Compagnie de bus pour un trajet Buenos Aires - Salta?
by Nandriss
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut actuellement a buenos aires, je cherche a partir a salta avec un bus. ya t il une cie que vous me conseillez? fiable et pas trop chere ... mais j ai l impression quelles ont a peu pres toutes le meme prix, suite a mon passage aujourd hui au termiunal de retiro..
et petite question niveau confort, ya t il une reelle difference de confort entre le bus cama et le bus semi cama?
merci d avance
nandriss
ps: la decouverte de buenos aires est tres tres agreable..
DE retour aujourd'hui'hui d'Iguazu à B-A et il y a 8 jours à Salta, il suffit de demander aux personnes des diverses compagnies qui se font un plaisir de vous expliquer les frequences de bus, les prix, divers modes : CAMA est plus confortable ( on evite des nuits d'hotel, les repas sont fournis, c'est un peu la classe affaires desavions ) que SEMI-CAMA ( sieges plus etroits et inclinaison plus modeste . C'est certes un peu plus cher, logique ! Voyager en car en Argentine est très pratique, les liaisons sont nombreuses. Pour les frequences , demander les petits depliants dans les gares ou lire les ecrans dans les grandes gares de bus. Attention reserver à l'avance sur certaines destinations. A Iguazu, 48 h d'attente pour aller en direct à Puerto-Madryn.
Avec l'etranger, dans les gares routieres, le personnel nous est apparu tres frequemment tres disponible.
Quel compagnie ? Je ne sais mais le niveau de Cama compte aussi : entre le Cama suite, executive ou le classico, il y a difference de prix et de service. Il y a 3 jours entre Cordoba et Iguazu : apperitif, vin et champagne argentin
Attention suivant les routes, et le niveau de Cama, le temps de transport peut considerablement varier Entre Iguazu et B-A une difference de 3 heures Sur 17 h de voyage, ce n'est pas à negliger ... Question de prix, bien sur ! +/- 60 pesos soit 12 euros !
Bon voyage dans ce pays fascinant !
Les prix ne sont pas très différents mais même un peu plus cher il vaut mieux voyager avec une compagnie sérieuse: FLECHA BUS et prendre des camas...Rien à voir
Le change en ce moment est très avantageux...alors ne pas hésiter
Bonn voyage
Si t as besoin d'un hotel à Salta, je te conseille l'hostal del cerro à 4 quadras du terminal.
Son adresse : Santa Fe 456. Si tu n'es pas trop chargée, ce n'est pas la peine de prendre un taxi. Tu sors du terminal du côté ou arrivent les bus, tu vas vers la cabine de controle d'entrée des bus, quand tu es au bord de la route, tu traverses le parc en prenant à gauche. L'hotel est un peu plus loin, face à toi, après le petit musée des sciences naturelles et à proximité de la station d'essence
Au besoin tu demandes. En argentine, tu peux demander aux gens. Ils sont très accueillants.
Bon séjour
Si tu as besoin d'aide pour cette région, n'hésite pas à me contacter...c'est ma deuxième terre!
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
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😉semi-cama est tout à fait confortable. En décembre dernier, j'ai pris la cie " Flecha Bus" à retiro pour faire BA à San salvador de Jujuy (qui est plus loin que Salta) et j'ai payé 295 pesos pour 1250km. pour info 1€ = 4.50 pesos (à vérifier selon le change actuel)
Dans le prix en semi cama est inclus le dîner, le petit déjeuner, vous avez un film qui passe le soir et c'est vraiment très confortable.
bon voyage.😏
argentine06
nandriss,
je recommande également Flecha Bus qui travaille avec 4 autres compagnies, ce qui donne que Flecha Bus te propose un grand éventail d'horaire. Les cama premium sont bien entendu excellents et tu as une hôtesse à bord et un paquet repas plus alléchant. bien entendu cela se paye. Les semi-cama sont bien, j'ai voyagé principalement en semi-cama.Tu vas avoir une très faible différence de prix entre les deux donc, c'est à toi de choisir.Un voyage Mar del Plata - Salta en semi cama coûte 290$ soit environ 55€. De Buenos-Aires cela sera moins cher.
Bon voyage.😉
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Bonjour
j'arrive d'Argentine et avec le change a 1euro=5.30 pesos...les prix n'ont pas encore suivi donc tu peux peut-être t'offrir un cama voire un cama suite...le must (j'ai essayé entre Mendoza et BA)... il faut savoir que les compagnies sérieuses se vendent des billets les uns et les autres ce qui augmente les possibilités horaires... compagnies Andesmar, Flecha Bus et Chevallier
bonne route
Franck
Bonjour
Je vous ai déjà contacté il y a un mois!!
Ca y est on a les billets!!on arrive le 10 avril à buenos aires et on repart de Santigo del chili le 24 avril 2011!!entre ces quelques milliers de kms on doit choisir notre périple!!!
Il me semble que Salta est incontournable?je lis qu'il existe des bus, donc possible!!pour toi cet endroit est il incontournable?combien de jours?ou peut on se loger pour pas trés cher?
Aprés salta, je pense à Mendoza puis retour vers Santiago?!!!il y at'il des réseaux de bus?
Sur Santiago , vois tu des lieux que l'on ne doit pas rater?
à priori pour les bus il faut tabler sur le Cama, pas tellement plus cher que le semi cama?
faut il que l'on réserve de France Bus et hotels?
Qd nous serons A buenos, etant plus sportive et aventuriere que citadine, j'ai pensé a une petite excursion sur une petite île prés de L'urugay, ça vaut le coup?
je pars avec des amis moins sportifs que moi alors on adapte le voyage pour tout le monde!aurais tu des choses à me conseiller?
merci pour tes infos!!
laurence 0559150771(Bayonne ds le 64)
Hola laumac,
je me permets de te glisser un mot sur ta conversation avec Nicobry;
pour ce qui est des camas et des semis camas, en semi camas vous êtes 4 de front, c'est à dire que ton espage en largeur est réduit fortement. Je te conseille, pour ces grandes distances d'utiliser, au minimum, le cama (trois de front:deux côte à côte, le couloir et un seul)
La différence de prix est très faible.
Tu y gagnera en repos physique.
Bon voyage,
Salta, Jujuy, Humahuaca sont effectivement incontournable.😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Attention l'Argentine c'est tres grand et en 15 jours, même si on voyage de nuit, tout n'est pas possible, les bus sont confortables ( steward à bord et champagne à l'apero une fois ( Cordoba-Iguazu) Ils ne roulent qu'à 90 km/heure Reserver un jour à l'avance sur les grandes destinations. Bien reperer les quais car les bus n'accostent que 15-20 mn à Retiro ( 80 quais ... faut pas se tromper !)
Salta est une ville charmante ( un jour) mais ce sont les environs ( quand j'ecris "environ" c'est à l'échelle de l'Argentine donc plus de 400 km) qui meritent au moins 8 jours : au nord monter au moins à Humahuaca + Les Salinas grandes au sud Cafayate et la Quebrada de las Conchas ( un peu l'ouest americain )
Vous etes plusieurs : louer une voiture est "La" solution
Pas de pb d'hebergement : nombreux petits hotels un peu partout
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De fait se promener au nord de B-Aires dans le delta du Tigre c'est une excellente idée à condition de ne se satisfaire des circuits touristiques : dès lors bien faire attention aux horaires des bateaux car suivant les bras ils sont plus ou moins nombreux . On a failli s'y perdre à cause des propriétés privées ou le droit de passage en bordure des rios est interdit ...par des chiens
le site en construction http://formathg.free.fr/argentine/
Etre prudent à Retiro ( la grande gare routiere de B-A ) Ma fille s'est fait cracher dessus pour la destabiliser et lui prendre deux ou trois bricoles. Bon, dans le metro à Paris... !!!
J'ai pris du semi-cama tout le temps donc je ne peux pas comparer. Mais il n'y a pas que ça !
On choisi sa place, donc j'évite le fond du bus !
Parfois j'ai remarqué qu'il y a une clim qu'on entend plus fort....
Et quand c'est près de la porte des toilettes, tout dépend si elle est bruyante ou pas, à l'ouverture et fermeture !
Il y a aussi notre notion du bruit et du dérangement qui varie avec nos habitudes.... Certains répondent au téléphone en pleine nuit...
Il y a aussi notre notion du bruit et du dérangement qui varie avec nos habitudes.... Certains répondent au téléphone en pleine nuit...
Préparer son sac léger et pratique
Hola Hibiscus,
Il n'y a pas que la notion de bruit, il y a les odeurs aussi. Lorsque tu es assi en bas, près des toilettes pendant 19 ou 20 heures, je te prie de croire qu'en plus du bruit répété à intervalle régulier de la porte qui s'ouvre et qui se ferme et des relents qui en sort à chaque fois, ton voyage devient vite un calvaire. Je suis vieux et aux alentours de 90kg, une place en semi cama est trop exigue pour moi, alors, il faut voir ce que l'on veut pour 5 à 6 euros de plus ou de moins.
1900km ou plus, c'est pas à négliger.
On n'a le bien que l'on se fait!😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
En fait, ceux qui posent des questions oublient souvent de dire leur âge, leur notion de ce qui est du luxe ou de la nécessité, s'ils parlent espagnol, leur sportivité etc ! Très souvent le critère des questions et des réponses est le prix.
Pour les odeurs, cruz del sur demande à ce que les wc soient utilisés pour "orinar", et sinon, "para cualquier otra cosa"... (on se demande s'il y a plusieurs autres choses possibles hein !) ils demandent à ce qu'on prenne contact pour s'arrêter qq part !
Sur les bons bus pour longues distances, je n'ai jamais senti d'odeur dans aucun !
Pour les odeurs, cruz del sur demande à ce que les wc soient utilisés pour "orinar", et sinon, "para cualquier otra cosa"... (on se demande s'il y a plusieurs autres choses possibles hein !) ils demandent à ce qu'on prenne contact pour s'arrêter qq part !
Sur les bons bus pour longues distances, je n'ai jamais senti d'odeur dans aucun !
Préparer son sac léger et pratique
Il y a 20 ans d'ici, les bus de longues distances s'arrêtaient plusieurs fois sur le trajet; après plusieurs incidents (robo, asalto y otro...), cela s'est terminé et les bus ne s'arrêtent que l'instant de charger ou décharger pour le reste, on reçoit une ou plusieurs collations et boissons selon la longueur du trajet et du confort du bus. La majeure partie des compagnies se valent, n'empêche que les gens ne respectent pas les indications dictées par les accompagnateurs ou inscrites dans le bus. Ceux qui sont à côté du wc, ont cette odeur malodorante pendant tout le trajet. Combien de ceux-ci, attachent ils leur ceinture de sécurité? Et pourtant, c'est dit au départ et c'est la loi. Mais la loi, ici...?
Enfin, on peut discourir sur le sujet pendant des heures, çà ne changera rien.
Cela coûte 130 pesos argentins pour faire Mar del Plata - Retiro (24,53 euros) pour 400km, soit 0.06euro au km en Bus Cama chez Flecha Bus et pour 0.01euro on préfère voyager en semi-cama et faire 400 km comme des sardinnes. (bon, çà réchauffe!)
A plustard, sur une autre conversation.😉
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Je crois qu'on a oublié ça :
faut il que l'on réserve de France Bus et hotels?
Perso je pense que non, car les 2 sont abondants, et parce qu'on peut vouloir faire des modifications de planning.
Les locaux voyagent beaucoup il me semble, il y a des bus en pagaille, mais j'y étais pendant leurs vacances d'été... Et je n'ai pas pour autant eu de problème de logement.
J'ai vu pas mal de gens partir à Salta depuis Iguazu par exemple, et il y a plusieurs compagnies de bus, toutes au même endroit, des bureaux côte à côte partout dans tous les terminaux de bus.
Il y a souvent plusieurs bus par jour et par compagnie ! Une fois j'ai fait mon choix simplement pour la compagnie qui partait une heure plus tôt !
faut il que l'on réserve de France Bus et hotels?
Perso je pense que non, car les 2 sont abondants, et parce qu'on peut vouloir faire des modifications de planning.
Les locaux voyagent beaucoup il me semble, il y a des bus en pagaille, mais j'y étais pendant leurs vacances d'été... Et je n'ai pas pour autant eu de problème de logement.
J'ai vu pas mal de gens partir à Salta depuis Iguazu par exemple, et il y a plusieurs compagnies de bus, toutes au même endroit, des bureaux côte à côte partout dans tous les terminaux de bus.
Il y a souvent plusieurs bus par jour et par compagnie ! Une fois j'ai fait mon choix simplement pour la compagnie qui partait une heure plus tôt !
Préparer son sac léger et pratique
Très bonne réponse de Hibiscus sur hôtels et Bus.
Pour ce qui est des visites et que tu es sportive, calques surtout tes visites sur tes amis car s'ils n'ont pas l'âme sportive, tu vas les fatiguer et ta visite en sera gachée.
buenos Aires est à visiter, il y a beaucoup de colectivos et de subte dans tous les sens, mais il faut quand même marcher, sur une journée, on a vite fait des kilomètres.
En mars ouverture du théâtre Colon au public.
Bonnes visites.😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Bonjour, 😉
Oui, 😎
Rien!😎😎😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Bonjour!
tu vis en Argentine?
que fais tu là bas?
Je suis vieux ... On a le bien que l'on se fait!😎
Le bien de prendre sa retraite au soleil ? 😎 😉
Je suis vieux ... On a le bien que l'on se fait!😎
Le bien de prendre sa retraite au soleil ? 😎 😉
Préparer son sac léger et pratique
Hé oui, hibiscus,
ton tour viendra.
il y a de bons côtés...également des mauvais!
Mais, vaut mieux être positif au soleil.
Allez, je retourne à mon asado!
Salud.😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
moi c est mon premier voyage a salta et prend le bus de buenos aires a salta content de voir que le trajet est bien javais peur ha ha en meme temp ce ma fait eparnier 1000 dollars allors tres content ci vous pouver me conseiller soyer sens gene merci 😉
Bonjour Guillaume,
Je suis content pour ton voyage.
Quand arrives-tu en Argentine?
Que désires-tu savoir de plus?
car c'est vague de donner des renseignements sans avoir les questions.
Je suis, ainsi que d'autres sur ce forum, à ta disposition.
A bientòt, 😎
No deje crecer hierba en el camino de la amistad.
"Il y a les vivants, les morts... et ceux qui partent en mer." Victor Hugo.
Bonjour Guillaume
Ne t'inquiète pas , les bus de grandes distances sont très bien et moins cher que les avions....C'est beaucoup plus de temps de transport aussi...mais tu économises une nuit d'hotel.... Moi c'est toujours le moyen de transport que j'utilise. J'aime bien la compagnie FLECHA BUS. Tu peux prendre des semi-camas ( moins cher) ou des camas. Il y a une différence de prix mais aussi de confort. Le voyage en cama coûte environ de 600 pesos soit 100€
Ne t'inquiète pas , les bus de grandes distances sont très bien et moins cher que les avions....C'est beaucoup plus de temps de transport aussi...mais tu économises une nuit d'hotel.... Moi c'est toujours le moyen de transport que j'utilise. J'aime bien la compagnie FLECHA BUS. Tu peux prendre des semi-camas ( moins cher) ou des camas. Il y a une différence de prix mais aussi de confort. Le voyage en cama coûte environ de 600 pesos soit 100€
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
je voullais savoir aussi moi part de montreal je voullais prendre un aller simple pour buenos aires et rendu sur place acheter un billet retour en argentine pour retour montreal comment faire est ce que c est compliqué.billet dois etre moin cher en argentine ...............merci🙂
En principe, il est toujours plus cher d'acheter un aller puis un retour que d'acheter un aller/retour en même temps
De plus , les voayges ne sont pas moins chers lorsqu'ils sont achetés en argentine
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
ok ok cool allors je vais prendre un aller retour a montreal tu connais les prix pour billet en argentine il faut paie en argent canadien ou koi ci tu peux avoir prix ou me dire ou me renseigner pour cela
je n'ai aucune idée des prix entre Montréal et l'argentine!
Je vis en France
Cherche sur Internet , c'est souvent moins cher, sinon va voir les cies d'aviation
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
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Hi everyone! So happy to be back on this forum—it’s packed with such useful info! 🙂 My husband and I are planning a 2.5-week self-drive trip to Colombia at the end of the year, including some domestic flights. My first question is: is it possible, easy, and safe to do a road trip in Colombia?
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍