Bonjour,
Mon mari et moi souhaitons prendre une année sabbatique, ceci dans le but de faire découvrire à nos deux enfants (8 et 10ans) la culture du pays de leur maman(qui est chinoise).
Je cherche pour cela "un petit coin de paradis" qui répond au maxi les critères suivants: assez éloigné de la frénésie de villes modernes climat doux et agréable beau paysage, beaux monuments...à visiter logement etc pas trop cher c'est pas génant si y'a un peu de touristes occidentaux, mais surtout que ce ne soit pas envahi pas le tourisme de masse chinois!
Merci d'avance pour vos tuyaux et vos conseils.
Shanshui
"un petit coin de paradis" qui ... ne soit pas envahi pas le tourisme de masse chinois!
Est-ce que cela existe ?
Moi même je le recherche et il m'arrive de le trouver de temps en temps mais cela ne dure pas très longtemps.
Mais pourquoi pas à quelques distances, quelques kilomètres, loin de la foule "déchainée" d'un lieux fabuleux.
Si vous pouvez attendre quelques semaines je me rends dans cette partie de la Chine pour deux mois à la recherche de Shangri La (la vraie !) aux confins du Yunnan et du Guangxi, au Xishuangbanna et ailleurs au hasard.
En Novembre dernier je suis allé d'Hong Kong à la frontière vienamienne mais même si j'ai bien apprécié les environs de Kaiping (diaolou et villages anciens) et la rivière Zuo Jiang et ses peintures murales près de Ningming je n'ai pas "flashé" au point de vous suggérer l'un ou l'autre lieu comme destination incontournable.
J'ai par contre bien aimé Nanning comme l'an dernier sa presqu'homonyme Nanjing. Mais je suis un rat des ville, rat-gamuffin 🤪
A quelques distances il y a la pure merveille naturelle de Yangshuo et ses environs - que vous devez certainement connaître - mais là question touriste c'est "blindé" comme on dit quoiqu'on puisse s'y retrouvé seul et même un peu perdu.
Le mieux c'est d'y allé en repérage ou alors en pérégrination jusqu'au moment où vous trouverez votre bonheur.
Bonnes recherches
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Bonjour
Spontanément je vous aurais conseillé Kunming capitale de la province du Yunnan
On l'appelle aussi la ville de l'éternel printemps
C'est une ville agréable, parcs, temples, petits marchés
Elle permet d'avoir des activités
http://www.gokunming.com/en/http://www.tcgnordica.com/lang-pref/en/ expos, spectacles
et surtout cette ville permet de rayonner facilement dans la province
Tout dépend aussi si vous souhaitez scolariser vos enfants
Dans un 2e temps j'ai pensé à Jianshui qui est à 3h de route au sud de Kunming
Temple de Confucius, vieille ville en partie reconstruite sympa, maison Zhu, ville à taille humaine pas trop loin de Kunming Accès facille à Yuanyang pour les rizières en terasses, les plus belles pour moi, marchés, festivals ... Shipping à 1/2h de bus (vieille ville, village proche magnifique, lac ou je n'ai pas eu le temps de me rendre) Mile festival en mars, chais Yunna red wine que l'on peut visiter, voir y séjourner, complexe de sources d'eau chaude et palis de l'eau bien adapté au enfant Jingping et bien d'autres endroits qui ne sont pas forcément dans les guides (Très utile le Lonely planet China southwest en anglais)
Jianshui permet de rayonner sur tout le sud du Yunnan de rejoindre rapidement Kunming et m'a semblé très agréable à vivre quand j'y suis passé en avril 2008. je viens de regardé la météo, pour aujourd'hui 18°
En espérant que cela vous apportera un début de réponse
Siya
Bonjour, Suisiya,
Merci pour votre réponse.
Kunming est une trop grande ville pour moi, trop moderne et trop chère, donc je mets une croix dessus.
Effectivement j'ai beaucoup pensé à Jianshui, des amis français l'ont visité l'été 2008 et me l'ont vivement recommandée. J'ai fait pas mal de recherches sur cette ville, mais malheureusement deux articles de presse en chinois m'ont fait douté. D'abord, une bagarre sanglante dans une discothèque de la petite ville, une discothèque? des violences gratuites? Décidément, de la connerie humaine à la chinoise n'épargne aucun recoin de cet empire, quel dommage! Avec les enfants, la sécurité du lieu est la priorité des priorités.
Un autre article raconte que le gouvernement local a été sanctionné par les autorités centrales pour avoir démoli plusieurs des maisons classées architectures protégées, et une école de Tuanshan a été délogée de l'ancienne batisse traditionnelle au nom du développement du tourisme... J'ai peur que cette ancienne cité ne soit défigurée par toute cette frénésie de construction.
Je ne pense pas scolariser les enfants, je les aiderai moi-même en suivant les cours du CNED. En revanche, je ferai tout le necessaire pour qu'ils aient des copains, du voisinage et à travers des clubs culturels etc.
J'attends avec impatience vos nouvelles sur le terrain.
Shanshui
kumming comme base initiale me parait la plus simple façon, a 2 heure d'avion du laos à 4 heures de la thailande avec tous les consulats utiles et toutes les excursions possibles autour lijiang dali frontière birmane etc...gdst
Bonjour
Les bagarres sanglantes il y en aussi dans la petite ville ou j'habite en Bretagne
Ce n'est absolument pas un critère la discothèque
Je me souviens avoir été dans une discothèque dans le village de Yongsheng plus loin que le lac Lugu en 2001
C'était un village !!!
Dans toutes les villes, villages, il y a des destructions partout en Chine
Et dans les villages qui semblaient intactes que j'ai visité Shaxi, Nuodeng, Heshun, Zhengying Cun
Tout juste si vous avez une épicerie, parfois pas d'internet
Après vous avez des petites villes avec des quartiers anciens comme Jianshui, Shipping, Weishan, Jianchuan
A part Jianshui, ces petites villes sont toutes au nord de Kunming
Et j'ai volontairement enlevé Dali et Lijiang
Ensuite vous avez les villes ou certains guides papiers annoncent qu'il y a une vieille ville que je n'ai pas trouvé ex Tengchong
Voilà ma réponse précédente essayait de prendre en compte le maximum de vos critères
Je suis passée dans tous les endroits cités dans ce message
Tenez nous au courant du choix de votre petit coin de paradis
J'en profite pour signaler l'activité de ce bureau d'information / boutique qui relève du tourisme et commerce équitable
http://www.yuanyangwindow.com/
Merci encore Siya pour votre précision.
J'ai une carte de yunnan mais n'arrive pas toujours à retrouver les noms des villages cités dans votre message. J'imagine Jianchuan doit être la ville qui se situe à mi-chemin entre Dali et Lijiang, est-elle la ville réputée pour le bois sculté? Comment est le climat et le reste?
J'ai vécu un an à Dali en 1994 et n'ose pas imaginer comment elle devrait être défigurée aujourd'hui, cette jolie petite ville qui enferme tant de mes doux souvenirs, comme un tableau impressioniste du style "xiao qiao liu shui ren jia"! De temps à autre, cette envie de trouver un autre petit Dali me prend, mon petit Dali de y'a 20ans, avant que le train, l'avion et les buldozers (pour des hotels luxieux) soient passés, y a-t-il un coin qui ressemble à l'ancien Dali?
Petite précision by the way, Siya pour moi signifie "pensées élégantes", ai-je raison?
Shanshui
Merci pour votre réponse, mais les endroits cités me paraîssent trop développés du point de vue touristique. Auriez-vous d'autres adresses hors sentier battu à me proposer?
Shanshui
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