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Birmanie, Laos ou Vietnam (depuis Xishuangbanna)?
by Johnwatine
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, nous avons dix jours et nous aimerions aller dans un de ces trois pays à partir de Xishuangbanna, mais ou?
Dix jours c'est peu donc nous resterions dans le nord d'un de ces pays je suppose, nous voyagerions en train ou en bus.
Merci beaucoup
John
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allez, encore un à qui il faut dire ce qu'il doit faire... sans rien connaitre ni de ses gouts, ni de ses envies, ni de ses attentes, etc.
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allez, encore un à qui il faut dire ce qu'il doit faire... sans rien connaitre ni de ses goûts, ni de ses envies, ni de ses attentes, etc.
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Quand je vois le genre de message que tu postes, les réponses super sympas sont un peu ta marque de fabrique non?
J'ai bien compris que le but de ce forum n'était pas de ce se faire des voyages clés en main par les autres mais bien de pouvoir se donner une idée sur quoi faire conseillé des gens qui répondent en parlant sur leur expérience personnelle.
Quand je vois le genre de message que tu postes, les réponses super sympas sont un peu ta marque de fabrique non?
J'ai bien compris que le but de ce forum n'était pas de ce se faire des voyages clés en main par les autres mais bien de pouvoir se donner une idée sur quoi faire conseillé des gens qui répondent en parlant sur leur expérience personnelle.
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http://perjalanan.over-blog.com
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Bon ben je conseille le vietnam, parce que j'ai trouvé ça beau.
mais le laos aussi.
la birmanie aussi est jolie.
mais le plus, c'est le vietnam.
mais le plus, c'est le vietnam.
Si l'idée est de traverser une frontière terrestre, celle entre la Chine et la Birmanie n'est ouverte aux touristes qu'avec des conditions spécifiques et restrictives.
Par rapport à Xishuangbanna, quel pays est le plus pratique à atteindre?
Par rapport à Xishuangbanna, quel pays est le plus pratique à atteindre?
Bonjour,
Le plus facile et le plus proche est bien sûr le nord du LAOS. Le visa LAO s'obtient très facilement à la frontière. Un bus part tous les jours de JINGHONG pour LUANG NAMTHA (environ 5 heures). A LUANG NAMTHA, tu peux louer vélo/scooter. Cela commence à être bien fréquenté par les touristes. De nombreuses agences organisent des treks dans les villages des hill tribes. Tu peux faire une virée de plusieurs jours à partir de muangsing.
Si tu en veux plus, tu me contactes, je connais bien cette région contrairement à un certain intervenant qui n'a jamais mis les pieds dans ces pays et qui se permet de faire des commentaires genre : c'est beau !!!!!!
Le plus facile et le plus proche est bien sûr le nord du LAOS. Le visa LAO s'obtient très facilement à la frontière. Un bus part tous les jours de JINGHONG pour LUANG NAMTHA (environ 5 heures). A LUANG NAMTHA, tu peux louer vélo/scooter. Cela commence à être bien fréquenté par les touristes. De nombreuses agences organisent des treks dans les villages des hill tribes. Tu peux faire une virée de plusieurs jours à partir de muangsing.
Si tu en veux plus, tu me contactes, je connais bien cette région contrairement à un certain intervenant qui n'a jamais mis les pieds dans ces pays et qui se permet de faire des commentaires genre : c'est beau !!!!!!
Tes commentaires sont toujours aussi affutés .....
Entre c'est joli et c'est beau, je ne vois pas la plus value de ton intervention. Saches que du XISHUANGBANNA jusqu'à HEKOU (frontière chinoise avec le vietnam), tu as 3 bus à prendre en passant par JIANSHUI/NAMSHA (20 heures de bus) ou tu passes par KUNMING (18 heures sans compter la correspondance).
Un petit conseil, tu devrais remplir ton profil....tu dois avoir pas mal d'expériences à nous faire partager, non
Dans le cas contraire, abstiens toi. A bon entendeur salut
Entre c'est joli et c'est beau, je ne vois pas la plus value de ton intervention. Saches que du XISHUANGBANNA jusqu'à HEKOU (frontière chinoise avec le vietnam), tu as 3 bus à prendre en passant par JIANSHUI/NAMSHA (20 heures de bus) ou tu passes par KUNMING (18 heures sans compter la correspondance).
Un petit conseil, tu devrais remplir ton profil....tu dois avoir pas mal d'expériences à nous faire partager, non
Dans le cas contraire, abstiens toi. A bon entendeur salut
Allez hop au Laos! On veut pas de vous en Birmanie 😛
Si vous voulez venir un jour au Myanmar, le mieux reste l'avion. Depuis Kunming il y a des vols réguliers opérés par China Eastern Airlines et China Airlines (Sauf les Lundi et Venredi pour cette compagnie). MAis du coup plus cher que le trajet en bus.
Bon voyage!
Si vous voulez venir un jour au Myanmar, le mieux reste l'avion. Depuis Kunming il y a des vols réguliers opérés par China Eastern Airlines et China Airlines (Sauf les Lundi et Venredi pour cette compagnie). MAis du coup plus cher que le trajet en bus.
Bon voyage!
Merci pour vos réponses,
Nous allons finalement nous diriger vers le Nord du Vietnam et Sapa. En effet, nous partons finalement de Yuxi au lieu de Xishuangbanna.
Petit compte rendu au retour après le Nouvel An Chinois
Je garde définitivement vos contacts pour un voyage ultérieur vers le nord du Laos et Birmanie.
Bon voyage.
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Bon, voilà, vous avez choisi, tout seul, comme un grand😛.
Vous visez SAPA sans doute parce que vous arriverez par là (?), mais élargissez votre périmètre, le Nord Est mériterez votre visite, je pense en particulier à Ha Giang, Dong Van et au col du Ma Pi Leng (nez du cheval) vous verrez c'est époustouflant!
Depuis peu Sapa est reliée à la capitale par une autoroute...😕 Il reste cependant encore quelques bons coins à faire, Larsay en est un spécialiste, vous trouverez des "idées" en visitant ses posts.
Si vous devez descendre par Hanoï pour poursuivre votre voyage, de grace, évitez le train ou le car, prenez la belle route des photographes (Sapa, Mu Cang Chai, Nghia Lo et ses rizières classées) vous ne le regretterez pas.
Et bien entendu, nous attendons vos retours avec impatience.
Bon voyage!
Vous visez SAPA sans doute parce que vous arriverez par là (?), mais élargissez votre périmètre, le Nord Est mériterez votre visite, je pense en particulier à Ha Giang, Dong Van et au col du Ma Pi Leng (nez du cheval) vous verrez c'est époustouflant!
Depuis peu Sapa est reliée à la capitale par une autoroute...😕 Il reste cependant encore quelques bons coins à faire, Larsay en est un spécialiste, vous trouverez des "idées" en visitant ses posts.
Si vous devez descendre par Hanoï pour poursuivre votre voyage, de grace, évitez le train ou le car, prenez la belle route des photographes (Sapa, Mu Cang Chai, Nghia Lo et ses rizières classées) vous ne le regretterez pas.
Et bien entendu, nous attendons vos retours avec impatience.
Bon voyage!
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Bonjour Camille
Pour un itinéraire terrestre, passer la frontière Birmanie/Thaïlande à TACHILEK côté Birman puis rejoindre LUANG NAMTHA au Laos via CHIANG RAI.
Voir à CHIANG RAI si MINIVAN/bus pour LUANG NAMTHA ????
De LUANG NAMTHA rejoindre OUDOMXHAY toujours au LAOS (3 heures de bus) puis Bus de OUDOMXHAY à DIEN BIEN PHU via MUANG KHUA .
Bon voyage
Bon voyage
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Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!






