Itinéraire Namibie - Botwana (suite) une hypothèse
by Alexxandra
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je reviens vers vous après avoir "travaillé d'arrache pied !" grâce à vos réponses !
j'ai encore quelques questions ! ha ! l'indécision!
Voilà ce que ça donne
- 20/7 au matin arrivée Windheck , prise en main du 4x4 avec tente sur le toit , direction Mariental 1ere nuit en lodge
- 21 : vers Keemanshop forest quiver tree forest : ballade à pied au coucher de soleil !
- 22 :Fish river canyon camping à ais -ais
- 23 : Aus camping à Klein vista Aus
- 24 : Luderitz visite nuit en lodge
- 25 : Koiimasis camping
- 26 : koiimasis ballades à pied
- 27 et 28 : Sesriem et Sossusvlei camping à Sesriem
- 29 Naukluft camping Homeb
- 3o : Walvis bay lodge kleinest nest ?
- 31 : Swakpmund lodge Fish reiher guesthouse ?
- 1 aout : Spitzkoppe arret à Cap Cross camping spitzkoppe
- 2 aout : Ballades / rando à Spitzkoppe ""
- 3 :Twyfelfontein visite des peintures rupestres, montagne brulée ..la dame blanche ?combien de marche pour y arriver ? est ce possible de faire tout ça dans la journée?
- 4 :Palmwag ( camping palm lodge
- 5 : Etosha camping Okankuejo ( combien de temps pour y arriver ?)
- 6 : Etosha Hallali
- 7 : EtoshaNamutoni ( Y a til assez de temps à Etosha ? )
- 8: rundu Camping N' Kwazi lodge
- 9 :Bagani Nunda safari lodge camping park Mahongo Est ce que je fais bien d'éviter Shakawe, il parait qu'à cet endroit, la rivière a de nombreux bras et on peut faire de belle ballades en bateau ???
- 10 : Kongola Namushasha , nature drive ,
- 11 : Kasane nuit en lodge
_ 12 :Visite du parc chobe Nuit à Iaha ? ou retour à Kasane ?
A partir de la ... des questions pour le 13 et 14
Faire un tour à kubu island en partant pres de Nata pour passer la nuit sur l'ile? aller directement à planet Baobab ?
le 15 : Maun et entrée dan le parc Moremi ? ou de préférence ?
16 et 17 parc Moremi Mais quoi ? comment ? ou ? et éviter de payer des sommes importantes pour des tours organisés
18 direction Ghanzi
19 Kalahari
20 Windhoek ! départ le 21 ! on ne sait jamais !
Si vous connaissez sur ce parcours des endroits chouettes et pas chers pour un lodge ( un peu de confort quoi !) je suis preneuse
N'est ce pas trop speed ? faut il plutôt zapper quelque part et s'arrêter plus ailleurs ? C'est très difficile de décider sur papier !! merci encore à tous pour votre aide précieuse !
Bonjour !
Quelques commentaires alors…
- 22 :Fish river canyon camping à ais -ais Je ne connais pas encore le Fish River Canyon, mais plutôt Hobas pour camper, non ? Avis à ceux qui connaissent. Moi ce sera seulement en avril.
- 27 et 28 : Sesriem et Sossusvlei camping à Sesriem - 29 Naukluft camping Homeb Si jamais tu voulais gagner du temps quelque part, il pourrait y avoir une nuit à récupérer ici…
- 1 aout : Spitzkoppe arret à Cap Cross camping spitzkoppe - 2 aout : Ballades / rando à Spitzkoppe " Spitzkoppe est très sympa. Mais de là à y passer 2 nuits ? Je passerais la 2ème à Brandberg pour couper la route jusqu'à Twyfelfontein.
- 3 :Twyfelfontein visite des peintures rupestres, montagne brulée ..la dame blanche ?combien de marche pour y arriver ? est ce possible de faire tout ça dans la journée? Faisable dans la journée en partant de Brandberg le matin. Sinon une bonne partie de la journée sur la route. Organ Pies, c'est un petit tour. Burnt Mountain, c'est assez bidon…
- 5 : Etosha camping Okankuejo ( combien de temps pour y arriver ?) Palmwag / Okaukuejo, pas loin de 5 h de route.
- 6 : Etosha Hallali - 7 : EtoshaNamutoni ( Y a til assez de temps à Etosha ? ) À mon sens oui surtout que tu vas dans les parcs au Botswana après !
- 9 :Bagani Nunda safari lodge camping park Mahongo Est ce que je fais bien d'éviter Shakawe, il parait qu'à cet endroit, la rivière a de nombreux bras et on peut faire de belle ballades en bateau ??? On fait aussi de belles balades en bateau côté Namibie. Pas vraiment la peine d'aller passer la frontière ici.
- 12 :Visite du parc chobe Nuit à Ihaha ? ou retour à Kasane ? S'il est encore temps pour la réservation : oui ! Nuit à Ihaha !
A partir de la ... des questions pour le 13 et 14 Faire un tour à kubu island en partant pres de Nata pour passer la nuit sur l'ile? aller directement à planet Baobab ? Je pense que vu la route à faire, entre Khubu Island et Planet Baobab, c'estr l'un ou l'autre, il faut choisir. À moins que tu récupères ici une nuit gagnée plus tôt, à Sesriem par exemple.
le 15 : Maun et entrée dan le parc Moremi ? ou de préférence ? De Maun, tu rentres forcément par South Gate. Tu peux sans doute passer la nuit à Kaziikini quelques kms avant.
16 et 17 parc Moremi Mais quoi ? comment ? ou ? et éviter de payer des sommes importantes pour des tours organisés Je ne connais pas votre niveau d'adaptation au camping dans la nature sauvage, ni votre expérience de la conduite d'un 4x4, mais rejoindre 3rd Bridge ou Xakanaxa depuis South Gate, c'est le moyen le plus simple d'aborder Moremi sans guide. Je dirais 2 nuits dans l'un ou l'autre camp. Pour moins de sauvagerie : 2 nuits à Kaziikini avec game-drive organisé à la journée et guide.
18 direction Ghanzi 19 Kalahari 20 Windhoek ! départ le 21 ! on ne sait jamais ! OK 3 jours pour le retour sur Windhoek, avec un jour de sécurité. Tranquille !
Bonnes cogitations…
Quelques commentaires alors…
- 22 :Fish river canyon camping à ais -ais Je ne connais pas encore le Fish River Canyon, mais plutôt Hobas pour camper, non ? Avis à ceux qui connaissent. Moi ce sera seulement en avril.
- 27 et 28 : Sesriem et Sossusvlei camping à Sesriem - 29 Naukluft camping Homeb Si jamais tu voulais gagner du temps quelque part, il pourrait y avoir une nuit à récupérer ici…
- 1 aout : Spitzkoppe arret à Cap Cross camping spitzkoppe - 2 aout : Ballades / rando à Spitzkoppe " Spitzkoppe est très sympa. Mais de là à y passer 2 nuits ? Je passerais la 2ème à Brandberg pour couper la route jusqu'à Twyfelfontein.
- 3 :Twyfelfontein visite des peintures rupestres, montagne brulée ..la dame blanche ?combien de marche pour y arriver ? est ce possible de faire tout ça dans la journée? Faisable dans la journée en partant de Brandberg le matin. Sinon une bonne partie de la journée sur la route. Organ Pies, c'est un petit tour. Burnt Mountain, c'est assez bidon…
- 5 : Etosha camping Okankuejo ( combien de temps pour y arriver ?) Palmwag / Okaukuejo, pas loin de 5 h de route.
- 6 : Etosha Hallali - 7 : EtoshaNamutoni ( Y a til assez de temps à Etosha ? ) À mon sens oui surtout que tu vas dans les parcs au Botswana après !
- 9 :Bagani Nunda safari lodge camping park Mahongo Est ce que je fais bien d'éviter Shakawe, il parait qu'à cet endroit, la rivière a de nombreux bras et on peut faire de belle ballades en bateau ??? On fait aussi de belles balades en bateau côté Namibie. Pas vraiment la peine d'aller passer la frontière ici.
- 12 :Visite du parc chobe Nuit à Ihaha ? ou retour à Kasane ? S'il est encore temps pour la réservation : oui ! Nuit à Ihaha !
A partir de la ... des questions pour le 13 et 14 Faire un tour à kubu island en partant pres de Nata pour passer la nuit sur l'ile? aller directement à planet Baobab ? Je pense que vu la route à faire, entre Khubu Island et Planet Baobab, c'estr l'un ou l'autre, il faut choisir. À moins que tu récupères ici une nuit gagnée plus tôt, à Sesriem par exemple.
le 15 : Maun et entrée dan le parc Moremi ? ou de préférence ? De Maun, tu rentres forcément par South Gate. Tu peux sans doute passer la nuit à Kaziikini quelques kms avant.
16 et 17 parc Moremi Mais quoi ? comment ? ou ? et éviter de payer des sommes importantes pour des tours organisés Je ne connais pas votre niveau d'adaptation au camping dans la nature sauvage, ni votre expérience de la conduite d'un 4x4, mais rejoindre 3rd Bridge ou Xakanaxa depuis South Gate, c'est le moyen le plus simple d'aborder Moremi sans guide. Je dirais 2 nuits dans l'un ou l'autre camp. Pour moins de sauvagerie : 2 nuits à Kaziikini avec game-drive organisé à la journée et guide.
18 direction Ghanzi 19 Kalahari 20 Windhoek ! départ le 21 ! on ne sait jamais ! OK 3 jours pour le retour sur Windhoek, avec un jour de sécurité. Tranquille !
Bonnes cogitations…
OUi, elle est repassée par là 😉
Moi je m'instruis.
Loïc
Moi je m'instruis.
Loïc
Carnet : Retour en Namibie : août 2011
Bonjour,
je viens de regarder ce programme avec beaucoup d'attention, et effectivement il semble parfait !
Quel retour du terrain ?
Nous repartons en octobre, ma femme et moi, pour la nième fois en Afrique Australe et nous faisons cette fois la boucle suivante :
Windhoek Okaukuejo Namutoni Rundu Mahango Kwango Kasane Chobe (Ihaha) Savuti Moremi Maun Ghanzi et retour via Gobabis.
le tout en 3 semaines.
Nous ne connaissons pas les réserves de la bande de Caprivi (Mahango et Kwango) et sommes assez impatients de les découvrir .....
Si vous avez des conseils ou des commentaires particuliers ?
je viens de regarder ce programme avec beaucoup d'attention, et effectivement il semble parfait !
Quel retour du terrain ?
Nous repartons en octobre, ma femme et moi, pour la nième fois en Afrique Australe et nous faisons cette fois la boucle suivante :
Windhoek Okaukuejo Namutoni Rundu Mahango Kwango Kasane Chobe (Ihaha) Savuti Moremi Maun Ghanzi et retour via Gobabis.
le tout en 3 semaines.
Nous ne connaissons pas les réserves de la bande de Caprivi (Mahango et Kwango) et sommes assez impatients de les découvrir .....
Si vous avez des conseils ou des commentaires particuliers ?
Christian G.
Salut,
Nous ne connaissons pas les réserves de la bande de Caprivi (Mahango et Kwango) et sommes assez impatients de les découvrir .....
Je connais Mahango. C'est une toute petite réserve dans laquelle vous verrez des hippotragues, des buffles et éléphants. en venant de Chobe, c'est un peu décevant mais dans le sens où vous allez, ça colle. Le parc est divisé en 2 par une piste principale qui relie le poste frontière. La partie Est est assez dégagée praticable en 2x4, la partie ouest est broussailleuse et nécessite un 4x4 avec une haute garde au sol.Le reste des parcs au Botswana nécessite des connaissances de conduite 4x4. (pistes sablonneuses)
Nous ne connaissons pas les réserves de la bande de Caprivi (Mahango et Kwango) et sommes assez impatients de les découvrir .....
Je connais Mahango. C'est une toute petite réserve dans laquelle vous verrez des hippotragues, des buffles et éléphants. en venant de Chobe, c'est un peu décevant mais dans le sens où vous allez, ça colle. Le parc est divisé en 2 par une piste principale qui relie le poste frontière. La partie Est est assez dégagée praticable en 2x4, la partie ouest est broussailleuse et nécessite un 4x4 avec une haute garde au sol.Le reste des parcs au Botswana nécessite des connaissances de conduite 4x4. (pistes sablonneuses)
Salut,
Nous ne connaissons pas les réserves de la bande de Caprivi (Mahango et Kwango) et sommes assez impatients de les découvrir .....
Je connais Mahango. C'est une toute petite réserve dans laquelle vous verrez des hippotragues, des buffles et éléphants. en venant de Chobe, c'est un peu décevant mais dans le sens où vous allez, ça colle. Le parc est divisé en 2 par une piste principale qui relie le poste frontière. La partie Est est assez dégagée praticable en 2x4, la partie ouest est broussailleuse et nécessite un 4x4 avec une haute garde au sol.Le reste des parcs au Botswana nécessite des connaissances de conduite 4x4. (pistes sablonneuses)
Merci !
oui, coté pistes sablonneuse nous avons effectivement déjà donné en particulier de Moremi à Savuti. Mais je préfère encore le sable à des pistes inondées !
Il semble qu'il y ait une possibilité de rejoindre la nouvelle transit road toute neuve assez vite ?
Nous ne connaissons pas les réserves de la bande de Caprivi (Mahango et Kwango) et sommes assez impatients de les découvrir .....
Je connais Mahango. C'est une toute petite réserve dans laquelle vous verrez des hippotragues, des buffles et éléphants. en venant de Chobe, c'est un peu décevant mais dans le sens où vous allez, ça colle. Le parc est divisé en 2 par une piste principale qui relie le poste frontière. La partie Est est assez dégagée praticable en 2x4, la partie ouest est broussailleuse et nécessite un 4x4 avec une haute garde au sol.Le reste des parcs au Botswana nécessite des connaissances de conduite 4x4. (pistes sablonneuses)
Merci !
oui, coté pistes sablonneuse nous avons effectivement déjà donné en particulier de Moremi à Savuti. Mais je préfère encore le sable à des pistes inondées !
Il semble qu'il y ait une possibilité de rejoindre la nouvelle transit road toute neuve assez vite ?
Christian G.
Salut,
Beau voyage en perspective.
Qu'appelles-tu Kwango ? La Kwando River je suppose ? Celle aux trois noms qui devient ensuite Lynianti, puis Chobe…
Kwando, n'est pas un parc en soi mais une section du grand parc du Caprivi s'appelle maintenant Bwabwata NP et est divisé en plusieurs secteurs dont aussi Mahango où tout le bord de rivière a été réaménagé en gravel road très roulante. Pratique pour circuler, mais moins de charme à mon goût. On y a observé surtout des tas de différentes antilopes le mois dernier. Des traces d'éléphants, mais on ne les a pas vus. Le point d'eau de la route Ouest un peu à l'intérieur serait détruit donc pas grand chose à y voir il paraît.
Ensuite, il y a les deux autres parcs plus méconnus, très sauvages, quasi déserts, Mudumu et Mamili (qui a d'ailleurs changé de nom pour Nkasa Lupala NP).
Mudumu : une seule route, en bord de rivière, beaucoup d'éléphants.
Nkasa Lupala : redevenu praticable avec la construction de deux ponts métalliques (avant les deux ponts, un gué de 80/90 cm sans problème ou un pont en rondins pas très inspirant à franchir). Ensuite, 17 km de piste jusqu'au poste des rangers. Un parc superbe qui rappelle beaucoup l'autre rive, côté Botswana. Pas mal de belles pistes à sillonner en game drive. Beaucoup de très beaux lagons. On y a entendu les lions tout près de notre camp (Rupara Community Campsite, super !) la nuit, mais on ne les a pas vus…
Passé par là il y a 2 semaines sans aucune résa… 🙂
Merci Pierre de ta réponse aussi précise !
Oui, il s'agit bien de Kwando et non de ce que j'avais écrit.
Nous avons prévu d'y passer 3 jours, en camping (tente de toit) au Camp Kwando et de sillonner (si on peut !) les réserves de Mudumu et Mamilli. D'ailleurs à ce propos j'ai recherché ton camping su Google mais sans succès !
Nous avons prévu d'arriver à Windhoek le 14 octobre au petit matin et de repartir le 4 novembre. Nous passerons un peu de temps à Etosha parce nous aimons bien, et beaucoup de temps entre Chobe, Savuti et Moremi.
Pour le moment, je me bats avec les billets d'avion .......
Oui, il s'agit bien de Kwando et non de ce que j'avais écrit.
Nous avons prévu d'y passer 3 jours, en camping (tente de toit) au Camp Kwando et de sillonner (si on peut !) les réserves de Mudumu et Mamilli. D'ailleurs à ce propos j'ai recherché ton camping su Google mais sans succès !
Nous avons prévu d'arriver à Windhoek le 14 octobre au petit matin et de repartir le 4 novembre. Nous passerons un peu de temps à Etosha parce nous aimons bien, et beaucoup de temps entre Chobe, Savuti et Moremi.
Pour le moment, je me bats avec les billets d'avion .......
Christian G.
bonjour,
je suis actuellement a kongola, dans un camping namamushi genial, je vous repondrai en rentrant , fin aout renvoyez moi un messagee fin aout
pour l instant , cest que du bonheur !
le 4x4 d african tracks n est pas genial mais il faut esperer qu il arrivera
a bientot
Lors de notre dernier séjour au Botswana, nous avions eu plein de soucis avec African Tracks ..... RV manqués, retards, etc .... J'espère que votre 4X4 va tenir le coup !
Vous allez vers Kasane ou vous en revenez ? Les pistes des deux "petites" réserves (Mudumu et Mamili) vers Kongola sont elles bonnes ?
Profitez en bien ! La chaleur vient d'arriver en France ......
Vous allez vers Kasane ou vous en revenez ? Les pistes des deux "petites" réserves (Mudumu et Mamili) vers Kongola sont elles bonnes ?
Profitez en bien ! La chaleur vient d'arriver en France ......
Christian G.
Bonjour,
Je viens juste de rentrer d'un tour "express" en Namibie/Botswana. La Kwando River est un des coins qui m'a le plus plu. Vous y avez le côté terre (genre Chobe) et le côté roseaux papyrus comme le delta.
On a fait un secteur qui s'appelle "Susuwe Triangle" ça a été un de nos endroits préféré, sauvage, mais où on voit aussi des animaux. On logeait au Mazambala Island, très bien.
Mahango était aussi bien mais petit, on y a passé deux fois 1h / 1h30.
Après un petit tour vers le début du delta de l'Okavango est également très bien.
Bref il y a de quoi se faire plaisir dans la bande de Caprivi 🙂🙂.
Etosha le secteur d'Okaukuejo était plus fourni en animaux et un peu moins fréquenté, mais c'était peut-être le hasard
bonne préparation
Max
Je viens juste de rentrer d'un tour "express" en Namibie/Botswana. La Kwando River est un des coins qui m'a le plus plu. Vous y avez le côté terre (genre Chobe) et le côté roseaux papyrus comme le delta.
On a fait un secteur qui s'appelle "Susuwe Triangle" ça a été un de nos endroits préféré, sauvage, mais où on voit aussi des animaux. On logeait au Mazambala Island, très bien.
Mahango était aussi bien mais petit, on y a passé deux fois 1h / 1h30.
Après un petit tour vers le début du delta de l'Okavango est également très bien.
Bref il y a de quoi se faire plaisir dans la bande de Caprivi 🙂🙂.
Etosha le secteur d'Okaukuejo était plus fourni en animaux et un peu moins fréquenté, mais c'était peut-être le hasard
bonne préparation
Max
Bonjour,
Comme promis, un petit retour du voyage !
Nous avons fini par arriver, avec la voiture qui s'ouvrait avec un tourne vis , les pneus fuyaient depuis le départ, l'équipement complètement épuisé et j' en passe ! je ne conseille pas african tracks, c'est sûr !
enfin, pour le voyage, c'est une merveille !
Nous avons passé 3 nuits à Etosha, okaukuejo, halali et Namamuti, et nous ne le regrettons pas ! C'est vraiment le plus beau parc que l'on ait vu, énormément d'animaux, des paysages de pan magnifiques. Les 2 derniers campings sont les plus sympas, bien que, bien sur, les places soient un peu tassées dans ces parcs! La fréquentation y est supportable, même en plein été Trois jours , ça me parait le minimum pour visiter ce parc .Le parc de Mahongo est sympa mais tout petit Chobe est intéressant aussi , au bord de la rivière, une autre faune . Un tour en bateau (petit , demander "Charles" ) en fin d’après midi, départ 15h retour 18h au soleil couchant, c'est vraiment un autre point de vue ! Nous avons vu des éléphants nager !
Pour Maun et Moremi, déception .. Cette année, il y avait beaucoup d'eau dans le delta, beaucoup de pistes étaient impraticables, il y avait finalement peu d'animaux en comparaison avec etosha ou Chobe, sauf les éléphants . Par contre, je conseille un tour en petit avion a partir de Maun, tôt le matin ou le soir vers 16h30, c'est une pure merveille et cela permet de comprendre bien la topographie du lieu .
Nous sommes allés à Lekubu island, par la piste à 20 km de Nata et retour par une autre piste à Gweta Avec un GPS, aucun problème, ! en aout, tout était sec ; En octobre, je ne sais pas, il vaut mieux se renseigner sur l'état des pistes dans le pan ça peut devenir une galère . En tout cas, si vous pouvez le faire, c'est magnifique et dormir une nuit au camping de l'île ( pas de sanitaires ni d'eau )
Dans certains endroits, des activités de visite de" village traditionnel "sont proposées ( ex zelda guest farm) bushmen ou Himba par exemple, nous avons trouvé que ce genre de zoo est humainement honteux et inacceptable ! il y a même des lodges pour habiter dans un "village" bushmen !
Bon voyage !
Quel beau voyage .....
A propos des "petits bateaux" de Chobé, voici une anecdote qui nous empêche encore parfois de dormir ....
Nous avions donc loué un de ces petits bateaux qui vous permettent des photos extraordinaires d’éléphants, de buffles, de crocodiles, de girafes, d'antilopes, d'oiseaux de toutes sortes, etc .... Notre pilote s'approche de la berge et coupe le moteur pour nous permettre de photographier une grande "harde" d'éléphants dont des "tout-petits" (une quinzaine de jours sans doute) .... L'un deux, trompant la vigilance de sa mère, court vers notre bateau .... et il court tellement vite, qu'il tombe à l'eau, coincé entre la berge et notre bateau ! La mère le voyant disparu, s'affole, et vient elle aussi à toutes jambes vers notre bateau ! Et là, impossible de redémarrer le moteur. L'hélice s'est prise dans des herbes .....
La mère éléphant essaie alors de libérer son petit toujours pris entre la coque du bateau et la berge. Et elle entreprend de casser le bateau .... non pas méchamment, mais juste pour récupérer sa progéniture. Nous n'en menions pas large, et je voyais la trompe de l'éléphant passer et repasser juste devant moi .... Elle n'aurait eu évidement aucun mal à m'attraper !
La chance était avec nous ce jour là ... A force d'être secoué, le bateau s'est doucement détaché des herbes et s'est remis dans le courant. Lentement, nous nous sommes éloignés de la berge .... Ouf ....
Le spectacle qui a suivi est certainement la plus belle chose que j'ai vue de tous nos safaris en Afrique .....
La mère éléphant s'est agenouillée, un pied dans la rivière, l'autre sur la berge, afin de permettre à l'éléphanteau de sortir de l'eau. Même avec l'aide de sa trompe, la pauvre mère n'arrivait pas à le saisir : mouillé et couvert de boue, il n'offrait aucune prise. Après plusieurs tentatives infructueuses, une autre mère éléphant (la grand mère ?) s'est détachée du troupeau et est venue prêter main forte à sa congénère ... Et ensemble, les deux pachydermes ont pu sortir le petit de l'eau.
La troupe s'en est allée, tous les éléphants entourant le petit sauvé des eaux .
Ci joint une photo des deux éléphants en train ensemble de sortir le petit de l'eau.
A propos des "petits bateaux" de Chobé, voici une anecdote qui nous empêche encore parfois de dormir ....
Nous avions donc loué un de ces petits bateaux qui vous permettent des photos extraordinaires d’éléphants, de buffles, de crocodiles, de girafes, d'antilopes, d'oiseaux de toutes sortes, etc .... Notre pilote s'approche de la berge et coupe le moteur pour nous permettre de photographier une grande "harde" d'éléphants dont des "tout-petits" (une quinzaine de jours sans doute) .... L'un deux, trompant la vigilance de sa mère, court vers notre bateau .... et il court tellement vite, qu'il tombe à l'eau, coincé entre la berge et notre bateau ! La mère le voyant disparu, s'affole, et vient elle aussi à toutes jambes vers notre bateau ! Et là, impossible de redémarrer le moteur. L'hélice s'est prise dans des herbes .....
La mère éléphant essaie alors de libérer son petit toujours pris entre la coque du bateau et la berge. Et elle entreprend de casser le bateau .... non pas méchamment, mais juste pour récupérer sa progéniture. Nous n'en menions pas large, et je voyais la trompe de l'éléphant passer et repasser juste devant moi .... Elle n'aurait eu évidement aucun mal à m'attraper !
La chance était avec nous ce jour là ... A force d'être secoué, le bateau s'est doucement détaché des herbes et s'est remis dans le courant. Lentement, nous nous sommes éloignés de la berge .... Ouf ....
Le spectacle qui a suivi est certainement la plus belle chose que j'ai vue de tous nos safaris en Afrique .....
La mère éléphant s'est agenouillée, un pied dans la rivière, l'autre sur la berge, afin de permettre à l'éléphanteau de sortir de l'eau. Même avec l'aide de sa trompe, la pauvre mère n'arrivait pas à le saisir : mouillé et couvert de boue, il n'offrait aucune prise. Après plusieurs tentatives infructueuses, une autre mère éléphant (la grand mère ?) s'est détachée du troupeau et est venue prêter main forte à sa congénère ... Et ensemble, les deux pachydermes ont pu sortir le petit de l'eau.
La troupe s'en est allée, tous les éléphants entourant le petit sauvé des eaux .
Ci joint une photo des deux éléphants en train ensemble de sortir le petit de l'eau.
Christian G.
Quelle frayeur ça a du être !!!
Des sauvetages d'éléphanteau qui tombe à l'eau, ça arrive. Comme ici par exemple.
Mais être aux première loges (à ce point ce serait même l'orchestre 🤪) ça doit être extraordinaire.
Des sauvetages d'éléphanteau qui tombe à l'eau, ça arrive. Comme ici par exemple.
Mais être aux première loges (à ce point ce serait même l'orchestre 🤪) ça doit être extraordinaire.
Carnet : Retour en Namibie : août 2011
Sur le moment, pas tant que ça .... J'étais inquiet pour ma femme ..... mais après coup, oui ! et même encore maintenant !!
Quant à la vidéo, elle est magnifique ! c'est peu près ce que nous avons vécu. Les éléphants savent s'aider entre eux lorsque c'est nécessaire. !
Quant à la vidéo, elle est magnifique ! c'est peu près ce que nous avons vécu. Les éléphants savent s'aider entre eux lorsque c'est nécessaire. !
Christian G.
Bonjour,
je cherche à effectuer un circuit qui ressemble sensiblement à celui que vous avez fait il y a qques temps. Avez vous détaillé le circuit réellement effectué quelque part ? blog, carnet de voyage... et pouvez vous m'en faire profiter ?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Sophie
NOS CARNETS DE VOYAGES , l'Afrique du Sud, le Sinaï , La vallée du Nil, Rome et la Toscane, l'Ouest Américain, la Thaïlande, la Chine, le Mexique, le Rajasthan, la Namibie, NYC, la Floride, la Scandinavie, le Japon, l’Australie
Bonjour,
Je n'ai pas fait de blog mais j'ai mis un film sur Youtube : Françoise Thorel il y a quelques films de voyage dont la Namibie/ Botwana et il y a référence aux lieux traversés
Je peux vous faire le détail ( pas aujourd'hui ) si vous voulez , et répondre à des questions qd vous aurez vu le film
magnifique voyage !
Oh oui je veux bien le détail, itinéraire jour par jour, et si c'était à refaire les étapes que vous avez trouvé trop longues !
En attendant, je vais aller voir le film (moi aussi pas aujourd'hui, même si j'adorerai, je suis un peu surchargé de boulot !)
Sophie
NOS CARNETS DE VOYAGES , l'Afrique du Sud, le Sinaï , La vallée du Nil, Rome et la Toscane, l'Ouest Américain, la Thaïlande, la Chine, le Mexique, le Rajasthan, la Namibie, NYC, la Floride, la Scandinavie, le Japon, l’Australie
Bonjour,
Voilà l'itinéraire :Arrivée Windoeck au petit matin après un vol direct de Francfortaprès la prise de véhicule et les courses au supermarché, il y a peu d'endroits pour se ravitailler au cours du parcours, départ pour Mariental . Nuit à l'hotel Anandi La nuit tombe vers 17h30 /18h en hiver et il vaut mieux s'arrêter Keemanshoop camping au treeforest visite des chaos rocheux superbe promenade, retour au camping à 16h pour voir le repas des léopards visite du fish river canyon, encore de magnifiques balades nuit au Camping d'Hobas Longue piste pour rejoindre AUS en passant par le sud, près de l'Afrique du Sud , Superbes paysages de désert . Camping à klein vista ausLuderitz 125 km . Arriver assez tôt pour prendre un permis pour visiter l'ancienne ville minière de Kohmanshop , Ville fantôme ! Ballade à pied au bord de la mer . Hotel le BarrilAprès les courses, retour à Aus, et direction le nord , paysages magnifiques de désert, autruches, Oryx . Camping à la ferme Koimatsis( 2 nuits) , possibilité d'acheter de la viande de gibier pour le barbecue Endroit magique, promenades
Trajet pour Sesriem Paysages magnifiques, animaux, Camping à Sesriem Ballade sur les dunesdépart très tôt pour Sosslusvei, route au lever du soleil . Il n'est pas nécessaire quand on a un 4x4 de prendre la navette . Ballade sur les dunes et dans le salar , inoubliable ; retour à sesriem ;
Départ pour Homeb, paysages du désert magnifiques, , arrêt à Solitaire pour la légendaire pâtisserie dans un endroit improbable , soirée dans un camping très rudimentaire, dans une vallée, nous sommes seuls ..
départ pour Walvis Bay Ballade au bord de mer. HôtelSwakopmund à 30 km Visite, ville coloniale allemande pittoresque Hôtel en bord de mer sympa le fishreiher
courses à swakopmund et départ pour le nord, Cap cross, avec sa colonie d' otaries , et "camping" dans le spitzkoppe ; Encore un endroit magiquepiste pour le Brandberg Camping au white lady lodgeMarche avec guide dans le parc de la white lady pour voir des peintures rupestres . puis 140 km de piste pour aller à Twyfelfontain Encore de beau paysages Camping Aabadi Plusieurs sites à visiter dans les paragesavant de partir petite ballade pour voir les gravures rupestres Le cadre est beau . Ensuite direction Palwag la piste est mauvaise . camping . Nous faisons un game drive de 15h à 19h, seule excursion touristique du voyage Nous sommes seuls avec le guide dans la voiture de Safari . Nous voyons beaucoup d'animaux . Nous en verrons beaucoup aussi par nous même à Etosha, mais nous avons eu la chance à Palmwag de pouvoir voir des éléphants du désert qui sont rares et difficiles à approcher De Palwag à étosha . Camping dans le parc à Okankuejo On roule dans le parc à la recherche d'animaux autour des trous d'eau, on observe la vie du parc en se faisant oublier C'est magique
Nous avons parcouru le parc en dormant dans les 3 camping, Halali et Namutoni en hiver, je pense qu'il est plus prudent de réserver Des animaux à profusion qui nous ramènent à l'enfance !Nous avions prévu d'aller à Rundu par la piste mais suite à une panne de la voiture, nous devons passer par Tsumeb . Arrivée au camping du n'kwasi lodge . Nous avions choisi ce camping car il s'annonce comme une sorte d'association humanitaire pour les villages alentour . C'est complètement faux, c'est un lucratif business, et les bons blancs "oeuvrent" auprès des villages dans la misère la plus terrible, en leur faisant construire une église par des jeunes volontaires en mal de bonne action exotique ! Trouver un autre camping sur la route n'est pas difficileEnsuite nous avançons dans la bande de Caprivi vers le Bostwana . Au passage visite du très petit parc de Malongo, Arrêt dans les camping de Nunda river, Namushasha à Kongola Cette route suit la rivière et la faune change Hippopotames, crocodiles ..Kasane, d'ou l'on part pour visiter le parc Chobe Camping Safari lodge très bien placé pour partit t^t le matin dans le parc ; ballade en bateau au départ de Kasane au coucher de soleil ; magifique, des hippos, crocodile, .; et même des éléphants nageurs !Journée dans le parc
départ pour Nata au sud et piste pour Lekubu Island Il faut se renseigner avant pour savoir si la piste est praticable (prendre un GPS )
En hiver cela semble facile mais quand il a plu c'est impraticable. Nuit magique dans l'islandGweta puis Maun, hotel
Courses puis vol au dessus du delta de l'okavongo au coucher de soleil ;Superbe et permet d'avion de repérer lele parcours que l'on emprunte après en voiture dans le parc MoremiCamping à KasikiniDépart tôt le matin pour le parc GPS bien utile . retour à Kasikini En fonction du niveau d'eau dans le delta, certaines pistes sont impraticbles Bien se renseigner à l'entrée du parc
Ensuite retout en Namibie en passant par ganzi
Au total, nous n'avons rien à retirer, tout était intéressant et très diversifié Nous ne sommes pas allés aux chutes du de Victoria Il y a beaucoup de monde en cette saison c'est une option à partit de Kasane
Merci beaucoup, tu as été bien plus rapide que moi !
Je reviens quand j'aurai vu ton film 😊
Sophie
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I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
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Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
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From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
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I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
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We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
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I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
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For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
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D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
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Hi everyone,
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From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
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I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
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Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Hello
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions: - Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)? The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛). - I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪) - Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?








