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nous recherchons un endroit sympatique pour passer quelques jours ( jolie petites villes avec marché, bel environnement, etc... ) avant de descendre vers une ile du sud qui pourrait être ko phan ngan ou ko jum(nous voyageront 3 semaines avec 2 enfants de 18 mois et 4 ans) merci pour toute suggestion!

J'ai pas pu m'empécher de mettre cette photo. Et c'est pas pour me la péter et je sais qu'il y a plus impressionnant. Prière de ne pas me lyncher.🏴‍☠️ Soyez sympas, les voyageur2000, les vieuxpicard et autres edtortue ayez pitié de moi 😠 Donc cette photo à été prise pas loin de PhuChiFa, ChiangRaï, Thaïlande. Si vous en avez du même style merci de me les faire montrer😛

Bonjour,

J'envisage de partir visiter la Thailande durant 1 mois à vélo, quels sont les meilleurs itinéraires ? Je sais que les mois de juillet et août tombent en plein durant la saison des pluies, mais est-ce-que entre 2 averses, ça laisse le temps de pédaler 🤪?

Je voyagerai avec un vélo de route, mais équipé avec des pneus "trekking" (marathon plus), j'ai fait Cuba avec le même vélo et les mêmes pneus et je n'ai eu aucun problème. Est-ce-que ce genre de vélo est adapté pour la Thailande ?

Merci pour toute info

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Nous n'avons pas encore choisi notre point de chute à Bangkok. Pour se déplacer à Bangkok est ce qu'il vaut mieux le skitrain ou le métro ? Peut-on passer de l'un à l'autre facilement. Ensuite quel est le meilleur quartier (+ de restaurant, + de commerce et proche des marchés de nuit) Vaut-il mieux Silom, siam square ou sukhumvit ? Merci si quelqu'un a des détails sur chaques quartiers.

Laurence

Salut a tous,

Apres avoir bien surfer sur le Voyage-forum, j ai vu pas mal de fois que le quartier de Koa San road etait tres peu aime des voyageurs de ce site(trop touristique, pas reellement le''vrai''Bangkok...) Mais quelqu un peu me dire alors ou faut il loger si on ne reste que deux jours a Bangkok pour les principales visites des temples les plus jolis, une visite dans le MBK pour le shopping etc...sans passer des heures dans les embouteillages ou dans le metro pour rejoindre le centre??

Merci beaucoup a+

Quelqu'un aurait il une idée sur des sites particulièrement interressant à BKK pour un enfant de 9 ans? (on habite en montagne et paasons l'hiver au ski, alors inutile de me mentionner le frigo géant !!!!!) merci de vos idées

Bonjour !!

Le 27/11 nous partons pour la 1è fois durant 17 jours à Bangkok, mais mis à part l’avion, nous n’avons toujours rien réservé comme logement, et je dois avouer que ça me stresse un peu 😠… Est-il vraiment nécessaire de faire ça à l’avance ou est-ce qu’on pourra trouver quelque chose sur place sans trop de problèmes ? Il ne nous faut pas spécialement un cinq étoiles, tant que c’est propre, et bien situé, on est content…

On ne sait pas non plus exactement combien de jours consacrer à Bangkok, ni ce qu’il faut visiter en priorité aux alentours. Ce qui est clair, c'est qu'on voudrait voir un maximum de choses sans pour autant faire des distances énormes, la visite du Nord du pays sera pour un autre séjour…

Par contre on voudrait aussi se reposer quelques jours sur une île, notamment pour suivre des cours de plongées, nous avons repéré Kho Tao dans un guide qui nous semble être spécialisé dans la matière. Première question : point de vue logement, faut-il réserver à l’avance ? On parle de bungalow à louer, ça peut être sympa, mais est-ce facile à trouver, et pas trop cher ? Et deuxième question : comment peut-on se rendre le plus facilement de Bangkok vers cette île (ou vers une autre île si vous avez mieux à proposer) ?

Je vous remercie beaucoup pour votre attention et pour vos conseils !!!! 😉😉

Hi there,

I’m looking for a beach spot within 3 hours max of Bangkok for the end of my trip (January). I know full well I won’t find that postcard-perfect vibe of the more remote islands! But I don’t have a choice. If you’ve got any ideas... no high-rises, obviously not Pattaya, somewhere quiet, swimming possible, a hotel right on the beach (and not too dirty, the beach itself!) I’ve looked at hotels around Ko Samet or, across from it, on the mainland. I spotted the Bann Pae Cabana. But nothing really exciting on either side. New ideas welcome! 🙂

“Hey, your Marker... - My Marker? - The one you used to make hitchhiking signs.”

The marker in question is sitting proudly on the kitchen table. Marielle found it at the bottom of a moving box.

I’ve been meaning to tell the long story of my love affair with hitchhiking for years. Here we go.

To be honest, I’m not quite sure when it started. My earliest memory goes back to a fair with a bike race in my maternal grandparents’ village. I was with my cousin, my little sister, and three girl cousins. There were six of us, ages ranging from six or seven to thirteen or fourteen. Our parents stayed at the fair, and we’d had enough. So we decided to walk home. Only it was four kilometers away. So we hitchhiked. A guy driving an old car picked us all up and dropped us off at the farm. He probably found it amusing to see us thumbing a ride by the side of the road, but maybe it also worried him a bit. With everything you read in the papers...

Around fifteen or sixteen, I started hitchhiking regularly, alone or with a friend, to go to the nearby town. But it was especially when I started boarding school in Orléans that it became more regular. The first year, I’d leave Monday morning and come back Saturday noon by bus. It was an old, uncomfortable bus where we froze in winter. To make matters worse, I often got motion sickness if, as was too often the case, I ended up sitting in the back. In the spring, a high school friend suggested I hitchhike back. It meant a slight detour, but the advantage was taking only national roads.

So that’s how, from the end of tenth grade to twelfth grade, I’d thumb a ride every Saturday on the Pont de Bourgogne. Drivers were used to seeing young people hitchhiking, and it worked pretty well. Our biggest fear? Soldiers! At that time, military service was still mandatory, and on weekends, it wasn’t rare to see them competing with us. They’d keep their uniforms on to go home. That gave people confidence—with everything you read in the papers—and they’d rarely wait more than five minutes. We, with our long hair, were definitely less popular. From time to time, three big red-faced guys in a van coming back from a construction site would flip us off, yelling things like “go get a haircut, you bums!” Those were the good old days.

We still had a good laugh, though. Patrice, the friend I’d hitchhike back from school with on Saturdays, is a musician—I’d later discover he’s an excellent composer. A die-hard Beatles fan, he knows their repertoire by heart and spends his time singing at the top of his lungs while we thumb a ride. One Saturday late morning, we’d been waiting for a while at the exit of Châteauneuf-sur-Loire when a little lady came up to him and asked if he could please sing a little quieter: a baby was sleeping in the house. He put on the most sorry face: “Oh, sorry ma’am, we didn’t realize.” No sooner had the lady gone back inside than he started again. Luckily, a car stopped just then, sparing me the embarrassment of seeing the lady come back out.

Saturday was also the day when the cigarette pack was dangerously low. So before leaving, we’d go buy some “Parisiennes,” the “P4s” as we called them back then. They were slightly thinner cigarettes with a mix of tobacco scraps. Sometimes they tasted like light tobacco, sometimes like dark. Not great, but by the end of the week, our pocket money was gone. They were sold in small packs of four, hence the name P4. We’d only pay 20 centimes. On Saturdays, it was rare for the two of us to manage to scrape together 1.50 F to buy a whole pack of Gauloises...

The last twenty kilometers, I’d usually do alone, Patrice having reached his destination. From time to time, luck would smile on me: an acquaintance would just happen to pass by and stop. One January Saturday, at the exit of Gien, I ran into another guy from Argenton whom I knew a little. That day, the weather was nice, but the temperature was well below zero. It was around noon, and it was the off-peak hour. We were shivering, stamping our feet by the side of the road, when a Citroën “Tube” arrived: it was his father’s boss’s, a mason. They were both sitting in the front, but since they were obese, they had us climb onto the open back. Even though we huddled against the cab to shelter from the wind, the twenty kilometers felt very long, especially since we were only going sixty kilometers an hour. Our hands and cheeks were blue when we finally arrived.

The year I took my baccalaureate, a friend with a 2CV would take me Monday mornings with one or two others we’d pick up in nearby villages. We’d share the gas costs, but it was still cheaper than the bus. And in winter, the bus was my nightmare. You had to get up at five to catch it at six. Not enough sleep, and outside it was freezing or raining—or both. The 2CV was luxury. Plus, Philippe would pick me up at home. On the other hand, since I didn’t have class Saturday mornings—well, I did, but we only had PE the first two hours and nothing after—I’d skip class and slip out right after breakfast to thumb a ride at the Pont de Bourgogne.

Those three high school years were formative in this optional subject that was hitchhiking. Little by little, I learned the rules of the game. First, you shouldn’t walk along the road while thumbing. Cars go too fast and can’t stop easily. Accepting a ride that’s too short is also a no-go. The guy who offers to take you a little way but drops you off at some vague crossroads in the middle of nowhere? No thanks. You need to get dropped off in a town. If it’s a fairly big city, you often have to cross it from one end to the other, but it’s better. At the exit, you have to choose your spot well. Actually, you have to put yourself in the driver’s shoes: they need to see you early enough, not be going too fast, and be able to stop easily without risking an accident. So when leaving a city, it’s better not to go too far. It’s wiser to find a spot where cars go slowly and can stop easily. And preferably near a café. The café is for when you still have a few coins for a coffee and need to warm up. From time to time, you’d run into someone nice who’d make a detour to drop you off at a better spot to start again. Finally, if possible, avoid hitchhiking on Sundays. Cars are packed with whole families who, most of the time, aren’t going far. And then there’s the little worry of those people who rarely leave home: with everything you read in the papers...

During those high school years, it was only short trips, rarely exceeding a hundred kilometers. Later, I aimed bigger, and things were a bit different. In 1973-74, I crossed part of France for the first time on two or three occasions, coming back from the German border or returning to Bordeaux, where we lived briefly. Since there weren’t many highways back then, we took national roads. It was during these trips that I realized it was better to leave in the evening. As I said earlier, Sunday is to be avoided, but on weekdays, there’s another problem: if you leave in the morning, you only make short hops. First, it often takes longer to get going because drivers are people going to work nearby. Which brings us back to those who drop you off in a bad spot, far from everything. There, you have to know how to refuse. You thank the driver for stopping—oh, if only everyone could be like you—while explaining why you’d rather stay put. People don’t take offense, by the way. Those who pick up hitchhikers often hitchhiked themselves when they were in the military or before they had a car. In the late afternoon, you’d often run into salespeople or truckers, in other words, people who drive a lot. At that time, salespeople no longer had appointments and were more relaxed. They wanted to talk about something other than the merits of their products. On the radio, it was time for *Les Grosses Têtes*. You’d also quite often run into small business owners, professionals, or even hippies. The conversations were pleasant and often enriching. A little later in the evening, truckers would take over. They’d already driven a few hundred kilometers, and the depot or customs was still far away. So they’d gladly take a hitchhiker to stay awake at the wheel and chat. The radio with Max Ménier’s show *Les routiers sont sympas*, you’d eventually get tired of it. So a hitchhiker was a change. Others, who’d hit the road at midnight to be at their destination by morning, were nice and offered to let you lie down on the bunk while they drove. When you’d been hitchhiking since six in the evening, freezing in the wind between two vehicles, you weren’t unhappy to take a little nap.

Speaking of Max Ménier, he’d often make announcements for hitchhikers. One evening, I called him. It was getting late, and I still had quite a way to go. No luck: the show had ended for good the day before!

In short, it’s better not to rush, sleep in, and leave after lunch, or better yet, in the late afternoon. Obviously, I’m talking about when you have several hundred kilometers to cover. That’s when you have to play it pro.

First thing, especially at night, but it also applies in the middle of summer when the light is blinding: dress to be seen from far away. I’ll admit I have an advantage over most other hitchhikers: I’m small and don’t scare people. To balance that out, racist drivers often take me for an Arab and are less likely to pick me up, but overall, the balance tips in my favor. Back to the need to be seen: at night, I wear light-colored clothes. In headlights, you can see me from far away.

Second thing: travel light. Forget the big backpack with a frame. Drivers don’t always have room in the trunk or on the back seat, especially if it’s rained and the ground is wet. Plus, it forces them to get out of the car. If they’re nice enough to pick up a hitchhiker, you shouldn’t ask for too much either.

Third thing: bring a cardboard sign and a big marker—like the ones in the photo at the start of this post—to write the name of your destination. In the early 80s, I ran a tourist house in the Cher, but I lived in the Netherlands. In the off-season, it was only open on weekends. On Fridays, I’d leave Holland and return on Mondays. 1200 km round trip. On the way there, in Paris, I’d stand at Porte de la Chapelle. At that spot, the road is very wide, and drivers could stop easily. Obviously, on the sign, I didn’t write Eindhoven, which not everyone knows, and even less Amsterdam because of its seedy reputation. In that case, you’d expect to see a police car stop and two officers in kepis ask for your papers. So as a first destination, I’d write Compiègne. We were well out of Paris, and since it wasn’t too far, a trucker or salesperson was less reluctant to stop. Once past Compiègne, I’d take out my Lille sign. Once in Belgium, it wasn’t really necessary to use a sign anymore, since everyone was going in the same direction. Usually, the guy who picked me up at Porte de la Chapelle would say he wasn’t going far but could take me a little way. Before that, I’d still ask if there was a gas station on the highway where he could drop me off before exiting. While talking, the guy would realize he wasn’t dealing with a dangerous criminal. He’d pretend to check his watch, think for a moment, then say that actually, he was going to Belgium and could take me to the border or a little beyond. To leave Paris on the way back, I’d take the train to Melun, where it was easier to hitchhike than at Porte d’Italie.

Over all those years, I think I was pretty lucky. Or maybe philosophical enough not to imagine a car would stop after a few minutes. An hour’s wait was average. Sure, I sometimes waited three, four, or five hours. Most often at odd hours and in terrible weather. When it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. But there’s always a moment when things pick up. Sure, when you’re soaked in freezing rain in the early morning after a sleepless night, you’re less philosophical than when I’m writing these lines comfortably at my computer, but it still holds true.

Earlier, I mentioned clothing and the importance of being well-rested before leaving. When you’ve eaten well and just gotten out of the shower, shaved, you’re in a better mood. And somehow, drivers sense it. Or at least, that’s the impression I’ve always had. It’s better to look in shape than disgusted at standing there, half-heartedly thumbing a ride. In short, when I’d start to get fed up with waiting, I’d go into the first café I saw for a coffee. Coming back out, I’d be refreshed, and most of the time, a car would stop within minutes. I’ve often said that when I stood by the side of the road thumbing a ride, I felt a bit like a gambler in front of a slot machine. It was a matter of giving luck a chance. And well, it worked out pretty well.

Then, there are countries where hitchhiking works really well and others where it’s harder. In the 70s-80s, it worked best in Germany and England. In the late afternoon, it wasn’t rare to be invited for tea. Well, that was in England. Tea meant being offered room and board. In Germany, they’d offer you coffee. Once there, they’d first show you the guest room and point out the bathroom before sitting you down in front of a big plate of cold cuts. In the evening, they’d go out in town, and the next morning, they’d usually drop you off at a good spot for hitchhiking. On the other hand, in Mediterranean and Scandinavian countries, you’d better be patient. In Spain or Italy, it’s better to take the train, which was dirt cheap back then. However, if you’re a couple traveling light, it’s already easier in most countries.

In 1982, I went on a trip around Turkey with my girlfriend. We only had two small bags, which was plenty. It was November-December, and we wore our warm, bulky clothes. Leaving Eindhoven at nine in the morning, we arrived in Graz, near the Yugoslav border, at eleven at night. 1300 km in a day! In just four or five vehicles. One to the German border, about fifty kilometers from Eindhoven, the second to Hagen in the Ruhr, the third to Salzburg, and the last to Graz at the Yugoslav border. Record broken. During the night crossing of Yugoslavia, we ran into a trucker close to retirement who lent us the truck’s bunk. So we arrived fresh and rested near Skopje the next morning. We continued to Thessaloniki in northern Greece before taking the train to Istanbul. In Turkey, we traveled a good part of the country by hitchhiking too. With truckers in old, overloaded, slow trucks that climbed hills at fifteen kilometers an hour, but also in cars where five or six people were already crammed in. And every time, we were invited for tea. Once, we were even picked up by a big shot in his Mercedes with a chauffeur. Until then, the average speed was around fifty kilometers an hour. There, we were going two hundred. On a national road, not a nice European highway.

I’ve also hitchhiked in Nepal, from Lumbini, Buddha’s birthplace, to a village on the way to Pokhara. It must have been midday. No bus until the next day. I gave it a try. A small truck overloaded with rice sacks, with two or three young people already perched on top, stopped. I rode on the roof of the cab. At fifty kilometers an hour when it was going well, with a breathtaking view. Coming back from India, I also crossed part of Iran by hitchhiking, from Tehran to the Turkish border. I did this trip with an Austrian I met at the hotel who, like me, had to watch his pennies. We gave it a shot. There was almost no traffic, but to our great surprise, the first car that passed in the area would always stop. They’d just ask for a modest contribution for gas, and it cost next to nothing.

Sometimes, you get scared too. After leaving Turkey in early December 82, we spent about two weeks in the southern Peloponnese harvesting olives. A few days before Christmas, we hitchhiked back to Holland. A girl picked us up in her little Fiat 500. We were driving on a mountain road, and that morning there was a bit of black ice. After crossing a pass, we saw the old Ford Taunus ahead of us at fifty meters start to skid. The driver let out a “heeee!” while grabbing my knees. I reflexively grabbed the wheel. Finally, the Taunus got back on track. And we didn’t swerve. But those few seconds felt very long.

In January 77, while I’d been living in Germany for a few months, I decided to spend a few days in Italy. By hitchhiking, of course. I left in the early afternoon, and by ten at night, I wasn’t far from Frankfurt. I saw a big Mercedes stop. The four or five young people crammed inside were listening to Schlager at full volume. Beer cans littered the floor. They didn’t have a precise destination, and as long as they were going south, that was fine with me. They’d finished their military service that very day and had clearly already celebrated their discharge. The driver was going 160, zigzagging dangerously from one side of the highway to the other. I should have realized he wasn’t entirely sober either. Luckily, there was almost no traffic. Finally, I managed to get dropped off at a gas station just before Frankfurt, relieved. I hope their trip didn’t end tragically.

Another time, coming back from Holland with my wife, we were picked up early in the morning near Senlis by two guys from Lille. They were going to work near Tours and could drop us off at Porte d’Italie. Apparently, they were coworkers but barely knew each other. The driver offered us a beer—at six in the morning, sure!—before opening another can for himself. He was clearly having trouble staying in the right lane. We politely declined, the passenger too. Everyone was tense. Luckily, it was rush hour on the ring road, and we were going slowly. When we got out of the car, the passenger said goodbye with the look of a guy being offered the condemned man’s rum and cigarette.

Finally, there are the annoying remarks from drivers who are either gay when you’re alone or turned on by the sight of your girlfriend when you’re a couple. In those cases, I’d get in the back so the guy wouldn’t feel too confident. And if the conversation got a little too suggestive, we’d deflect until we got dropped off.

And luckily, there are the times, not so rare after all, when you run into really nice people who invite you to eat and sleep at their place and drive you to a good spot the next morning. In Germany and England, that was common. And then there are the big strokes of luck, like during our trip to Turkey when we crossed most of Germany in one car, or that other time when some Germans drove me from the exit of Geneva all the way to the Costa Brava.

Going back to “with everything you read in the papers” and its variant “with everything you see on TV”—and now on the internet—it’s always left me perplexed. Personally, I’ve never heard of hitchhikers assaulting drivers, even if it may have happened. On the other hand, what was most common were hitchhikers being assaulted, especially girls. Anyway, even armed, it seems a bit stupid to assault the driver—wouldn’t that risk causing an accident?

Finally, since that time, I’ve occasionally wanted to hitchhike somewhere far away in France. Most often, too busy with work, it never happened, but the nostalgia hasn’t completely disappeared.

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Other Hitchhikers

And then one day, I... settled down to become a driver myself. Ten years had passed, and you saw fewer and fewer hitchhikers. Or maybe I saw fewer because I had a regular job and wasn’t traveling the same way. And then I understood a few things.

Several times, I was tempted to pick up a hitchhiker, but they didn’t meet the required conditions. They were walking along the road instead of staying at the exit of the previous town. Hard to stop without risking an accident. Or the guy looked really scruffy. Or he was sulking, if not both. Then you think of that famous “with everything you read in the papers.” Not that I was scared, but unfortunately, the few hitchhikers I did pick up later were rarely interesting.

A few years ago, we picked up a young guy at the exit of a small town in Sologne. Not an easy spot for hitchhiking. Bad luck, he was a pretentious little jerk. He was barely 20 or 25 and talked like a bitter old man. He was a waiter in a restaurant. According to him, it was lucky he was there, otherwise the boss would have closed up shop long ago. You’d think he had thirty or forty years of professional experience behind him. As we approached Blois, he started ranting about Arabs, blaming them for all evils. And he laid it on thick. That morning, we were going to a teenager’s funeral who had just committed suicide, so he really got on our nerves, Mr. Know-It-All. Out of anger, I dropped him off next to a shopping center a few kilometers from downtown. Not nice, but it felt good.

Some time ago, we were driving around the Limousin on a Sunday to try out the used Twingo we’d just bought. We picked up a guy in his forties. A German who spoke French well. He started talking about the environment. He was a green Khmer. He got worked up all by himself with his pseudo-eco rant and, after a few kilometers, was almost yelling at us. As we were about to leave the main road for a small one, I dropped him off at a crossroads in the middle of nowhere. Normally, I would have made a little detour to take him to a better spot, but this time, I didn’t feel like doing the... eco-warrior a favor.

On the other hand, I’ve still done my good deed a few times. One June morning, coming back from Orléans, I saw a man in his sixties hitchhiking. The poor guy had had a rough time. He was from Montpellier and was coming back from Caen, where he’d been promised a job. Once there, they bluntly told him the position was already taken, and he had to go back. Except he didn’t have enough money left for the train. He’d spent the night hitchhiking without success. I could only take him as far as Lamotte-Beuvron, where I dropped him off near the fire station. Apparently, there was some vague shelter there or something, but it only opened a few hours later. In the meantime, he settled on the grass in a corner to sleep a little. While he was doing that, I quickly went to the train station to check the price of a ticket to Montpellier. It was within my means. Since he was sound asleep, I slipped the train ticket and 100 francs into his pocket. I couldn’t imagine him continuing to hitchhike all the way to Montpellier. And I bet he didn’t even have a piece of cardboard and a marker!

When we go to Brazil, we usually rent a small car. One day, we were coming back from Paracuru to Fortaleza when we saw a whole family hitchhiking. Two adults and two or three small children. Here near the equator, the sun sets very quickly, and it would soon be night. There was little traffic, and trucks wouldn’t stop because there was no room in the cab. As for the rich people driving big 4x4s, they wouldn’t stoop to picking up the lower classes. The only hope for this kind of family was usually a farmer or artisan who’d let them ride in the back of his pickup. Obviously, they were a bit surprised to see us. Everyone crammed in as best they could in the back of our little car. When we dropped them off, we got a whole string of “Deus lhes abençõe”—God bless you.

Still in Brazil, we were on the road from Barreirinhas to São Luís do Maranhão. About 150 km of deserted road with an isolated mud house here and there. A young woman flagged us down. She was very pregnant and had to get to the clinic twenty or thirty kilometers away to give birth. Someone was supposed to drive her, but the first signs of labor started earlier than expected, and the driver was unavailable. Even driving fast, we weren’t feeling great: it would be just our luck if she gave birth in the car!

Today, we’re in the age of smartphones and carpooling apps. Safety. With everything you see on TV... Three or four years ago, we signed up on a platform. Our first, and only, “client” was a little jerk who didn’t say a word the whole trip. No hello, no goodbye, and certainly no thank you. The next day, we found his Ray-Bans in the car. We didn’t run after him to give them back. Ha!

Good evening,

Our family trip (2 kids, boys aged 6 and 9) is coming up fast, and I have a few questions. I’ve seen that quite a few people on this forum are active about Thailand, so I hope you can help me out :-)

- I have a Free mobile plan with a good amount of data abroad (35GB). Do you know if the Bolt or Grab apps work well with a French SIM? I’ve read that the app might not work if the SIM isn’t Thai, but I’ve also seen French travelers using their SIMs in Thailand, so I’m not sure what to think.

- What tips do you have to avoid traveler’s diarrhea (especially for our 6- and 9-year-olds)? I’m already preparing them to wash their hands often and not put their hands in their mouths or brush their teeth with tap water (they’re still little and might not control the water well in their mouths). Are there certain dishes or food stands to avoid? Are ice cubes really off-limits too?

- We arrive in Bangkok at 9 AM, and we have a French-speaking guided tour scheduled for the next morning (all day). The itinerary isn’t finalized yet with the guide—I need to get back in touch soon. What do you recommend doing on that first day, which might be tiring after the long flight and jet lag? Our hotel has a nice pool, but I’d love for us to get out and explore a bit :-)

- Is the Grand Palace really best visited early in the morning to avoid crowds?

- I’d love to visit a night or floating market, but they’re all on weekends. Unfortunately, we’re in Bangkok from Wednesday to Saturday morning (then we take the train to Ayutthaya in the morning). Is there a market on Friday night? I saw Chatuchak, but Friday night doesn’t seem like the best time—is it still worth going?

I’ve looked for answers to these questions, but I’m either not finding a definitive answer or I’m overwhelmed by all the things to do/see in Bangkok. So, I’m hoping your advice or experiences can help me out!

Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! :-)

Hi there!

I think the question’s in the title...

What price can I expect to pay in 2025 for a ride of about two kilometers in the tourist center?

Thanks😉

Bonjour, J'ai presque honte de decrire à quel point nous nous sommes fait arnaquer en transfert Bus de Bangkok à Siam reap. Je fais cette publication car nous avons été une trentaine de personnes à subir cette arnaque. Nous avons pris un bus par l'intermédiaire de sriram. Jusqu'à la frontiere ok. Puis avant la frontiere le bus a tourné et s'est arrété devant un restaurant. on nous a fait descendre et 3 personnes (dont à priori le responsable du restaurant) nous ont fait asseoir par petits groupes. ils nous ont expliqué qu'ils allaient s'occuper de nos visas (tarif 1500 baths par personne). J 'ai protesté, on m'a repondu que si je n'étais pas content, je partais à pied; 3/4 d'heures plus tard, nous avions nos visas. Nous sommes ensuite partis vers la frontiere (à pied), l'équipe de 3 personnes nous a arreté pres d'une banque. Un des 3 nous a longuement expliqué quau cambodge (contrairement à ce que disent les guides), il fallait utiliser le Riel et non le Dollar. il nous a donc indiqué qu'il fallai changer immédiatement nos Euros ou nos Dollards en Baths, car d'après lui, il n'y avait pas de frais de change entre les Baths et les Riel. Etonnement, nous avons tous fait ce qu'il nous preconisait. Ils nous ont ensuite guidé pour passer les frontieres, et sont repartis avec nous dans le bus. quelques kilometres plus loin, le bus s'est arreté devant un supposé bureau de change et les "guides" ont accompagné chacun d'entre nous en nous incitant à changer nos Baths en Riel à un taux complètement fou de 100 Riels pour 1 Bath. Quand j'ai demandé à la dame derriere le guichet, quel était le taux, elle a refusé de répondre et m'a indiqué le "guide". Les guides nous pressaient et nous disaient qu'il n'y avait pas besoin de justificatif; Tout le monde est remonté dans le bus. Nous nous sommes nous même fait escroqué de 120€.

Pour terminer, à l'arriver à Siam Reap, (de nuit) une personne monte dans le bus et remet à chacun un badge en disant que le tuk qui nous emmene en centre ville est gratuit. Lorsque nous sommes installé, on nous explique que ce tuk nous mènera le lendemain à Angkor. Nous refusons et là on nous dit que dans ce cas, le tuk est payant (20000 Riels par personne). Nous négocions 20000 Riel pour le tuk. Nous apprenons à l hotel que le prix normal est de 10000.

Bienvenue au Cambodge......

Pour info, nous sommes des voyageurs chevronnés (au moins un voyage par an de 2 à 3 mois) plus de 10 fois l'Asie. Nous ne nous etions jamais fait arnaquer.

Bonjour :)

Cette année nous resterons en tout une semaine à Bangkok. Si certains détestent, nous on adore cette ville étonnante. Mais après 3 courts séjours, nous avons vu pas mal de choses (dans les plus connues). Alors cette année, nous aimerions voir le musée des barges royales et faire un tour dans les klongs. En dehors de ça, on cherche des idées sympa... On avait vu un temple kitch au possible dans un reportage sur les klongs, avec un bouddha au sous sol dans lequel il fallait jeter un pièce (dans le nombril!) mais impossible de trouver le nom de ce temple ni son emplacement...

Nous ne sommes pas difficiles, curieux de tout. On se déplace en bus, ou taxi, on marche beaucoup.

Alors, on en vient à notre question de départ, quel est votre endroit préféré à Bangkok? (Endroit précis, quartier...)

Merci d'avance pour toutes vos idées!!!

Bonjour à tous,

en fin d'année, nous partirons pour 3 semaines en voyage avec notre bébé qui aura presque 2 ans. N'ayant jamais voyagé avec elle, et ayant l'habitude de voyager en sac à dos à la cool qui plus est, nous nous posons pas mal de questions... Peut-être que des parents bienveillants pourraient nous partager leur expérience ?

Nous nous demandons comment cela se passe si nous sommes obligés de prendre un taxi? il n'y a pas de siège auto pour les petits, j'imagine?

Dans les guesthouse ou hôtels, est-ce qu'il est possible de demander un lit pour bébé (et est-ce payant?) ou dormez-vous avec votre petit directement dans le lit?

Nous ne comptons pas nous encombrer d'une poussette pour le voyage, nous aurons un porte bébé pour les moments où elle ne pourra pas marcher seule, mais avez-vous déjà vu ou entendu s'il est possible de louer une poussette pour quelques jours (quand nous serons sur un endroit fixe)?

est-ce qu'on trouve des petits pots pour bébé dans les 7/11 ou ailleurs?

Et, profitons de votre expérience, si vous avez des astuces ou des petits conseils qui vous ont été utiles, nous sommes preneurs :)

merci d'avance à ceux qui prendront le temps de nous lire!

Laëtitia

Bonjour, Nous sommes 5 séniors, de 65 ans d'âge moyen, qui allons sillonner pendant 1 mois la Thaïlande en janvier/février 2019, en commençant par Bangkok pour une période de 4 jours. Nous souhaiterions bénéficier de vos conseils pour choisir notre quartier de résidence et, si possible, l'établissement adapté à nos goûts qui s'y trouve. Nous souhaiterions un quartier calme, loin des bars et autres sonos bruyantes, tout en n'étant pas trop éloigné des principaux lieux à visiter. Pour l'hébergement lui-même, nous préférons des établissements à taille humaine du type guest house ou petits hôtels familiaux, pas luxueux mais propres, calmes avec de bonnes literies et, si possible, eau chaude et clim, le tout pour un prix raisonnable car nous sommes des retraités pas très argentés (maxi 25 à 30 € par personne et par jour) Nous aurions besoin de 2 chambres avec donc une triple et une double. Si les prix sont raisonnables, nous pourrions également louer 3 chambres s'il n'y a pas de triple possible. Je vous remercie par avance du temps que vous allez nous consacrer et des bons conseils que vous allez nos donner. Franck

Bonjour,

C'est ici qu'on discute ....

Boukhara en Ouzbékistan : Nasreddin Khodja

We’re excited to share our sixth travel journal with photos from Southeast Asia, this one entirely dedicated to Thailand. As a reminder, our previous travel journals can be accessed directly by clicking on the username "jojoone1" to the left of each post.

For a change, let’s start with the conclusion: our trip left us with an excellent memory. Very often, everything went like clockwork—short wait times, quick problem-solving, and the curious feeling of being pampered. Sometimes, life isn’t so cruel after all.

It’s only fair to admit that day after day, we encountered Thais who were smiling, helpful, kind, funny, and sometimes even touching. There were a few exceptions, but they were just the trees hiding the (tropical) forest. After this year’s experience, we won’t be the ones to tell you that Thailand isn’t the Land of Smiles or that laughter is just for business. We’ve witnessed so many kind behaviors and gestures that we no longer understand how anyone could complain about the people here—except for bad experiences in ultra-touristy spots packed with travelers lacking any finesse. It got to the point where it made us reflect. And we concluded that we probably have funny, friendly faces (?). We also know we’re the first to smile at them, and every day there, we show respect to everyone we meet. In any case, we have fond thoughts for many of the people we crossed paths with. Thanks to them, our trip took on a whole new human dimension.

A quick note about the photos: last year, the VoyageForum team made a change to how photos are uploaded. This gives us the choice between displaying high-definition photos (but losing ownership rights) or non-HD photos (less sharp, but the originals won’t be spread online without compensation or credit). We opted for the second solution, if only as a matter of principle. It does leave us with some regrets, especially since Françoise switched to the Canon EOS 7D Mark II, whose performance is notably better than the 7D.

Our first trip with Emirates was satisfying but left a mixed impression. Sure, it was the first time all four of our flights were on an Airbus A380. The crews were super friendly, and the meal trays were the best on the first two flights. On the return flights, the meals weren’t great and weren’t filling enough. Overall, the crews seemed disorganized and rushed—clearly some new recruits. The Doha-Paris flight, if memory serves, was on an A380-600, and in that configuration, we were packed in like it hadn’t been in years. In conclusion, it’s hard to say at this stage whether Qatar or Emirates comes out on top.

From our perspective, the journey from northern Thailand to Bangkok can be done via two different routes. This year, we took one of them, which allowed us to alternate between well-known destinations and original visits. Note that some of this year’s visits include cities we’ve already been to. So for a more complete view (Bangkok and Chiang Mai, for example), you’ll need to check out our previous travel journals.

We’ve improved our Thai vocabulary with a few more words and hope next year to move from kindergarten to first grade... For those reading us for the first time, we can only advise against visiting this country on an organized tour or looking for a French-speaking guide. The Thais have organized themselves well—they now have proven tourism practices. Maybe a guidebook for culture, a few basic English words, and a little organization are all you need for a great trip.

CHIANG MAI

Chiang Mai and its region are packed with treasures—so much so that one or two visits might not be enough.

At the airport, you go to a counter that provides a taxi ticket. The fare is 150 baht for a regular car and 200 baht for a larger vehicle. When our turn came, a large vehicle showed up, but we were only charged 150 baht. Okay, fine.

The hotels we’d selected three years ago had significantly increased their rates, so we had to find a new base. In the city center, hotels with large pools are overpriced, and despite the wide selection, it was hard to decide. We ended up at a hotel near the airport, the Baan U Sabai Boutique House. The superior room with a balcony can be negotiated for just under 40 €. It’s a beautiful, fairly new complex in traditional teak style, with very well-kept rooms and a long pool. Given the rather stormy weather in early July, it was the first time in Thailand we swam in cool water. It encouraged us to swim rather than just lounge...



At the end of the hotel street, you come out onto a busy main road where you can hail a songthaew (a kind of shared taxi). It’s easy to be offered a ride to the city center for 2 x 20 baht, but getting a return trip for less than 2 x 40 baht is tough, especially in the evening. Our red songthaew took us straight to Chiang Mai Gate, one of the city’s gates, located southeast of the historic square. We then took Phra Pok Khlao Road for a few dozen meters and chose the first little restaurant that looked nice. Within minutes, we had our dishes and smoothies for a total of 235 baht. Great quality, despite the place looking very touristy. The owner set the tone by handing out smiles left and right.

There’s an amazing spot in Chiang Mai to grab a coffee: Baan Phor Liang Meun. Once you reach Chiang Mai Gate, take Phra Pok Khlao Road for a few meters, then turn onto soi 2 (alley 2). It’s actually the first on the left. After a few dozen meters, you’ll find yourself walking alongside what looks like a Khmer temple.



When you enter, you’re in a vast space—like a temple-garden—where you can eat a small dish or sip a good café crème as if you were in Angkor. The tables are far apart, so you’re as close to birds and squirrels as you are to other customers.



In the small building where the staff works, they provide high-quality mosquito repellent for free—something we’ll now buy regularly at 7/11. They’re small plastic bottles, mostly pink or orange, with Thai writing and "floral fragrance" in English. The scent is actually pleasant. Remember to shake the bottle before opening and pressing, or you’ll end up with cream all over your shorts...

The creator of this space has been sculpting terracotta works since the early 1980s using clay from the Lamphun region—the most consistent clay found in all of Thailand. This café is like visiting an ancient temple, with its abundance of statues, high-reliefs, and bas-reliefs. It’s undeniably a romantic spot for couples—a haven of calm in a very lively city.

Bonjour à toutes et à tous !

Prochaine destination : la Thailande ! Voilà plusieurs années que je veux y partir et que je repousse mais là cette année est la bonne ! les billets ne sont pas encore achetés mais a priori 2 semaine les deux dernière semaines du mois de novembre de cette année !

J'ai parcouru des dizaines de blog vu des tonnes de reportages mais les informations sont tellement nombreuses et les avis divergents parfois ! J'aimerais alors des informations et des conseils pour un potentiel itinéraire. Je pars avec une copine en mode sac à dos sans recherche de grand luxe mais on souhaite éviter les pièges et les gros sites remplis de touristes mais si cela sera surement inévitable.

Dans une première idée et dans l'idéal nous aimerions voir Bangkok puis le nord (chiang mai) et la réserve des éléphants et éventuellement les singes mais j'aimerais savoir si ce sont des sites qui préservent les animaux car c'est très important pour nous !

Pensez vous possible de voir également Khao sok et de s’arrêter à la fin de notre séjour sur une île pour se poser quelques jours au calme (oui mais laquelle ?!)

Je n'ai pas encore d'idée précise de l'ordre et de la faisabilité d'un tel programme car les déplacements entre chaque lieux sont peut être longs !

Que pensez vous de :

- Bangkok 2-3 jours (début ou fin de séjour?) - rejoindre Chiang mai par avion 3-5 jours - puis descendre a Phuket en avion pour rejoindre Khao sok en bus et y rester 2 jours

et s'arrêter sur une île dans le coin 4 jours ou deux îles 2 fois deux jours

pour repartir a Bangkok en avion ?

Si vous avez d'autres lieux à nous conseiller ou même à nous déconseiller ou un autre itinéraire vous êtes les bienvenues :)

Je sais que deux semaines ça fait court pour visiter la Thailande alors nous préférons nous limiter dans ce que nous verrons et ne pas courir et y retourner une autre fois :)

Merci à vous :)

Bonsoir à tous,

Nous partons au mois d'août en Thaïlande et avant notre retour en France, nous resterons 2 jours à BKK (oui je sais c'est peu). Voici donc les endroits que j'aimerai voir mais j'ai du mal à les répartir... : - le Grand Palais - Wat Po - Wat Arun - Golden Mount - les klongs - Chinatown - la maison de Jim Thomson - Tour Baiyoke

En sachant que : - mon mari n'est pas fana de visite de ville (mais je lui ai dit "t'as pas le choix" 😛) - mon fils aîné traîne les pieds dans les visites - nous serons avec notre fille de 2 ans et je ne sais pas si on utilisera la poussette (déjà testé en 2010 avec mon fils à l'époque et galère galère) ou le porte bébé dorsal (mais il faut la porter hein 🤪) ; on emmène les 2 de toute façon - nous ne voulons pas faire de shopping (donc exit les centres commerciaux)

Donc j'avais pensé : J1 --> le Grand Palais, Wat Po, Wat Arun, Wat Saket, les klongs (ce n'est pas dans l'ordre) J2 --> Chinatown, la maison de Jim Thomson, Tour Baiyoke

Je trouve le J1 un peu chargé surtout que le Wat Saket est éloigné des autres et je sais aussi que le Grand Palais nécessite du temps, mais ça m'étonnerait qu'on y reste 2h...

Nous allons arriver à Bangkok de l'aéroport de Don Muang par la gare de Hua Lamphong, située "en gros" à mi-chemin entre les 2 jours de visite. Je pensais donc prendre un hôtel aux environs de la gare.

Merci pour vos avis éclairés

Bonjour à tous,

Je viens de réserver les billets d'avions pour la Thaïlande. Départ le 10 Février et retour le 5 Mars, soit 22 jours (arrivé le samedi 11 janvier et départ le dimanche 5 mars).

Je suis en train de planifier ce voyage et j'aurais besoin de vos conseils et avis.

Voici une ébauche du voyage: - Visite de Bangkok - Visite d'Ayutthaya - Visite de Sukhothai - Visite de Chiang Mai - Visite des iles du Sud (Est ou Ouest, en fonction de la météo je pense)

Les choses que j'aimerais intégré dans les destinations: - Kanchanaburi - Phetchaburi - Chiang Rai (wat rong khun)

PS: pas d'attrape touriste ou tourisme de masse style Phuket

Globalement, j'ai le guide Lonely Planet et les forums pour m'aider avec les activités et visites. Le plus compliquer, c'est de savoir combien de temps rester à chaque endroit et où dormir, ainsi que les transports.

Ici se trouve le fil de discussion pour le concours photo de décembre 2016 ayant pour thème : "Complicité"

C'est bien l'endroit pour échanger, partager, délirer, débattre (mais pas se battre!).... Avec, on l'espère, d'autres belles découvertes en images en marge du concours...

Pour poster vos photos dans le cadre du concours, c'est sur l'autre page : ici

Sawadee krap Question a la con me diront certains, mais est il possible de changer les baths qu il me reste en euros a bangkok Je pose cette question car lors de mon dernier voyage au nepal personne ne voulait me changer mes roupies contre des euros Kop kun krap par avance

Bonjour à vous tous !!!

Comme à chaque nouveau voyage, on ouvre une nouvelle rubrique, pour avoir un maximum d'information :) Cette fois ci direction la Thaïlande pour 12 jours sur place et en famille :) pour la période de début décembre, le voyage va se scinder en deux parties 4 jours sur Bangkok et le reste dans le sud, peut être Phuket, dans un premier temps que nous conseillez vous de faire sur Bangkok on aime l'authentique, les marchés, les restaurants bon marchés et locales, les temples, découvrir des quartiers et surtout chose importante on aime flâner prendre le temps d'apprécier et pouvoir s'imprégner des lieux. D'après vous est ce qu'il faut réserver à l'avance les logements pour cette période et dans quel quartier séjourner sur Bangkok, pour le vol interne quelle compagnie choisir? merci d'avance pour vos réponses.

on aimerait partir au mois d'août à Bangkok et j'aimerai savoir si on ne va pas se retrouver sous l'eau et s'il y a des choses à faire autour de Bangkok ? sachant que nous serons logés sur place.

Bonjour,

Voilà mes billets pour la Thaïlande sont enfin réservés (avec Air France). Nous sommes un jeune couple (24 ans) et partons pour la première fois en grand voyage comme ça, donc un peu stressés mais je pense que ça ira :) Nous partons de Toulouse le samedi 11 juillet 2015 à 9h55 et arrivons à Bangkok le dimanche 12 juillet à 6h20. Nous repartons de Bangkok le dimanche 2 août 2015 à 9h50 et arrivons à Toulouse le même jour à 19h35.

Nous avons donc 3 semaines pour découvrir la Thaïlande ! Comme c’est notre premier grand voyage, on a pas mal de questions, même si j’ai déjà pu trouver beaucoup de réponses sur le forum. On souhaite partir en mode sac à dos, c’est-à-dire ne pas faire de réservation afin d’être plus libre (sauf la première nuit à Bangkok), et choisir au moment venu où dormir. Nous ne sommes pas du tout fêtard, on voudrait surtout être dépaysé, découvrir une nouvelle culture, échanger avec les habitants, paysages, nature, temples…

Je vais vous donner l’itinéraire (image jointe) auquel j’ai réfléchi et les questions apparaîtront au fur-et-à-mesure :)

Jour 1 : arrivée à Bangkok à 6h20. Visite de principaux sites. Dormir dans une guesthouse réservée à l’avance sur internet (proche Koh San Road ??)

Jour 2 : aller de Bangkok à Sukhotai, en passant par Ayuthaya, Lopburi. Bangkok-Ayuthaya : bus, train ?? (le plus rapide) Ayuthaya-Sukhotai : il faut passer par Phitsanulok puis prendre un bus pour Sukhotai. Dormir à Sukhotai pour visiter le lendemain.

Est-ce possible de faire tout ça en une journée, ou est-il préférable de dormir vers Ayuthaya, Lopburi (ou plus beau coin en allant vers Sukho) ??

Jour 3 : Visiter Sukhotai le matin, puis repartir vers Chiang Mai (en repassant par Phitsanulok du coup…). Visiter un peu Chiang Mai, puis trouver où dormir proche des trucs à voir.

Jours 4 à 9 (6 jours) : Passer quelques jours à Chiang Mai, cuisine, balades-treks, louer scooter pour se balader (où ??), autres activités ?? Partir 2 jours dans une région proche de Chiang Mai ??

Jours 10 : De Chiang Mai, prendre un avion vers Bangkok (j’ai vu avec Thai Airways des allers à 35€ par personne). Puis de Bangkok, aller vers Koh Phangan/Koh Tao (pas d’ordre défini, mais à choisir en fonction du transport pour le retour).

Jours 11 à 17 (7 jours) : 4-5 jours Koh Phangan et 2-3 jours sur Koh Tao, balades, scooter, visite de l’île, repos, belles plages avec eau transparente. J’aimerai faire 2 logements différents sur Koh Phangan (pour varier le type de guesthouse et la zone : un logement sur le bord de la plage, en accès direct et un autre pas forcément en bord de plage).

Jour 18 : retour vers Bangkok, depuis Koh Phangan ou Koh Tao. Dormir à Bangkok.

Jours 19 à 22 (4 jours) : Visite de Bangkok, shopping.

Jour 23 : Retour vers Toulouse à 9h50 du matin.

J’hésite à mettre 1,2 jours de plus à Bangkok au début, pour les enlever à la fin, mais c’est aussi rassurant d’arriver à Bangkok quelques jours avec l’avion de retour…

Pour les guesthouses, j’ai beaucoup lu qu’il était inutile de réserver à l’avance. C’est vrai partout ? Sur Koh Phangan, Koh Tao, ne vaut-il pas mieux réserver pour avoir un bon truc ? Le problème c’est que s’il y a un problème de transport, ça risque de décaler d’un jour ou deux sur le moment…

Si vous avez des bonnes adresses de guesthouses à me conseiller, qui sont sur mon itinéraire, je prends aussi :D

Pour les transports, où prendre les tickets de bus, train ? Faut-il réserver à l’avance ?

Enfin, j’hésite à nous acheter le guide Lonely Planet. Ils ont sorti une nouvelle édition en octobre 2014. Sera-t-il vraiment utile…certains l’ont-ils ?

Si vous avez eu le courage de lire jusqu’ici, merci beaucoup :) J’espère que vous pourrez répondre à mes questions !

Benjamin.