Jurassic Park*, with lush vegetation—so it’s pretty rainy. Big Island: volcanoes, volcanoes, and more, but also things like night snorkeling with manta rays. Maui: very touristy, with a magnificent volcano, the Road to Hana, and the ultimate spot for whale watching (and we were there right in the middle of whale season).

We limited ourselves to two islands to avoid rushing, and in the end, we picked Kauai (non-negotiable) and Oahu (which saved us an extra domestic flight and, since we were there in winter, let us experience the BIG WAVES on the North Shore). We would’ve loved to visit Big Island, but we’d already seen volcanoes in Iceland, and the island is huge—we just didn’t have enough time. Maui was recently hit by a major wildfire and is also the most expensive island (along with Kauai). We were really hoping to see humpback whales (my favorite animal) on both Oahu and Kauai. Hawaii is far, and it’s worth the effort. The journey went smoothly. I took a 40-minute bus ride and a 1h32 RER trip just to get to Roissy, then a 9h15 flight to Calgary, with a two-hour layover before a 6h45 flight to Honolulu. 11 hours of time difference, arriving at 10 PM local time. And you know what? (spoiler alert) I’d do it a thousand times if I got the chance.

Alright, let’s go—here we go!



Reflections: Theme for the May 2025 Contest
by Rouquine38 · 2025-05-02 · 79 replies
Here’s the theme for the lovely month of May—no worries, it won’t be lilies of the valley! 😄

This month’s theme is: “Reflection(s)” This leaves a pretty wide scope: reflections in water, of course, but also in windows, on buildings... I’ll leave it to your imagination, but the reflection should be clearly visible.

If this theme has been used before, it doesn’t matter. It’s getting tricky to find new themes that can attract as many participants as possible.

I’m currently in northern Finland and don’t have access to my hard drives, so I’ll add a few photos when I return to France. Here’s just one I took with my smartphone yesterday late afternoon:



Practical details:

Participation: Each VF member can submit up to 3 photos, until Monday, May 26 at 11:59 PM Paris time. Each photo must be posted in a separate message, with its number (1, 2, or 3). Don’t forget to add a little explanation (comment, location, etc.).

Voting: Each VF member can vote for the 3 photos they consider the best, based on their own criteria and the theme.

Voting will take place from Tuesday, May 27 to Saturday, May 31 at 11:59 PM Paris time.

The selected photos will be ranked in order of preference: - 1st photo: 3 points - 2nd: 2 points - 3rd: 1 point

The winner is the author of the photo with the most points.

Results will be published on June 1. In case of a tie, the number of first-place votes will decide. The winner will have the honor of organizing the June 2025 contest.

Photos that have already been nominated (1st, 2nd, or 3rd) in another contest are not eligible for this one.

This thread is exclusively for photos submitted to the contest. Any discussions or comments should be posted in the following thread: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10707526;a=10707526
3 weeks in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, preliminary travel questions
by Attila · 2025-04-04 · 228 replies
Hi there, 🙂

I’m thinking of taking a trip to these two countries in 2026 (late spring to early summer).

I’d arrive in Almaty and leave from Bishkek, and I’d be driving myself.

I plan to spend 1 week in Kazakhstan and 2 in Kyrgyzstan. The itinerary isn’t set yet.

My preliminary questions are about formalities, hassle levels, and the car.

From what I understand, no visa is needed, the passport must be valid for 6 months after entry, and there’s no longer a requirement to register with the authorities at each stop. In short, once you’re in, no administrative headaches.

Except for permits needed to drive in certain regions?

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About crossing between the two countries:

- On foot - In a rental car

Quick? Easy?

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Are both countries safe? (Meaning you don’t have to stay on guard all the time.) Are the cops corrupt? (A little, a lot, passionately, not at all?)

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Is it better to rent a car for both countries or rent a vehicle in each country?

A 4x4 or something else?

Is accommodation plentiful enough that I can skip a rooftop tent, or is it better to rent a 4x4 with one?

I’ll definitely have more questions later...😉

Thanks for your answers !
Discovering South India: Tamil Nadu and Kerala
by Kate · 2025-02-07 · 142 replies
Hello everyone!

We're off! After exploring the north, the four friends have now discovered the south. We’re excited to share this new travel journal, dedicated to our little group and our strong friendship, written by Richard and illustrated with Kate’s photos. I’ll chime in from time to time with practical tips.

First of all, a big thank you to everyone on VoyageForum who helped us plan this trip. It would’ve been quite different if we’d just relied on guidebooks.

The itinerary lasted just over 3 weeks: Mahabalipuram, Pondicherry, Thanjavur, the Chettinad region, Madurai, Munnar, Munroe Island, Cochin, and Chennai. We traveled by train, taxi, and private car with a driver, took a domestic flight, and stayed in guesthouses, Airbnb apartments, and hotels. For each of us, including flights, the total budget barely reached 2000 €, and we didn’t hold back—knowing we avoid resorts and love street food and small Indian restaurants.

Mexico Trip Itinerary: Mexico City, Puebla, Oaxaca, Pacific Coast
by Marie5210 · 2025-01-20 · 35 replies
Hi there,

We’re planning a 15-day family trip in February 2026 (with 3 teens). We’ll be visiting friends who live in Puebla. Initially, I was thinking of the Yucatán, but after reading up on it, I don’t think it’s the right fit for us (too crowded, too touristy). So, we’re leaning toward something like this: - Mexico City: 2 days (Teotihuacán + city) - Puebla: 3 days - Tehuacán: 2 days (to break up the trip—is this a good choice? Is there enough to do for 2 days?) - Oaxaca: 3 days (Hierve el Agua, Monte Albán, city/tours) - Pacific Coast: 4 days (snorkeling, excursions)

Does this seem balanced? We’d like to end on the coast for some relaxation, ocean time, and fun for the kids. I’ve seen lots of excursions offered along the coast but can’t decide where to stay. Puerto Escondido? Huatulco? The beaches seem better for snorkeling in Huatulco, but I’ve read mixed things, and it’s farther away. What do you think?

For transportation, is this doable by bus? I’m struggling to find a decent bus between Tehuacán and Oaxaca (overnight schedules), and I’m not sure how to get around the coast. Also, how do we handle luggage between cities? We usually rent a car.

Finally, I’d love feedback on the Pacific Coast excursions—I get the feeling some are worth it and others aren’t. Is bioluminescence really magical? Are dolphin-watching tours ethical and not too "factory-like"? (We skipped them in Quebec and just watched whales from shore.) Can you see sea turtles up close?

Thanks for your help!
3 months in Southeast Asia with family
by Renaud38 · 2025-01-05 · 19 replies
Hey everyone, so happy the site is back!

After traveling solo across Iran and the Stan countries from one end to the other,

this time I’m heading to Southeast Asia with my wife and our 3-year-old.

I went to the Philippines almost 10 years ago and actually met some forum members there. It was love at first sight.

I’ve booked tickets from January 10 to March 31 for Bangkok (amazing price from Milan). I was thinking of spending: 3 weeks in Thailand 3 weeks in Vietnam 1 month in the Philippines.

Don’t worry, I won’t spam the forum with a thousand messages asking how to get from point A to point B :)))

I’m reaching out to the experts or regulars here for suggestions and ideas!

For Thailand, Obviously, some beautiful beaches wouldn’t hurt for a bit of relaxation. I was thinking of Koh Phayam or Koh Kood (or Koh Chang). If anyone knows a nice spot, even if it’s not on an island, I’m all ears. It’s tricky to ask this for Thailand, but I’m looking for a bit of tranquility (so I’ll probably avoid Phuket, Koh Samui, etc.). (Though I know sometimes you just need to get off the beaten path to find some peace, but I’m not sure if that’s the case in Thailand.)

Vietnam—I have no idea!! A friend mentioned Danang, which could be a good base to explore the countryside/inland areas.

And the Philippines—I had a huge crush on the country (Bantayan, Dumaguete, Sipalay, Siquijor) and really want to go back, maybe to new places/islands.

I have one constraint: We’ll stay in the same place each time. With a kid, it’s tough to move every 2 days (unlike when I’m solo), and I hope this will let us connect with locals by staying put for 3 weeks at a time. (Plus, my budget is pretty tight, so the idea is to negotiate a good price for 3 weeks in the same accommodation.) (My rough budget is 1000 € per month for the three of us: 450 € for lodging, 450 € for food, and 100 € for a scooter. This doesn’t include boat, bus, etc. transfers.)

If you have any ideas, tips, or experiences to share, I’m all ears! I’m totally open to shortening or extending our stays in each country, even if it means skipping one of the three.
Bangkok - Chiang Mai - Koh Samui in summer
by Waterlily78 · 2024-12-08 · 66 replies
Hi everyone, I’ve spent two solid months reading the Lonely Planet and pretty much every post about Thailand here, plus French and English blogs. Now I’d love to get your expert opinions on our itinerary. We’re heading off in August 2025 with our 7-year-old daughter. We only have a maximum of three weeks off, and I’m keeping an eye on flight prices before booking (1400 € per person really stings 😕). So here’s what I’ve planned—let me know if you spot any major issues or if I’ve been way too "optimistic."

D1 - Arrival in Bangkok / rest, quick visit, overnight stay D2 - More temple visits, etc. D3 - Morning flight to Chiang Mai D4 - More Chiang Mai sightseeing D5 - Day trip to Chiang Rai (guided tour to book: blue and white temple), return to Chiang Mai late in the evening D6 - More Chiang Mai visits / Elephant Nature Park in the afternoon D7 - Morning flight to Koh Samui, sightseeing D8 to D10 - More Koh Samui visits D11 to D13 - Ferry to Koh Phangan D14 to D15 - Ferry to Koh Tao D16 - Return to Koh Samui, then flight to Bangkok D17 - Day trip to Ayutthaya, return to Bangkok in the evening D18 - Flight back to France :(

I know a lot of you recommend heading straight to Chiang Mai to recover from the international flight, but my partner and I NEVER sleep on planes (personally, I’ve been flying to Taiwan since I was little and have never slept more than an hour on a 14-hour flight...), so it’s essential for us to rest upon arrival . That’s also why I opted for domestic flights instead of the sleeper train—I know we’d lose over 10 hours and wouldn’t be able to rest properly in those conditions. And I’m sure you’ll also say BKK > North > South is too much for three weeks, but I really want to see as much as possible. Given how much the flights will cost, I’m not sure when we’ll be able to come back 🏴‍☠️.

So, questions: 1. Since we’ll only be in Bangkok for a maximum of two nights and need to easily reach the airport with luggage (and a child), which neighborhood should we prioritize? We’d love to experience the evening vibe of Asian night markets, ideally within walking distance of the hotel or just a few metro stops away. I’ve looked at Chinatown, but the BTS seems far... Should we go for somewhere near BTS Saphan Taksin or BTS Krungthonburi? But is the area lively in the evening with food courts, etc.? We’d also like to treat ourselves to a hotel with a pool.

2. Have we planned too many days in the south? Should I skip Koh Tao and just do Koh Samui + Koh Phangan? My partner and daughter aren’t strong swimmers, so we’re looking for beautiful beaches without too much current. Crowded beaches don’t bother us—we just want stunning turquoise waters without killer waves . Going all the way to Koh Tao and then back to Koh Samui to catch the flight to Bangkok seems too stressful. Is it still possible these days (I haven’t seen any recent posts on this) to head to Koh Samui in August and decide on the spot how many nights to spend in Koh Phangan or Koh Tao based on how we feel, booking hotels as we go? Or is that too risky?

If you have any better suggestions for fitting all this in while reducing internal flights, I’m all ears for your great tips
Western USA Oct 2024 - Arches and Other Delights...
by MycoVtt · 2024-11-14 · 22 replies
Aaah, I'm so glad Voyage Forum is back up and running. For reading... and for writing...

My last travel journal was from 2019, when I went hiking and backpacking with my son, who was 15 at the time. We visited some places that were still pretty unknown back then! I was supposed to go in April 2020, still solo, with arches as the main focus. I’d spent nearly two months getting physically prepared, and had managed to snag a bunch of permits for CBS, The Needles, and so on... Of course, it all got postponed—first to October 2020, then April 2021, then October 2021, and finally it happened in April 2022. Maybe I’ll write about that in another journal. The thing is, every time, I spend at least 6 to 8 weeks getting physically ready, even though I work out all year. Huge disappointment during that trip—so much had changed because of Covid, kind of like in the mountains back home. Overcrowding, not just in the national parks (we knew about that), but also in a lot of remote, lesser-known spots. Like the French, Americans realized they had a lot of beautiful places in their own country during those travel bans. And they kept exploring... Prices for pretty much everything had already gone up a lot. Gas, restaurants, cars, but especially lodging! Then, after dealing with so much wind in April, I got a little "fed up" with that time of year. It felt like I had strong winds and sandstorms for 3 out of the 3.5 weeks I was there...

So, the next trip was October 2023, to catch the partial eclipse in New Mexico, and of course, a bunch of arches ;). So many arches. Maybe I’ll write about that one too... Then came (among others) April 2024 for the total eclipse, in Texas, but starting from L.A., with my partner Valérie. Since I’d never visited some places I wanted to see further south of my usual loops, it was the perfect opportunity... And here we are at the end of September 2024. Another trip focused on arches—I never get tired of them. Every time I check one off my list, another gets added. Often it’s a photo I’ve seen online or in the NABS (Natural Arches and Bridges Society) magazine, which I’m a member of. I also scour the WAD (World Arches Database) and make a list of arches I want to visit. Fewer and fewer "viewpoints"—I’ve done all the most famous ones, and unless the sky is amazing, the photos all look the same. Since my goal is always photography *and* hiking, I’m always on the lookout. So this time, a packed itinerary—27 days, very busy. In past trips, if I didn’t plan enough and hiked fast, I’d end up with too many "gaps" in my days. This time, I’d rather have too much than too little (like in 2023, actually).

A few stats: - 6,589 km, including +/-1,400 km of off-road trails - 323 km of hiking, 8,829 m of elevation gain - 142 new arches for my collection, including some stunning ones, some less so, and some downright ugly—but all in the WAD. - Two outings with a Navajo guide - Almost no injuries - 8 bivouacs, including 2 backpacking trips - 4 days of backpacking - 22 freeze-dried meals and 15 Subways eaten - 6 thorns in my shoes (long live the tweezers in my backpack) - 3 kg lost (plus the 5 kg lost during prep)

Almost every day, I posted a little update on Facebook for family and friends. So I’ll be copy-pasting those texts here, written "my way" as usual. Some will like it, some won’t—that’s just how it is... 😏

For months, I planned this trip—looking for info, creating GPS tracks on Google Earth, exchanging tips with NABS members and other passionate friends. I snagged permits for The Needles again (4-5 days), for Fiery Furnace, timed entries for Arches National Park (2), and booked just one campsite, a "triple tour" in Monument Valley, and the first night in a motel. This is the first time I haven’t booked 80% of the motels—I was tired of having constraints because of the weather. This time, I want to be able to adjust my plans based on the weather and what I feel like doing more or less of. Camp when the weather’s nice, hotel/motel when it’s crappy.

Here we go...

Day 1

As usual, early morning flights: BRU-AMS, then AMS-SLC. Those who follow me know I’ve been renting a Rubicon from Rugged for years, which "forces" me to land in SLC. Up at 3:30 AM, but I’d been awake since 2:00 AM—the day’s going to be long. Shuttle to the airport. In Brussels, only two check-in counters open. I get there—no cabin baggage weigh-in, while the agent next to me is weighing everyone’s, even kids’ backpacks! A bit of luck, because as usual, if they weighed my backpack *and* my cabin bag, I’d already be over 20 kg. I check two hold bags, since I’ve got a lot of camping/backpacking gear, lots of freeze-dried meals, the backpacking bag, the Bear Canister needed for The Needles, etc. First flight is 30 minutes late, so the second one is already boarding. I’ve got the SSSS mark on my ticket (extra security check), so I head straight to the front when I arrive at the same time as Zone 3, even though I’m Zone 6. I pretend the check will take a while, and it "works"—they didn’t notice! No way I want to board last and risk them making me check my cabin bag. It’s packed with photo gear, laptop, drone, etc.—unthinkable to have to put it in the hold. Always a worry... SLC: baggage claim, customs, and out in 32 minutes. The MPC app makes something that was already quick even faster at this airport. And all the bags are there. That’s always a relief too. Since I drive at least 3 hours straight after landing, losing a hold bag would really mess up the trip and force me to spend the first night closer to SLC. On the way to Rugged. A young French couple from Reims is in the shuttle with me—they discovered Rugged thanks to my post in a Facebook group! Well, the team has changed again, and they lost half the stuff I’d left last October (plastic boxes, pillow, sugar, gas cartridges, folding chair, Crocs, etc.), but at least there are gas cartridges, so I don’t have to go to REI. REI would’ve been at least an hour out of my way. But as far as I know, there are no gas cartridges in Green River. I still get my tent stake hammer back, and a folding chair—different from mine but identical.

20,000 km Rubicon 4Xe, white. I check the tires—they’re in great shape, as requested. I’ll come back to the hybrid later. I didn’t want a hybrid, but that’s all they had this year. Why? Higher fuel consumption, smaller tank, higher cargo floor.

Stop at the Walmart near Provo, whose layout I know like the back of my hand (Walmarts are often similar). Start-of-trip shopping: water, Coke, Gatorade, UHT milk for cereal (not very common in the US), Special K "Almond and Vanilla", cold meds that work well (and don’t exist back home—you never know), two plastic bins, a pillow for the tent, Trail Mix, that’s about it. On the road to Nebo Loop for the fall colors. I’d driven this route last year, in the opposite direction on my way back to SLC, but it was a bit too late. This time, I’m a little early. At the start of the road, the maples are in the sun, so I go up to 2,200 m for the bright yellow aspens, then head back down. Mostly drone shots—no time to go for a walk. After a day like this, 4.5-5 hours of driving is already a lot... Arrived in Green River at 9:00 PM. Organize all the stuff from the bags properly, then sleep.

A few photos from these first few hours.







Mexico: The Magic of the Yucatán
by Lhorizon · 2024-11-11 · 44 replies
Hello everyone,

What a pleasure to be back on VF after a few difficult years 😎 So, before diving into the topic, welcome back to VF and above all... keep going!

Well, I’m finally picking up my old habit of posting a new travel journal.

Before heading to Mexico in the summer of 2023 with my family (my partner and our two boys, aged 18 and 16), I had somehow convinced myself—though I can’t even remember why—that the Yucatán was too touristy, too cliché, too expensive, and overrated!

The country didn’t particularly appeal to me, but faced with my wife’s insistence—she’d been there years ago, before we met, and had promised to show our sons this incredible place—my arguments didn’t hold much weight.

And thank goodness, because I have to admit she was absolutely right to take us there! In the end, we encountered far fewer tourists than we’d feared (except at a few sites), and the prices, which we’d been told were geared toward American neighbors (US), turned out to be quite affordable. In short, it was pure joy on both counts. All that was left was for the trip itself to be beautiful and memorable—and it was...

1st stop: Isla Holbox and the whale sharks

Holbox (pronounced “Hol-bosh”) is a stunning island where you can relax in an enchanting setting.



Our main goal in coming to Holbox was to swim with whale sharks. So, the first thing we told our hotel, Los Arcos Holbox, upon arrival was to arrange an excursion with one of the island’s many tour operators: Glendy Tours Holbox. We set off the next morning, bright and early.

The itinerary for this outing is the same for all tour operators (and there are about thirty of them!): roughly two hours by speedboat, then snorkeling with the whale sharks, followed by another boat ride to Cabo Catoche for lunch, then more boating to a fish-filled snorkeling spot before heading back. In total, the excursion can take eight hours—or even longer.



Besides my two sons and me, there were only two other clients on board—a French couple. Our boat was one of the very first to leave, but after ten minutes, the pilot got a radio call. We turned back without any explanation, returning to the departure dock.

There, a young woman who clearly fancied herself a diva was waiting for us. She was Mexican and boarded the boat, snubbing all five of us while flirting with the pilot and guide, who were suddenly all eyes for her. We couldn’t understand how this diva had convinced our tour operator to turn the boat around just to pick her up when she hadn’t even booked and we were already far out. We left 20 minutes late.

The two-hour journey passed surprisingly quickly, and for good reason: we spotted dolphins six times! They were leaping out of the water as they moved. Pure joy. We stopped whenever they were near the boat.



The photo isn’t great—the ultra-wide-angle lens on my GoPro makes the dolphins look smaller—but at least I got a souvenir.

A few flying fish (exocets) also glided a meter or two above the water as we sped along. The false start was forgotten, and the day was off to a fantastic start in this stunning marine environment...

When we reached the area where the whale sharks were supposed to be, the guide explained that we’d now have to scan the sea until we spotted one. It could take five minutes or forty-five, he said, and if we were unlucky, we might not see any at all!

An hour and a half later—still nothing! The captain then headed toward a distant area where about twenty other boats were already gathered.

Sure enough, there was a juvenile whale shark (still a good eight meters long) there, and all the boats were lining up to approach it slowly, one by one, so as not to scare the animal. Each boat got about thirty seconds within a few meters of it, engine idling, before making way for the next. We were allowed to approach three times, but we weren’t permitted to dive in. That’s normal—such a crowd of divers around a single animal would stress it out, and here, whale sharks are protected by regulations: swimming with them is strictly controlled. There was even a coast guard boat with us at all times, monitoring everyone’s behavior.

We were torn between the luck of seeing such a magnificent animal, even from the surface, and the discomfort we felt about the absurd situation. All those boats lined up just to catch a fleeting glimpse of the shark for a few seconds—let’s be honest, it was ridiculous. In short, the whole thing was unpleasant, and probably even more so for the shark than for us, though it did keep gulping down kilos of plankton as if nothing were happening...

When it was our turn to approach, I dipped my GoPro into the water at arm’s length and framed the shot blindly, hoping for a decent image of the shark.



On the third and final approach, the sixth passenger on board—the one we’d had to turn back for ten minutes after departure—quietly spoke to the guide and captain after putting on her flippers (even though, I’ll remind you, no one was allowed to dive). She wanted them to ask the coast guard for permission to dive with the shark—just her! She whispered so we couldn’t hear what she was offering in exchange.

The two lackeys complied and shouted the request to the officials in front of all the other boats, with no shame whatsoever. With so many witnesses, the coast guard had no choice but to refuse. The diva wouldn’t let it go and asked them to insist, which they did, but the refusal was firm and final.

On the nearest boats, everyone had heard and was stunned. They openly mocked this bimbo who clearly had no shame. Hidden behind her star sunglasses, she responded with a dismissive smile. Pathetic.

The encounter with the shark ended, and we set off for Cabo Catoche, a site on Holbox Island where we were to have lunch.



We were a little disappointed not to have had the chance to see the usual school of whale sharks (they’re often dozens swimming together!), but that’s nature’s way, and we knew it.

And then, an unlikely stroke of luck: a boat ahead of us was putting divers in the water with a pair of adult whale sharks. We joined them, and while we were putting on our masks and snorkels, the guide briefed us. He said my sons and I would go first, followed by the French couple and the diva.

But Miss World, clearly unhappy with this order, quietly complained to the guide, who eventually switched the order. It didn’t bother us since we’d only get a minute in the water anyway—what’s a minute more or less?

So the three of them got in the water, and a moment later, they were done. My two sons and I, sitting on the edge of the boat with masks on and snorkels in our mouths, were ready to finally take the plunge. But instead of continuing to follow the shark, the captain was suddenly all eyes for Miss Silicone! He even let go of the wheel for a moment to help her back on board.

One of the two sharks had already left minutes earlier, and the second was swimming farther away. Other boats were arriving, and the captain went to join the queue 100 meters from the shark. Soon, even more boats showed up. There were way too many people, the shark left, and diving was no longer possible.

I was, of course, a little disappointed not to have fulfilled my long-time dream of swimming with a whale shark, even briefly. But I was mostly disgusted for my two boys, who had been so excited about it. I told the guide exactly what I thought and asked for compensation—not for missing out on swimming with the shark (you can never guarantee seeing one, nature isn’t at our beck and call), but for clearly skipping our turn to dive. He promised a refund.

At the end of the day, back on land, he dropped us all off, and as he was about to leave, I reminded him about the refund. He agreed again, calmly got back on board, and sped off as if nothing had happened—just him and the captain, two total cowards. I couldn’t believe it.

Of course, back at our hotel (which had booked this tour operator—Glendy Tours), I explained the situation and asked for my refund again. The receptionist called the manager, who arrived with the guide. Our runaway wasn’t so cocky anymore. Inside, I was fuming, but I kept my cool during the discussion that followed.

Right off the bat, I made a point of looking the so-called guide in the eyes while telling him he’d run off like a coward. I did my best to stay calm, speaking clearly, staring him down the whole time, and repeating several times that he was a coward, in front of the manager, who didn’t say a word. The guide had clearly been told by his boss to keep quiet because he didn’t utter a word during the entire twenty-minute conversation.

Anyway, I’ll spare you the details, but in the end, the manager only offered us another excursion the next day as compensation for the “inconvenience.” It was just snorkeling with fish, not another whale shark trip. He admitted their fault, but since we had to leave early the next morning and had other bookings for the rest of the trip, we couldn’t accept. And he refused to refund us.

On Tripadvisor, Glendy Tours has a mediocre rating (3 out of 5), but more importantly, it ranks 29th out of 36 nautical tour operators rated by customers. I was pretty upset with the hotel for booking such an amateur for us.



If you want to swim with whale sharks in Holbox, you might end up with Glendy Tours. And it might go well—I certainly hope so. But given the price of such an excursion (3,000 pesos per person, about 160 €!), I’d still suggest quickly checking online before you go to see which providers have the best ratings. You’ll have a much better chance of things going smoothly with the top-rated ones than with those as poorly ranked as Glendy Tours.

On the other hand, if you’re a beautiful young woman, you can choose them without worry—you’ll get better treatment than the rest of us...

To wrap up this excursion, I have to mention the “respect for nature” angle that all these tour operators highlight. They tell us they respect the whale sharks: only two or three people can dive at a time, and only for a few minutes, so as not to disturb these gentle giants...

We believed them before we left, but that’s not what we saw. When the sharks are hard to find except for one, everyone rushes it, and only the constant presence of the coast guard prevents the tour operators from putting their clients in the water.

Because for the second shark we saw, when the divers from our boat got out of the water and we left to join the queue while it was our turn to dive, other boats quickly arrived and started swarming the poor shark, which eventually left.

In other words, it’s clear these companies only respect the sharks when they’re being watched.

Boat reversing a meter away from a pelican

And for the snorkeling near Cabo Catoche, they attract fish daily by feeding them—a practice that’s normally discouraged. Afterward, these fish can’t feed naturally anymore and become dependent on Glendy Tours and its competitors.

A quick note on the rest of the excursion: Cabo Catoche (the site where we had lunch, on Holbox Island) is the northernmost point of the entire Yucatán. The place is paradise.



On the way back, we spent half an hour snorkeling at a site that turned out to be fish-filled only because the tour operators had the bad habit of feeding the fish. But this practice, which isn’t respectful of nature, is normally discouraged.



Plus, life jackets—like in many places in the Yucatán—are mandatory!!



As divers, we didn’t find the site very interesting, but objectively, it should delight those who aren’t used to putting their heads underwater in beautiful dive spots.

We hated feeling trapped in those life jackets, stuck at the surface, and for me, the highlight was swimming next to a pelican that wasn’t too shy—it was paddling right beside me in green water.

Anyway, it seems we can’t post more than 10 photos at once on VF, so I’ll come back with the rest of the journal in another message. Because after these early trip mishaps, the rest of the journey turned out to be magnificent...

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