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Sécurité à Los Angeles? English translation pending
by Shibuyo · 2006-02-26 · 9 replies
Bonjour a tous,

Je vais aller a Los Angeles en Mars pour une semaine et aimant les centres ville et les buildings, j'ai réservé une chambre dans downtown.

Il s'agit du :

The Historic Mayfair Hotel Los Angeles 1256 West 7th Street Los Angeles, CA 90017

Est il possible de se promener tranquillement autours de l'hotel le soir pour diner ou visiter les environs ? J'ai entendu parlé du Mac Arthur park qui etait craignos qui n'est pas tres loin. Tant qu'on ne rentre pas dans le park, ca va ?

Apres quelques recherches il s'avère que le quartier n'est pas tres sur. J'ai l'intention d'aller voir un match des Clippers au Staples Center qui est environ à 2-3 km à pied. Est-ce vraiment dangeureux d'y alle et revenir à pied pendant la nuit ?

Une derniere question : la nuit tombre à quelle heure à LA ?

Merci d'avance pour votre aide !
Ile de Margarita: climat en janvier, sécurité et plage English translation pending
by Sylviesoleil · 2005-10-28 · 18 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Je projette un voyage à l'ile de Margarita en janvier prochain et j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un y est déjà allé à cette période. Comment est la température ? De quoi ont l'air les plages à Porlamar ? Est-ce assez sécuritaire pour une femme seule (un peu comme à Cuba) ? Quelqu'un d'entre vous y va aussi à ce moment de l'année ?

Merci de vos réponses.
Conseils Equateur, Bolivie, Argentine, Chili, Paraguay, Uruguay English translation pending
by Bouyaka · 2005-09-26 · 27 replies
Bonjour, j'envisage un voyage d'environ 3 mois dès Janvier prochain en amerique du sud. Je parle espagnol (disons que je me débrouille pas mal). En fait les pays suivants (dans le titre) m'attirent mais il s'agit plus d'à priori car je ne les connais pas vraiment si ce n'est par des récits. Et je sais tres bien qu'en 3 mois je ne pourrais pas les visiter tous, d'autant plus que je prends mon temps pour voyager. J'ai déjà pas mal voyagé notamment en Asie (centrale, Est et Sud Est) et en AS en Colombie et au Pérou. Alors voila, ça me rendrait un grand service si vous pouviez me conseiller, cad me donner un avant goût de ce que je peux trouver dans ces pays là, peut être même des idée d'itinéraires, etc... Tout ce qui vient en tête. Merci beaucoup et.... à charge de revanche. 😉
Voyage dans le nord du Pérou English translation pending
by Josephcha · 2005-07-20 · 20 replies
Bonjour

Je pars en aout faire un voyage de 5 semaines dont deux seront consacrée au Nord et l'Amazonie. Je me doute que cela constitue peu de tps pr un tel projet mais c'est malheureusement tt ce que j'ai.

En gros, j'aimerai profiter en priorité de Chachapoyas (Kuelap et le trek de la lagune des momies ou de los condores), las Lagunas avec Pacay Samiria ainsi qu'Iquitos (sejour dans un lodge pdt 3 jours).

J'ai ainsi plusieurs questions:

1) ce parcours est il faisable en 15 jours sachant que je dois faire Lima - Iquitos - Lima? (je prendrai l'avion s'il le faut) 2) est il possible de joindre Yurimaguas directement de Chachapoyas? Je n'ai pas l'impression que ce soit mentionné dans les guides. Combien de tps faut il ds ce cas? 3) J'ai l'intention d'aller jusqu'Iquitos en prenant le bateau en passant par Pacay Samiria. Le bateau s'arrete t il forcement ou faut il le reserver avant à las Lagunas? 4) Pensez vous que ca vaille le coup de prendre les lodges. Que faire dans ce cas à Iquitos?

Dans mon itinéraire, j'ai conscience de passer à coté de Chiclayo et Trujillo. Est preferable de ne pas aller jusqu'Iquitos pour voir ces villes?

Je suis ouvert toute proposition

Merci d'avance

Josephcha
Argentine: Vacances scolaires du 09 au 24 juillet English translation pending
by Herge · 2005-05-11 · 19 replies
Bonjour a tous,

Voici les dates scolaires des vacances d'hiver en Argentine : du samedi 09 juillet au dimanche 24 juillet . ( 20 provinces sur les 24 d Argentine ). Les 4 dernieres provinces : Neuquén, Santiago del Estero, Misiones et Tierra del Fuego ont choisi du 16 au 31 juillet.

Ce qui signifie : Beaucoup de monde dans les bus et avions ( vols au depart de Bsas meme sur l Europe ), pour les vendredis 08 juillet, samedi 09 juillet...et aussi pour les vendredi 22, samedi 23 et dimanche 24 juillet. Et a faible mesure pour le week end du 16/17 juillet.

Pour ce qui est de ces deux semaines, les hotels seront aussi bien pleins, surtout dans le nord ( au nord de la ligne Bsas - Santiago de Chile )...normal ils vont chercher un peu de soleil ( aussi vers l Uruguay et le sud du Bresil ) .

A bientot !

Herge !
1 mois au Chili du Nord au Sud English translation pending
by Niine · 2005-04-27 · 24 replies
Bonjour,

Je vais partir au Chili au mois de novembre. J'ai l'intention de faire le Nord et le Sud, et ma premiere question est la suivante : faut-il atterrir a Santiago et aller au Nord, puis au Sud et retour a Santiago pour repartir ? ou y a-t-il moyen d'atterrir qq part dans le Nord, hors Chili si necessaire, puis de descendre au fur et mesure puis de repartir de qq part dans le Sud ? Je pense passer 4 jours dans le centre, 8/9 jours dans le Nord et le reste dans le Sud. Que pensez-vous de la repartition ?

Merci et a +

nine
Uruguay et Paraguay pour plusieurs mois English translation pending
by Foineleti · 2005-03-31 · 21 replies
bonjour

je me rends au paraguay et uruguay des octobre et ce pour un voyage de plusieurs mois .

si vous avez des coins chers, des sites a ne pas rates....je veux bien quelques infos, en sachant que je fuis les grosses villes touristiques et les hotels a touristes, j aurai aussi ma tente.

merci

leti
Voyage au Pérou et Bolivie English translation pending
by Lomalo · 2005-02-23 · 51 replies
Je souhaiterais partir avec mon ami mi juillet pour un mois au Pérou et en Bolivie. Nous pensions attérir à Lima et visiter Paracas, Nazca, Cuzco, faire le chemin de l'Inca, Puno, Lac Titicaca, La Paz, Salar Uyuni, Potosi, Sucre et prendre à La Paz un avion pour Lima pour rentrer. Pensez-vous que c'est possible ou que le programme est trop chargé pour un mois ?

Tous vos conseils sont les bienvenus.

A bientôt
Nicaragua: vaccins, sécurité, budget journalier, climat et téléphone English translation pending
by Hft0 · 2005-01-18 · 30 replies
Bonjour,

tout d'abord je vous demande d'être indulgent avec moi mais je reconnais que je n'ai parcouru cette partie du forum. Mais j'ai une raison valable...😉 Jusque maintenant je lisais la partie "Amérique du Sud" en vue d'un voyage au Pérou et Bolivie (qui ne tombe pas à l'eau d'ailleurs!). Mais hier mon téléphone sonne... c'est mon pote JC qui me propose un séjour de 3 semaines au Nicaragua fin mars ... mais je dois vite me décider car on prends les billets bientôt...

Mais j'ai des craintes, des questions, ... pour lesquelles j'ai besoin de réponses rapidement car visiblement les billets seront réservés lundi dans 1 semaine...😕

Bon... Le parcours: je les suis... ils ont déjà fait du Mexique à Buenos aires en solitaire en 15 mois... je leur fait confiance...😛

Par contre....:

* les vaccins? que faut-il absolument? Mis a part Tétanos et dyphtérie (je fais le rappel de ces jours-ci) je n'ai rien...

* Mis à part la capitale un peu craignos dans certains coins...( nous ne faisons qu'y atterir... et puis bye), les campagnes sont dangereuses? vous savez tout ce qu'on lit?

* y a vraiment des coins a pas faire?

* 10 € / jour sur place c'est suffisant?

* la nuit il fait froid?

* un GSM pour envoyer un sms de tps à autres à madame qui reste en Belgique c'est possible? (me fou du prix!) ou sert vraiment à rien car pas de réseau???

* Je ne vous cache pas que j'ai toujours voulu faire partie de ce genre de voyage sac à dos... mais que là que ça part tout d'un coup j'ai un peu de craintes, peur d'aller vers l'inconnu... 😊 surtout que si je fais MON voyage, je l'organise à ma manière... là je dois faire confiance... mais bon, d'un autre côté nous serons 6 (2 déjà sur place!) et celui qui m'invite est mon meilleur pote que je connais depuis 20 ans et qui en est toujours revenu...😛
Traversée de l'Amérique centrale English translation pending
by Coccs · 2004-09-19 · 42 replies
coucoux, je pars pour l'amérique centrale début mars pour une durée indéterminée (petite idée 4 ou 6 mois) permettant de vivre le yucatan, le belize, le guatemala, l'honduras, le nicaragua et le panama. Je commence tout doucement à vagabonder sur les autres discussions en prenant des notes, mais je me permet d'ouvrir une discussion supplémentaire pour demander (à nouveau et comme tant d'autres) les petits trucs que vous pourriez me donner: par où vaut-il mieux commencer et continuer, une compagnie d'avion moins chère ou en promo, et les petits coins, ou bien les gens un peu plus isolés qui feront "un voyage autrement". Je suis aussi plongeuse, alors si vous avez un petit site, ou un moniteur qui travaille pas trop à la chaîne... je suis preneuse de tout renseignement!!! 🙂 Merki beaucoup

Sud Pérou et Bolivie English translation pending
by Pt3tn2nf1nt · 2004-09-06 · 25 replies
Je reviens tout juste de 5 semaines au Pérou et en Bolivie, donc si certains d'entre vous cherchent quelques informations...

J'ai fait Lima-

Pisco, les iles Ballestas et la Réserve de Paracas-

Ica et la lagune de Huacachina et le buggy et le sandboard dans le désert-

Nazca et les lignes-

Arequipa et le Canyon de Colca plus l'ascension du Misti-

Copacabana et l'ile du Soleil-

La Paz-

Uyuni, le Salar d'Uyuni et le Sud Lipez-

La Paz-

Coroico et la route la plus dangereuse du monde-

La Paz-

Cuzco et Aguas Calientes, Machu Picchu-

Lima...

Comme vous pouvez le constater, j'ai bien profiter de mon voyage en découvrant beaucoup de choses. J'ai toujours dormi et manger pour le moins cher, comme pour les transports...

Si vous avez des questions, n'hésitez pas, ce site m'a beaucoup aidé avant mon périple, alors si je peux renvoyer l'ascenseur maintenant...😉

Vivement le prochain départ maintenant, mais pas évident de trouver une association pour faire du volontariat, surtout pour un prof de sport...🤪
Votre avis sur des options de visites au Chili et en Argentine English translation pending
by Paulot8 · 2004-08-03 · 10 replies
Bonjour,

Me rendant au Chili / Argentine au mois d’octobre, j’aurais besoin de vos points de vue et expérience :

1) Je dois éliminer une de ces 3 options par manque de temps : Trekking à Torres del Paine . Visite au Parc national des glaciers (El Calafate) . Trekking à El Chalten (Fitz Roy) . Laquelle selon vous ? 2) J’envisage de faire une " virée " dans le Nord vers le Parc Lauca, Putre, Parinacota, la réserve de Vicuñas . Le transport en commun est-il aisé (fréquence, réseau, …) ou est-il préférable de passer par une agence ou alors de louer carrément une voiture sur place ?

Vos opinions et expériences sur ce sujet me seront très utiles .

Merci d’avance pour vos réponses .😎
Questions sur notre itinéraire au Pérou English translation pending
by Cyriljj · 2004-02-25 · 33 replies
bonjour,

quelques question en vrac qui traverse l'espris de ma copine(christine)...

"- SI on fait Lima - Pucallpa en bus puis bateau jusqu'à Iquitos (descente du fleuve) Pas de liaison Iquitos -> Cuzco ? on doit obligatoirement passer par Lima ? Peut-on alors le faire en une journée ? Doit-on réserver les vol avant ou bien à notre arrivée à Iquitos çà suffit ? SI on fait Lima - Iquitos en avion puis bateau jusqu'à Pucallpa (remontée du fleuve) Pour rejoindre Cuzco de Pucallpa : est-ce qu'il est vraiment déconseillé de prendre le bus (je parle effectivement de la partie Huancayo -Ayacucho) et doit-on donc passer par Lima également...

=> quel itinéraire est le mieux ? .... le moins long est le 1er ? Randonnées à Cuzco : Machu picchu, Choquequirau Peut-on vraiment avoir qch sur mesure suivant difficulté et durée du treck ou nous propose-t-on que qq parcours standard ? Puno : Quel sont les lieux de ballades autour de Puno à part les iles ? Arequipa : Quel sont les lieux de ballades autour d'Arequipa à part le canyon de la colca ? Doit-on passer aussi par une agence pour le canyon de la colca ou bien peut-on louer une voiture pour faire une boucle (le bus ne vont pas trés loin ?"

sinon, nous cherchons des coins moins touristique. le genre de lieu ou on peut faire des rencontres sympa; meme s'il n'y a pas beaucoup d'echange a cause de la langue. meme s'il n'y a rien de culturel ou historique a voir..

ou une randonnée ou l'on croise des villages qui ne vivent pas essencielement pour et grace au touriste.

ma derniere demande est peut etre utopique, j'en sais rien mais si vous avez des idées ou vecu quelques chose dans le genre, n'hesitez pas a m'ecrire ou a repondre a ce message.

Merci

cyril
Question sac à dos... English translation pending
by Mojospin · 2004-02-24 · 6 replies
Bonjour à tous !

J’aimerai avoir vos avis/impressions/expériences sur le style de bagages à utiliser pour partir en « routard » !

J’envisage de me rendre en inde courant mars et j’hésite entre le sac à dos de « rando/montagne » et le sac à dos de « voyage »… Je m’explique :P : 1/ rando/montagne : sac à dos classique pour la rando etc. (exemple :
http://www.lowealpine.com/Products/Detail.asp?ProductTypeID=10&ProductGroupID=173&Position=1&SpecificActivityID=) 2/ voyage : avec des fermetures éclairs de partout sur le compartiment principal… donc pratique pour tenir verrouillé ! (exemple : http://www.lowealpine.com/Products/Detail.asp?ProductTypeID=16&ProductGroupID=630&Position=2&SpecificActivityID=)

Je compte voyager principalement en train et bus et je me disais que d’avoir un système de fermeture verrouillable ne serait pas plus mal… Si vous connaissez des astuces (efficaces) pour le faire sur un sac à dos de rando ou que vous avez d'autre idée/conseil sur le sujet, je suis preneur !

Merci d’avance !

Jérôme
3 semaines en Équateur? English translation pending
by Gueraldine · 2003-08-12 · 14 replies
Bonjour,

Nous souhaiterions partir, une amie et moi, 3 semaines en equateur cet automne-sans passer par une agence de voyage-. Le rêve ca serait de pouvoir profiter des galapagos ainsi que de la forêt amazonienne mais je ne me rends pas bien compte si c'est réalisable en 3 semaines ?-surtout avec les moyens de transports les moins couteux...

Merci d'avance

Geraldine
Copan aux Honduras vaut-il le détour? English translation pending
by Mae · 2003-07-27 · 7 replies
bonjour

j'aimerai faire un grand tour (guatemala-belize-yucatan-tikal-antigua); tout ça en un mois.

Je voudrais savoir si en allant à livingston ça vaut le coup de faire un détour par Copan... et si oui, où dormir dans les environs?

merci beaucoup

Mae
16 days with family in La Gomera (Canary Islands)
by Pagaljavab · 2026-08-14 · 41 replies
Preamble: Why La Gomera?

When we started looking for a summer destination a few months ago, our first criterion was to avoid extreme heat and heatwaves. We had already been to Norway two years ago and are considering going back in the future for other occasions. So, we had some fun asking ChatGPT which destinations enjoyed a mild climate during the summer without going too far. Among the list provided by the AI were the Canary Islands... The idea of a place we wouldn’t have thought of first, both not too far away and exotic enough, appealed to us: “Hmm, why not?”

This destination had never really attracted me, though Magali was a bit more interested. Five years earlier, COVID had caused a short break in my professional activity, and I had planned a trip because the flight price was attractive, and I was looking for a destination different from what usually appeals to me, more than out of deep interest. From a distance and with a social judgment I acknowledge (it’s not great, but it’s not completely wrong), I had the image of a destination for party-goers enjoying the sun without the slightest interest in local culture, with concrete coastlines and denatured landscapes—everything I detest the most. Still, I had done some quick research on the different islands and spotted Lanzarote for its beautiful volcanic landscapes, hiking trails, beaches, and the impression of a good balance between activity and fewer crowds than Tenerife or Gran Canaria. Then I dropped the idea of going, without ever reconsidering traveling to the Canaries...

Until now! Because we started researching the different islands of the archipelago to see which ones might appeal to us the most. It was La Gomera, the third smallest island of the archipelago, more praised for its hiking trails and preserved nature than for its beaches, away from mass tourism (fifty times fewer tourists than Tenerife) but still a bit more developed than its wild neighbor El Hierro, that caught our attention. Contrary to what might be suggested later, I’m not at all addicted to AI, but I use it from time to time to synthesize quick research or simply for experimentation. Since ChatGPT had started anticipating my tastes lately as if it had become my buddy (often successfully, sometimes off the mark), I asked which Canary Island would suit me best for a trip with my family. The tool answered first with... La Gomera. So, I tested it and teased it a bit to see if this suggestion was well-founded, as the method sometimes makes it contradict itself. But no luck: “You’d appreciate the wild nature of El Hierro, but with family, you’ll find little activity for the kids. You won’t like the touristy vibe of the big islands like Tenerife, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote, and Fuerteventura. You could consider La Palma, but it’s really La Gomera that will suit you best, based on your interests and the criteria given.” So, we dug deeper into our research and were convinced without a shadow of a doubt that this island was the one waiting for us.

Without knowing it, we had Canarians in our circle who revealed their origins when they heard about our travel plans. One from Tenerife insisted we’d be better off choosing Tenerife (obviously...) because it also has preserved spots and that La Gomera, “you can explore it in two or three days, you’ll get bored quickly...” The other, a colleague from Gran Canaria who had never visited La Gomera, still recommended it without hesitation because it turned out her parents had just gone there on vacation: they loved it and had encountered few tourists. She also tended to think this destination was usually the subject of short stays, but according to what her parents told her, taking your time there was also a great idea. However, in our research, the idea that La Gomera is an island you can explore in three or four days max kept coming up. So, we considered combining its visit with La Palma or El Hierro, the other two that caught our eye. But hopping between islands by ferry represents a significant budget for non-Canarians, even more so for a family of four. Then, scrutinizing Google Maps, it seemed obvious that two weeks were too short to discover two islands as they deserve, and that there seemed to be plenty to see in La Gomera, given its very unique culture. After all, we read that some people spend several months a year there, others never even leave... Finally, these landscapes and this atmosphere, which seemed to us a mix of Europe, North Africa, and Latin America, tempted us. So, it would be two weeks in La Gomera, deal!

La Gomera is therefore the second... well, the third smallest island of the Canaries since La Graciosa was recently recognized as a fully inhabited island. It has the shape of a rough circle about 20 to 25 kilometers in diameter and has just over 20,000 inhabitants, half of them in its capital, San Sebastián de la Gomera, the only real town. Like its Canarian sisters, La Gomera is a volcanic formation that rose about 10 million years ago. The island is very mountainous and rugged, covered with red and black rocky landscapes. Geological activity has shaped, between the sprawling massifs that end in steep cliffs in the ocean, six coastal valleys with tropical vegetation that have favored human settlement. They divide the island like slices of a cake; from the north clockwise: the agricultural Vallehermoso, the rustic Agulo, the green, humid, and fertile Hermigua, the sunny capital San Sebastián de la Gomera, the southern and isolated Alajeró-Santiago, and the seaside Valle Gran Rey. They constitute the six municipalities (more like cantons to our French understanding) of the territory. The large solidified magma massifs that shape the heart of the island have created a large depression more protected from the sun at its center, allowing the growth of a vast laurel forest, today grouped within the Garajonay National Park, La Gomera’s green lung, which has earned it the status of a World Biosphere Reserve. Its completely European appearance contrasts sharply with the rocky and tropical landscapes of the rest of the island. Thus, the climate varies greatly from one point to another on the island: in summer, you can quickly go from a dry and sunny valley at 35°C to a humid forest area at altitude at 18°C.

La Gomera was populated late. As with the rest of the Canaries, human presence is thought to have begun about 2,000 years ago. Groups of animist Berbers, probably fleeing persecution, gradually populated the archipelago, especially the western islands and La Gomera, becoming its small aboriginal population: the Guanches (or later Gomeros). The animist and pastoral civilization of the Guanches thrived until the Spanish takeover in the 15th century, which, after a short period of harmony and mixing with the indigenous people, suddenly ended in bloodshed... La Gomera later became the “Columbus Island” after Christopher Columbus’s stopover, increasing the blending of populations. In the 20th century, many Gomeros emigrated to Cuba and other Latin American countries in search of a better life, bringing back a mix of cultures and traits quite palpable in today’s Gomeran culture. It is, however, in La Gomera that the vestiges of Guanche culture seem to have left the most traces, in the language, gastronomy, social practices... Moreover, most Gomeros, especially in remote villages, have a particular identifiable type and proudly claim their ancestral roots, even making La Gomera a bit exotic in the eyes of other Canarians.

Perhaps that’s why it has never really wanted to develop its tourist infrastructure too much. If we set aside the tourists who visit for the day by bus or boat from Tenerife on a marked itinerary (and whom we ultimately rarely encounter), La Gomera has remained a hidden gem, a destination focused on nature discovery that attracts hikers, nature-loving divers, and scientists for its fauna and flora, and to a lesser extent, beachgoers who don’t seek overly developed coastlines. Tourist activity is therefore limited. Roughly speaking, you’ll find a majority of Spaniards, including a substantial number of residents from other Canary Islands, many Germans who have a particular fondness for La Gomera and spend long stays there or own second homes, to the point that the German cultural footprint is clearly noticeable in some places (it’s said to be Angela Merkel’s favorite holiday spot), and still quite a few French. The presence of other nationalities seemed negligible to us. Most travelers come mainly for hiking, but it’s also a prime spot for whale watching. Additionally, the seaside resorts of La Gomera—San Sebastián, Santiago, and especially Valle Gran Rey—are well-known destinations for hippies, especially German ones, ranging from chic boho hippies to old-school hippies who’ve been there for decades, quite similar to those you’d meet in India in Goa, Rishikesh, or Paharganj. Thus, practices like naturism, vegetarianism, and local organic production are quite well established in some areas.

Some practical info: - The round-trip flight from Paris to Tenerife cost us 365 € per person (outbound with Transavia, return with EasyJet), including checked luggage and three seats reserved side by side. - We chose two bases to explore the island: one week in Valle Gran Rey, reputed to be the most pleasant of the three seaside resorts, and one week in Hermigua, more mountainous and close to the natural park. We booked two houses with balconies and views: the first at 120 € per night, the second at 99 €. - The round-trip ferry between Tenerife and La Gomera cost us 270 € with the company Baleària Canarias, including discounts for children aged 4 and 12, but I don’t have the exact details. It was a bit cheaper than with the other company, Fred Olsen. - Finally, we rented a car through the agency Cicar for 360 € for 16 days, which comes to 22.50 € per day. - Apart from that, we didn’t plan anything and decided the day before or even the morning of what we wanted to do. We didn’t invest in any paper guide on the Canaries, as information on La Gomera was scarce, but we used the very comprehensive site La Gomera Travel, a travel guide published by the Canary Islands Tourism Council, a real goldmine of almost exhaustive information on the island.

Alright, off we go for 16 days of adventure discovering La Gomera!



And we start the trip with music!

We start the trip with music!
Storm in the Canary Islands
by Attila · 2026-04-15 · 124 replies
15 days across Gran Canaria, El Hierro, and a dash of Tenerife under the storm Thérèse!

The planned itinerary will be slightly disrupted...

(The version without discussions is here)
Some trips are born twice - Peru April - May 2025
by Ticapi · 2026-02-18 · 248 replies
Some trips are born twice.

Ours was supposed to happen in 2020. Everything was ready: the itinerary, the flight tickets, hotel reservations and Machu Picchu, the rental car, dreams of high altitudes and wide-open spaces. And then the world stopped.

Like so many other plans, our trip to Peru was put on hold. Disappointment was followed by a more concrete reality: paperwork, endless back-and-forth, and battles to recover some of the costs we’d already paid.

The years went by. Life moved on, with its shifting priorities and unexpected twists. Rescheduling this trip wasn’t possible until 2025.

The itinerary stayed mostly true to what we’d imagined five years earlier. One major difference, though—in 2020, we’d planned to rent a car and explore the roads completely independently. Most importantly, we hadn’t included the three-day Ausangate trek, due to lack of time.

For 2025, our plans evolved. 4x4 rental prices had skyrocketed, and when we looked at our schedule more closely, we realized quite a few days didn’t actually need a vehicle. So we made a different choice and opted for private drivers instead. A decision we never regretted. Always punctual, thoughtful, and available... they were so much more than just drivers.

All our reservations were made in January, except for the trek, which we booked in February.

Finding reliable drivers on our own was tough, so we asked Laurent from Tout Pérou to handle it for us. Going through Tout Pérou also gave us a discount on the train ride to Aguas Calientes, so Laurent booked those tickets too. He also bought our Machu Picchu entrance tickets at the same price we would’ve paid on the official website. When comparing domestic flight prices, we found it was cheaper to book from Peru, so Laurent took care of those as well.

This time, nothing was going to stop us. Peru was waiting. And we were ready. 🙂
5 weeks in the American West with family in summer 2026
by Ally310 · 2026-02-08 · 24 replies
Hi everyone! After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.

I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!

Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)

Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home

We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.

I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!

We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Chatting by the water
by Muriel18 · 2026-02-01 · 115 replies
For those who want to chat quietly by the riverbanks, this is the place!
Martine from DD in Arizona and New Mexico
by Marcalamar · 2025-12-26 · 64 replies
Good evening everyone! 🙂

We’re back from our September 2025 road trip, this time to explore Arizona and New Mexico, and it’s time for me to start my travel journal—especially since everything’s already booked for another trip in September 2026 (to California), and I need to get started on the planning.

I was a little worried this new visit to Uncle Sam’s country might not be as "wow" as the others, but we still discovered some incredible places.

For those who don’t know us, we’re a couple in our seventies who speak very little English, but that didn’t stop us from fully enjoying our stay.

For this 6th road trip in the U.S., we spent 21 nights there, drove 4,160 km by car, and walked nearly 160 km in a loop starting from Phoenix.

We’d been to Arizona before (but not this side) and never to New Mexico. This whole road trip was a huge discovery for us.

In the prices mentioned (some in euros, others in dollars), bank fees and exchange charges are included. The flights, car rental, and parking were all paid for in December 2024 when we booked.

We’d downloaded the MPC (Mobile Passport Control) app, but there wasn’t a dedicated line at Phoenix Airport. Still, we got through quickly with friendly, smiling agents.

I don’t drive at all (I hate it), so the stops were chosen based on activities but also, for some, to limit daily mileage for the sole driver. The kilometers listed in the itinerary are the daily distances.

We traveled from September 9th to 22nd, unfortunately once again without our dear friends Mimi and Maumau.

The itinerary



Day 1: Flight Marseille-Paris-Phoenix, then Gold Canyon (133 km) Day 2: Tucson (271 km) Lost Dutchman State Park Day 3: Tucson (155 km) Day 4: Tucson (34 km) Day 5: Bisbee (182 km) Day 6: Lordsburg (345 km) Day 7: Las Cruces (253 km) Day 8: Alamogordo (162 km) Day 9: Roswell (264 km) Day 10: Tucumcari (369 km) Day 11: Las Vegas (281 km) – the one in New Mexico Day 12: Taos (213 km) Day 13: Santa Fe (224 km) Day 14: Albuquerque (123 km) Day 15: Gallup (246 km) Day 16: Holbrook (224 km) Day 17: Flagstaff (179 km) Day 18: Sedona (118 km) Day 19: Sedona (48 km) Day 20: Sedona (41 km) Day 21: Phoenix (256 km) Day 22: Phoenix Airport (35 km)

📊 **Budget**: A little over 7,500 € for both of us, all included. The exchange rate was in our favor (1.17 dollars to 1 €). 📊 **Flights**: Marseille-Paris Charles de Gaulle-Phoenix: 1,787 € for two, with one checked bag each (Air France) 📊 **ESTA**: $42 📊 **America the Beautiful Pass**: $80 📊 **Parking**: 134 € (super eco at Marseille) 📊 **Car rental (Hertz)**: 865 €. Since there were no SUVs left in the reserved category (Nissan Rogue), we got an upgrade (4x4 Ford Explorer). We booked through Air France (15% discount). We’d originally reserved it in December for 1,140 €, but since prices dropped in March, we canceled and rebooked for 865 €. Hertz offers a free Hertz Gold Plus Rewards program, which gives you priority counter service when picking up the car. 📊 **Accommodation**: 2,400 € We stayed in hotels and motels of varying standards (from 60 to 203 € per night, depending on the city), all booked through Booking.com or Hotels.com. Out of 21 nights, only two didn’t include breakfast in the price. Booking.com sometimes offers slightly cheaper rates if you book by phone using the mobile app, and our Genius 3 status on the site also got us some preferential rates. 📊 **Supplementary insurance**: AVA 200 € for medical care if needed 📊 **Cash**: $2,078. We left with 1,000 € exchanged before departure and made two withdrawals of $500. This cash covered: - Evening restaurants and tips - Midday picnics - Gas: $298 for 4,160 km - Museum and private park entries (per person): - Lost Dutchman: $10 - Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum: $28 - Bird Cage Theater: $16 - Tombstone Shootout: $8 - New Mexico Farm & Ranch Museum: $12 - Roswell International UFO Museum: $5 - Billy the Kid Museum: $7 - Rancho de Taos: $22 - West Fork Oak Creek Trail entry: $15 We got a few discounts thanks to our senior age (+65). - Souvenirs and little treats

Like on our previous road trips, we didn’t rent a GPS. We got around using offline GPS apps Here WeGo and Organic Maps, with maps of the states we visited downloaded before we left (on our phones).

❤️❤️❤️ **Highlights** (there are so many!) 📍 Goldfield Ghost Town (even if it’s a reconstruction) 📍 The standing army of Saguaro cacti at Saguaro National Park West 📍 Diving into the cowboy universe of Tombstone 📍 The welcome from Rick and Henry at our guesthouse in Bisbee (Garden at Mile High Ranch) 📍 The tangled rocks of Chiricahua National Monument 📍 The flavored pistachios from Dwayne’s Fresh Jerky and Mac Ginnis Pistachioland 📍 Restaurants: La Posta (Las Cruces), Diner 66 (Albuquerque), and the Haunted Hamburger (Jerome) 📍 The old plazas of New Mexico 📍 The solitude and beauty of the white dunes at White Sands National Park 📍 Stepping back in time at the Billy the Kid Museum (Fort Stanton) 📍 Sections of historic Route 66 and the old motels of Tucumcari, especially at night when all the neon lights are on 📍 Taos Pueblo and diving into Native American culture 📍 After the Rio Grande Bridge, the descent via NM 567 to the very bottom of the Rio Grande Gorge, then the road along the riverbanks to Taos 📍 The tranquility of the Chimayo Sanctuary 📍 Discovering the ingenious native dwellings at Bandelier National Monument and Walnut Canyon National Park 📍 The small towns along the Turquoise Trail 📍 The red rocks of Red Rock Park and the Painted Desert 📍 The extraordinary colors of the petrified trees at Petrified Forest National Park 📍 Sedona, its red rocks, and the reward of the viewpoints at the end of hikes (Devil’s Bridge, The Subway, and West Fork Oak Creek) 📍 The immersion in Mexico when visiting Tlaquepaque 📍 The almost-ghost town of Jerome and its terraced streets 📍 The incredible kindness of Americans, always ready to help and up for a chat ❤️

☹️☹️☹️ **Flops** (there are very few) 📍 Several museums and churches being closed, so we couldn’t visit them 📍 Some museums and visitor centers opening late (10 AM) and closing early (4 PM) 📍 A 64 € phone roaming charge because we got near the Mexican border and picked up their cell tower 📍 The outrageous price ($5.99) for a gallon of gas at the Shell near Phoenix Airport

I hope this helps! Anyway, thanks for reading my long post. Don’t hesitate to reach out, even via PM, if you see I haven’t replied and you’d like more details. Have a great evening, everyone! 🙂
The (Almost) Tour of the Dominican Republic - April 2025
by Ellobo · 2025-05-12 · 15 replies
Another fresh travel journal!

The context: For my 60th birthday, I had planned to take my family (kids + partners) for a week in Gran Canaria, at an all-inclusive hotel, but with the firm intention of exploring and hiking. The deal was to meet up at least in the evenings to spend time together, if my pace didn’t suit them. Personally, I’m not into beaches and lazing around, but my daughter-in-law is pretty cool. We were going to be together, do what we liked, and all would be well. Unfortunately, five days before departure, my mother-in-law passed away, and of course, we had to cancel everything. I was able to get a refund for a lot of things, including the hotel despite missing the free cancellation deadline (really cool of them), and I got a one-year credit for the full price of the flight tickets. So, we tried to plan the same thing for my kids, but with their schedules, we couldn’t find a date. I had to find a destination served by Iberia, far enough to use up my credit. We don’t know the Caribbean, we needed sun and a bit of rest, so the Dominican Republic won out. But no way were we going to mess up by staying in an all-inclusive hotel and only visiting the island’s paradise beaches… (we’ll get back to that). So, as usual, I put together a little road trip with a rental car.

Here we go!!!!

Day 1: Crossing the Atlantic Super early departure for Lyon-Saint Exupéry Airport. A 3-hour layover in Madrid (my wife’s had enough of flight delays, so I played it safe). Flight to Santo Domingo without any issues. The luggage arrived, the driver I’d booked was there, everything went smoothly. We got to our hotel in the Zona Colonial around 4 PM. Bad luck—it’s on a cute little square where there was supposed to be neighborhood activity in the evening. It’s completely under construction! Too bad! We decided to head to the Malecón, a sort of local Promenade des Anglais, except there are no English people. It’s nice, safe, spacious, and by the ocean. We walked for a while, and as happy hour rolled around, I started my training as an intern in rum-based cocktails. A mojito, classic, but it’s amazing to be sipping the drink in the warmth, right by the big blue. On the way back to the hotel, we grabbed some bananas, ate them in the room, and then bedtime.

The plus: We actually left! The minus: There isn’t one
Grand tour of Argentina March 2025
by Patbill · 2025-05-01 · 48 replies
My buddy Christian and I (Patrick) are off for 28 days in Argentina in March. We’ve already shared several trips as a duo (Bolivia Peru, Namibia, Laos, Costa Rica). Since we’re starting from the idea that at our age (65) we won’t be coming back here—there are just too many other corners of the world to discover—we did the "grand tour" of Argentina, with 6 domestic flights to make the most of our 28 days. Here are our stops: 1) Departure from Brussels to Buenos Aires via Madrid 2) Arrival and first contact with Buenos Aires 3) Early morning flight to Ushuaia. Boat trip on the Beagle Channel 4) Ushuaia: hikes in Tierra del Fuego National Park 5) Ushuaia: last hike and flight to El Calafate 6) El Calafate to El Chaltén by bus. First hike 7) El Chaltén: hike 8) El Chaltén: hike 9) El Chaltén: hike and bus back to El Calafate 10) El Calafate: Perito Moreno Glacier 11) Flight to Bariloche. Car rental and surrounding areas 12) Seven Lakes Region 13) Nahuel Huapi National Park region 14) Flight to Salta. Car rental 15) To Tilcara 16) To Humahuaca 17) To Purmamarca 18) To Jujuy via the salt flats 19) To Cafayate 20) Around Cafayate 21) To Cachi 22) Back to Salta 23) Flight to Iguazu 24) Waterfalls on the Argentine side 25) Waterfalls on the Brazilian side and flight to Buenos Aires 26) Buenos Aires 27) Return flight 28) Morning arrival Happy reading!..
Back from 3 weeks in Guatemala – self-drive trip
by MarieBenoit0 · 2024-12-13 · 25 replies
Hi everyone.

I wanted to share a little feedback from our trip to Guatemala—we got back a month ago, and I really appreciated the well-commented posts here that helped us out. So, in turn, I wanted to share our own little recap.

We’ve traveled quite a bit together (we’re 38 and 42), and Guatemala had been on our radar for a while. But with so much info out there, it was hard to sort through it all—especially since we only had 3 weeks on the ground and didn’t want to waste time.

Here’s the itinerary we followed: Antigua, the Pacific coast, Lake Atitlán, a private coffee and bird reserve, Chichicastenango, Sayaxché, El Remate, Río Dulce, and Lake Izabal.

We rented a 4x4, which was essential given the state of some roads.

Our highlights: * **Pacific coast**: So authentic and preserved. We met sea turtles, cooked and baked coconut bread with a women’s community—such a meaningful exchange—and kayaked through a pristine mangrove full of birds. * **Lake Atitlán**: Even though we were worried it might feel too touristy, a private tour let us discover local crafts, hidden workshops (weaving, pottery), and the stunning views from the boat. * **Sayaxché**: The starting point for the Aguateca and Dos Pilas sites—one of our favorite outings. The site is breathtaking: walking through the canyon and jungle-covered ruins with almost no one around. We stayed in a little bungalow on an island, totally off the grid. * **In Petén**, we met an Itza Maya tribe—an unforgettable day sharing a meal and plant-based healing rituals. Wow. This tribe resisted the conquistadors and still lives traditionally. We also took a tour on Lake Petén and swam at hidden little beaches. Tikal was nice, but we preferred Yaxhá. * **Río Dulce**: A day at a private cocoa plantation—an adventure in a buggy with the owner himself. We harvested cocoa and ate the chocolate paste afterward, then swam in a waterfall on the property. Since it’s private, there was no one else around. A real privilege. * **Boat tour on the Río Dulce**: For us, the highlight. We visited a school where they’re committed to giving kids a solid education while blending Maya rituals. * **Lake Izabal**: A peaceful end to the trip in a magical setting. We visited Quiriguá.

We went through an organizer who knows the country really well. We weren’t initially planning on that, but thanks to her, we had experiences we never would’ve found on our own. On top of that, we actually paid less for the trip overall because of her local rates. I’m not getting anything out of this—I just think it could help other travelers. Her business is Secretplaceincostarica (she also does Costa Rica, which we’re now eager to explore).

On the ground, we felt completely safe. The people are lovely, the roads can be a little chaotic at times, but we loved every minute of it.

Happy travels to all! Marie
Mexico: The Magic of the Yucatán
by Lhorizon · 2024-11-11 · 44 replies
Hello everyone,

What a pleasure to be back on VF after a few difficult years 😎 So, before diving into the topic, welcome back to VF and above all... keep going!

Well, I’m finally picking up my old habit of posting a new travel journal.

Before heading to Mexico in the summer of 2023 with my family (my partner and our two boys, aged 18 and 16), I had somehow convinced myself—though I can’t even remember why—that the Yucatán was too touristy, too cliché, too expensive, and overrated!

The country didn’t particularly appeal to me, but faced with my wife’s insistence—she’d been there years ago, before we met, and had promised to show our sons this incredible place—my arguments didn’t hold much weight.

And thank goodness, because I have to admit she was absolutely right to take us there! In the end, we encountered far fewer tourists than we’d feared (except at a few sites), and the prices, which we’d been told were geared toward American neighbors (US), turned out to be quite affordable. In short, it was pure joy on both counts. All that was left was for the trip itself to be beautiful and memorable—and it was...

1st stop: Isla Holbox and the whale sharks

Holbox (pronounced “Hol-bosh”) is a stunning island where you can relax in an enchanting setting.



Our main goal in coming to Holbox was to swim with whale sharks. So, the first thing we told our hotel, Los Arcos Holbox, upon arrival was to arrange an excursion with one of the island’s many tour operators: Glendy Tours Holbox. We set off the next morning, bright and early.

The itinerary for this outing is the same for all tour operators (and there are about thirty of them!): roughly two hours by speedboat, then snorkeling with the whale sharks, followed by another boat ride to Cabo Catoche for lunch, then more boating to a fish-filled snorkeling spot before heading back. In total, the excursion can take eight hours—or even longer.



Besides my two sons and me, there were only two other clients on board—a French couple. Our boat was one of the very first to leave, but after ten minutes, the pilot got a radio call. We turned back without any explanation, returning to the departure dock.

There, a young woman who clearly fancied herself a diva was waiting for us. She was Mexican and boarded the boat, snubbing all five of us while flirting with the pilot and guide, who were suddenly all eyes for her. We couldn’t understand how this diva had convinced our tour operator to turn the boat around just to pick her up when she hadn’t even booked and we were already far out. We left 20 minutes late.

The two-hour journey passed surprisingly quickly, and for good reason: we spotted dolphins six times! They were leaping out of the water as they moved. Pure joy. We stopped whenever they were near the boat.



The photo isn’t great—the ultra-wide-angle lens on my GoPro makes the dolphins look smaller—but at least I got a souvenir.

A few flying fish (exocets) also glided a meter or two above the water as we sped along. The false start was forgotten, and the day was off to a fantastic start in this stunning marine environment...

When we reached the area where the whale sharks were supposed to be, the guide explained that we’d now have to scan the sea until we spotted one. It could take five minutes or forty-five, he said, and if we were unlucky, we might not see any at all!

An hour and a half later—still nothing! The captain then headed toward a distant area where about twenty other boats were already gathered.

Sure enough, there was a juvenile whale shark (still a good eight meters long) there, and all the boats were lining up to approach it slowly, one by one, so as not to scare the animal. Each boat got about thirty seconds within a few meters of it, engine idling, before making way for the next. We were allowed to approach three times, but we weren’t permitted to dive in. That’s normal—such a crowd of divers around a single animal would stress it out, and here, whale sharks are protected by regulations: swimming with them is strictly controlled. There was even a coast guard boat with us at all times, monitoring everyone’s behavior.

We were torn between the luck of seeing such a magnificent animal, even from the surface, and the discomfort we felt about the absurd situation. All those boats lined up just to catch a fleeting glimpse of the shark for a few seconds—let’s be honest, it was ridiculous. In short, the whole thing was unpleasant, and probably even more so for the shark than for us, though it did keep gulping down kilos of plankton as if nothing were happening...

When it was our turn to approach, I dipped my GoPro into the water at arm’s length and framed the shot blindly, hoping for a decent image of the shark.



On the third and final approach, the sixth passenger on board—the one we’d had to turn back for ten minutes after departure—quietly spoke to the guide and captain after putting on her flippers (even though, I’ll remind you, no one was allowed to dive). She wanted them to ask the coast guard for permission to dive with the shark—just her! She whispered so we couldn’t hear what she was offering in exchange.

The two lackeys complied and shouted the request to the officials in front of all the other boats, with no shame whatsoever. With so many witnesses, the coast guard had no choice but to refuse. The diva wouldn’t let it go and asked them to insist, which they did, but the refusal was firm and final.

On the nearest boats, everyone had heard and was stunned. They openly mocked this bimbo who clearly had no shame. Hidden behind her star sunglasses, she responded with a dismissive smile. Pathetic.

The encounter with the shark ended, and we set off for Cabo Catoche, a site on Holbox Island where we were to have lunch.



We were a little disappointed not to have had the chance to see the usual school of whale sharks (they’re often dozens swimming together!), but that’s nature’s way, and we knew it.

And then, an unlikely stroke of luck: a boat ahead of us was putting divers in the water with a pair of adult whale sharks. We joined them, and while we were putting on our masks and snorkels, the guide briefed us. He said my sons and I would go first, followed by the French couple and the diva.

But Miss World, clearly unhappy with this order, quietly complained to the guide, who eventually switched the order. It didn’t bother us since we’d only get a minute in the water anyway—what’s a minute more or less?

So the three of them got in the water, and a moment later, they were done. My two sons and I, sitting on the edge of the boat with masks on and snorkels in our mouths, were ready to finally take the plunge. But instead of continuing to follow the shark, the captain was suddenly all eyes for Miss Silicone! He even let go of the wheel for a moment to help her back on board.

One of the two sharks had already left minutes earlier, and the second was swimming farther away. Other boats were arriving, and the captain went to join the queue 100 meters from the shark. Soon, even more boats showed up. There were way too many people, the shark left, and diving was no longer possible.

I was, of course, a little disappointed not to have fulfilled my long-time dream of swimming with a whale shark, even briefly. But I was mostly disgusted for my two boys, who had been so excited about it. I told the guide exactly what I thought and asked for compensation—not for missing out on swimming with the shark (you can never guarantee seeing one, nature isn’t at our beck and call), but for clearly skipping our turn to dive. He promised a refund.

At the end of the day, back on land, he dropped us all off, and as he was about to leave, I reminded him about the refund. He agreed again, calmly got back on board, and sped off as if nothing had happened—just him and the captain, two total cowards. I couldn’t believe it.

Of course, back at our hotel (which had booked this tour operator—Glendy Tours), I explained the situation and asked for my refund again. The receptionist called the manager, who arrived with the guide. Our runaway wasn’t so cocky anymore. Inside, I was fuming, but I kept my cool during the discussion that followed.

Right off the bat, I made a point of looking the so-called guide in the eyes while telling him he’d run off like a coward. I did my best to stay calm, speaking clearly, staring him down the whole time, and repeating several times that he was a coward, in front of the manager, who didn’t say a word. The guide had clearly been told by his boss to keep quiet because he didn’t utter a word during the entire twenty-minute conversation.

Anyway, I’ll spare you the details, but in the end, the manager only offered us another excursion the next day as compensation for the “inconvenience.” It was just snorkeling with fish, not another whale shark trip. He admitted their fault, but since we had to leave early the next morning and had other bookings for the rest of the trip, we couldn’t accept. And he refused to refund us.

On Tripadvisor, Glendy Tours has a mediocre rating (3 out of 5), but more importantly, it ranks 29th out of 36 nautical tour operators rated by customers. I was pretty upset with the hotel for booking such an amateur for us.



If you want to swim with whale sharks in Holbox, you might end up with Glendy Tours. And it might go well—I certainly hope so. But given the price of such an excursion (3,000 pesos per person, about 160 €!), I’d still suggest quickly checking online before you go to see which providers have the best ratings. You’ll have a much better chance of things going smoothly with the top-rated ones than with those as poorly ranked as Glendy Tours.

On the other hand, if you’re a beautiful young woman, you can choose them without worry—you’ll get better treatment than the rest of us...

To wrap up this excursion, I have to mention the “respect for nature” angle that all these tour operators highlight. They tell us they respect the whale sharks: only two or three people can dive at a time, and only for a few minutes, so as not to disturb these gentle giants...

We believed them before we left, but that’s not what we saw. When the sharks are hard to find except for one, everyone rushes it, and only the constant presence of the coast guard prevents the tour operators from putting their clients in the water.

Because for the second shark we saw, when the divers from our boat got out of the water and we left to join the queue while it was our turn to dive, other boats quickly arrived and started swarming the poor shark, which eventually left.

In other words, it’s clear these companies only respect the sharks when they’re being watched.

Boat reversing a meter away from a pelican

And for the snorkeling near Cabo Catoche, they attract fish daily by feeding them—a practice that’s normally discouraged. Afterward, these fish can’t feed naturally anymore and become dependent on Glendy Tours and its competitors.

A quick note on the rest of the excursion: Cabo Catoche (the site where we had lunch, on Holbox Island) is the northernmost point of the entire Yucatán. The place is paradise.



On the way back, we spent half an hour snorkeling at a site that turned out to be fish-filled only because the tour operators had the bad habit of feeding the fish. But this practice, which isn’t respectful of nature, is normally discouraged.



Plus, life jackets—like in many places in the Yucatán—are mandatory!!



As divers, we didn’t find the site very interesting, but objectively, it should delight those who aren’t used to putting their heads underwater in beautiful dive spots.

We hated feeling trapped in those life jackets, stuck at the surface, and for me, the highlight was swimming next to a pelican that wasn’t too shy—it was paddling right beside me in green water.

Anyway, it seems we can’t post more than 10 photos at once on VF, so I’ll come back with the rest of the journal in another message. Because after these early trip mishaps, the rest of the journey turned out to be magnificent...
Discussion autour du concours de juillet 2020: Verticale(s) English translation pending
by LuluMae · 2020-07-01 · 388 replies
Pour discuter autour du concours de juillet 2020, Verticale(s), ça se passe ici.
Derniers jours, premiers pas English translation pending
by UnaMilanese · 2020-05-28 · 46 replies
https://youtu.be/NekmwOvguHQ

L'hôtel est réservé, 12, 13 juin, ghetto de Venise.

La saveur d'iode et de goémon se propage dans les papilles. L'ambre du très vieux Talisker miroite dans les rayons du soleil. Un pas si fréquent colloque intime avec sa conscience méritait bien la puissance subtile de ce rare nectar des grandes occasions. Il vient de se conclure sur une minuscule décision, limpide et étincelante comme une goutte de rosée qui ploie le brin d'herbe dans la lumière de l'aube : je ne rajouterai pas 21 grammes à la douleur du monde. C'est dérisoire et m'emplit de joie.

Les masques s'alignent sur la commode. L'azur assorti aux sandales à talons bobines, le couvert de dentelle crème harmonisé à l'imprimé du foulard rouge, le beige marié à merveille au pantalon de lin. Les bouteilles de gel sont glissées dans les lieux stratégiques, boite à gants et sacs à main. Affaires réglées, automatismes bientot intégrés, donc bientot oubliés. Jolie occasion en prime de trinquer au Bellavista le jour où ils seront éliminés.

15 jours, 15 jours à meubler avant Venise (ou 3 semaines si on nous enferme en Lombardie mais peu importe). Peut-etre écouter et observer avant de passer à la suite.

On nous annonce une crise sans précédent. Contraction du PIB autour de 10 % pour 2020, l'angoisse collective croit. Crampounette post grippounette. Ont-ils donc la mémoire si courte ? Les 45 % de contraction du PIB de la Grèce, objet des délicates attentions de la troïka penchée à son chevet, n'ont pas naguère ému grand monde. Appartiennent-ils donc à une espèce différente des Grecs pour ne pas survivre à un quart de leurs maux ? Allons...

Peut-être ma semaine milanaise intercalée me permettra-t-elle en outre de rencontrer et converser avec un affecté psychique du confinement. Parait qu'ils sont très nombreux. Ça se manifeste comment ? Les êtres qui sont passés sur une civière entre des cadavres assis sur des chaises parce qu'on n'arrivait pas à les évacuer, ont passé 40 jours à suffoquer en se demandant si chaque respiration ne serait pas la dernière et si on allait eux aussi les asseoir sur une chaise sont dans un état psychique d'hébétude émerveillée, ravis à n'en plus pouvoir d'être vivant, le sourire géant imprimé sur leur visage émacié bouffe le masque qui disparait. Mon homme lui ressemble à une mongolfière. Il a tellement serré les dents que les 67 morts en 5 semaines, ces feu hommes et femmes qui ont fait partie de sa vie quotidienne pendant 59 ans sont restés coincés à l'intérieur. Il lévite, impassible, mettant un soin maniaque à ne pas varier d'un millième de millimètre les rites du quotidien. Il flotte psychiquement dans des automatismes reconnaissables et protecteurs et grogne à la moindre proposition. Même Venise.

Il faut que je réussisse à le trainer à Venise. Il faut percer cette baudruche de souffrance avec la fine aiguille de la beauté.

Pensées mots, pensées images. Dans ces semaines stupéfiantes de cauchemar réel, de glas et de sirènes, les mots retentissaient au loin, très loin, insensés et blèmes. Sa propre voix posant la rituelle question du soir (Qui est mort aujourd'hui ?). Le rassurant blabla mécanique avec l'ailleurs. Le verbiage machinal de l'excroissance professionnelle. Dans la dislocation de la douleur qui fracasse seule restait, inaltérable, l'image Venise. Lente errance dans les ruelles désertes, jeux de reflets dans l'eau des canaux, échos de la musique de Vivaldi qui ouvrait tout doucement les vannes des larmes, empêchant l'eau intérieure d'engloutir les ruines.

Instinctivement, la beauté sauvait.

Elle apaisait. Elle pansait.

Elle appelle aujourd'hui puisqu'elle offre un doux cadre pour les adieux accumulés qui n'ont pu avoir lieu.

Venise ensevelit ce qui est presque déjà du passé et dèbloque la boussole brisée, ouvre l'avenir. L'orient. Marco Polo, Carpaccio, Bellini, Pamuk, saveurs, parfums, vent d'est, trépignations de désirs.

Renaissance du chemin. Demain, dans 6 mois, dans un an, ne change rien : le chemin est là, il commence là.

https://youtu.be/-jIxpXAk-HE

Les ressources instinctives de l'esprit humain sont fantastiques ! 🙂 (je n'ai pas cherché Venise, elle s'est juste imposée quand il ne restait rien. Si on m'avait demandé, en janvier, en pleine activité : D'où repartirais-tu après un cataclysme ? Il est très peu probable que ce soit la Serenissime qui me soit venu à l'esprit)

Catherine
Camp de base Nord de l'Annapurna, boucle Thorung/Tilicho English translation pending
by Citipati · 2020-04-26 · 37 replies
Allez, je me lance aussi dans un petit CR du trek réalisé du 4 au 24 septembre 2019.

2 parties distinctes dans l'itinéraire :

1. Le Camp de base Nord de l'Annapurna

Un projet prévu depuis longtemps, je souhaitais voir de mes yeux l'itinéraire emprunté par l'expédition française de 1950. En ajoutant la difficulté d'une reconnaissance sur un itinéraire imaginé par Pierre Martin via la Kalte Danda, une large crête qui remonte de la Kali Gandaki et qui poursuit sur l'arête SW des Nilgiris).

2. La boucle des 2(3) cols entre Manang et Jomsom

Un itinéraire sur un sentier classique mais qui n'est pas ou peu fait car l'acclimatation est indispensable avant de s'engager directement vers le plus haut-col du secteur. Le Mesokanto La (2e col) est plus sauvage et moins emprunté, mais y étant déjà passé 3 fois, je le connais assez bien. Ce 2e itinéraire me permettait d'allonger un peu mon séjour dans les Annapurnas en établissant une boucle intéressante.

L'itinéraire suivi fut celui-ci :

Première partie (Camp de base N de l'Annapurna)

Jour 1 : Transfert en bus de Pokhara à Tatopani Jour 2 : Tatopani (1250) - Kalte Danda Camp 1 (2500) Jour 3 : Kalte Danda Camp 1 - Kalte Danda Camp 2 (4000) Jour 4 : Kalte Danda Camp 2 - Thulobugin Pass (4450) - Nilgiri BC (4230) Jour 5 : Nilgiri BC - North Annapurna BC (4050) Jour 6 : North Annapurna BC - Miristi Khola Camp (3560) Jour 7 : Miristi Khola Camp - Nilgiri BC (4230) Jour 8 : Nilgiri BC - Thulobugin Pass - Kalopani (2520) Jour 9 : Kalopani - Jomsom (2740)

Séparation avec l'équipe. La première partie dédiée au camp de base N est réalisée, je n'ai donc plus besoin de l'équipe. Je poursuis seul sur des sentiers bien tracés, évidents et "relativement safe".

Deuxième Partie (boucle des 2 cols du Tour des Annapurnas)

Jour 10 : Jomsom - Jharkot (3520) en bus Jour 11 : Jharkot - Thorung La Camp (5000) Jour 12 : Thorung La Camp - Thorung La - Ledar (4220) Jour 13 : Ledar - Manang - Khangsar (3750) Jour 14 : Khangsar - Tilicho BC (4150) Jour 15 : Tilicho BC - Tilicho Lake Teahouse (5000) Jour 16 : Tilicho Lake Teahouse - Eastern Pass - Mesokanto La - Thinigaon (2870) Jour 17 : Thinigaon - Kagbeni (2840) Jour 18 : Kagbeni - Lupra - Kagbeni Jour 19 : Kagbeni - Jomsom Jour 20 : Vol Jomsom - Pokhara

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