Attentats dans le sud de la Thaïlande le 16 septembre 2006
by Mauricien93
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
" Des attentats à l'explosif devant des magasins de Hat Yai, dans le sud de la Thaïlande, ont fait samedi soir quatre morts, dont un citoyen canadien, et une soixantaine de blessés.
Cinq bombes ont explosé simultanément à 21h15 locale (14h15 gmt), a précisé le colonel Pattanawut Angkanawin de la police thaïlandaise. Une soixantaine de personnes ont en outre été blessées, selon le ministère de la santé. Deux des engins explosifs ont sauté devant un pub et un parking du centre commercial Odean, une troisième bombe devant un salon de massage et les deux autres dans des grands magasins du Centre commercial Odean.
Les attentats n'ont pas revendiqués dans l'immédiat mais les enquêteurs soupçonnent les séparatistes musulmans présents dans la région.
Un citoyen canadien de 29 ans se trouvait parmi les victimes, a précisé le lieutenant-colonel Prasit Paocsoo de la police.
Un porte-parole du ministère canadien des Affaires étrangères à Ottawa a confirmé le décès d'un Canadien dans ces attentats, mais s'est refusé à donner plus d'informations. "
Peace And Love !!!
Aïe, ça faisait longtemps qu'il n'y avait pas eu d'attentat à Hat Yai. Celui-ci est grave et va avoir de lourdes conséquences sur le tourisme dans le sud.
Celui-ci est grave et va avoir de lourdes conséquences sur le tourisme dans le sud.
C'est curieux que chaque fois qu'il y a un attentat on commence par penser au tourisme, alors que les premiers affectés sont les populations locales.
Il faut rappeler que hors Irak la pays où il y a le plus d'attentats est la Thaïlande. Mais comme c'est en général hors zone touristique (sic) on n'en parle pas.
C'est curieux que chaque fois qu'il y a un attentat on commence par penser au tourisme, alors que les premiers affectés sont les populations locales.
Il faut rappeler que hors Irak la pays où il y a le plus d'attentats est la Thaïlande. Mais comme c'est en général hors zone touristique (sic) on n'en parle pas.
Merci pour la morale, mais VF est un site de voyages n'est-il pas ?
Par ailleurs, d'où sors-tu tes chiffres sur les attentats ? Je suis curieux de les vérifier.
Je comprends ce que le Piaf a voulu dire..c'est dur de se dire que les gens ne voudront plus aller dans le sud pour cause d'attentats..(c'est vraiment moche ce qui vient de se passer) et je comprends aussi ton point de vue...Mais La Thaïlande se passerait bien de se priver de touristes...😕
Toujours aussi agréable "il suffit de suivre l'actualité", sous-entendu que je ne le fais pas ...
Mais tu ne réponds pas à ma question, pour avancer "Il faut rappeler que hors Irak la pays où il y a le plus d'attentats est la Thaïlande.", il faut pouvoir le justifier.
Sawatdee kha.
Sur la page conseil aux voyageurs pour la thailande du ministère des affaires étrangères : voilà ce que l'on peut lire pour ce qui concerne leur sécurité : 😉 http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs_909/pays_12191/thailande_12322/index.html
Erika. Sécurité HAUT DE PAGE Des incidents quasi-quotidiens, qui ont fait au total plus de 1.000 morts, ont lieu depuis le mois de janvier 2004 dans l’extrême sud du pays. Les voyages sont déconseillés dans ces régions où a été décrété l’état d’urgence: Provinces de Narathiwat, Pattani, Yala, Songkla, sauf pour raisons professionnelles impératives. S’agissant des risques d’attentat dans le reste du pays, il convient de faire preuve de prudence dans les lieux de rassemblement touristique : Pattaya et Phuket notamment, ainsi que certains quartiers de Bangkok. Par ailleurs, une certaine prudence est nécessaire dans les zones frontalières avec la Birmanie, en raison des risques de brigandage transfrontaliers et de terrorisme, ainsi que de l’existence de nombreux trafics (drogues surtout). Le risque existe aussi d’opérations militaires le long de la frontière, liées à la situation politique intérieure en Birmanie, où plusieurs armées ethniques (Karen, Shan, etc...) sont en conflit déclaré ou larvé, selon les moments, avec les forces gouvernementales. Le franchissement de la frontière hors des points de passage autorisés est illégal et peut entraîner de graves conséquences (disparition de plusieurs de nos ressortissants).
" Des attentats à l'explosif devant des magasins de Hat Yai, dans le sud de la Thaïlande, ont fait samedi soir quatre morts, dont un citoyen canadien, et une soixantaine de blessés. Cinq bombes ont explosé simultanément à 21h15 locale (14h15 gmt), a précisé le colonel Pattanawut Angkanawin de la police thaïlandaise. Une soixantaine de personnes ont en outre été blessées, selon le ministère de la santé. Deux des engins explosifs ont sauté devant un pub et un parking du centre commercial Odean, une troisième bombe devant un salon de massage et les deux autres dans des grands magasins du Centre commercial Odean. Les attentats n'ont pas revendiqués dans l'immédiat mais les enquêteurs soupçonnent les séparatistes musulmans présents dans la région. Un citoyen canadien de 29 ans se trouvait parmi les victimes, a précisé le lieutenant-colonel Prasit Paocsoo de la police. Un porte-parole du ministère canadien des Affaires étrangères à Ottawa a confirmé le décès d'un Canadien dans ces attentats, mais s'est refusé à donner plus d'informations. "
Sur la page conseil aux voyageurs pour la thailande du ministère des affaires étrangères : voilà ce que l'on peut lire pour ce qui concerne leur sécurité : 😉 http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs_909/pays_12191/thailande_12322/index.html
Erika. Sécurité HAUT DE PAGE Des incidents quasi-quotidiens, qui ont fait au total plus de 1.000 morts, ont lieu depuis le mois de janvier 2004 dans l’extrême sud du pays. Les voyages sont déconseillés dans ces régions où a été décrété l’état d’urgence: Provinces de Narathiwat, Pattani, Yala, Songkla, sauf pour raisons professionnelles impératives. S’agissant des risques d’attentat dans le reste du pays, il convient de faire preuve de prudence dans les lieux de rassemblement touristique : Pattaya et Phuket notamment, ainsi que certains quartiers de Bangkok. Par ailleurs, une certaine prudence est nécessaire dans les zones frontalières avec la Birmanie, en raison des risques de brigandage transfrontaliers et de terrorisme, ainsi que de l’existence de nombreux trafics (drogues surtout). Le risque existe aussi d’opérations militaires le long de la frontière, liées à la situation politique intérieure en Birmanie, où plusieurs armées ethniques (Karen, Shan, etc...) sont en conflit déclaré ou larvé, selon les moments, avec les forces gouvernementales. Le franchissement de la frontière hors des points de passage autorisés est illégal et peut entraîner de graves conséquences (disparition de plusieurs de nos ressortissants).
" Des attentats à l'explosif devant des magasins de Hat Yai, dans le sud de la Thaïlande, ont fait samedi soir quatre morts, dont un citoyen canadien, et une soixantaine de blessés. Cinq bombes ont explosé simultanément à 21h15 locale (14h15 gmt), a précisé le colonel Pattanawut Angkanawin de la police thaïlandaise. Une soixantaine de personnes ont en outre été blessées, selon le ministère de la santé. Deux des engins explosifs ont sauté devant un pub et un parking du centre commercial Odean, une troisième bombe devant un salon de massage et les deux autres dans des grands magasins du Centre commercial Odean. Les attentats n'ont pas revendiqués dans l'immédiat mais les enquêteurs soupçonnent les séparatistes musulmans présents dans la région. Un citoyen canadien de 29 ans se trouvait parmi les victimes, a précisé le lieutenant-colonel Prasit Paocsoo de la police. Un porte-parole du ministère canadien des Affaires étrangères à Ottawa a confirmé le décès d'un Canadien dans ces attentats, mais s'est refusé à donner plus d'informations. "
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September 13, 2006 At 10:22am on September 13, 2006 the separatist called my mobile phone. The conversation was in Yawi . Here is the conversation: Separatist: Are you the director of school?
E: Yes, I am. Separatist: Are you ?
E: Yes. Separatist: Tell the Thai Buddhist teachers.
E: What? Separatist: Watch themselves. If we are arrested or surrounded, we will shoot all of them. Let me talk to a Thai Buddhist teacher.
E: The Thai teachers are busy. They are practicing sports with students. Separatist: Tell the Thai teachers… You must tell them. If you don’t tell, you will be harmed.
E: If you want me to tell, what's your name?
Separatist: You don’t have to know. I am the one who shot the officer at Bannangkuwae Bannangkuwae Mu 4, Thambon Bannangsatar, Amphur Bannangstar, Yala.
E: I was a teacher there. Separatist: I am not Bannangkuwae resident. I come from the north. I am Yuwae. You have to tell them because I know your house. You stay in , drive a car, resister no. . I know you and know teacher and teacher .
E: O.k. I’ll tell them. But may I ask... are you Muslim? Separatist: Yes, I am.
E: If you are Muslim. Does Muslim do like this? And why here? Separatist: Muslim don’t kill Muslim. I kill Thai Buddhists... who corporate with officers.
E: O.k. I ‘ll tell them. So, that’s it? Separatist: You must tell Thai Buddhists teachers. While I was talking with the separatist:, the protecting teacher volunteer was there also. After the conversation, the volunteer called to the Deputy Sheriff of who responsible all volunteers and I discussed with the rest of the volunteers in order to analyze the situation. Then I walked to the house of the education committee chairperson. His wife said he went to a meeting so I told her the story and went back to the school. At 10:45 I called to the Sheriff of , he said he knew already and told me to check the original place of phone number. I checked . The officer said it was the number of a canteen in a vocational education school in Yala. At 11:20 The sheriff of and police came to the school asking about the incident and have a meeting to make a new plan with more protecting teacher volunteers. At 12:30 After teachers finished lunch, I asked them to have meeting and tell them my conversation with Separatist to the teachers and tell about the procedures of safety.
Mostly the teacher cannot accept with the incident. Some got sweaty, some were shivering. So I told them to be calm. For traveling from home to school, not to worry because the safety volunteers are a good safety system. But I am worried when people stay at home because if the Separatists target us it is dangerous for us. But it can happen to anyone, not us only. But we must not forget that in three southernmost provinces all areas are red. No matter if we move or not, it is not different… but I will not move, I will be here.
SEPTEMBER 14, , 2006 Today at 12:20 the same separatist called to the religious lecturer of about what he talked to the "E" yesterday.
The separatist repeated what he talked about on the 13th and said this must be told to Thai teachers. He also asked if Thai Buddhists were there. The religious lecturer replied that the Thai teachers did not come today. At 14:20 the separatist called the school again. Separatist: Tell all Thai Buddhists teachers to resign and move from the area. At present we are pressured. We will kill all teachers from .
Religious lecturer: Umm... Separatist: You say "yes." You must tell them. If you don’t, I will not guarantee of your safety. I will shoot you all.
Religious lecturer: I don’ t have power to decide. I will tell the director. Separatist: Umm... Ok. The separatist used phone number .
At 16:00 pm I was informed from the director of that the separatist called and said “Watch yourself, I will shoot you to death.” The separatist called to teachers at .
September 15, 2006 Today the school is closed while authorities to decide how to handle this situation
September 13, 2006 At 10:22am on September 13, 2006 the separatist called my mobile phone. The conversation was in Yawi . Here is the conversation: Separatist: Are you the director of school?
E: Yes, I am. Separatist: Are you ?
E: Yes. Separatist: Tell the Thai Buddhist teachers.
E: What? Separatist: Watch themselves. If we are arrested or surrounded, we will shoot all of them. Let me talk to a Thai Buddhist teacher.
E: The Thai teachers are busy. They are practicing sports with students. Separatist: Tell the Thai teachers… You must tell them. If you don’t tell, you will be harmed.
E: If you want me to tell, what's your name?
Separatist: You don’t have to know. I am the one who shot the officer at Bannangkuwae Bannangkuwae Mu 4, Thambon Bannangsatar, Amphur Bannangstar, Yala.
E: I was a teacher there. Separatist: I am not Bannangkuwae resident. I come from the north. I am Yuwae. You have to tell them because I know your house. You stay in , drive a car, resister no. . I know you and know teacher and teacher .
E: O.k. I’ll tell them. But may I ask... are you Muslim? Separatist: Yes, I am.
E: If you are Muslim. Does Muslim do like this? And why here? Separatist: Muslim don’t kill Muslim. I kill Thai Buddhists... who corporate with officers.
E: O.k. I ‘ll tell them. So, that’s it? Separatist: You must tell Thai Buddhists teachers. While I was talking with the separatist:, the protecting teacher volunteer was there also. After the conversation, the volunteer called to the Deputy Sheriff of who responsible all volunteers and I discussed with the rest of the volunteers in order to analyze the situation. Then I walked to the house of the education committee chairperson. His wife said he went to a meeting so I told her the story and went back to the school. At 10:45 I called to the Sheriff of , he said he knew already and told me to check the original place of phone number. I checked . The officer said it was the number of a canteen in a vocational education school in Yala. At 11:20 The sheriff of and police came to the school asking about the incident and have a meeting to make a new plan with more protecting teacher volunteers. At 12:30 After teachers finished lunch, I asked them to have meeting and tell them my conversation with Separatist to the teachers and tell about the procedures of safety.
Mostly the teacher cannot accept with the incident. Some got sweaty, some were shivering. So I told them to be calm. For traveling from home to school, not to worry because the safety volunteers are a good safety system. But I am worried when people stay at home because if the Separatists target us it is dangerous for us. But it can happen to anyone, not us only. But we must not forget that in three southernmost provinces all areas are red. No matter if we move or not, it is not different… but I will not move, I will be here.
SEPTEMBER 14, , 2006 Today at 12:20 the same separatist called to the religious lecturer of about what he talked to the "E" yesterday.
The separatist repeated what he talked about on the 13th and said this must be told to Thai teachers. He also asked if Thai Buddhists were there. The religious lecturer replied that the Thai teachers did not come today. At 14:20 the separatist called the school again. Separatist: Tell all Thai Buddhists teachers to resign and move from the area. At present we are pressured. We will kill all teachers from .
Religious lecturer: Umm... Separatist: You say "yes." You must tell them. If you don’t, I will not guarantee of your safety. I will shoot you all.
Religious lecturer: I don’ t have power to decide. I will tell the director. Separatist: Umm... Ok. The separatist used phone number .
At 16:00 pm I was informed from the director of that the separatist called and said “Watch yourself, I will shoot you to death.” The separatist called to teachers at .
September 15, 2006 Today the school is closed while authorities to decide how to handle this situation
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Ça fait un peu froid dans le dos! Se dire à tout moment que l'on peut être une cible... C'est pas vraiment jours tranquilles à Bannangkuwae 🤪
Je ne connais pas vraiment le problème là-bas et n'est pas trop suivi, mais est-ce la première fois qu'un des membres de ces groupes séparatistes revendique clairement sa volonté de tuer des boudhistes?
L'autre aspect inquiétant des derniers attentats, si j'ai bien compris, cc'est qu'ils frappent maintenant clairement des lieux très fréquentés par des civils, au risque de tuer aussi bien d'ailleurs des boudhistes que des musulmans, alors qu'en général jusqu'alors il visaient plutôt des "représentants" des autorités. Un changement de stratégie? Une radicalisation?
L'autre aspect inquiétant des derniers attentats, si j'ai bien compris, cc'est qu'ils frappent maintenant clairement des lieux très fréquentés par des civils, au risque de tuer aussi bien d'ailleurs des boudhistes que des musulmans, alors qu'en général jusqu'alors il visaient plutôt des "représentants" des autorités. Un changement de stratégie? Une radicalisation?
c'est exactement ce que je crains, maintenant pour l'nalyse exacte, je suis bien loin d'être un géo-politicien 😉, mais je suis comme toi cr de plus, je pense que si un barreau de l'échelle est franchit, il n'y a pas de raison qu'un autre ne le soit pas (surtout dans la situation actuelle du pays ), et alors là...
c'est exactement ce que je crains, maintenant pour l'nalyse exacte, je suis bien loin d'être un géo-politicien 😉, mais je suis comme toi cr de plus, je pense que si un barreau de l'échelle est franchit, il n'y a pas de raison qu'un autre ne le soit pas (surtout dans la situation actuelle du pays ), et alors là...
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Là, c'est vraiment raconter du n'importe quoi: en disant que la Thaïlande est aprèsl'Irak le plus dangereux, attentats quotidiens..Tiens avant de lancer des stupidités pour fuir des gens qui souhaitent voyager dans ce merveilleux pays, il faudrait développer et donner des sources
Là, c'est vraiment raconter du n'importe quoi: en disant que la Thaïlande est aprèsl'Irak le plus dangereux, attentats quotidiens..Tiens avant de lancer des stupidités pour fuir des gens qui souhaitent voyager dans ce merveilleux pays, il faudrait développer et donner des sources
Comme tu dis c'est ce qu'on appelle de la connerie à l'état pure en matière d'infos, faut pas rentrer dans psychose de la paranoïa non plus .
Comme tu dis c'est ce qu'on appelle de la connerie à l'état pure en matière d'infos, faut pas rentrer dans psychose de la paranoïa non plus .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Meme si les informations sont plus que frileuses voir detournees par la presse locale par obligation, les attentats sont quotidiens dans le sud du pays.
Ils vous sera surement difficile en tant qu'etranger occidental d'aller faire un tour la-bas puisque les autorites thailandaises le deconseillent depuis deja longtemps.
Mesure securitaire mais egalement preventive sur d'eventuels regards venant d'ailleurs !
Ils vous sera surement difficile en tant qu'etranger occidental d'aller faire un tour la-bas puisque les autorites thailandaises le deconseillent depuis deja longtemps.
Mesure securitaire mais egalement preventive sur d'eventuels regards venant d'ailleurs !
Bien sur moi même me viendrait pas à l'idée d'aller vers ces coins là, je suis descendu vers le Sud il y a deux ans de ce côté là mais pas dans les zones sensibles comme on dit, et comme tu dis """" mais egalement preventive sur d'eventuels regards venant d'ailleurs """ cela ne fait pas du tout de la bonne publicité .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
c'est delicat tout ca.
parler au nom du tourisme sur un forum de voyage, quoi de plus normal.
or c'est un fait qui est relaté dans toutes les sources d'infos que l'on peux croiser ici. les touristes. les occidentaux.
je comprend que l'on signale l'incident...mais je pense aussi qu'il faut plutot se focaliser sur ce qu'il s'est passé reelement.
personnelement, qu'un touriste canadien se soit fait tuer ou un thaï, cela ne change rien du tout. un mort est un mort. un attentat est un attentat.
surtout que pour le moment, les touristes sont loin d'etre les cibles.
qu'un attentat touche une zone touristique est une chose a signaler, c'est bien normal. or parfois, la parano qui tourne autour du touriste tué (avec tout mon respect) est un peu enervante. je crois qu'il faut regarder les choses dans sa globalité aux lieux de s'attarder a des chiffres ou des nationalité.
je me doute bien que cela aura un impact negatif sur le tourisme dans cette region. j'espere juste que les canadiens ne s'empecheront pas de venir en thailande. 😕
qu'un attentat touche une zone touristique est une chose a signaler, c'est bien normal. or parfois, la parano qui tourne autour du touriste tué (avec tout mon respect) est un peu enervante. je crois qu'il faut regarder les choses dans sa globalité aux lieux de s'attarder a des chiffres ou des nationalité.
je me doute bien que cela aura un impact negatif sur le tourisme dans cette region. j'espere juste que les canadiens ne s'empecheront pas de venir en thailande. 😕
"not all who wander are lost"
Oui c'est vrai ce que tu dis Poupette "" c'est délicat tout ça "" mais je voudrais savoir qu'on me site un pays dans le monde ou il n'y a rien en matière de crimes et de délinquance j'y vais de suite et m'installe .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
rien en matiere de delinquance...je sais pas.
mais singapour?
🤪
"not all who wander are lost"
qu'un touriste canadien se soit fait tuer ou un thaï, cela ne change rien du tout. un mort est un mort.
Mais non ça change quelque chose. Auparavant les attentats dans le sud étaient ciblés (policiers, enseignants...) alors que celui-ci est aveugle (un centre commercial) et ça prouve que maintenant tout le monde peut être touché (y compris leurs "frères" musulmans). Un pas vient donc d' être apparemment franchi. Quant au fait qu' on ait signalé la présence d' un mort canadien ce n' est pas comme tu sembles le penser parce qu' on place plus haut la vie d' un étranger que la vie d' un thai mais c' est parce que c' est le premier touriste tué dans cette zone et c' est normal qu' en tant que voyageurs français que nous sommes on se soit un peu plus identifié à ce voyageur canadien.
Mais non ça change quelque chose. Auparavant les attentats dans le sud étaient ciblés (policiers, enseignants...) alors que celui-ci est aveugle (un centre commercial) et ça prouve que maintenant tout le monde peut être touché (y compris leurs "frères" musulmans). Un pas vient donc d' être apparemment franchi. Quant au fait qu' on ait signalé la présence d' un mort canadien ce n' est pas comme tu sembles le penser parce qu' on place plus haut la vie d' un étranger que la vie d' un thai mais c' est parce que c' est le premier touriste tué dans cette zone et c' est normal qu' en tant que voyageurs français que nous sommes on se soit un peu plus identifié à ce voyageur canadien.
j'admet oui...tu as raison.
je me fesais porte parole plus de "l'humain" en general, au dela de l'evenement.
mais ton explication est juste.
"not all who wander are lost"
rien en matiere de delinquance...je sais pas.
mais singapour?
🤪
Oui mais bof en superficie Singapour c'est un village même en vélo tu fais le tour plusieurs fois par jour si tu es en forme 😉😏
Oui mais bof en superficie Singapour c'est un village même en vélo tu fais le tour plusieurs fois par jour si tu es en forme 😉😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
ahhh bah faut savoir hein !!! tu veux le beurre et l'argent du beurre!
singapour est tres bien! meme à velo! tu peux faire plusieurs tours!
"not all who wander are lost"
Les crimes en Thailande sont si commun qu'il effraieraient n'importe quel etranger venant de pays ou le meurtre interpelle l'opinion publique.
Et la c'est le silence absolu dans la presse internationale, pourquoi ?
Meme les chancelleries des ambassades ne peuvent ignorer la chose, aucun commentaire !
Quant a la region sud du pays, les autorites actuelles poussees par son sponsor des USA profitent de l'amalgame du terrorisme international. N'oublions pas que ce coin musulman du pays fut un sultanat independant dans le passe et qu'ils ont perdu leur souverainete suite aux guerres entre le Siam et La Malaisie !
Donc ces troubles ne sont pas nouveaux, ils sont meme perpetuels depuis des decennies. Comme les 400 tues en une seule journee dans les annees 60.
Quant a la region sud du pays, les autorites actuelles poussees par son sponsor des USA profitent de l'amalgame du terrorisme international. N'oublions pas que ce coin musulman du pays fut un sultanat independant dans le passe et qu'ils ont perdu leur souverainete suite aux guerres entre le Siam et La Malaisie !
Donc ces troubles ne sont pas nouveaux, ils sont meme perpetuels depuis des decennies. Comme les 400 tues en une seule journee dans les annees 60.
ahhh bah faut savoir hein !!! tu veux le beurre et l'argent du beurre!
singapour est tres bien! meme à velo! tu peux faire plusieurs tours!
😏😏😏😏😏😏
😏😏😏😏😏😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Salut,
En train no soucis .😎
En train no soucis .😎
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
je crois qu'ils sont nombreux a t'avoir repondu et si je peux mettre mon grain de sel, je dirai, descends(surtout avec le train qui descends sur kuala) et ne pense pas trop à çà, qu'en penses tu, ici chez nous en bemlgique, ce n'est même pas évoquér aux journal !!
Une chose est sûre, il faut faire quelque chose !!!!!!
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Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!