Je suis en train de plancher sur l'ébauche de notre prochain voyage.
Nous souhaiterions visiter l'Asie centrale avec nos enfants avec notre camion 4x4 en 4 mois.
J'ai entendu qu'il y avait la possibilité de mettre son véhicule sur un train au départ d'Anvers jusqu'à Oulan Bator. Quelqu'un aurait-il des infos à ce niveau?
L'idée de ce voyage serait de partir d'Oulan Bator de visiter la Mongolie, le Kazakhstan,
l’Ouzbékistan le Turkménistan , l'Iran, La Turquie et puis remonter via la cote Adriatique.
Nous partirions de Juin Septembre. Si vous avez des tuyaux ou des conseils, nous vous remercions d'avance.
Nicolas
"La pire chose qui puisse vous arrivez, c'est la raison car il est impossible d'en sortir"
bonjour,
pourquoi ne pas faire une boucle ? en 4 mois c'est largement faisable....Anvers-OB en train ......tu sais comment le 4x4 part...tu ne sais pas quand il arrive et surtout s'il est entier.....
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Merci pour votre réponse.Le but c'est d'éviter de devoir traverser la Russie racket de la Police et puis je souhaite prendre vraiment mon temps dans les pays d'Asie centrale.Nous serons avec nos deux enfants de 4/5 ans et 2 ans, donc 4 mois à mes yeux c'est bien.
Maintenant, je pense que vous avez raison quant au fait; on sait dans quel état on laisse le véhicule; à l'arrivée...
L'itinéraire (dans les grandes lignes) au quel je pense est le suivant : Mongolie, Kazakhstan; Kirghizistan, Ouzbékistan, Turkménistan, Iran, Turquie, Bulgarie, Albanie, Macédoine, Croatie.
Avez-vous déjà été dans ces pays?
D'avance, je vous remercie pour votre réponse.
Nicolas
"La pire chose qui puisse vous arrivez, c'est la raison car il est impossible d'en sortir"
J'ai déjà fait le circuit France....Ukraine...Russie....Kazakhstan...re Russie...Mongolie et retour direct Russie-Ukraine-Pologne..etc
Je suis parti un peu moins de 2 mois avec en gros 5 jours pour atteindre le Kazakhstan et ensuite descente vers la mer d' Aral, visite de Baïkonour, remontée vers la Russie pour entrer en Mongolie par Tashanta. Environ 18 jours en Mongolie et retour au plus rapide.
j'y retourne cette année, mais uniquement en Mongolie, avec un séjour d'environ 45 jours prévu.
Je vais peut-être éviter l'Ukraine ( gros problèmes lors du retour) en passant par Moscou. Je prévois 8 jours pour atteindre Barnault ( Russie, à environ 600 km de la Mongolie).
La Russie est un vrai problème au niveau de la circulation...et de la police....mais pas pire que l'Ukraine et le Kazakhstan ( gros racket dans ces trois pays).
Concernant le kazakhstan, routes pourries, nids d'autruches sur le goudron...attention en traversant les villes, en cas de vitres teintées il faut les baisser pour éviter d'être verbalisé ( c'est interdit , mais tout le monde en a et ils roulent vitre baissées à l'avant) Des problèmes quelquefois avec la population de certains villages ( pas envie de nous vendre des fruits et légumes sur les marchés et une fois des policiers en civils nous ont demandé de quitter les lieux ....) Après coup il semblerait qu'ils nous confondent avec des Russes ( ils viennent faire du 4x4 dans le pays et ne sont pas très populaires auprès des kazakhs).
Bien penser à rouler avec les phares ( hors pistes évidement ) c'est obligatoire ...pour les étrangers !
Si des questions...pas de pb !
perju
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Nous avons voulu faire en août dernier le voyage inverse (oulan bator-europe), mais impossible de mettre notre defender sur un train (ambassade contactée, spécialiste du tourisme sur place...), et pourtant ça aurait été une meilleure solution pour nous que de faire un retour prématuré et imprévu par la route, surtout qu'à ce moment là mon ami était tout seul pour rentrer...Donc je doute fortement que ce moyen existe réellement.
Ceci dit, paris-Moscou ca se fait en 2 jours et demi, et la transsibérienne jusqu'à irkoutsk en moins de 2 semaines (5300km), donc moins pour aller au kazakhstan, et les flics sont plus présents pour te protéger des coupeurs de routes que pour t'aligner (bon des fois ils laissent des panneaux de limitation pour travaux même quand les travaux sont finis et t'alignent après...faut le savoir...).
Donc même sans train, le voyage est faisable (il est d'ailleurs dans nos projets ! C'était la suite prévue de notre voyage...)
Bonsoir,
Nous envisageons de partir avec 2 4x4 en Mongolie.
Nous aurions aimer trouver un envoi en container à oulan bator.
Mais a ce jour rien trouve.
Quelle durée pour y aller en touriste et revenir plus vite par moscou?
Merci par avance pour la rapidité de votre réponse.
Cordialement.
Rolland
Trajet ( pour moi en haute - Savoie) Genève - Moscou au plus rapide 3 jours ( en passant par l'Allemagne , la Pologne , Lituanie et Lettonie ) il y a en gros 2500 km de Genève à la frontière Russe faisable en 2 jours et ensuite tout dépend du temps passé pour entrer en Russie.
De Moscou à Barnaul ( dernière grande ville avant la Mongolie ) environ 5 jours et ensuite il faut bien compter 2 jours pour passer en Mongolie, car depuis Barnaul ça ne roule pas très vite, des vaches sur la route en traversant l'Altaï sur des portions sans visibilité ou après un "dos d'ane" , donc faire gaffe !!!
Pour résumer, environ 9 jours de trajet, et sans s'amuser !
je précise que c'est pour moi (ayant essayé plusieurs solutions) le trajet le plus court et le plus rapide. Les routes sont en nettement meilleurs états sur ce parcours ( refaites en Russie ) et en voie d'amélioration en traversant l'Oural. A noter que les policiers russes ont fait d'énormes progrès et ne sont ( en tout cas cet été ) pas un problème ( nous avons été arrêtés plusieurs fois, à juste titre, excès de vitesse, oublie des phares...etc et à chaque fois ils ne nous ont demandé que nos papiers en nous laissant repartir )
Bonne prépa !
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
La route se fait bien .
Nous sommes partis du Jura et avons reliès la Mongolie via la Pologne, l'Ukraine et la Russie .
En roulant bien nous avons mis 11 jours soit presque 9000km.
Aucun problème dans les pays traversée à l'aller .
Au retour un PV pour dépassement de la limitation de vitesse 91 km/h pour 60 en ville (Ukraine).
Une ammande , divers controle mais juste les papiers avec courtoisie.
Nous sommes restés 30jours en Mongolie, durée du voyage 2 mois .
Le resaux routier s'améliore en Russie.
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I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us.
I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com.
Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend?
Are the tickets changeable?
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas).
This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima.
I’m looking for suggestions and advice:
Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips...
Do you think it’s possible to do something like this:
5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku)
3 nights in Kyoto
2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo?
2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy...
Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train.
Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question:
Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.