Bonjour
Je viens de lire que les otages Français enlevés au nord du Bénin ont été libérés ainsi que 2 autres otages étrangers, 2 fusiliers marins ont perdus la vie dans cette opération de sauvetage .
Cette information m' a mis assez mal à l' aide et m' a poussé à m' interroger sur ces voyages que nous effectuons dans des régions annoncées dangeureuses comme toutes les parties frontalières du Nord du Bénin, nord Cameroun , le Mali , le Burkina ect......et autres régions du monde .
Certaines personnes sur les forums ventent ces destinations en minimisant les risques puisque ils y sont allés et en reviennent enchantés , il n' y a donc aucun problème , "il faut arreter de raconter n' importe quoi , arreter de prendre au serieux les informations du ministère des AE , beaucoup trop alarmiste " nous disent - il .
Alors si l' on souhaite prendre des risques , pas de soucis , chacun mène sa vie à sa guise mais il faut alors en assumer les conséquences.
Je pense aux 2 jeunes homme ( a leurs familles ) qui sont morts pour sauver d' autres vies , quel gâchis .
Dommage que la discution sur " l' acceptation du risque en voyage " soit close car cela est très intéressant .
En effet la majorité des intervenants acceptaient le risque pour eux , du moins le disaient ils puisque leur voyage s' était bien passé , mais qu' en est il lorsque l' on entraîne d'autres personnes , même si ce sont des professionnels, dans des situations dangeureuses.......
Cette discussion n'est pas fermée.
Néanmoins, si c'est là un sujet sur lequel j'ai des idées, je ne pense pas opportun de débattre de cela quand l'actualité est vive.
Apparemment, les 2 otages vont être accueillis par le président Macron. En tant que victimes d'un acte de terrorisme, il pourront bénéficier d'une indemnisation par le FGTI. Il leur sera même possible de postuler pour une emploi réservé de la fonction publique (quota d'emplois réservés notamment aux anciens militaires). Dans ce cas, ils seront prioritaires par rapport aux militaires ayant servi 4 ans sous les drapeaux... Des héros des temps modernes.
La région NORD Bénin était en zone dangeureuse à cause de sa proximité avec le Burkina , lorsque l' on se jette dans la gueule du loup et que cela entraîne la mort de 2 personnes ........
La région NORD Bénin était en zone dangeureuse à cause de sa proximité avec le Burkina , lorsque l' on se jette dans la gueule du loup et que cela entraîne la mort de 2 personnes ........
Je sais. 3 morts en fait si on ajoute l'assassinat de leur guide. Grand frisson pour leur super voyage de noces.
Pour ceux qui ne le connaissent pas, un super documentaire sur l'opération HK 35 menée en Afghanistan par les membres des commandos marine (là il s'agissait du commando Trepel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So0ffuOqsXo
Pas de soucis , tu attendra donc .
Voyager dans certaines contrées peut donc être dangereux ?
Même si nos deux inconscients ont eu EUX beaucoup de chance .
J'ignorais que les ex-otages pouvaient ainsi bénéficier de leur mésaventure. Dans le cas présent ce serait honteux. J'espère qu'ils porteront toute leur vie le poids de la culpabilité d'avoir provoqué la mort de trois personnes pour leur agrément futile. Le monde est assez vaste et beau pour ne pas prendre, mais surtout faire courir aux autres, des risques évitables et inutiles.
Certaines personnes sur les forums ventent ces destinations en minimisant les risques puisque ils y sont allés et en reviennent enchantés, il n' y a donc aucun problème, "il faut arreter de raconter n' importe quoi, arreter de prendre au serieux les informations du ministère des AE, beaucoup trop alarmiste " nous disent - il.
As tu déjà consulté le site du ministère des affaires étrangères pour les pays où tu es déjà allée? ( Madagascar Ethiopie Bolivie etc...)
N'y as-tu jamais lu quelques informations dissuasives pour les voyageur ?
Bonjour
Non , je n' ai jamais visitée une région du monde marqué en ROUGE sur le site du ministère des AE .
Madagascar en 2005 lors de mon dernier voyage était très fréquentable.
En Éthiopie nous avons attendu pour visiter le Dallol que la zone soit sécurisée et annulé
Notre voyage dans cette region en 2006 car trop limite , pour le Sud et la région d' Harar en 2007 il n' y avait aucun problème, ce qui n' est pas le cas en 2019 .
La Bolivie est en zone jaune comme les deux tiers du monde en 2019 .
Elle fut beaucoup plus dangeureuse dans les années 79/80 ( coup d' etat tous les 6 mois ou presque ) mais à cette époque là les renseignements manquaient , pas de renseignements des AE sur internet......
Tu peux également ajouter la Colombie ou les zones rouges suivent comme souvent le tracé des frontières donc on les évite ....
Après chacun fait ce qu'il veut , si certains choisissent de visiter des régions dites dangeureuses je ne comprend pas forcément mais après tout c' est leur problème.
Ce qui interpelle ce sont les conséquences pour autrui lorsque l' aventure tourne au cauchemar
Sur ce sujet tragique, comme trop souvent, les informations erronées circulent très vite, et de nouveaux éléments commencent à être diffusés. Extrait d'un article du Figaro, mis à jour il y a une heure et dont voici le lien :
Si l’on remonte six mois en arrière, au mois de novembre 2018, la carte du ministère était encore moins alarmiste. L’intégralité du parc était classée en zone jaune.
(...) La zone n’était donc pas, comme l’a affirmé le ministre, «considérée depuis déjà pas mal de temps comme une zone rouge».
Depuis ce samedi, le parc de la Pendjari est bien placé en rouge par le ministère, qui mentionne nommément le parc dans ses conseils: «En raison d’activités possibles de groupes armés et du risque d’enlèvement, il est formellement déconseillé de se rendre dans les zones frontalières du Burkina Faso, y compris les parcs nationaux de la Pendjari et du W, et les zones cynégétiques mitoyennes du parc de la Pendjari et de l’Atakora.»
Pour faire bref, au moment de leur départ, la région nécessitait une vigilance renforcée, sans doute les conditions dans lesquelles on pourrait partir au Népal, en Ethiopie, aux Philippines, si je me réfère aux pays pour lesquels vous êtes intervenue sur le forum. Egalement les conditions dans lesquelles je suis partie successivement en Iran ou au Sri Lanka sans m'inquiéter outre mesure.
En plus d'avoir vécu l'horreur, ils doivent désormais se confronter à la haine médiatique...
Bonjour
Je viens de lire attentivement l' article du Figaro que vous donnez en lien et effectivement c' est très détaillée 3 cartes .
La carte en ligne jusqu'au 10 mai montre que la majorité du Parc est en zone rouge et orange+ une partie en jaune et toute la région frontière avec le Burkina est en rouge : pas vraiment une région tranquille
Je ne vois pas le rapport entre la situation au NORD du Bénin et le Népal ou les îles du Nord des Philippines.
La situation locale n' est pas comparable , peut être dans le sud Philippin à Mindanao mais qui va Mindanao ?
Je suis bien d'accord avec vous pour moi Tous ceux qui dénigrent à bon compte les conseils des Affaires Étrangères, je les mets face à leurs responsabilités de voyageurs chanceux ou qui assument seulement quand tout va bien.
Ok mais bref le parc du W était en rouge et le parc de la Pendjari non. Selon ces infos du Figaro qui sont bien entendu à confirmer.
Cela relativise le proces en inconscience qui est fait à ces 2 gars. Mais bon l hallali médiatique est en cours et ils vont s en prendre plein la tronche.
On leur dit maintenant en sus qu'ils sont responsables de la mort du guide, j ai du mal a croire que le guide lui meme y a été contre son gré ou si il pensait a un risque élevé d autant que c est un guide extrêmement expérimenté et bien connu du Bénin.
J'espère qu'ils porteront toute leur vie le poids de la culpabilité d'avoir provoqué la mort de trois personnes pour leur agrément futile.
J'ai été marqué par un épisode de notre vie hexagonale il y a deux ans.
Un hiver anticyclonique où la pollution stagnait particulièrement, et on a annoncé des centaines de morts en France dues aux particules fines. Moi qui suis un observateur attentif de la circulation automobile, puisque j'ai l'habitude de marcher seul au bord de la route (dans beaucoup d'autres pays je ne serai pas seul dut tout), je me disais "cette fois ils vont réagir les automobilistes, ils vont trouver toutes ces morts insupportables et ils vont arrêter leur voiture".
Et bien non.... il n'y a pas eu un frémissement de diminution de la circulation pendant ces conditions anticycloniques. On en parlait tous les jours à la radio des centaines de victimes, mais rien, pas de réaction visible de la part des automobilistes.
Qui se sent coupable de ces centaines de victimes aujourd'hui ?
Pour moi c'est la même chose que des alpinistes qui sortent alors qu'il y a un risque d'avalanche maximum ou les plaisanciers qui sortent sous avis de tempête...
Ils doivent ensuite assumer le coût de leur irresponsabilité. Quand c'est rouge et qu'il est très fortement déconseillé d'y aller, il ne faut pas aller, ou alors assumer derrière.
Quand à leur guide, ce pauvre homme ne roulant pas sur l'homme n'a eu je le crains pas d'autre choix que de les y emmener...
Tout ceci est fort triste...
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Depuis quand les Français avaient-ils organisé leur déplacement ?
En novembre 2018, dans sa page "Conseils aux voyageurs", le ministère des Affaires étrangères ne classait aucune partie du parc national de la Pendjari en rouge, ni même en orange. "Une vigilance particulière est conseillée dans les zones frontalières", expliquait simplement le Quai d'Orsay. La carte, inchangée depuis 2015, avait commencé à changer de couleur en décembre 2018.
D autre part
Le MAJ se garde bien de classer notre beau pays en zone a risques... Il y a eu chez nous bien plus d attentats et de morts du au terrorisme qu au Benin ou si je ne m abuse ce sont les premiers.
Deux poids deux mesures.
Pourquoi ne deconseille t on pas aux touristes du monde entier de venir a Paris ???
Ce bashing de ces deux touristes me semble indecent et irrationnel.
Sur deux discussions que de mepris et que de haine.
C est de l hysterie.
J ai ete de celles qui disaient "Benin pays sur"... Je ne le regrette pas. Oui c etait vrai.
Qui peut dire ou aura lieu le prochain attentat ?
Au Senegal au marche de Mbour ? A Venise ? A Londres ? Aux Sables d Olonne ? A Nabeul ?
La faute a ? Aux meurtriers. A cette ideologie folle qui nous prive de notre liberte d aller et venir, prive les diverses populations de leur serenite et de leurs droits a jouir du spectacle du monde paisiblement. Qui prive aussi des populations de leurs gagne-pain.
En aucun cas la faute a ces deux personnes
Si j'ai bien suivi le raisonnement des journalistes, la zone n'était pas classée à risque en novembre 2018, soit 7 mois avant les faits. Et alors?
Deux poids deux mesures.
Pourquoi ne deconseille t on pas aux touristes du monde entier de venir a Paris ???
Ah, l'éternel relativisme... Comparaison ne vaut pas raison. C'est bien connu, à Paris, les touristes sont visés par des enlèvements et il faut envoyer les forces spéciales pour les libérer.
Ce bashing de ces deux touristes me semble indecent et irrationnel.
Peut-être. La question est plutôt de savoir pourquoi une telle opération de libération a été décidée. On le saura dans quelques mois ou quelques années. Ce qu'on sait déjà, c'est que l'accueil en grande pompe des ex otages à Villacoublay par le président et ses ministres a été gaché par la mort de 2 soldats.
Sur deux discussions que de mepris et que de haine.
C est de l hysterie.
L'histoire de la paille et de la poutre...
La faute a ? Aux meurtriers. A cette ideologie folle qui nous prive de notre liberte d aller et venir, prive les diverses populations de leur serenite et de leurs droits a jouir du spectacle du monde paisiblement. Qui prive aussi des populations de leurs gagne-pain.
Pas de soucis , tu attendra donc .
Voyager dans certaines contrées peut donc être dangereux ?
Même si nos deux inconscients ont eu EUX beaucoup de chance .
En réalité j'aime comparer les avis et conseils de diverses origines.
A titre de comparaison et d'information, je vous invite à lire la fiche que l'US department of State consacre au Bénin, elle est assez détaillée :
"Exercise normal precautions in Benin. Some areas have increased risk. Read the entire Travel Advisory.
Reconsider Travel To:
Park Pendjari, Park W and adjacent hunting zones due to terrorism and kidnapping.
Exercise Increased Caution In:
Urban areas due to crime.
Read the Safety and Security section on the Country Information page.
If you decide to travel to Benin:
Do not physically resist any robbery attempt.
Use caution when walking or driving at night.
Keep a low profile.
Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency.
Follow the Department of State on Facebook and Twitter.
Review the Crime and Safety Report for Benin.
U.S. citizens who travel abroad should always have a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler’s Checklist.
Park Pendjari, Park W and Adjacent Hunting Zones – Level 3: Reconsider Travel
Extremist groups have carried out attacks in areas of Burkina Faso adjacent to Benin’s northern border, near Parks Pendjari and W and adjacent hunting zones. Attacks may occur with little or no warning. Western tourists have been kidnapped in Park Pendjari, in northern Benin.
The U.S. government has limited ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in Benin’s northern border areas. U.S. government employees are prohibited from personal travel and must obtain special authorization for official travel to Parks Pendjari and W and all adjacent hunting zones.
Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.
Urban Areas – Level 2: Exercise Increased Caution
Violent crime, such as armed robbery and assault, is common.
Last Update: Reissued with update to Level 3 information and Risk Indicators."
Le Benin est donc globalement pour eux en niveau 1, avec les réserves que l'on lit.
La France est en niveau 2 ; un cran au dessus (Exercice increased caution)
Peut-être. La question est plutôt de savoir pourquoi une telle opération de libération a été décidée. On le saura dans quelques mois ou quelques années. Ce qu'on sait déjà, c'est que l'accueil en grande pompe des ex otages à Villacoublay par le président et ses ministres a été gaché par la mort de 2 soldats.
Dans les conversations de comptoir "on sait déjà" en général, donc là que Macron aurait décidé l'opération de sauvetage pour se faire de la pub ?
Sauf que nos deux commandos marines morts pour la France, sont avant tout morts pour la Françafrique, une nuance de taille... Personne ne relève que ce commando français donc étranger au pays a pu opérer en électron libre au sein d'un Etat souverain.
Pour ce qu' il en sera des touristes en mal de sensations exotiques, qu' ils aillent donc faire du trecking de nuit dans quelques cités de Seine-Saint-Denis, histoire de nous faire économiser un pognon de dingue...
Je ne vais pas surenchérir, ma première réaction a été de la colère contre ces touristes. Mais ça ne sert a rien d'accabler des gens pour une forme d'inconscience dont nous sommes tous capables un jour ou l'autre.
Mais quel rapport pour des randonneurs entre une réserve naturelle et la Seine-Saint-Denis ? 😐
Sauf que nos deux commandos marines morts pour la France, sont avant tout morts pour la Françafrique, une nuance de taille... Personne ne relève que ce commando français donc étranger au pays a pu opérer en électron libre au sein d'un Etat souverain.
Pour ce qu' il en sera des touristes en mal de sensations exotiques, qu' ils aillent donc faire du trecking de nuit dans quelques cités de Seine-Saint-Denis, histoire de nous faire économiser un pognon de dingue...
Je suis fort libéral et pour la liberté d'expression de chacun, mais je souhaite quand même préciser que le site que vous citez est une publication d'extrême droite nationaliste.
Histoire que chacun sache aussi lire entre les lignes.
Le Bénin est donc globalement pour eux en niveau 1, avec les réserves que l'on lit.
La France est en niveau 2 ; un cran au dessus (Exercice increased caution)
On s'en fiche de cette comparaison car ce sont bien des touristes français et l'armée française qui est intervenue.
Comparaison n'est pas raison...
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Je ne vais pas surenchérir, ma première réaction a été de la colère contre ces touristes. Mais ça ne sert a rien d'accabler des gens pour une forme d'inconscience dont nous sommes tous capables un jour ou l'autre.
Pour un voyage de noce il y a des destinations plus glamours. On savait les mariages avec "Elvis", en "casques de chantier" ou en "saut à l'élastique" maintenant il y a celui encore plus viril avec "Daesch et fusillers-marins".
Mais quel rapport pour des randonneurs entre une réserve naturelle et la Seine-Saint-Denis ? 😐
Un rapport très étroit... hormis que dans la seconde même les "commandos" n'osent plus y entrer...
Ah bon, vous pensez que ces touristes étaient là bas pour le risque avec les islamistes ?
A vrai dire je n'en sais rien, mais je m'ètais fait une autre idèe.
Je suis fort libéral et pour la liberté d'expression de chacun, mais je souhaite quand même préciser que le site que vous citez est une publication d'extrême droite nationaliste.
Histoire que chacun sache aussi lire entre les lignes.
Michel
J'ai bien compris que pour certains ce qui est important ce n'est pas ce qui est dit qui est important mais qui le dit. N'étant pas encore passé maître dans l'art divinatoire, pourriez préciser ce que lisez vous entre les lignes de l'article que je cite?😎
Je suis fort libéral et pour la liberté d'expression de chacun, mais je souhaite quand même préciser que le site que vous citez est une publication d'extrême droite nationaliste.
Histoire que chacun sache aussi lire entre les lignes.
Michel
Je suis fort libéral et pour la liberté d'expression de chacun, mais je souhaite quand même rappeler que le membre Tatra est le défenseur attitré du très démocratique et islamique Erdogan sur ce forum.
Histoire que chacun sache aussi lire entre les lignes de l'extrême-droite à géométrie variable.
A l'heure où tu as écrit cette réflexion, tu devais être bien fatiguée, tu avais déjà épuisé toutes tes habituelles ressources de bon sens, de cohérence.
Le connu et l'inconnu, le très probable et le hasard ce serait kif kif ?
J'ai bien compris que pour certains ce qui est important ce n'est pas ce qui est dit qui est important mais qui le dit. N'étant pas encore passé maître dans l'art divinatoire, pourriez préciser ce que lisez vous entre les lignes de l'article que je cite?😎
Rassurez-vous, je suis en total et profond désaccord avec ce qu'il écrit.
A l'heure où tu as écrit cette réflexion, tu devais être bien fatiguée, tu avais déjà épuisé toutes tes habituelles ressources de bon sens, de cohérence.
Le connu et l'inconnu, le très probable et le hasard ce serait kif kif ?
Il est facile de parler depuis un fauteuil. Va dans une ces regions, vas y plusieurs semaines ou mois. Vis avec la population prends ton temps, ecoute, et vois ensuite quelles sont les reponses que tu donnes a tes questions.
Sauf que nos deux commandos marines morts pour la France, sont avant tout morts pour la Françafrique, une nuance de taille... Personne ne relève que ce commando français donc étranger au pays a pu opérer en électron libre au sein d'un Etat souverain.
Pour ce qu' il en sera des touristes en mal de sensations exotiques, qu' ils aillent donc faire du trecking de nuit dans quelques cités de Seine-Saint-Denis, histoire de nous faire économiser un pognon de dingue...
Merci de nous faire profiter à nouveau de votre propagande d extrême droite...il y avait longtemps que vous n aviez pas cité ce’ torchon qu est boulevard voltaire....😒
L'article cité que je viens de lire est totalement déplacé.
Je comprends la polémique sur la question "doit on faire du tourisme à la Pendjari", mais les parallèles avec la question migratoire sont honteux.
Allons y, remontons à la colonisation. Qu'est qu'on est allés faire là bas?
Je ne sais pas si c'est possible de répondre sérieusement à ça.
Pour mémoire, en colonisant ces pays, nous avons inéluctablement lié notre sort et leur sort. Il faut maintenant voir ces liens comme autant de chances pour notre pays.
Respect pour nos soldats qui nous défendent partout sur la planète au péril de leur vie. Ils méritent mieux que ces considérations pathétiques.
R.
L'article cité que je viens de lire est totalement déplacé.
Je comprends la polémique sur la question "doit on faire du tourisme à la Pendjari", mais les parallèles avec la question migratoire sont honteux.
Allons y, remontons à la colonisation. Qu'est qu'on est allés faire là bas?
Je ne sais pas si c'est possible de répondre sérieusement à ça.
Pour mémoire, en colonisant ces pays, nous avons inéluctablement lié notre sort et leur sort. Il faut maintenant voir ces liens comme autant de chances pour notre pays.
Respect pour nos soldats qui nous défendent partout sur la planète au péril de leur vie. Ils méritent mieux que ces considérations pathétiques.
R.
Son constant n'est en rien pathétique, il est frappé de bon sens et de réalisme. S'il dit faux démontre le, plutôt que faire dans la posture outrée.
"Tout ça dans une Afrique à la perdition, aux élites trop souvent incompétentes et corrompues, où des États fabriqués par les colonisateurs se disloquent lentement et retournent aux guerres tribales d’antan, attisées par l’islam et alimentées par les trafics en tous genres, drogue et êtres humains y compris"
Merci de nous faire profiter à nouveau de votre propagande d extrême droite...il y avait longtemps que vous n aviez pas cité ce’ torchon qu est boulevard voltaire....😒
où est ton problème? ... Il use de sa liberté d'expression avec com à l'appui. Il ne ment pas et ne t'impose rien. Etre démocrate ce n'est pas être neutre, libre à toi ensuite de juger et de répondre.
Sur le coup toi et Tatra avez la muselière à la main.
Merci de nous faire profiter à nouveau de votre propagande d extrême droite...il y avait longtemps que vous n aviez pas cité ce’ torchon qu est boulevard voltaire....😒
où est ton problème? ... Il use de sa liberté d'expression avec com à l'appui. Il ne ment pas et ne t'impose rien. Etre démocrate ce n'est pas être neutre, libre à toi ensuite de juger et de répondre.
Sur le coup toi et Tatra avez la muselière à la main.
Voyage forum n est pas un outil de la propagande d extrême droite .... il peut nous donner son avis sur les risques inutiles pris par les touristes... pas en profiter pour nous balancer ses idées nauséabondes....
Quand l’emotion prime sur la raison ma bonne dame .....Ça donne un sacré cafouillage , des braves gens d’extrême droite en profitent pour revenir vendre leur torchon sur ce forum , d’autres crient haros sur ces deux gars , mais personne n’as un mot pour le guide , personne ne se demande comment ( sauf un) les forces armées ont réussis ce tour de force en quelques jours en électron libre comme dit plus haut . L’otage américain , pas un mot , Trump, avait oublié d’envoyer ses troupes ?
Quel barouf , les deux otages libérés en quelques jours d’une zone qui n’etait pas en rouge à leur départ et tout le beau monde émotionné leur tombe dessus sans chercher à comprendre ...
Pendant ce temps sophie Petronin est retenue en otage depuis trois ans et notre gouvernement se fend d’une pensée émue pour elle , encore de l’emotion .
Pas de forces armées pour la libérer ?
On assiste la a une curieuse operation de communication et de manipulation de l opinion.
Personne ne se dit "benin" comme on se disait Charlie.
Tt le.monde tombe sur ces deux gars a bras raccourcis, du fond des divans d ou nait, comme chacun sait, la pensee geopolitique la plus pertinente.
C est a pleurer.
Personne ne parle ni ne plaint le Benin. Personne ne parle plus de ce guide qui n avait rien d un inconscient j en temoigne.
Seuls les deux soldats sont dignes d hommages ....
Beurk la francafrique
Beurk l action de nos gouvernements dans ce pays et en afrique
Et beurk cette presse bien pourrave qui joue sur le tapis de billards des peurs des angoisses et d un discret et delicat fumet homophobe.
+1 .tout est dit .
Nous sommes au pays de Bisounours qui tète sa maman BFMTV et consorts ...
C’est vrai que le petit fumet homophobe est discret mais sacrément pourri .
Hannah,
L intervention pour libèrer les otages à eu lieu au BF. Les forces françaises bossent déjà avec le BF. ..
J apprends à l instant un attentat dans le nord du BF, contre une église, 6 morts pour le moment.
Font chier...
Je suis au Sénégal et il y aura peut être aussi des problèmes à venir qui iront de paire avec la religion et l ouverture très bientôt au pétrole.
Bonsoir
Je suis d accord avec l ensemble. Mais concernant Sophie Petronin, je ne vois pas le rapport. Tout le monde sait que la discrétion est le meilleur ami de ce type de situation... En outre je suis certain que mme Petronin savait ou elle allait et dans quelles conditions et je ne trouve pas très digne de la part de son fils de s en prendre au gouvernement.
Pas digne du tt même
Beurk la francafrique
Beurk l action de nos gouvernements dans ce pays et en afrique
Et beurk cette presse bien pourrave qui joue sur le tapis de billards des peurs des angoisses
.. et beurk l'islam!! sinon il manque l'acteur principal de ce pot pourri.
et d un discret et delicat fumet homophobe.
Alors là je t'arrête tout de suite camarade. S'il avait été question d'un couple de jeunes mariés homme/femme, le couplet sur leur choix de faire un voyage de noce dans une région perdue du Bénin aurait été seriné sur tous les tons et octaves. A conneries égales, traitement équivalent.
Le contraire du " bonheur homosexuel" lorsqu'il vire au cauchemar n'est pas l'homophobie.
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Hello everyone on this forum!
I know in advance that what I'm about to say here won't please everyone, but honesty is a virtue, isn't it?
Here's the thing: for many years now, I've noticed a habit in French-speaking posts of using abbreviations left and right, as if to show that we're "in the know." Let me explain with a few examples:
- - In discussions about Peru, I see "Aguas" for "Aguas Calientes." And if it's Mexico, well, it'll be "Aguas" for "Aguascalientes"!
- - For Guatemala, "travelers" will say "Guaté." Come on, saying "Guatemalas" would maybe be the undeniable sign that you know nothing about the country???
- - Back from Indonesia, many will talk about how familiar they've become with the country's language: "bahasa." Of course, everyone will know what you're talking about, but it still gets on my nerves because the language (one of the many languages) of Indonesia is "bahasa Indonesia." "Bahasa" actually means "language," and you'll find this word of Indian origin ‘Bhāṣā’ (it's Sanskrit originally) outside Indonesia too: in Thailand, for example, any language will be "phasa" as in "phasa thai" (official Thai), "phasa isan" (what's spoken in northeastern Thailand), "phasa angkrit" = English, etc.
Am I an incorrigible nitpicker? Maybe. But I'd also find it ridiculous if a foreigner came and told me they visited "Monte" during their trip to France, when it was actually Monte Carlo.
I read a lot in English and don't think I've encountered such a habit among English speakers.
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines?
For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL.
THANKS GUYS
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course...
He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright,
Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.")
Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either.
But here’s the thing—I had photos...
So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand.
It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years.
For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not...
It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.)
Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate.
And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries.
Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story.
Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023.
This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers.
As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart.
Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library.
I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott.
After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel.
My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*.
This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year!
This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others?
What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille?
Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit?
Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana?
Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate?
Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed.
Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project.
A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question.
They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕
Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.).
Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did.
I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights
Sidemen (2 nights)
Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights
Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed
Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran
Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights
Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD:
- Walk around central Ubud (1–2h)
- Campuhan Ridge Walk
- Tegalalang Rice Terrace
- Tirta Empul
- Gunung Kawi
- Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN:
- Rice terrace hike (2–3h)
- Cooking class
IN AMED:
- Snorkeling
- Japanese Shipwreck
- Beach + relaxation
- Volcano sunset
ON GILI:
- Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK:
- Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall
- Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level)
- Ulun Danu Bratan Temple
- Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN
- Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well:
👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option
12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM)
1 PM: ferry
3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer
11 PM: start ascent
2 AM–6 AM: volcano
Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM)
👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency
💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR:
- Relaxation
- Quiet beach
- Proximity to airport (30 min)"
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays
where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya).
There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see:
Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees.
We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain.
But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore.
A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night
Coron – 4 nights
Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights
El Nido – 4 nights
Port Barton – 5 nights
Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan
Vigan – 2 nights
Sagada – 2 nights
Banaue – 2 nights
Bagabag – 1 night
Manila – 1 night
I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages.
3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer.
Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place.
On the main routes, we visited:
San José
Alajuela
Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side)
Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side)
And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched.
He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown.
What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor.
At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José:
It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken.
On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox.
From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire.
Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets.
Bars with security guards out front.
I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel.
The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses.
The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in.
A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park.
Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further.
We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it.
A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces.
A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures.
But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business.
Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse!
According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable.
Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos.
A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park!
A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park.
The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color.
Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded!
Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30.
The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches.
As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves.
A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!"
For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex!
The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for?
For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places.
In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs:
Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you.
For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example.
For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk.
The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border.
The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times.
Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot).
For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border.
You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes.
From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??).
With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!!
For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations.
However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards.
Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future.
After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think:
1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport),
1 night in Garda,
1 night in Verona,
1 in Padua, and
3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year.
I told her:
“Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.”
“But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.”
I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk.
“Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.”
I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen.
“Mamido, I did it!”
My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no!
“Congratulations, sweetheart!”
A little shyly, she said:
“Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying:
“Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint!
But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out.
Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me.
But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back.
My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special?
That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.