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Devils garden
http://www.nps.gov/arch/parknews/news052514.htm
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J.P.OLIVIER
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7674356;#7674356
Arches National Park: routes fermées
by Olivier30130
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Salut Olivier,
Je suis à Moab, et je suis passé à Devil's, ils sont en train de refaire des parkings supplémentaires.
@+ le spartiate
Je suis à Moab, et je suis passé à Devil's, ils sont en train de refaire des parkings supplémentaires.
@+ le spartiate
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Bonjour Patrick,
Nous serons à Arches le 19/06 et d'après ce que je lis, la zone de Devil's garden sera fermée à cette période :-(
Je suis vraiment déçue car nous avions prévu de faire la journée complète dans le parc et a priori, même les chemins de rando seront fermés...
Je me demande pourquoi ces travaux ont lieu en plein coeur de la saison.
Nous serons à Arches le 19/06 et d'après ce que je lis, la zone de Devil's garden sera fermée à cette période :-(
Je suis vraiment déçue car nous avions prévu de faire la journée complète dans le parc et a priori, même les chemins de rando seront fermés...
Je me demande pourquoi ces travaux ont lieu en plein coeur de la saison.
Hello
Seul le sentier de Devils Garden sera fermé 😉, il y a de quoi faire par ailleurs, et pour voir une autre très belle arche, tu peux aller à Corona Arch accessible depuis Potah Road, elle n'a rien à envier aux arches qu'on trouver sur Devils Garden.
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Seul le sentier de Devils Garden sera fermé 😉, il y a de quoi faire par ailleurs, et pour voir une autre très belle arche, tu peux aller à Corona Arch accessible depuis Potah Road, elle n'a rien à envier aux arches qu'on trouver sur Devils Garden.
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Bonjour Thibaud,
Merci pour le conseil ;-)
Par contre la route (ou piste) menant à Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?
En tout cas je prends note, merci! ;-)
Merci pour le conseil ;-)
Par contre la route (ou piste) menant à Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?
En tout cas je prends note, merci! ;-)
Salut Bananette,
Tu as de quoi faire dans Arches NP...
Corona est accessible par l'UT 279 qui est goudronnée. Tu auras une 1/2 h de rando a faire pour atteindre Corona Arch
@+ le spartiate
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Hi,
"Nous serons à Arches le 19/06"
Il serait alors grand temps de regarder la carte du parc sur nps.gov ou sur ouestusa.... et là, vs vs apercevriez que Devils Garden, ce n'est qu'un petit morceau du parc🙂
"Je me demande pourquoi ces travaux ont lieu en plein coeur de la saison."
La saison s'étale de mai à octobre... et avant ou après, il fait froid😛
"Par contre la route (ou piste) menant à Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?"
Oui... c'est une route🙂 Là aussi un peu de lecture pour obtenir des infos à propos de cette région ne ferait pas de mal😛
"Nous serons à Arches le 19/06"
Il serait alors grand temps de regarder la carte du parc sur nps.gov ou sur ouestusa.... et là, vs vs apercevriez que Devils Garden, ce n'est qu'un petit morceau du parc🙂
"Je me demande pourquoi ces travaux ont lieu en plein coeur de la saison."
La saison s'étale de mai à octobre... et avant ou après, il fait froid😛
"Par contre la route (ou piste) menant à Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?"
Oui... c'est une route🙂 Là aussi un peu de lecture pour obtenir des infos à propos de cette région ne ferait pas de mal😛
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Merci LeSpartiate! ;-)
On ira donc voir Corona qui a priori est une arche qui mérite le détour :-)
On ira donc voir Corona qui a priori est une arche qui mérite le détour :-)
Hello!
Merci pour les conseils😉.
Effectivement, j'avais bien étudié la carte du parc Arches mais je lisais fréquemment que Devil's Garden était un "must" donc je m'interrogeais également sur ce que nous allions "louper" 😛
Merci pour les conseils😉.
Effectivement, j'avais bien étudié la carte du parc Arches mais je lisais fréquemment que Devil's Garden était un "must" donc je m'interrogeais également sur ce que nous allions "louper" 😛
Si vs ne restez que 2 jours à Moab, vs verrez bien d'autres choses qui sont aussi des "must"
Il est vrai que si maintenant vs restez 4-5 jours à Moab, il serait dommage de ne pas pouvoir faire Devils Garden🤪
PS: Pour vs consoler, dites vs qu'après 3 séjours à Moab, par manque de temps, je n'ai tjs pas eu l'occasion de faire l’entièreté du trail de Devils Garden (jamais poussé + loin que Landscape arch).... Faut encore que j'y retourne une 4ème fois😉
PS: Pour vs consoler, dites vs qu'après 3 séjours à Moab, par manque de temps, je n'ai tjs pas eu l'occasion de faire l’entièreté du trail de Devils Garden (jamais poussé + loin que Landscape arch).... Faut encore que j'y retourne une 4ème fois😉
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Hi,
"Nous serons à Arches le 19/06"
Il serait alors grand temps de regarder la carte du parc sur nps.gov ou sur ouestusa.... et là, vs vs apercevriez que Devils Garden, ce n'est qu'un petit morceau du parc🙂
"Je me demande pourquoi ces travaux ont lieu en plein coeur de la saison."
La saison s'étale de mai à octobre... et avant ou après, il fait froid😛
"Par contre la route (ou piste) menant à Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?"
Oui... c'est une route🙂 Là aussi un peu de lecture pour obtenir des infos à propos de cette région ne ferait pas de mal😛
AH oui bien sur , quand il fait froid on ne peut faire de travaux !!!!!
"Nous serons à Arches le 19/06"
Il serait alors grand temps de regarder la carte du parc sur nps.gov ou sur ouestusa.... et là, vs vs apercevriez que Devils Garden, ce n'est qu'un petit morceau du parc🙂
"Je me demande pourquoi ces travaux ont lieu en plein coeur de la saison."
La saison s'étale de mai à octobre... et avant ou après, il fait froid😛
"Par contre la route (ou piste) menant à Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?"
Oui... c'est une route🙂 Là aussi un peu de lecture pour obtenir des infos à propos de cette région ne ferait pas de mal😛
AH oui bien sur , quand il fait froid on ne peut faire de travaux !!!!!
Tes idées sont géniales... comme d'hab...
Donc, suggère aux ouvriers de travailler ds le froid
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Bonjour Karine,
Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?
Voir la première photo de la dernière galerie ici.
Corona Arch est-elle praticable sans 4X4 ?
Voir la première photo de la dernière galerie ici.
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For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan