Par agace un grand merci pour vos conseils et suggestions ! Aline PS: nous avons déjà un peu voyage (tour du monde avec notre 1 ère fille et depuis 1 voyage en Asie par an avec nos 3 0enfants - aujourd'hui 7, 4 ans et 15 mois.... Nous nous adaptons bien en guesthouse & co)!
Aller en Birmanie via Ranong, pour quelques jours?
by Tnica77
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous partons en Thaïlande en aviril et comptons louer une voiture (nous serons avec 3 petit enfants) pour aller vers le sud, autant que possible loin de grandes foules. Nous gardons un souvenir magnifique et touchant de la Birmanie (c'était il y a 10ans) et nous aimerions y aller, même si cela est court (pas le temps de faire les visas en France). Est il possible de passer par Ranong et avec ces "Rin visas" de visiter un peu la région avant d ère partir en Thaïlande idéalement avec la voitur épouse ou en la laissant a Ranong ?
Par agace un grand merci pour vos conseils et suggestions ! Aline PS: nous avons déjà un peu voyage (tour du monde avec notre 1 ère fille et depuis 1 voyage en Asie par an avec nos 3 0enfants - aujourd'hui 7, 4 ans et 15 mois.... Nous nous adaptons bien en guesthouse & co)!
Par agace un grand merci pour vos conseils et suggestions ! Aline PS: nous avons déjà un peu voyage (tour du monde avec notre 1 ère fille et depuis 1 voyage en Asie par an avec nos 3 0enfants - aujourd'hui 7, 4 ans et 15 mois.... Nous nous adaptons bien en guesthouse & co)!
Bonsoir ,
Non pas possible d'y aller avec une voiture de location et même avec sa voiture perso ( pour les expats ) , puis pas possible non plus d'y aller depuis cette frontière de visiter les environs , juste pour les """ run visa """
Non pas possible d'y aller avec une voiture de location et même avec sa voiture perso ( pour les expats ) , puis pas possible non plus d'y aller depuis cette frontière de visiter les environs , juste pour les """ run visa """
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Salut Marco
De plus il faudrait une voiture amphibie car le passage en Birmanie s'effectue en traversant la rivière frontière. Et un grand courage pour l'attente , moi j'y ai renoncé en mi mars .
Bonjour Serge ,
Tout dépend l'heure qu'on arrive , en arrivant à 10 heures du matin aucun soucis un longtail t'y emmène , par contre vers 11 heures là c'est la cohue ils arrivent par bus , bonjour la file d'attente comme tu dis .
Il est évident que pas possible d'y aller en voiture jusqu'en Birmanie 😏😏 , oui faut traverser la rivière d'ailleurs j'avais mis des photos dans un de mes posts .
Tout dépend l'heure qu'on arrive , en arrivant à 10 heures du matin aucun soucis un longtail t'y emmène , par contre vers 11 heures là c'est la cohue ils arrivent par bus , bonjour la file d'attente comme tu dis .
Il est évident que pas possible d'y aller en voiture jusqu'en Birmanie 😏😏 , oui faut traverser la rivière d'ailleurs j'avais mis des photos dans un de mes posts .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
C'est ça exactement , j'ai voulu y aller en revenant de kho phayam donc vers 11h.🙂😉
La queue a l'immigration bonjour !
🏴☠️🏴☠️🤪
et tu dois revenir dans la journée, si je me souviens bien.
D'ailleurs la route de Kawthoung à Myeik est interdite aux étrangers, gigantesque projet de construction d'une zone industrielle dans les parages 😕 A ce sujet, je me demande où ça en est, certains investisseurs étrangers ayant retiré leurs billes ....
D'ailleurs la route de Kawthoung à Myeik est interdite aux étrangers, gigantesque projet de construction d'une zone industrielle dans les parages 😕 A ce sujet, je me demande où ça en est, certains investisseurs étrangers ayant retiré leurs billes ....
et tu dois revenir dans la journée, si je me souviens bien.
Pas obligatoirement , tu as un hôtel et ce fameux casino , tu peux y rester 3 jours maxi et bien sur ne pas s'éloigner comme indiquer .
Pas obligatoirement , tu as un hôtel et ce fameux casino , tu peux y rester 3 jours maxi et bien sur ne pas s'éloigner comme indiquer .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
et tu dois revenir dans la journée, si je me souviens bien.
Pas obligatoirement , tu as un hôtel et bien sur le fameux casino , tu peux y rester 3 jours maxi et bien sur ne pas s'éloigner comme indiquer .
Merci pour vos précisions. Si vous avez des suggestions, nous sommes preneurs ! En tous cas, merci d'avoir pris le temps de répondre ! Aline
Pas obligatoirement , tu as un hôtel et bien sur le fameux casino , tu peux y rester 3 jours maxi et bien sur ne pas s'éloigner comme indiquer .
Merci pour vos précisions. Si vous avez des suggestions, nous sommes preneurs ! En tous cas, merci d'avoir pris le temps de répondre ! Aline
Si ma mémoire est bonne il n'y a que l'hôtel et le casino sur ce caillou.... "Kyun island" ....
Exact , et on ne peut pas aller ailleurs . 😉
Exact , et on ne peut pas aller ailleurs . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bjr
pour le sejour au Andaman club & casino , on obtient un laisser-passer jusqu'à 2 semaines sans difficulté ( en même temps que sa réservation d'hotel - exactement la meme chose que pour les casino du nord thailande ( coté tachilek ou triangle d'or)
et je suppose que si vous voulez y rester 6 mois et que vous etes un bon client du casino cela ne posera surement pas de difficulté majeure !
pour reste de la zone : pour plus d'une journée, il faut demander un visa au préalable et a ce jour -- comme au Nord ( maesai tachilek) on peut avoir alors un permis de sejour de 2 semaines ( retour au point d'entrée pour recuperer son passeport) parcontre on ne circule pas librement dans les iles
enfin on peut - en ayant demandé un permis special d'avance et un visa - rejoindre par ferry la grande ville de Myeik et et prendre un avion pour Moulmein et/ ou Rangoon la région de Moulmein est vraiment extraordinaire et a partir de la on peut sans restriction rejoindre Rangoon par la route
la situation evolue ces dernières années tellement vite que ce qu ia été réalisé en terme de visa et de passage frontière terrestre ne 2012 et 2013 va probablement encore evoluer ( et fort probablement dans le sens de la facilité )
et je suppose que si vous voulez y rester 6 mois et que vous etes un bon client du casino cela ne posera surement pas de difficulté majeure !
pour reste de la zone : pour plus d'une journée, il faut demander un visa au préalable et a ce jour -- comme au Nord ( maesai tachilek) on peut avoir alors un permis de sejour de 2 semaines ( retour au point d'entrée pour recuperer son passeport) parcontre on ne circule pas librement dans les iles
enfin on peut - en ayant demandé un permis special d'avance et un visa - rejoindre par ferry la grande ville de Myeik et et prendre un avion pour Moulmein et/ ou Rangoon la région de Moulmein est vraiment extraordinaire et a partir de la on peut sans restriction rejoindre Rangoon par la route
la situation evolue ces dernières années tellement vite que ce qu ia été réalisé en terme de visa et de passage frontière terrestre ne 2012 et 2013 va probablement encore evoluer ( et fort probablement dans le sens de la facilité )
la situation evolue ces dernières années tellement vite que ce qu ia été réalisé en terme de visa et de passage frontière terrestre ne 2012 et 2013 va probablement encore evoluer ( et fort probablement dans le sens de la facilité )
Bonjour ,
Tant mieux que ça évolue dans le bon sens , faut dire aussi que la dernière fois que j'y suis aller c'était en novembre 2010 . Mais pas au casino suis pas un bon client pour eux . 😉
Bonjour ,
Tant mieux que ça évolue dans le bon sens , faut dire aussi que la dernière fois que j'y suis aller c'était en novembre 2010 . Mais pas au casino suis pas un bon client pour eux . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bonsoir Serges,
Il ne faut pas utiliser les long-tails en face de l'immigration de Ranong qui sont des arnaqueurs.
Il faut aller au débarcadère de "Andaman-Club". Ça coûte moins cher, c'est safe et rapide car tu navigues avec de vrais bateaux.
Les formalités de sortie et d'entrée de TH se font directement dans les bureaux du port et c'est bien rodé.
Une petite vidéo:
http://youtu.be/8Fw3kWtOTwg
Si ce n'est que pour un run visa, tu descend du bateau, passe à l'immigration pour sortir virtuellement de TH, faire 1/2 tour et retourner à l'immigration Thaï et tu reprends le bateau pour le retour.
Tu peux aussi passer 2-3 nuits dans un superbe hôtel avec casino, whisky et petites pépées etc. etc. ... 😉
http://www.andamanclub.com/home.html
L'accès à cette île du Myanmar se fait sans visa donc t'économise quelques $.
Il y a aussi un taxe free shop!
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Bonsoir Henri - Michel
Tu m'ouvre un horizon insoupçonné !😇😊
Peut-être pour l'année prochaine ?
Car j'avoue que ca donne plus envie que les bureaux de l'immigration a Lat Phrao pour une extension.
😠
merci ! 😊😇 😉
Bonsoir Serges,
Il ne faut pas utiliser les long-tails en face de l'immigration de Ranong qui sont des arnaqueurs.
Il faut aller au débarcadère de "Andaman-Club". Ça coûte moins cher, c'est safe et rapide car tu navigues avec de vrais ...
Je confirme l ayant fait plusieurs fois. Pas de file, checkpoints des deux cotes dedie aux clients plus ou moins hi-so de l hotel ... la derniere fois mon officier immigr thai a embarque sur le meme bateau pour aller gambler :) ... si vous voulez pas dormir a l hotel, dernier bateau aller a 17h. Info pour les visa runners, ne concerne pas le post initial!
Je confirme l ayant fait plusieurs fois. Pas de file, checkpoints des deux cotes dedie aux clients plus ou moins hi-so de l hotel ... la derniere fois mon officier immigr thai a embarque sur le meme bateau pour aller gambler :) ... si vous voulez pas dormir a l hotel, dernier bateau aller a 17h. Info pour les visa runners, ne concerne pas le post initial!
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.





