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voila, j'envisage de faire une surprise a ma femme et je veux lui offrir un voyage aux seychelles au mois de novembre Je souhaiterais faire les 3 iles mahé, praslin et la digue et y sejourner 3 ou 4 nuits pourriez vous me conseiller a savoir: si il est preferable de passer par une agence de voyage ou bien d'organiser soi meme son voyage ( hotel + avion) dans quel ordre visiter les iles (vol interieur - bateau ?) est-il plus souhaitable de sejourner sur praslin et de se rendre sur la digue en navette, cela reduit-il le cout du voyage? enfin toutes questions que l'on se pose à l'organisation d'un voyage

je vous remercie par avance de vos reponses amicalement patrick

05/08/06 Arriver a Johannesburg vers 21h, une personne de l'Airport Game lodge vient nous recuperer.La 1ere sensation: le froid!!! a peine 10°. Nous passons une nuit tres fraiche dans le lodge mais un bon petit dejeuné nous met en forme car aujourd'hui on prend notre voiture de loc chez national (Alamo) et direction le Blyde river canyon.

06/08 Apres 4 h de route nous arrivons a Graskop, avec un petit arret dejeuné a Sabie, nous avons reservez au Panorama restcamp pour 2 nuits, un lodge au borg des falaises avec une vue imprenable!! L'apres-midi, visite des mac mac falls et mac mac pools: un peu deçu des pools mais les falls sont magnifiques. La nuit tombe tres vite: 17h30

07/08 Levé 6h, un enorme petit dej chez Harry's pancakes (c'est vraiment trop trop bon !! Faut absolument qu'on trouve la recette) et nous voila partis pour le Blyde river canyon. Au programme: Berlin falls: sympa, Bourke's luck potoles: exeptionnel, Three rondavels: sublime, le + beau point de vue du blyde, Lisbon falls: sympa, et nous finissons la journée par Pilgrim's rest un petit village de chercheur d'or tres mignon mais un peu piege a tourisme.

08/08 Levé 5h30 et depart pour le Kruger!!! changement de paysage durant la route, beaucoup de villes et villages traversés, beaucoup d'enfants qui marchent le long de la route pour rejoindre l'ecole avec de grands sourires et pleins de mains qui se levent pour nous saluer. Il est 8h30, nous voila à la porte du Kruger:Orpen gate, on achete la Wild carte qui nous donne acces à tous les parcs nationaux pendant 1 an pour 1380 rands pour 2. Nous avons reservés 2 nuits a Oliphants et 1 nuits a Skukuza. A peine les 1er kilometres avalés dans le Kruger et deja les animaux!!!! girafes, phacochères, babouins, elephants, hippos, zèbres, buffles... on en prend plein les yeux, les paysages sont mangnifiques, c'est le dépaysement complet. Une étendue vaste d'herbes asséchées par le soleil et le manque d'eau qui varient entre l'herbe rase et les coins arborés et touffu. C'est assez étonnant loin des images du kenya ou tout simplement que nous pouvions nous en faire à travers les divers reportages TV. Oliphants est vraiment un camp superbe qui surplombe la riviere du meme nom ou les animaux viennent s'y desalterer. Ce soir on part avec les gardes pour un sunset drive: une ballade en 4*4 au coucher du soleil pendant 3h: nous avons pu voir une hyene, une genette, des zèbres, gnous, girafes... et surtout 4 superbes lionnes, un spectacle exeptionnel.

09/08 Levé 4h30 depart 5h 00 pour un morning drive avec le meme garde: nous avons pu voir des rhinos blancs (aux jumelles principalement car très loin) mais toujours pas de lions, léopard ou guepard... En fin d'apres midi nous prenons la voiture pour une petit escapade à la recherche de carnassiers!! Nos efforts sont récompensés: un lion allongé au bord de la rivière et un peu plus loin, un magnifique léopard qui se dirige aussi vers la rivière: impressionnant.Ca y est, on a le BIG FIVE !!!!

10/08 Depart pour Skukuza qui est proche de la Paul Kruger gate. En chemin toujours beaucoup d'animaux et surtout 2 rhinos en train de lutter à quelques mètres seulement de nous ! : impressionnant ! de magnifiques troupeaux d'elephants, des buffles... Par contre l'arrivée à Skukuza détonne ... ça fait un peu l'usine a comparer d' Oliphant, trop de monde et de bruits...

11/08 Levé 5h30 et depart pour le Swaziland et la Mliwane Wildlife sanctuary, avant de sortir du kruger nous apercevons 2 superbes lions!!! apres un passage par la frontiere (assez fastidieux ! ils sont pas bien pressés et il faut passé par 4 bureaux différents !) nous decouvrons un paysage de moyenne montagne et des villages assez (très) pauvres. c'est dur de quitter le Kruger et d'arrivée au Mliwane: ça fait un peu calme mais nous pouvons voir des crocodiles, beaucoup de zèbres, impalas, gnous... et surtout une tonne de phacochères ! on pars en vtt pour decouvrir ce parc et la joie de ne pas devoir etre cloitrer dans la voiture. ça fait du bien la liberté ! Le soir nous assistons à une danse en costumes traditionnels de Swazi.( à mourir de rire ! ils n'étaient pas bien sérieux et bien que ne comprenant pas le swazi on a bien compris que les collègues qui étaient assis étaient entrain de se moquer à haute voix ceux qui chantait (depuis un moment il faut le dire) histoire de les destabiliser.

12/08 Depart pour St lucie, changement de paysage radical (forêt tropicale, très vert et terriblement humide) et la vue de l'ocean indien est magnifique. On va sejourner 2 nuits au B&B Igwalagwala : tres sympa et confortable. Visite de Cape Vidal, l'ocean indien est magnifique, les plages aussi . On profite de l'ocean pour manger du poisson et des fruits de mer frais!

13/08 Visite du parc Hluhluwe - Umfolozi a 1h de St Lucie. Le parc est magnifique, vraiment different du Kruger (très vert et vallonés), on a pu voir des éléphants, rhinos, buffles, zèbres, giraphes, gnous, impalas... pas de carnassiers mais les paysages sont splendides. Un parc a recommender!!

14/08 Depart pour Durban 2h de route, on loge dans un backpacker bien sympa dans le quartier Borea. Premiere impression d'une ville aux maisons barricadées assez dur, nous partons à la visite de Durban et du marché indien de Victoria market ("grande expédition à pied" tout seul du bord de plage jusqu'au victoria street market qui n'était pas forcément une bonne idée ...): un grand sentiment d'insecurité dans cette ville meme sur le bord de l'ocean, nous decidons de n'y rester qu'une seule nuit. En fin de journée nous visitons l'aquarium qui vaut le detour.

15/08 Depart pour la Wildcoast, l'ancien Transkeï, et Port St John. Un poste de controle sanitaire filtre le traffic a l'ancien poste frontiere, a partir de la, le changement est radical, un paysage vert/jaune d'herbes rases et de moyenne montage avec beaucoup de maisons Xhosas, la route est "défoncée" (plein de potholes d'au moins 50/70 cm de diamètre et de 20 de profondeur de quoi y laisser la voiture !), les villages tres pauvres et surtout une legere pluie commence a tomber avec un peu de brouillard. 5h de route et nous voila a Port St John au bord de l'ocean, nous dormons a l'Island backpacker: a recommender aussi! Malheureusement il pleut des cordes donc pas de surfeur, et pas d'activités possibles. Nous faisons connaissance avec les proprios du backpacker et passons une excellente soirée mais au vue de la meteo nous ne resterons pas plus longtemps malheureusement car cela semblait être un endroit magnifique typé forêt amazonnienne au bord de l'océan...

16/08 Aujourd'hui c'est grosse journée voiture pour rejoindre Grahamstown, une ville etudiante completement differente de ce qu'on avait pu voir auparavant. On va dormir dans une ancienne prison reconvertie en backpacker.( pour les claustrophobes à éviter et très mauvaise nuit car on a eu des fans de métal qui ont eu la bonne idée de mettre du AC/DC à fond dans le bar du backpacker jusqu'à 2h du mat' !) ! On visite l'observatory museum ( possédant l'une des rares camera obscura qui existent au monde) ainsi que la ville, assez sympa.

17/08 Depart tôt pour Addo elephant park : parc splendide de part ses animaux et ses paysages verts. Enormenent d'elephants mais nous avons aussi croisés une tortue leopard, et 1 wildcat ! Ce soir on dors a Jeffrey's bay : le paradis des surfeurs a l'island vibe backpacker: a recommender au bord de l'ocean! Vue, logement et accueil super !

18/08 ce matin c'est balade sur la plage a cheval organisé par le backpacker. vraiment bien, beaucoup de galop sur la plage!!!!! l'apres midi shopping en ville chez les factory shop de quicksilver, billabong... et ballade sur la plage: un peu de repos qui nous fait grand bien!

19/08 Depart pour plettenberg bay mais a notre arrivée la pluie est la... on dors au nothando backpacker: tres bien! journée gachée par la pluie nous voulions aller voir les baleines... la meteo annonce beaucoup de pluie encore...

20/08 & Direction Swellendam ou nous retrouvons le soleil une petite ville etape au bord de la garden route avant la route des vins.

21/08 Nous voila sur la route des vins pour arriver a Franschoek et le Chamonix cottage. On visite le domaine "grande provence":exploitation impresionnante et vraiment tournée vers le tourisme et la visite.Nous vistons aussi le musée ainsi que la ville tres sympa et bardée d'influence française.

22/08 Direction le Cap, on passe a coté d'un immense townchip proche de l'aeroport... on a reserver 1 nuit a Simon's town pour visiter le Cap mais a la decouverte de notre maison, le rockland B&B, avec vue sur l'ocean indien nous decidons de sejourner ici pour le reste du sejour :le centre de Capetown etant a 40 min en voiture . Nous partons a Cape point : epoustouflant !! y a pas de mot c'est magnifique malgré qu'on se soit fait piquer notre picnic par les babouins!!!!! Le cape de bonne esperance est magique aussi avec des sentiers de balades pour joindre les 2 cap .Pleins de vue sur les 2 oceans.Les routes qui longent les oceans sont magnifiques.

23/08 aujourd'hui boulder's beach pour voir la colonie de pinguins: vraiment marrant, ils sont tres nombreux et la plage est tres belle. L'apres midi on part pour le domaine de Groot constantia: visite des caves, degustation et visite de la proprièté: immense et tournée aussi vers le tourisme! (et puis déçu par les vins) on rentre a simon's town par la route qui longe l'ocean atlantique: c'est magnifique avec une belle vue sur Robben Island.

24/08 au programme visite de Capetown, le castle of good hope (pas mal), le musée du district 6 avec un guide qui habitait ce fameux quartier cosmopolite qui a été rasé (extrêmement intéressant le guide était passionnant et leur histoire pas vieille poignante), le quartier malais tres coloré, le musée de l'apartheid vraiment interessant et en fin de journée la colline de Signal hill avec une vue magnifique. Le soir nous allons faire un très bon "seafood restaurant" à Simon's town le "Black Marlin".

25/08 Ce matin visite des jardins de Kirstenbosh, 36 hectares de plantes, fleurs... une belle promenade dans ce magnifique jardin. Nous dejeunons au Waterfront avant de prendre la bateau pour Robben Island, l'ile prison de Mandela et bien d'autres prisonniers politiques. La visite est tres interessante et faite par un ancien detenu.

26/08 Derniere journée mais quel programme: ce matin nous partons (enfin!) en mer pour voir les baleines depuis Simon's town (en effet, depuis le début de notre arrivée à Cape town, il y avait trop de vent pour sortir): une douzaine de baleines vues dont 6 de tres tres pres !!! impressionnant, enorme, magnifiques .... pas de mots pour décrire à quel point cette rencontre est géniale. l'apres midi nous prenons le telepherique pour monter a Table mountain, la vue est impressionante, la monté et descente aussi!!! seulement 3min, la haut une belle ballade pour cloturer notre voyage car a 23h20 nous decollons pour la France ....

Et le retour est difficile ...

En bref un voyage pleins de constrastes tant au niveau humain qu'au niveau des paysages.

Hi,

Je voudrais faire un petit reportage photographique sur ce lieu culte ou je ne suis encore jamais allé car je ne connais pas du tout cette région. Quelqu'un a t-il déjà fait cette excursion mais "hors des sentiers battus"! Je veux dire par là, pas en voyage organisé mais plutôt soit par ses propres moyens(bus, train, taxi, etc.), et peut t-on naviguer au milieu des marchants? comment et avec qui sur place(guide ou autres?) Enfin toutes les informations concrêtes que vous aurez avec ces critères m'interresseront. Thanks a lot

Bye-bye🙂

😎 HELLO......Nous serons dans la region du Cap fin novembre....nous planifions une visite dans une cave vinicole....pouvez vous nous donner des adresses, ainsi que des hebergements.....merci a vous

Bonjour à tous, Toute nouvelle sur ce forum je viens vous demander quelques renseignements...Voilà dans quel pays pensez vous que l'immigration soit la "plus laxiste" ou en tout cas qui accepte facilement les gens qui désirent changer de vie ;). Car au fil de mes recherches je me suis apperçue qu'immgrer cela n'est pas aussi simple que ce que je pensais...il ne suffit pas seulement de le vouloir ;)

merci par avance à tout ceux qui pourront me répondre

Pour les parigot et les parigottes... (les autres aussi d'ailleurs 🤪)

Salut à tous 😎

En parcourant les échanges, je note que certaines personnes sont seules pour voyager, d'autres aimerait élargir leurs champs d'amis pour compagnoner en voyages...ce qui est mon cas... aussi, je me demande si cela n'est pas mieux d'organiser une rencontre avec ceux qui sont intéressés pour mieux se connaitre et élargir le champ d'ami(e)s...

Alors, on peut, peut etre, étant donné que l'on habite paname, se rencontrer et faire connaissance en live... cela me semble bien...

ensuite si les affinités amicales se font, on pourra projeter de voyager ensemble...au moins vu qu'on se connaitra, on aura moins de réticences à partir à l'aventure ensemble...

qu'en pensez vous ? on srencontre autour d'un verre, d'une rando ? si c ok, j'organise la sortie !!!

aucune limite d'âge, bien entendu...simple limite : rencontre purement et essentiellement amicale

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Bonjour a tous et aussi a Loopkin

Donc voici les chiffres de la Colombie en matiere d insecurite ( reponse au post de Loopkin ).

Le taux d homicide est le nombre de meurtre pour 100.000 hab.

Pour La Colombie, une bonne chose, ca va mieux !, le taux est de 44, 70 ...( il baisse, puisque le maximum avait ete atteind en 1991 avec un taux de 79, 0 ) .....pour ce qui sont des chiffres officiels de meurtres en Colombie :

2002 : 28.836 homicides dans le pays

2004 : 20.200 homicides dans le pays .............donc on peut dire que ca va mieux !

Pour ce qui est de Bogota ........je ne sais pas encore, je cherche !

J ai quelques chiffres concernant l annee 2000 pour les autres pays de la zone ( mais en Amerique ca bouge vite ...donc il faudrait les reactualiser...)

Pour l annee 2000 :

Canada : 1, 8 (2000)( Ottawa, la capitale la plus tranquille d Amerique : 1, 08 (1999) ) Bravo les canadiens ! ( mais attention la France est a 1, 54 (2004) donc encore plus tanquille) Pour Paris 2, 2 (1994).

Chili : 3 (2000) ( Pays d Amerique Latine le plus tranquille )

Etats Unis : 5, 5 (2000) ( attention, par contre en ville ca se dechaine : New York : 9, 38 (1999) et Washington est a 50, 82 (1999)

Argentine : 7, 2 (2000) ( Buenos Aires : 10, 76 (2004) )

Mexique : 12, 5 (2000)

Equateur : 15 (2000)

Bresil : 19, 7 (2000)

Venezuela : 33 (2000)

Colombie : 79 (1991), 65 (2000) et 44, 70 (2004) ( Pour l instant c est la championne du continent ! meme avec une baisse au cours des 15 dernieres annees )

Pour en revenir a l Argentine, comparant les chiffres de 2003 et de 2004, il y a du mieux, en effet le taux d'homicide a baissé ( mais peut on se fier uniquement a ce qui se passe entre deux annees....?....attendons donc encore de voir les chiffres des prochaines annees ).

En conclusion : Aux deux extremes du tableau en matiere de pays : le Canada et de l autre la Colombie.

Pour ce qui est des villes...je cherche la moins dangereuse et la plus dangereuse ...je vous tiendrai au courant !

A bientot !

Herge !

Bonjour à toutes et à tous.

Je reviens du Yémen ; si certains veulent des infos, je peux leur en donner.

Je suis entrain de regarder le second débat Bush-Kerry et suis obligé de rallumer mon PC...

Je n'aimerais pas être un citoyen américain ce soir... On me demanderai de choisir entre un menteur et un menteur !...

Bush est entrain de dire qu'il fallait taper sur la gueule de l'Iraq (alors que c'était le seul pays laïque de cette partie du monde) pour éradiquer la menace du terrorisme international islamique... Amusant lorsque l'on pense qu'il a été prouvé et re-prouvé (par ses propres conseillers) que l'Arabie Saoudite était le réel creusot de cet axe du mal... De plus les conclusions des experts de l'ONU sont accablantes : l'Iraq n'avait pas d'armes de destruction massive et n'avait pas l'intention d'en acquérir... Et Bush de surenchérir "c'était un risque potentiel, il fallait intervenir"... sic.

Kerry, se débat en disant à qui veut l'entendre qu'il a un plan... Quel plan ? Enfin !! il vient de cracher le morceau !! : "se rapprocher de nos alliés"... Confondant et imparrable ! N'oublions pas que ce sont les démocrates qui ont maintenu cet odieux embargo en Iraq qui a fait crever plus de 500000 enfants de sous nutrition...

Je suis d'habitude d'un naturel compréhensif vis à vis des USA, mais franchement...

De qui se moque t'on ?

Bonjour à tous,

Franchement ce n'est pas simple de choisir ou passer ses vacances de Noel surtout entre Djerba et Hurghada.

Pour finir, mon choix se dirige vers l'egypte grace a son climat tres doux meme en hiver et son ensoleillement.

Donc, j'aimerais bien savoir si quelqu'un connait le club marmara a Hurghada.

Il est en all in si j'ai bien lu mais est ce vraiment un all in complet ou alors un all in avec des restrictions niveau boissons ect.

Est ce que l'hotel est grand, propre, comment est la piscine, la plage?

Est il loin de la ville?

J'attend avec impatience toutes vos reponses.

Merci

Vacances de pâques, avril 2000. Tout d'abord une semaine de croisière. Nous étions un groupe de 20 personnes. En attendant le passage de l'écluse d'Esna, nous avons été distraits par des vendeurs en barques qui s'arrêtent le long des bateaux de touristes et envoient leur marchandise (nappes et djellabas) par-dessus bord. Original... Première visite pour le temple de Philae à Assouan. Ah ! Belle Isis, que ton destin fut tragique mais grandiose ! Notre guide nous a raconté son histoire grâce à un petit jeu de rôle. Passage par le haut barrage - impressionnant ! et par la carrière où gît toujours l'obélisque inachevé d'Hatshepsout . Bizarre de se dire qu'il y a 3500 ans qu'il existe et de penser aux ouvriers qui se sont échinés longtemps pour rien, que dalle ! Après-midi, départ en felouque pour la visite du jardin botanique de l'île Kitchener, escortés par des enfants en barquette propulsée à force d'huile de bras, qui nous chantent" Il était un petit navire" et se réjouissent de recevoir quelques bics en cadeau... Lendemain petit matin, départ en avion pour le site d'Abou Simbel. Tout simplement FABULEUX !!! Dans le grand temple, j'étais carrément 3250 ans en arrière, sur les traces de Ramsès et sa chère Néfertari (elle a eu de la chance d'être aimée au point de se voir dédier un si beau temple...) Dire qu'ils ont été creusés à même la roche et 3200 ans plus tard, démontés en 1036 blocs et remontés 64 mètres plus haut... Petit détour par la classique école de papyrus où l'on ne peut que se laisser tenter par une de ses créations que l'on pourrait croire d'époque pharaonique. Profitons du soleil sur le bateau pendant que l'on nous conduit à Kom Ombo où l'on visite le temple à la tombée de la nuit. Je crois que c'est le seul temple double : 2 divinités - Sobek et Haroeris - salle d'attente pour la visite du peuple au prêtre-médecin de l'époque et ses momies de crocodiles. Sur le bateau, soirée djellaba et dans les cabines, les stewards - tout le personnel est masculin - fabriquent des animaux à l'aide de serviettes de bain (crocodiles, singes etc)... super bien fait ! Départ en calèche pour le temple d'Edfou dédié à Horus, un des temples les mieux conservés car longtemps enfoui dans le sable. Ensuite navigation vers Esna où l'on visite le temple de Khnoum qui a gardé quelques jolies couleurs. Enfin LOUXOR et ses merveilles : Karnak (visite de jour et son et lumière le soir comme à Philae) où l'on se sent tout petit au milieu de la salle hypostyle avec ses 134 colonnes de 23 mètres, l'obélisque d'Hatshepsout ma reine préférée, le scarabée d'Aménophis III autour duquel les célibataires doivent tourner 7 fois pour trouver l'âme soeur, le lac sacré, la chapelle blanche dédiée surtout à Amon Min. Escapade à la bijouterie Radwan pour acheter un ankh, un cartouche et autres babioles. Temple de Louxor où subsiste une partie du dromos (allée de sphinx qui jadis le reliait à Karnak) Musée de Louxor qui recèle de vrais trésors, notamment une tête d'Akhenaton devant laquelle je suis restée pantoise. Etre ainsi face à face avec ce drôle de pharaon... troublant...Cinq heures du mat pour éviter les grosses chaleurs, direction la vallée des rois (tombes de Ramsès III, IX et Aménophis II - indescriptibles je vous renvoie aux illustrations) ; très jolies aussi les tombes dans la vallée des artisans, près des ruines du village de Deir el Medineh, peut-être les plus colorées, ainsi que la vallée des reines. Malheureusement, personne n'allait voir Néfertari et nous nous sommes seulement arrêtés devant le temple d'Hatshepsout sans le visiter. D'après notre guide, il est très abîmé à l'intérieur. Temple de millions d'années de Ramsès III à Medinet Abou et salutations aux colosses de Memnon ont clôturé cette croisière puis nous avons quitté le groupe.Repos bien mérité à l'hôtel Mövenpick sur l'île du crocodile à Louxor. Au bord du Nil, petits bungalows disséminés dans un jardin luxuriant, super piscine, navette gratuite pour le centre ville, couchers de soleil imprenables... Le paradis pendant 3 jours... Changement de décor : mégalopole du Caire - mais une guide rien que pour nous : citadelle de Salah al Din, mosquée du sultan Hassan, visite trop rapide au musée (masque d'or du roi Tout bien sûr incontournable et très émouvant- le contenu de sa tombe occupe tout le premier étage - Akhenaton et Néfertiti, Aménophis III et Tiyi, Khephren...) Pyramides de Gizeh avec leur gardien sphinx (impressionnant !). Je ne suis pas entrée dans la pyramide, j'ai préféré voir la barque solaire de Kheops découverte en 1955 (grandiose !). Memphis et son colosse couché de Ramsès II (il est vraiment partout !) Et pour terminer, la pyramide de Djoser et le temple de Saqqarah. Malheureusement, les plus belles choses ont une fin - et c'est le coeur lourd que je suis rentrée en Belgique car j'ignore si j'aurai encore la chance de retourner là-bas... Tout ce que j'ai vu dépassait de loin mes espérances les plus folles. Les Egyptiens malgré leur relative misère sont très souriants, accueillants, jamais pots de colle, et paraissent plus heureux que nous. Grâce à ce récit, j'ai pu un peu revivre 2 semaines idylliques. J'espère que la longueur de mon message ne vous a paru rébarbative et que ceux qui ont déjà visité l'Egypte ont pu retrouver des souvenirs ; quant à ceux qui n'y sont pas encore allés, ils puissent avoir eu un avant-goût de cette superbe aventure qu'ils vivront peut-être un jour.

Hi everyone,

I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).

Here’s what we’re thinking of doing: 22 July: arrival in Johannesburg Night of 22–23: Johannesburg Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th) Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th) Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?) Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari) Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?) Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?) Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th 10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home

What do you think? Is there a lot of driving time?

We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions. Thanks!

Nadia

Some trips are born twice.

Ours was supposed to happen in 2020. Everything was ready: the itinerary, the flight tickets, hotel reservations and Machu Picchu, the rental car, dreams of high altitudes and wide-open spaces. And then the world stopped.

Like so many other plans, our trip to Peru was put on hold. Disappointment was followed by a more concrete reality: paperwork, endless back-and-forth, and battles to recover some of the costs we’d already paid.

The years went by. Life moved on, with its shifting priorities and unexpected twists. Rescheduling this trip wasn’t possible until 2025.

The itinerary stayed mostly true to what we’d imagined five years earlier. One major difference, though—in 2020, we’d planned to rent a car and explore the roads completely independently. Most importantly, we hadn’t included the three-day Ausangate trek, due to lack of time.

For 2025, our plans evolved. 4x4 rental prices had skyrocketed, and when we looked at our schedule more closely, we realized quite a few days didn’t actually need a vehicle. So we made a different choice and opted for private drivers instead. A decision we never regretted. Always punctual, thoughtful, and available... they were so much more than just drivers.

All our reservations were made in January, except for the trek, which we booked in February.

Finding reliable drivers on our own was tough, so we asked Laurent from Tout Pérou to handle it for us. Going through Tout Pérou also gave us a discount on the train ride to Aguas Calientes, so Laurent booked those tickets too. He also bought our Machu Picchu entrance tickets at the same price we would’ve paid on the official website. When comparing domestic flight prices, we found it was cheaper to book from Peru, so Laurent took care of those as well.

This time, nothing was going to stop us. Peru was waiting. And we were ready. 🙂

Hey everyone,

Yesterday, I checked the Thailand forum to see if there were any questions to answer, but not much was happening—it was pretty quiet. Then I scrolled through the Southeast Asia section and realized that, even though Burma (Myanmar) was included, there weren’t many posts about it... I’ve only been there once, back in 1987, so it’s hard to create a photo thread about multiple trips like I sometimes do for Thailand. Still, that one trip was packed with unusual adventures, so I thought I’d share a few stories from it.

Since I didn’t take any notes at the time, this is all from memory—it’s not an exhaustive travel journal and isn’t meant to help plan a future trip to Myanmar.

Don’t expect photos; there won’t be any. I have some, but they’re slides that would need scanning and editing one by one to fix the wear and tear of time—way too much work.

The Context.

Back then (reminder: 1987), I was volunteering in Paris at the counter of a travel agency on Rue des Écoles. The agency was part of a well-known organization based in Mulhouse that mostly offered scheduled flights to Asia, charter flights to the Mediterranean, and flights to Mali with their own plane. They also had a few rare "roots"-style trips to certain destinations—trips where you didn’t bring your tennis racket but were ready to soak in everything, even if it meant tough conditions.

I’d already been to Thailand, Indonesia, and the Philippines in Asia. The director knew this, so he asked me to accompany a group to Burma. At the time, tours to Burma were already being sold by competitors, but they all had to go through the state-run agency, Touristburma (buses and hotels for tourists, and they only showed you what they wanted you to see—kind of like traveling in North Korea today). The service was only payable in dollars at the official exchange rate (which was six times worse than the black market rate, mind you...), and since it went through the state agency, all the money ended up with the junta.

My job was to do everything *without* going through Touristburma, which was completely illegal there. Nothing would be booked in advance. Back then, the Burmese visa was only valid for 8 days/7 nights, and since clients were paying for the experience, the itinerary was planned ahead. I’d have to find transport and a guide on the black market as soon as I arrived.

The clients weren’t misled—they knew from the start that the trip would be off the books, that officially we’d be a small group of friends (not an agency), unlike the truth (Touristburma wasn’t mandatory for individual travelers), and that it would be challenging. They also knew their trip would cost 3-4 times less while giving them a much better experience of Burma. As for pretending to be a group of friends, there were only six of us, so it worked out.

To cover all expenses (accommodation, transport, excursions), the agency gave me a sufficient budget. They also gave me the *same* budget a second time, which was strictly for bribing officials who might cause trouble, for backshish (tips), and, if needed, to "help" me get out of prison.

Before I left, I was thoroughly briefed by another guy who’d led the previous trip (he’d dealt with all the initial challenges). He explained everything I needed to know, what to watch out for, and advised me on what to bring as "gifts" (samples of well-known perfumes, specific cigarette and whisky brands, etc.). For the perfume samples, I rallied my family, friends, and even stores. For the rest, I’d pick things up at the duty-free shops in Don Muang (Bangkok’s only airport at the time)—I had the budget for it.

I couldn’t wait to leave...

Hi there,

We’re back from our 3-week trip to South Africa in July. It was a family trip with our four grown-up kids (ages 18 to 25).

First off, I’d like to thank everyone on this forum for their great tips—they really helped us plan this trip!

The trip: We spent 15 days between Port Elizabeth and Cape Town, then a week around Kruger (including Blyde River Canyon). We found South Africans to be welcoming and always ready to help. We never felt unsafe (just followed basic safety rules). The police are very visible, especially on the roads.

Logistics: We’d booked our accommodations in advance but made a few changes on the spot based on how we felt at the time. We rented two vehicles from Firefly (Hertz). No complaints—recent cars, quick returns, and the deposit wasn’t charged. We’d gotten our international driver’s permits... which stayed in France! Luckily, no one asked for them. Driving on the left wasn’t an issue (it wasn’t our first time). The roads we took were in good, even great, condition. Only a few tracks to lodges or parks were rough and required extra caution. Lots of pedestrians on the sides of roads, even highways. And plenty of very slow trucks. But they pull over to let you pass. It’s also common for cars to cross into the opposite lane to overtake, even with white lines. We took two domestic flights: one early in the morning (Johannesburg to Port Elizabeth) and one in the late afternoon (Cape Town to Johannesburg) to save time.

We had some highlights and a few disappointments—all part of the journey! More details coming soon.

Hello everyone,

I’ve wanted to take this Norway cruise for a very long time. The first time I booked it was in July 2020 with Azamara. Unfortunately, it was canceled, as everyone remembers. When I tried to book it again, the prices (already a bit high with Azamara) had simply doubled. So, since then, I’ve been keeping an eye out every year for any opportunities...

The last time we sailed with Princess was eleven years ago, and things didn’t go very well. I came back pretty unhappy with their service and quite disappointed. Despite the $600 they gave me as credit for a future cruise, I’d never set foot on one of their ships again.

But this time, the opportunity arose—a fantastic itinerary with lots of stops, a reasonable price for 16 nights (I’ll share the details in the conclusion), and a ship that’s not too big, so to speak, with only 3,000 passengers. I’m not expecting much from the cruise line this time and am boarding the ship with low expectations beyond the itinerary.

Princess has introduced an app to download before the cruise. It’s essential because online check-in is no longer available, and the agency doesn’t send a travel journal. Everything is done through the app. After completing the check-in on the app, we only know that we’ll need to pick up our key, the Medallion, at embarkation by following the blue line in the terminal and presenting our passport.



Up until our departure, the weather forecast for the coming week in Norway is disastrous—rain, rain, and more rain. It was pretty much the same two years ago before our Iceland cruise, and in the end, the weather turned out fine.

If you’re ready to embark on the Emerald Princess to discover this beautiful cruise and the stunning landscapes of Norway, let’s go!

Southampton - Sea day - Bergen - Olden - Åndalsnes - Sea day - Tromsø - Honningsvåg (North Cape) - Alta - Sea day - Molde - Trondheim - Two sea days - Edinburgh - Sea day - Southampton

Hi everyone. Because that’s also what sparks the desire in every traveler (well, at least for me) to set foot on Australian soil: discovering a new continent.

Right now, I’ve got some time on my hands—those who follow me know that. A nasty muscle tear (which really doesn’t want to heal) is keeping me grounded for another week, so I’ve decided to open a new travel journal, recounting my recent trip from December 14, 2024, to January 12, 2025, in Australia.

The origins of this trip started last May in Crete, an island I chose for a 10-day break. It’s really lovely, by the way, but that’s not the point… It’s around this time every year that we decide on our next winter destination, and Argentina was at the top of the list—Sydney wasn’t even on the radar… I’d been looking at flights to Buenos Aires for a while, and the prices were shocking… But by the pool one lazy afternoon, scrolling on my iPhone, a promo from Geneva to Sydney caught my eye. The deal ticked two boxes on my traveler’s bucket list: a flight to Australia and a flight with Singapore Airlines, often ranked as the world’s best airline. A quick chat with the missus (well, of course!) and the decision was made: off to the land of kangaroos! Now, once you add luggage and Economy Plus, it still comes to 1600 € per person, but that’s a reasonable price. Either way, we already know what we’re in for—Australia is a budget commitment!



Thanks to 123rf for the image loan 😛

This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.

VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.

Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.

Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.

Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?

After five trips to the American West, we had planned to switch countries and continents to visit Turkey. However, by the time we made up our minds, flight ticket prices had nearly doubled, reaching 400 € for a round-trip ticket. A bit disappointed, I started looking at transatlantic flight prices and stumbled upon discounted tickets from Basel-Mulhouse to Dallas—at the same price as our tickets to Turkey!

No hesitation needed; we bought the five tickets for a total of 1,860 € excluding baggage!

From Fort Worth Airport, we had two options: - Head west on a loop through Texas, New Mexico, and southern Colorado - Head east to change the scenery and explore East Texas, Louisiana, with a possible detour into Florida.

The latter option won unanimously, so here we are, off to discover new states, mainly Louisiana and Texas.

One of the main post-COVID challenges is finding a reasonably priced car rental. After an initial booking around 1,300 €, we kept an eye on prices a few weeks before departure and managed to snag a better deal at around 900 € for a comfortable sedan.

Yes, this summer will also be a first: no 4x4, no camping, and plenty of restaurants!

As always, I’ve planned a packed itinerary, ready to adjust on the go. A few weeks before departure, we learned we’d be at full capacity—our eldest son, Maxime, got his first-year med school results. By finishing as a top admit, he avoided the mandatory July-August internship that would’ve kept him from joining us. Instead, he wrapped up his internship at the last minute the night before our big departure.

We’ll get to savor these special moments together.

The itinerary: Day 1 - 07/15: Fort Worth Day 2: Dallas Day 3: Jefferson - Caddo Lake Day 4: Black Bayou Lake - Natchez - Stanton Hall and Rosalie Mansion Day 5: St. Francisville - Rosedown Plantation - Cat Island Wildlife Refuge Day 6: Mobile - USS Alabama Battleship Memorial Park Day 7 - 8: Pensacola Beach Day 9: Bellingrath Gardens - New Orleans Day 10 - 11: New Orleans Day 12: Plantation Route Day 13: Jungle Gardens - Tabasco Factory - Vermilionville - Lake Martin Day 14: Baton Rouge - USS Kidd Day 15: Houma - Cajun Man's Swamp Tour Day 16: Galveston, Texas Day 17: Space Center Houston - Painted Churches Day 18: San Antonio Day 19: Texas Hill Country Day 20: Texas Hill Country and evening in San Antonio Day 21: Austin and Waco

Day 0 - 07/14: The departure timing isn’t exactly relaxing. On Thursday late afternoon, we hit the road to Alsace, aiming to drop off our two cockers with family before reaching the airport at 2 AM for a 3-hour power nap. Not exactly fresh, we arrive at the terminal looking for a British Airways counter. None in sight, so we try our luck at a United Airlines counter—who knows, maybe it’ll work out. And bingo! The agent checks us in. We didn’t quite understand why, but maybe there’s some agreement between airlines. For the first time, we’re traveling without checked baggage, so no extra fees. Not a huge feat, given the scorching temperatures awaiting us!

The connecting flight to London goes smoothly.

During the layover, liquid checks get stricter—now requiring small bottles to be in a pre-approved clear bag, with only one bag allowed per passenger. Normally, no big deal, but between deodorant, sunscreen, after-sun lotion, hand sanitizer, contact lens solution, etc., we spend 20 minutes optimizing the arrangement! When we finally succeed, one of the security staff bursts out laughing and congratulates us!

With our stomachs growling, we grab an American breakfast before browsing the airport shops.

We then discover our plane for the long-haul flight and are thrilled to see it’s an A380—a first for Laetitia, though the rest of the family experienced it during our winter getaway. Still just as impressive!

With a hint of uncertainty, we take off for the States—my third trip in barely 12 months. This time, no endless badlands, canyons, slot canyons, hoodoos, or brain rocks, but a journey through five states (Texas, Louisiana, a quick stop in Mississippi, Alabama, and the northwest tip of Florida), where we hope to soak up a unique vibe... with a packed schedule of diverse visits.

Arrival at Fort Worth Airport and customs go smoothly. Since we have no checked baggage, we’re first in line at the Dollar counter. In just 3 minutes, the formalities are done. We decline the Toll Pass, which I don’t think we’ll need based on my "calculations," and head to the Dollar parking lot, where an employee tells us we can pick any car we want!

There are about thirty cars waiting. Too many choices!

After last year’s mishap in Oakland, where our 4x4’s trunk was broken into, we’re looking for a sedan to hide our luggage this time. Unfortunately, there are none—only SUVs. We finally settle on a comfortable 7-seater Ford SUV with a massive trunk when set up for five.

On the road from Fort Worth to Dallas, we accidentally take a toll highway without realizing until it’s too late to exit. Let’s hope Dollar doesn’t charge us a week’s worth of their pricey Toll Pass for a $2 toll. We’ll see... In the meantime, Maxime sets up Google Maps to avoid toll roads.

Since it’s not too late, we stop by the nearest Walmart for groceries before checking into our hotel room for three nights in East Dallas suburb.

CORSICA From September 24, 2024 to October 9, 2024 Thank you, thank you, thank you for reactivating my favorite forum, which has given me so many ideas for my trips since... 2008—it’s been ages, as they say! So, to celebrate its return, I’m sharing this little travel journal from our latest road trip, not too long ago, since it was Corsica in the autumn. Autumn is the ideal season to visit Corsica: fewer tourists, perfect temperatures around 25°C, and, most importantly, less stress on the roads. You can feel it everywhere. Servers and shopkeepers are more relaxed and have time to chat (yes, Corsicans do talk... but not all of them!)

09/24 Arrival in Erbalunga Whether you're from northern France or Belgium, like us, the easiest way to reach the Isle of Beauty is by flying from Lille-Lesquin Airport. Volotea offers two destinations: Bastia and Ajaccio. Be careful, though—while the ticket prices are attractive, the airline makes up for it with baggage fees. A 25kg suitcase for 212 €—that really drives up the cost of transportation! For us, it’ll be Bastia. After this short flight and an arrival that lets you clearly see the east coast of Cap Corse, we’re welcomed by our friend Jean-Claude, who’s kindly hosting us for a few days. We met this Corsican and his wife during our four-year stay in French Guiana, and I have to say, he completely changed my opinion of Corsicans and even made me want to visit his island. The house, clinging to the rock above the sea, is stunning and offers a breathtaking view of the island of Elba. I’d always heard of Elba but must admit I wouldn’t have known where to place it before. We’ll stay here for five nights, long enough to explore the north of the island.



Since we’ve just arrived, Jean-Claude wants to show us his village, ERLALUNGA, a quiet little port, and the small village of CASTELLO above it, where he spent a lot of time in his childhood...

This adventure began during Covid... Yep, Covid turned a lot of things upside down, but most of all, it kept us cooped up for a few months and stopped us from traveling for a while—even longer for a die-hard fan of the American West like me.

While borders were closed, I started imagining what an ideal itinerary might look like—one that would string together all the Southwest must-sees in just two weeks, during the best time of year: September and October. When the U.S. announced in September 2021 that borders would reopen in the coming weeks, I regained hope and began scouting flight tickets for a departure in September 2022.

But here’s the thing: tackling solo hikes, each one tougher than the last, right in the heart of the Wilderness, could be a risky—even reckless—endeavor for a father of three. After a quick chat with some virtual friends who are just as passionate about the Southwest as I am, with good physical condition and nearly the same list of must-visit spots, Franck and his brother Sullivan were in! 🙂

In November, we snagged flight tickets from Nice to San Francisco for the modest sum of 400 €, and a few days later, I booked a Toyota Tacoma pickup for 840 € !

It’s not cheap for just 15 days, and a pickup isn’t exactly ideal for luggage, but the prices for full-size 4x4s have become totally outrageous! Due to border closures, rental companies had to offload a lot of these big 4x4s, which tourists love. Then, supply and demand did the rest !

Franck and I spent the winter and spring trying to cram the equivalent of three weeks of hikes into two. But even with physical limits, we had to stay reasonable! Three to four months before departure, we entered the lotteries for different must-see spots: The Subway, Coyote Buttes North (home to the famous Wave), and Coyote Buttes South (CBS).

The Wave is the holy grail for any Southwest enthusiast. Since 2015, we’ve tried our luck with the online and on-site lotteries about ten times, but the spots are unfortunately limited: just 20 per day. A glimmer of hope, though—since early 2022, that number has increased to 64 people allowed per day, with 48 spots awarded via the online lottery.

After all three of us tried our luck for The Wave, on June 1st at exactly 5 PM, I got an email that started with, "Congratulations! You were successful in the Coyote Buttes North (The Wave) September 2022 Permit Lottery at Coyote Buttes North (The Wave)...". At 5:01 PM, I called Franck, whose dream it’s been for over 20 years—ever since the first photos were published in a travel magazine! He didn’t believe me when I told him, and I had to forward the email for him to finally accept the unbelievable: we were going to The Wave and all the incredible spots scattered across the protected area of Coyote Buttes North.

I’ve already been to Coyote Buttes South twice, but there are areas I couldn’t explore in the middle of summer because they were too remote. So, I had no trouble letting my buddies convince me to go back for a third time. Plus, given how hard it is to access, we had no trouble securing a permit online as long as we logged in at exactly 8 PM on the dot!

For The Subway, all three of us struck out. No big deal—we won at CBN and CBS!

Among the sites to visit, there are two that I’m particularly attached to because I know my chances of wanting to see them again are slim. The first is Angel Arch, one of the most legendary arches in the Southwest, due to its remoteness from any trace of civilization. To get there, the recommended hike is Upper Salt Creek, and you’re looking at a 50 km round-trip in an area with no water (in September) and populated by bears.

The second site is the Hopi Salt Trail, in Navajo land, which, after a very tough hike, lets you marvel at the turquoise-blue waters of the Little Colorado before it meets the Colorado River. The Hopi Salt Trail is, like The Wave, the holy grail for any Southwest enthusiast, and the windows of opportunity to see the water in that magical color are very short each year. For this, you have to monitor the Little Colorado’s gauges downstream from Cameron: if the level stays at its lowest for 10 consecutive days—meaning no rain—you can hope for turquoise water. The ideal period rarely exceeds 30 days a year, and it’s usually in June that all the stars align.

But unfortunately, one month before departure, while the flow rate at Cameron looked promising, several storms in September dashed our hopes of doing the Hopi Salt Trail, even at the end of the road trip.

We still had two consolation prizes, though:

After a last-minute cancellation, while keeping an eye out for available spots for The Subway, it turned out that three spots opened up exactly on the day we’d planned to go—so we rushed to grab them!! Regarding the 4x4 rental, the prices for full-size models dropped by several hundred dollars, and we ended up finding a Chevrolet Tahoe for less than $1000. A steal and a serious boost in comfort, so we could store all our gear and food without worry!

Here’s the initial plan in a perfect world: D1 The White Domes - Camping D2 Sunrise at The White Domes - The Subway D3 Coyote Buttes North D4 Coyote Buttes South - White Pocket D5 Wahweap Hoodoos - Sidestep Canyon - Colourful Canyon - White Rocks - Sunset at Yellow Rock D6 Broken Bow Arch - Reflection Canyon D7 Coyote Gulch D8 The Volcano (or The Oasis - Zebra Slot Canyon if the weather’s good) - North Caineville Mesa D9 The Needles: Squaw Canyon - Lost Canyon combo - Druid Arch - Chesler Park D10 Upper Salt Creek Day 1 - Camping D11 Upper Salt Creek Day 2 D12 Hopi-Navajo Territory: Ha Ho No Geh Canyon, Coal Mine Canyon, Bends of the Little Colorado D13 Grand Canyon: South Kaibab Trail and Bright Angel Trail D14 Upper East Zion: East Temple Loop, Jughandle Arch, Center of the Universe, and Checkerboard Mesa Summit And several backup options in case of bad weather, including Spencer Trail, West Cove, and Buffington Pockets.

Enough talking—time for action!

Hello everyone,

What a pleasure to be back on VF after a few difficult years 😎 So, before diving into the topic, welcome back to VF and above all... keep going!

Well, I’m finally picking up my old habit of posting a new travel journal.

Before heading to Mexico in the summer of 2023 with my family (my partner and our two boys, aged 18 and 16), I had somehow convinced myself—though I can’t even remember why—that the Yucatán was too touristy, too cliché, too expensive, and overrated!

The country didn’t particularly appeal to me, but faced with my wife’s insistence—she’d been there years ago, before we met, and had promised to show our sons this incredible place—my arguments didn’t hold much weight.

And thank goodness, because I have to admit she was absolutely right to take us there! In the end, we encountered far fewer tourists than we’d feared (except at a few sites), and the prices, which we’d been told were geared toward American neighbors (US), turned out to be quite affordable. In short, it was pure joy on both counts. All that was left was for the trip itself to be beautiful and memorable—and it was...

1st stop: Isla Holbox and the whale sharks

Holbox (pronounced “Hol-bosh”) is a stunning island where you can relax in an enchanting setting.



Our main goal in coming to Holbox was to swim with whale sharks. So, the first thing we told our hotel, Los Arcos Holbox, upon arrival was to arrange an excursion with one of the island’s many tour operators: Glendy Tours Holbox. We set off the next morning, bright and early.

The itinerary for this outing is the same for all tour operators (and there are about thirty of them!): roughly two hours by speedboat, then snorkeling with the whale sharks, followed by another boat ride to Cabo Catoche for lunch, then more boating to a fish-filled snorkeling spot before heading back. In total, the excursion can take eight hours—or even longer.



Besides my two sons and me, there were only two other clients on board—a French couple. Our boat was one of the very first to leave, but after ten minutes, the pilot got a radio call. We turned back without any explanation, returning to the departure dock.

There, a young woman who clearly fancied herself a diva was waiting for us. She was Mexican and boarded the boat, snubbing all five of us while flirting with the pilot and guide, who were suddenly all eyes for her. We couldn’t understand how this diva had convinced our tour operator to turn the boat around just to pick her up when she hadn’t even booked and we were already far out. We left 20 minutes late.

The two-hour journey passed surprisingly quickly, and for good reason: we spotted dolphins six times! They were leaping out of the water as they moved. Pure joy. We stopped whenever they were near the boat.



The photo isn’t great—the ultra-wide-angle lens on my GoPro makes the dolphins look smaller—but at least I got a souvenir.

A few flying fish (exocets) also glided a meter or two above the water as we sped along. The false start was forgotten, and the day was off to a fantastic start in this stunning marine environment...

When we reached the area where the whale sharks were supposed to be, the guide explained that we’d now have to scan the sea until we spotted one. It could take five minutes or forty-five, he said, and if we were unlucky, we might not see any at all!

An hour and a half later—still nothing! The captain then headed toward a distant area where about twenty other boats were already gathered.

Sure enough, there was a juvenile whale shark (still a good eight meters long) there, and all the boats were lining up to approach it slowly, one by one, so as not to scare the animal. Each boat got about thirty seconds within a few meters of it, engine idling, before making way for the next. We were allowed to approach three times, but we weren’t permitted to dive in. That’s normal—such a crowd of divers around a single animal would stress it out, and here, whale sharks are protected by regulations: swimming with them is strictly controlled. There was even a coast guard boat with us at all times, monitoring everyone’s behavior.

We were torn between the luck of seeing such a magnificent animal, even from the surface, and the discomfort we felt about the absurd situation. All those boats lined up just to catch a fleeting glimpse of the shark for a few seconds—let’s be honest, it was ridiculous. In short, the whole thing was unpleasant, and probably even more so for the shark than for us, though it did keep gulping down kilos of plankton as if nothing were happening...

When it was our turn to approach, I dipped my GoPro into the water at arm’s length and framed the shot blindly, hoping for a decent image of the shark.



On the third and final approach, the sixth passenger on board—the one we’d had to turn back for ten minutes after departure—quietly spoke to the guide and captain after putting on her flippers (even though, I’ll remind you, no one was allowed to dive). She wanted them to ask the coast guard for permission to dive with the shark—just her! She whispered so we couldn’t hear what she was offering in exchange.

The two lackeys complied and shouted the request to the officials in front of all the other boats, with no shame whatsoever. With so many witnesses, the coast guard had no choice but to refuse. The diva wouldn’t let it go and asked them to insist, which they did, but the refusal was firm and final.

On the nearest boats, everyone had heard and was stunned. They openly mocked this bimbo who clearly had no shame. Hidden behind her star sunglasses, she responded with a dismissive smile. Pathetic.

The encounter with the shark ended, and we set off for Cabo Catoche, a site on Holbox Island where we were to have lunch.



We were a little disappointed not to have had the chance to see the usual school of whale sharks (they’re often dozens swimming together!), but that’s nature’s way, and we knew it.

And then, an unlikely stroke of luck: a boat ahead of us was putting divers in the water with a pair of adult whale sharks. We joined them, and while we were putting on our masks and snorkels, the guide briefed us. He said my sons and I would go first, followed by the French couple and the diva.

But Miss World, clearly unhappy with this order, quietly complained to the guide, who eventually switched the order. It didn’t bother us since we’d only get a minute in the water anyway—what’s a minute more or less?

So the three of them got in the water, and a moment later, they were done. My two sons and I, sitting on the edge of the boat with masks on and snorkels in our mouths, were ready to finally take the plunge. But instead of continuing to follow the shark, the captain was suddenly all eyes for Miss Silicone! He even let go of the wheel for a moment to help her back on board.

One of the two sharks had already left minutes earlier, and the second was swimming farther away. Other boats were arriving, and the captain went to join the queue 100 meters from the shark. Soon, even more boats showed up. There were way too many people, the shark left, and diving was no longer possible.

I was, of course, a little disappointed not to have fulfilled my long-time dream of swimming with a whale shark, even briefly. But I was mostly disgusted for my two boys, who had been so excited about it. I told the guide exactly what I thought and asked for compensation—not for missing out on swimming with the shark (you can never guarantee seeing one, nature isn’t at our beck and call), but for clearly skipping our turn to dive. He promised a refund.

At the end of the day, back on land, he dropped us all off, and as he was about to leave, I reminded him about the refund. He agreed again, calmly got back on board, and sped off as if nothing had happened—just him and the captain, two total cowards. I couldn’t believe it.

Of course, back at our hotel (which had booked this tour operator—Glendy Tours), I explained the situation and asked for my refund again. The receptionist called the manager, who arrived with the guide. Our runaway wasn’t so cocky anymore. Inside, I was fuming, but I kept my cool during the discussion that followed.

Right off the bat, I made a point of looking the so-called guide in the eyes while telling him he’d run off like a coward. I did my best to stay calm, speaking clearly, staring him down the whole time, and repeating several times that he was a coward, in front of the manager, who didn’t say a word. The guide had clearly been told by his boss to keep quiet because he didn’t utter a word during the entire twenty-minute conversation.

Anyway, I’ll spare you the details, but in the end, the manager only offered us another excursion the next day as compensation for the “inconvenience.” It was just snorkeling with fish, not another whale shark trip. He admitted their fault, but since we had to leave early the next morning and had other bookings for the rest of the trip, we couldn’t accept. And he refused to refund us.

On Tripadvisor, Glendy Tours has a mediocre rating (3 out of 5), but more importantly, it ranks 29th out of 36 nautical tour operators rated by customers. I was pretty upset with the hotel for booking such an amateur for us.



If you want to swim with whale sharks in Holbox, you might end up with Glendy Tours. And it might go well—I certainly hope so. But given the price of such an excursion (3,000 pesos per person, about 160 €!), I’d still suggest quickly checking online before you go to see which providers have the best ratings. You’ll have a much better chance of things going smoothly with the top-rated ones than with those as poorly ranked as Glendy Tours.

On the other hand, if you’re a beautiful young woman, you can choose them without worry—you’ll get better treatment than the rest of us...

To wrap up this excursion, I have to mention the “respect for nature” angle that all these tour operators highlight. They tell us they respect the whale sharks: only two or three people can dive at a time, and only for a few minutes, so as not to disturb these gentle giants...

We believed them before we left, but that’s not what we saw. When the sharks are hard to find except for one, everyone rushes it, and only the constant presence of the coast guard prevents the tour operators from putting their clients in the water.

Because for the second shark we saw, when the divers from our boat got out of the water and we left to join the queue while it was our turn to dive, other boats quickly arrived and started swarming the poor shark, which eventually left.

In other words, it’s clear these companies only respect the sharks when they’re being watched.

Boat reversing a meter away from a pelican

And for the snorkeling near Cabo Catoche, they attract fish daily by feeding them—a practice that’s normally discouraged. Afterward, these fish can’t feed naturally anymore and become dependent on Glendy Tours and its competitors.

A quick note on the rest of the excursion: Cabo Catoche (the site where we had lunch, on Holbox Island) is the northernmost point of the entire Yucatán. The place is paradise.



On the way back, we spent half an hour snorkeling at a site that turned out to be fish-filled only because the tour operators had the bad habit of feeding the fish. But this practice, which isn’t respectful of nature, is normally discouraged.



Plus, life jackets—like in many places in the Yucatán—are mandatory!!



As divers, we didn’t find the site very interesting, but objectively, it should delight those who aren’t used to putting their heads underwater in beautiful dive spots.

We hated feeling trapped in those life jackets, stuck at the surface, and for me, the highlight was swimming next to a pelican that wasn’t too shy—it was paddling right beside me in green water.

Anyway, it seems we can’t post more than 10 photos at once on VF, so I’ll come back with the rest of the journal in another message. Because after these early trip mishaps, the rest of the journey turned out to be magnificent...

Bonsoir à tous,

Etant en train de réfléchir à d'éventuels futurs voyages, je me heurte bien sûr à la situation de la crise sanitaire.

Cela a-t-il affecté votre façon de voyager et prévoir vos voyages ?

Là par ex, je regarde les destinations où le masque n'est pas obligatoire à l'extérieur, où il n'y a pas (trop) de risque de quarantaine, etc.

Mais aussi les conditions d'annulations/report selon les pays.

Je vois qu'Airbnb ne remboursera pas les voyageurs en cas de confinement ou quarantaine. C'est donc la course aux logement flexibles, il y en a peu... pour l'avion cela dépend de la compagnie.

Mon prochain voyage prévu et payé, c'est avec Wizz Air pour la Pologne. Pas de remboursement (sauf si vol annulé bien sûr) mais les prix étant faibles, je prends le risque ! L'hébergement est annulable également.

Ces paramètres influent sur le choix des futurs destinations.

Et vous, comment procédez-vous ?

Je vous donne rendez-vous ici pour vos photos hors concours, pour discuter, échanger, conseiller, apprendre et s'amuser 😛

Le concours se passe par-là: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10330487;a=10330487

Et voilà... Nous voilà repartis sur un nouveau voyage en perspective auquel on a pas pu résister. En effet, Qatar Airways avait lancé une offre de 10 000 billets gratuits (juste les taxes à payer) pour les soignants (je suis infirmière) On n’a hélas pas réussi à avoir un code promotionnel mais quelques semaines plus tard on a reçu un code promotionnel à 50% et on a saisi l opportunité. Sur le fil du rasoir, on a réussi à avoir deux billets aller retour et on s est décidé pour 15 jours dans la région du cap en Afrique du Sud du 16 au 30 novembre. Il y a évidemment un risque d annulation si COVID-19 mais les billets seront alors reportés. On part donc sur un road-trip en 4x4 avec matériel de camping pour alterner nuits en camping et hôtel. On va se concentrer sur la région du Sud et je suis donc preneuse de vos lumières... A vos stylos !!!

Bonjour, nous avons prévus d'aller aux USA du coté des grands parcs (Yellowstone, Grand téton et Mont Rushmore) pour un départ le 3 juillet à destination de Denver (via Montréal par Air canada affrété par Brussels airlines) et un retour le 22 juillet (idem par air canada-brussels airlines). Nous avons acheté nos billets sur gotogate et nous ne savons pas si nous allons pouvoir partir ou pas, nous n'avons aucune informations quand aux fermetures des frontières qui évoluent de jours en jours ! Sur le site de gotogate nous n'avons pas beaucoup d'infos et sur brussel airlines comme nous n'avons pas acheté directement chez eux, ils nous disent qu'il faut se tourner vers le prestataire qui nous a vendu les billets à savoir Gotogate, j'ai lu que plusieurs personnes essayaient déséspérement d'avoir un avoir ou un remboursement en vain ! Que devons-nous faire ? vers qui se retourner ? Faut-il encore attendre le 15 juin, car le gouvernement ne sais pas encore s'il vont réouvrir les frontières jusqu'à cette date. Nous sommes perdus nous aimerions reporter notre voyage d'un an si possible. Nous espérons récupérer l'argent mis dans les billets (plus de 2200 euros). Merci par avance de votre aide ! poutsouch60

Déréclusion !

Je ne suis pas à un néologisme près.

Parce que j’me demande : Suis-je libre ? En liberté surveillée ? Contrainte ? Coercition sanitaire et salubrité publique... J’crois que secouer les peurs est mille fois plus efficace qu’un bracelet électronique. Voir le monde entier en pause, je ne pensais pas le vivre. Je comprends aujourd’hui avec quelle rapidité pourrait s’installer une dictature.

J’me demande pourquoi je ne ressens aucune crainte, pourquoi je me sens à mille lieux des peurs dont j’entends parler. Suis-je normale ? Suis-je inconsciente ? J’ai vu des gens avec un masque en voiture, mettre des gants pour tenir un chariot de magasin, où s’arrête le bon sens ? C’est quand même horripilant de se sentir infantilisé. Quand j’entends toutes ces sommités parler, j’ai l’impression qu’elles s’adressent à une population de mômes.

Parait que certains sont porteurs sains et transmettent le virus, paraît que certains ont eu la maladie sans s’en apercevoir et ont des anticorps, paraît que certains ont été malades et ont développé des anticorps, paraît que certains n’ont jamais été en contact et ne seront jamais malades, paraît qu’il faut qu’il y ait 60 % au moins de gens avec des anticorps pour l’immunité collective. Ca s’appelle RO lala.

Et beaucoup sont morts et au regard de l’humanité sur nos plus de 7 milliards, c’est une goutte. Une goutte d’acide et de chagrin pour les familles et amis des décédés, c’est certain. Des cataractes de panique pour des millions d’autres qui tremblent d’entendre un reniflement ou un éternuement. J’me demande aussi combien sont morts de faim et de maladie dans le même temps et aussi combien vont mourir des dégâts induits par le monde à l’arrêt.

Combien de pandémies ont-elles eu lieu sans que le monde occidental ne bouge un cil ? Un virus à la volette et qui disparaîtra comme tous les virus avant qu’un autre ne prenne le relais. C’est ainsi depuis toujours.

Ma solution : je respecte les peurs et angoisses des autres. Je respecte les consignes assenées à longueur de temps. Mais dans l’absolu, au fond de ma p’tite tête, j’pense tout autre chose et me tiens coite.

Je saisis au vol cette remarque d'Attila (que je partage!)

Franchement, je serais le gouvernement, je demanderais l'asile en ...?... et dirais aux français, démerdez vous.

et cette autre :

On fait le coucou dans les discussions mais jamais on n'en entame une...

pour proposer un nouveau post sur un mode très différent de voyager.

Où aimeriez-vous partir vivre?

Bien sûr vous choisissez votre pays ou région d'accueil, on part du principe que ce n'est pas une obligation que l'on vous fait.

Et vous avez besoin de vous éloigner momentanément de votre lieu de vie habituel, pour quelque raison que ce soit.

Quels seraient les atouts locaux importants pour vous de cette nouvelle installation : population, climat, paysages, archéologie, autres .... ?